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RE: The Stone and the Waves

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It's especially odd since he went to such great lengths to take PM. Player distraction due to heavy fighting is the logical explanation, I suppose.


Or he has so many reserves that he thinks he can crush me back again with a land invasion...[&:]

But this time i'm stronger! and i've prepared the occupation of NG very carefully!

Tomorrow we'll plaster Buna again, while more PTs and DDs interdict missions will be on the way in the Solomons. All of this while our HQ is getting ready for the next operation...code-name "NATURALLY BUSHY"
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RE: The Stone and the Waves

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Well, I am certainly glad to see that my prediction of disaster for your paratroopers proved correct, thus burnishing my reptutation as an "expert" who knows exactly what's going on....

...errrrr, on second thought....



On a more serious note: Dang, GreyJoy, talk about a player who has gone from the ultimate in Green Newb to a very confident and capable player in a remarkably short time! Well done!

[&o]


Thanks CR...you know it was a close call...if the weather had been bad and my bombers hadn't attacked his naval guard unit the whole operation would have been a possible disaster...

However i think it's better to think WHY Rader hasn't garrisoned PM and left it unbuilt and without a decent level fort...it's not something Rader does normally...

I ended my PPs last turn...i've spent the last of them to convert an AUS Division...now for the New Guinea i have at hand 4 NZ Bde, 2 AUS Division and the 27th US Division...i need to save more PPs now cause i need a motorized Bde that costs 550 PPs... hate this whole PP system...[:D] i already fear the future advances in CENTPAC...Rader has an almost unlimited number of free divisions by now...

Luckly enough my LCUs, in the last two operation, haven't been touched at all! They are all at 100%[8D]


Don't overdo it. I find that the replacement rate for NZ and Australian divisions are so paltry (and get worse for OZ) that it does not pay to buy out too many of them. If you get too many of them into combat you will not be able to replace losses. Also, these units share critical devices that are already in low supply with British and Indian units. (vickers mg, 25 pounder gun, and 6 pounder AT, to name a few) You will run short of these items if you are depending on Commonwealthe troops too much. Better to use the PP on other units than to try and buy out too many. Any Australian tank unit that is not scheduled to withdraw is well worth it though.

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RE: The Stone and the Waves

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Well, I am certainly glad to see that my prediction of disaster for your paratroopers proved correct, thus burnishing my reptutation as an "expert" who knows exactly what's going on....

...errrrr, on second thought....



On a more serious note: Dang, GreyJoy, talk about a player who has gone from the ultimate in Green Newb to a very confident and capable player in a remarkably short time! Well done!

[&o]


Thanks CR...you know it was a close call...if the weather had been bad and my bombers hadn't attacked his naval guard unit the whole operation would have been a possible disaster...

However i think it's better to think WHY Rader hasn't garrisoned PM and left it unbuilt and without a decent level fort...it's not something Rader does normally...

I ended my PPs last turn...i've spent the last of them to convert an AUS Division...now for the New Guinea i have at hand 4 NZ Bde, 2 AUS Division and the 27th US Division...i need to save more PPs now cause i need a motorized Bde that costs 550 PPs... hate this whole PP system...[:D] i already fear the future advances in CENTPAC...Rader has an almost unlimited number of free divisions by now...

Luckly enough my LCUs, in the last two operation, haven't been touched at all! They are all at 100%[8D]


Don't overdo it. I find that the replacement rate for NZ and Australian divisions are so paltry (and get worse for OZ) that it does not pay to buy out too many of them. If you get too many of them into combat you will not be able to replace losses. Also, these units share critical devices that are already in low supply with British and Indian units. (vickers mg, 25 pounder gun, and 6 pounder AT, to name a few) You will run short of these items if you are depending on Commonwealthe troops too much. Better to use the PP on other units than to try and buy out too many. Any Australian tank unit that is not scheduled to withdraw is well worth it though.



I see... I won't be able to overdo it much more btw...my PPs reserves ended and now the next 2000 PPs will serve to free up an american Division for the NO AUS offensive (i'm moving there 3 US Division + 1 AUS Division + 1 Indian Division).

