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Transit 25%

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My understanding is that 25% of those in the Transit Pool are released into the Active Pool each turn.

IMO the concept of transit is reasonable.

But when I started to do the maths I'm not so sure.

Example, imagine that the pool is zero, 100 are added in a turn and no more are added; then after each turn there would be in transit

75, 56, 42, 32, 24, 18, 14, 11, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1

Please excuse my rounding and guess at what happens under 4.

Now thats 15 turns to clear out 100, 23 to clear out 1000.

Is this how it actually works? and if so is it appropriate for the Soviets; I cant imagine them allowing troops to be 'lost' for up to half a year.
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RE: Transit 25%

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The scenario is more like this:

Turn N: 100 (losses) added to the Transit Pool (TP). Total in pool = 100.

Turn N+1: 100*(.25) = 25 returned from TP during logistics. Then 100 losses added to the pool. Total in pool = 175.

Turn N+2: 175*(.25) = 44 returned from TP during logistics. Then 100 losses added to the pool. Total in pool = 231.

Turn N+3: 231*(.25) = 58 returned from TP during logistics. Then 100 losses added to the pool. Total in pool = 273.

Turn N+4: 273*(.25) = 68 returned from TP during logistics. Then 100 losses added to the pool. Total in pool = 305.

And so on. If the losses drop below ~ 25% of the existing transit pool, then you'll start making headway against it. If the losses remain ~ 25% of the existing pool, then the pool dump vis-a-vis casualties reaches parity. If the losses climb above ~25% of the existing pool, then your pool will grow.
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RE: Transit 25%

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Agree with your scenario totally. I used a simplistic example to make the point that some elements could be in the Transit Pool for months. Now I thought those released into Tranist had effectively been announced fit for duty, and their sojourn in the transit pool was the time it took them to return to their units.

Now I cant remember reading that the Soviets were sensitive fellows; quite the oppositie; I would imagine that they would round up those remotely fit and return them to the front asap.

So months in transit seems unrealistic; if it was the allies I wouldnt have a problem...
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RE: Transit 25%

Post by JAMiAM »

ORIGINAL: johntoml56

Agree with your scenario totally. I used a simplistic example to make the point that some elements could be in the Transit Pool for months. Now I thought those released into Tranist had effectively been announced fit for duty, and their sojourn in the transit pool was the time it took them to return to their units.

So months in transit seems unrealistic; if it was the allies I wouldnt have a problem...
I'm pretty sure that the pools are conglomerated, and that once in them, the individual elements and the units they came from are not tracked. The 25% release is to introduce a different "churn" rate for the disabled/damaged items, separate from the "permanent" disabled/destroyed items which come back at their lower rates in the case of disabled, or not at all, in the case of destroyed.

Previously, things went more immediately back into the active pools, or into the "permanent" loss pools. With the transit pools, there is this variable mass of items that moves back at this different rate. Sort of a time-release mechanism.
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