Any way to make the ancients spawn further from you?

[Stormy Fairweather]

In every game I have played I have met the ancients first, or at the latest second. And they always mine the rarest resources and all available research boosts, and considering their huge eraly game advantage this is a huge liability.

So I started a dozen games and sure enough, when looking in the editor mode the ancients are always the nearest civilization. I saw no option for moving their system in the editor, nor any thing in the races.txt that seems responsible for where they spawn.

So, is there anyway I can put them on the far side of tha galaxy, or even just give them a chance to spawn there?

Secondly, if I sinply disable the expansion events what all would I lose out on?

THanks.

[Haree78]

It's part of the story that they are near you, it's pretty much essential for the game to conclude properly and be playable at the end for them to be near you.

If you turn off the ROTS story events then you miss out on being drawn in to a conflict that will split the Galaxy in half. The game can be won by taking sides and winning or losing that way. There will be a real challenge for newer players to conclude the game one way or the other. Without them story events the game is much more sand box and is won by however you have set it.

You may be interested that the next expansions feature list is adding race specific victory conditions adding new ways to play and win the game with MUCH more variety.

[Stormy Fairweather]

I always enjoy playing games like this more than winning them. But the expansion is indeed looking to be pretty great.

[Data]

From your lips to....Elliot's ears [:)]

[tjhkkr]

First of all, I do not think the Ancients can expand really; I think they have only a single planet and do not colonize. I did have them set to colonize once and that REALLY changed the game.

The other thing is that you can change their name, and then they would spawn far away from you!

[Stormy Fairweather]

Changing their name would cause them to spawn further away...? I can see how that might work, but if you 'trick' the game into not recognizing thier status during creation so they are put elsewhere, will that not also interfere with them being recognized as part of the story and the events they are connected to?

[tjhkkr]

ORIGINAL: Stormy Fairweather
Changing their name would cause them to spawn further away...? I can see how that might work, but if you 'trick' the game into not recognizing thier status during creation so they are put elsewhere, will that not also interfere with them being recognized as part of the story and the events they are connected to?

Very good; yes that is true... and I am not sure if the Shakturi would appear either.

[Hanekem]

ORIGINAL: tjhkkr

First of all, I do not think the Ancients can expand really; I think they have only a single planet and do not colonize. I did have them set to colonize once and that REALLY changed the game.

The other thing is that you can change their name, and then they would spawn far away from you!

They might not expand but do build resource bases and research instalations, can see the former, not the latter. (specially when it steals me of those places :S )

[Data]

I did not pay enough attention but I think you speak of the Shakturi while TJ may refer to the Mechanoids.

[Nedrear]

ORIGINAL: Data

I did not pay enough attention...

Yes you did not. It was stated: If the name of the ancients is changed, their spawning position to you will be altered as the code can't properly recognize the story module anymore. It was further mentioned that it might damage the story in itself further on preventing the Shakturi to return.

[Hanekem]

ORIGINAL: Data

I did not pay enough attention but I think you speak of the Shakturi while TJ may refer to the Mechanoids.

I am talking about the mechanoids if you are referring to my posts

[Data]

Yes, Hanekem, I was replying to your post...I stand corrected [:)]

[Hanekem]

ORIGINAL: Data

Yes, Hanekem, I was replying to your post...I stand corrected [:)]

No probs there, I am more used to people using quote feature to answer a post rather than the other option we have here (case and point)