Replacements rate are low...i know...but considering that to the 27th US Division it took 12 months to get back to 75% strenght...the americans aren't in a better situation.

However i thank you for this input...i will take it into deep consideration!

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RE: The Stone and the Waves

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The sharks feed well this day. To them, it is manna falling from the sky. They must be getting quite large by now.

Reek, nice job interdicting the troop withdrawal. You lose one very old CA and one old CL.....stop wailing.

Hummmmm, Bolton looks at a map while Reek cowers in a corner. Bolton turns slowly and grimaces. Reek, what do you say we have a bit more fun say in about a week. Reek moans and wails, No Thank you, Master. Bolton smiles even larger. Why not program those paras of yours for a drop at Gasmata or some other empty IJ base and really scare the bejabbers out of the LYBs? It would take him awhile to mount any kind of reaction to Gasmata and you could pull in reinforcements/supply via air from PM and Tulagi. If this rush to abandon Thousand Ships was percipitated by the PM attack, just think of what would happen if you landed even deeper in his rear. I dare say Preparation H would not be sufficient to stem the burn. You might win the Solomons in their entirity without further adieu. Hummmm. Bolton, turns away from Reek to allow him time to think about this dastardly plan.

My Lord,

i thought about you this evening...i was peeling an "avogado" in order to make my typical "single dinner"...wurstels, beer, moutarde, avogados and salad... i was peeling that little green bastard and i cut one of my finger with the knife...
...after the usual pagan curses, i sucked the blood out of my finger and immediately after that it occured to me the whole joke "Bolton-Reek" (CR: in the books this guy, Bolton, peels the fingers and thoes of Reek-GreyJoy untill they hurt so much that the poor bastard beg him to cut them out completely!)....and i smiled by myself, in the kitchen, alone, with a bleeding finger and a blood-dirty-avogado....not exactly the idea of a man in a good menthal status [:D]
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RE: The Stone and the Waves

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Here, here Reek! Self inflicted wounds will just not do. BTW, where did you get the knife anyway!?

Beer Moutarde? Hummmmm, I'll pass.

Looking forward to the next few turns to see if the LYBs continue the rat race from Thousand Ship and other lower Solomon island locations. Keep the pressure on.
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You may be getting to the point that you may have to disband a few infantry regiments to get troops. Unless its armor, not too many regiments should be seen in assaults now. Regiments and some brigades are more for garrison purpose.
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You may be getting to the point that you may have to disband a few infantry regiments to get troops. Unless its armor, not too many regiments should be seen in assaults now. Regiments and some brigades are more for garrison purpose.


Yes, once the danger is over in OZ there are a lot of restricted infantry units that can be disbanded in Sidney. I disbanded one NZ unit as well. I have them come back after 120 days but some of them will never get rebuilt. A slick trick is to save up enough Australian 44 infantry squads by using the new stockpile feature and then start converting small Australian restricted battalions. Once they upgrade to 44 infantry you can then disband them in Sidney and really help to fill out your Australian 44 squad pool. Otherwise if you wait to just build up the pool, it will be late 44 before you can really start upgrading.

The stockpile feature in the betas is one of the best features.
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A little late to the party GJ.  Great job with PM.  Now you got him on the run in to Solomons.  Keep up the good work.
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Oct 30, 31 1943 Holloween Night
 
We sent 25 P-38s to sweep Buna from PM in order to clear the path for the upcoming 4Es mission. As always the coordination was poor, despite having the 5th Air Force HQ present at PM. My P-38s arrived in 2 groups after the 4Es mission. We lost 3 P-38s (but only 1 pilot) and 7 B-24s cause Rader perfomed a LRCAP mission with 2 groups (Tojo mk c and A6M5a) from nearby bases. However our bombers got through and plastered Buna again. Lae and Nzareb are still damaged by last week missions so the air situation in NG is growing better. Rader is too deeply involved in the Solomons to be able to overwhelm me in NG...at least for the moment...and PM is growing FAST. Already AF 5 and Port 2[8D]. Now 160 fighters are based there and the AF is not overstacked nor in engines count nor in groups count. We're doing fine.
Tomorrow the first convoy will reach PM, bringing in an Aus Bde and 23k supplies.
In The Solomons he sent 4 CAs+5DDs to cover his next evacuation attempt. This time he sent his ACMs to mine Russell. They tangled with my PTs and many of them got sunk...but for sure many got through and delivered their candies... the CAs tangled at Russell with a little SCTF of mine composed by an Omaha class CL and by 4 Fletchers...the battle that followed was unconsistent and nobody got really hurt.
He placed 120 fighters at Russell...and i'm sniffing another "battle of the barges" for next turn.... i'm prepping a warm welcome.
 
Plans for the next operations are almost done. My CVs are still loitering around Cooktown...i don't need them somewhere else and so i prefer to keep the area secure untill all my NG invasion army is in place at PM.
The new zelanders are ready for Milne Bay. I think in a week we'll be ready to occupy the place (which is a empty dot base).
 
I'll try not to use the Commonwealth troops not too much so... Thanx Crusutton and NY59!
 
No new turns till sunday/monday...so i'll have lot of time to update and study...[&o]
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My Lord,

i thought about you this evening...i was peeling an "avogado" in order to make my typical "single dinner"...wurstels, beer, moutarde, avogados and salad... i was peeling that little green bastard and i cut one of my finger with the knife...
...after the usual pagan curses, i sucked the blood out of my finger and immediately after that it occured to me the whole joke "Bolton-Reek" (CR: in the books this guy, Bolton, peels the fingers and thoes of Reek-GreyJoy untill they hurt so much that the poor bastard beg him to cut them out completely!)....and i smiled by myself, in the kitchen, alone, with a bleeding finger and a blood-dirty-avogado....not exactly the idea of a man in a good menthal status

I think i've been reading this AAR too often. Im beginning to question my 'menthal' ability to spell words in my native language. I had to look up the correct spelling of 'avogado' today!
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Oh, ok...i see...it's AVOCADO ...[:D]
 
should i take some private lessons in english language? [:D]
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My Lord,

i thought about you this evening...i was peeling an "avogado" in order to make my typical "single dinner"...wurstels, beer, moutarde, avogados and salad... i was peeling that little green bastard and i cut one of my finger with the knife...
...after the usual pagan curses, i sucked the blood out of my finger and immediately after that it occured to me the whole joke "Bolton-Reek" (CR: in the books this guy, Bolton, peels the fingers and thoes of Reek-GreyJoy untill they hurt so much that the poor bastard beg him to cut them out completely!)....and i smiled by myself, in the kitchen, alone, with a bleeding finger and a blood-dirty-avogado....not exactly the idea of a man in a good menthal status

I think i've been reading this AAR too often. Im beginning to question my 'menthal' ability to spell words in my native language. I had to look up the correct spelling of 'avogado' today!

well this AAR is certainly many things - just not a useful help for schoolchildren to learn the correct spelling and grammar [:D][:D]
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My Lord,

i thought about you this evening...i was peeling an "avogado" in order to make my typical "single dinner"...wurstels, beer, moutarde, avogados and salad... i was peeling that little green bastard and i cut one of my finger with the knife...
...after the usual pagan curses, i sucked the blood out of my finger and immediately after that it occured to me the whole joke "Bolton-Reek" (CR: in the books this guy, Bolton, peels the fingers and thoes of Reek-GreyJoy untill they hurt so much that the poor bastard beg him to cut them out completely!)....and i smiled by myself, in the kitchen, alone, with a bleeding finger and a blood-dirty-avogado....not exactly the idea of a man in a good menthal status

I think i've been reading this AAR too often. Im beginning to question my 'menthal' ability to spell words in my native language. I had to look up the correct spelling of 'avogado' today!

LOL...i just noticed that you were talking about the "mentHal-mental" thing and not about avoGado-avoCado [:D]
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Oh, ok...i see...it's AVOCADO ...

should i take some private lessons in english language?

I wouldn't change a thing, GJ. GreyJoyisms are part of the battle. It's like your own pidgin language for AE.
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It would help more if you learned to speak American vs English. They tend to talk 'funny.' [;)] Once you master that, we can then focus on you speaking "Yankee" and not "Southernese." [:D]
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On a more serious note: Dang, GreyJoy, talk about a player who has gone from the ultimate in Green Newb to a very confident and capable player in a remarkably short time! Well done!

[&o]

Seconded, and not many players would have continued the game after your early debcales. If you ever wnat to play Japs id give you a game.
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On a more serious note: Dang, GreyJoy, talk about a player who has gone from the ultimate in Green Newb to a very confident and capable player in a remarkably short time! Well done!

[&o]

Seconded, and not many players would have continued the game after your early debcales. If you ever wnat to play Japs id give you a game.

Thanks mate. But believe me...it was hard...i felt confused.. everything was so...so...overwhelming at the beginning...and Rader pushed hard...he never let me breath...China and India were a costant pain...months of pain...then the debacle at PM with the lost of an entire invasion corp and of 40 transports (APs and AKs!!!) and several warships...then the RN debacle at Scoodra...then the loss of 5 CVEs and 4 BBs against his subs...not to talk about the PH week where i lost every single ship that was anchored at PH...i think i managed to hold on only because of this AAR and of you folks that remained by my side even in the worst days...when everything seemed lost...when everybody was screaming that Oz was in Danger...that India was lost for good...that NZ could be invaded...
I saved my CVs only because you all stressed their importance (and God knows how much you were right)...but i cannot deny that there were days when i wanted to throw the towel...days when it was a pain to see another turn in the mailbox...
Bad days... past days thank God! [:D]
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It would help more if you learned to speak American vs English. They tend to talk 'funny.' [;)] Once you master that, we can then focus on you speaking "Yankee" and not "Southernese." [:D]

Pritheee sirrah and have at you, we have been talking - as you colonials put it - funny - for centuries before you even inhabited the - what's it called - ah yes - the NEW World..........

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Again a little trick i used when i encountered some APA shortage in my game. The big HQs (Central Pacific, South Pacific, SW Pacific) provide a very good naval support and especially they extend their bonus up to (as far as i remember) half the command range with a diminishing effect. So if you do landing operations which are in short range of a friendly base, first try to move some of the command hqs into that base so they provide their naval support to the base which you are going to invade. If you combine that with 1 or 2 of the small navy support detachments and a prepared naval base for the landing force you can invade using AP or even xAPs and achieve very good unload rates sufficient for normal invasions. As long as you have no stacking limits this is a good way to invade without a full APA/AKA/LST invasion fleet.

The support of the HQs helps in the initial unload phase to faster unload the naval support detachments and the naval support base force. After that in the remaining phases during the day you get quite good unload rates using xAPs. (But still do not load them to the maximum). And the Fleet HQs if they provide naval support are quite good too in that case to mix them with the landing force.
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Again a little trick i used when i encountered some APA shortage in my game. The big HQs (Central Pacific, South Pacific, SW Pacific) provide a very good naval support and especially they extend their bonus up to (as far as i remember) half the command range with a diminishing effect. So if you do landing operations which are in short range of a friendly base, first try to move some of the command hqs into that base so they provide their naval support to the base which you are going to invade. If you combine that with 1 or 2 of the small navy support detachments and a prepared naval base for the landing force you can invade using AP or even xAPs and achieve very good unload rates sufficient for normal invasions. As long as you have no stacking limits this is a good way to invade without a full APA/AKA/LST invasion fleet.

The support of the HQs helps in the initial unload phase to faster unload the naval support detachments and the naval support base force. After that in the remaining phases during the day you get quite good unload rates using xAPs. (But still do not load them to the maximum). And the Fleet HQs if they provide naval support are quite good too in that case to mix them with the landing force.

That's very very interesring and usefull beppi! THX!
I'll try that! Will move my Command HQs to Tulagi and see how it goes... i also have now the amphibious Bde with 200 naval support points at hand and an Amphib Landing HQ with a proper support ship for my next operations...[;)]

Already using the small port detachments...they seem to be very usefull too!
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