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Crackaces,
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+1

Especally in the scenario #2 situation. [;)]

The big beef I have is withdrawals .. Here the IJ are a comin' and the units are set to withdraw. The PP's to keep the forces in theater are ridiculous so .. its psyche! You only thought you had forces to resist!

On the other hand the Allies get soooo much stuff in 1944 the point seems moot. Just let the LYBFB's have thier way and give 'em hell in '44 !

well, I mentioned the complaints in order to sort of preempt them rather than indicating an agreement with this point of view. But I sort of like working within constraints set by the game and optimizing what I can achieve with a given set of toys.

Naturally, to each his own.


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Mini Midway near Rabaul!

Hello Everyone,

It's now January 21, 1942 and there were some tense moments down near Rabaul. I moved my three CVs to Austrailia at the end of December and figured that something might be going on near Rabaul as the IJN had been advancing down the north coast of New Guinea. I headed up that way when PBY's at Rabual and Moresby reported IJN CVEs lingering to the north. I cranked it up to full speed and I was pretty sure he had not spotted me. My main concern was I did not know where the KB was but nothing was coming in from the search planes other than the CVEs, I pushed the American carriers two hexes north of Rabaul and ran into a bee hive of Japanese task forces.

First off was his search planes finding me. Then, a strike from what turned out to be the Hosho and the Taiyo. Only one Kate made it through the CAP and missed it's shot at glory at the Repulse. It was pay back time. A large American strike left both Japanese carriers in flames and my planes spent the rest of the day savaging various japanese amphibious task forces. The net total, with FOW was as follows:

Known sunk:

4 AKs
6 PBs
1 AP
1 AMC
1 DD
1 CL

About 5,000 troops drowned.

The battle report told me that the Taiyo took 1 torpedo and 4 bomb hits and the Hosho took 5 bomb hits. Both carriers were reported as being badly damaged and on on fire in the morning and were not seen in the afternoon. I suspect they are both gone as well as other ships that were hit during the day but not reported yet as sunk by FOW. This is not a game changer, but I think it forstalls his push into the Solomons. This battle was totally due to an information imbalance. My PBYs told me where he was and he did not know where I was (or that I was even in the South Pacific) until it was too late.

The same day I got confirmation that the KB was near Balikpappen when there was a massive air raid on the port by a large number of zeros and Kates. Nevertheless, I think it's time for me to skedaddle back and thank my lucky stars. No one has suffered a hit on a fleet carrier yet, but I have nixed a CVL and two CVEs (even if they live, they are out for a long long time).

On other fronts, he is pushing me in China and making headway except that I have pushed several corps into Hankow. He continues the siege of Manila. He moved into Davao but the PI infantry there pushed him back out. The IJA has moved into Singapore and suffered the losses from crossing the river shock attack. My guess is that he'll regroup and then start wearing me down there as well. He has avoided any more airal ambushes and is launching some massive raids on Singapore and Manila. He has also started bombing Java and is moving to clean out Borneo.

So, off to a good start, but I think that there is still a long long way to go as CVEs look good on the trophy wall, but really do not matter that much since they can't carry many planes. One good carrier battle or a few lucky submarine shots and the Americans are defenseless until 1943.

A couple of questions:

1. The supply levels seem to fluctuate in ways I can't understand. For example, three days ago Singapore was down to 40,000 supply now it's back up to 53,000 and I don't understand why. Similarly, Davao was down to 683 after it pushed the Japanese out, but then it went back to 1,100 the day after that.

2. Can the British really do anything but sit around and wait?

Thanks for all the advice and comments.
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It is now the end of January 1942 and here is a brief status report. On the high seas, there has not been too much action since the great escort carrier massacre earlier this month. My U.S. subs had a dismal 28 torpedoes in a row go boink and the dutch stepped in and sank a couple of smaller ships. He has been using the KB for invasion support in Borneo whereby teh Kates fly in huge swarms for ground strikes while the Vals are on ASW patrol. seems to have kept me from making any shots on him. Have others run into that problem.

In the air, I continue to shoot down more planes than I lose, but thenumbers here are not too high either. He has learned to escort more bomber formations as have I. Now, we are locked in combat over Singapore so each day he loses several bombers to AA. I figure if nothing else, holding out in Singapore will help to whittle down his bomber forces.

On land the Pacific is living up to its reputation as a ring of fire. We are duking it out in Manila right now. I'm a little proud of the PI infantry that has held out there. It's down to half strength and has withstood two more assults than I thought that they would. Especially given the unrelenting bombardment from above. I have not caused too many losses for him, however, so when these guys finally retreat, my losses are likely to far exceed his. Of course, then he has to fight his way through Clark field and Bataan so I shoudl be able to tie him down for some time yet. I also still hold Davao. I don't think he's strong enough there to push me out yet, but, it's also not a key hex. As I mentioned above, he and I are fighting in Singapore. He's launced a couple of direct assualts, but I think that's going to be a long grind for him as I'm still plenty strong with lots of bully beef and still with level 3 fortifications. Again, however, his losses are not going to make up for my losses when everyone goes "hands up." In Borneo, he's taken Tarakan and his only remaining target is Balikpapan. He is also closing in on Makassar but some Falcons did come up with hits on APDs so medals all around for those boys.

He is probing towards Rangoon and that just does not look like a very strong position.

In China he has been slapping me around. This is partly my own fault as I"ve been way too agressive with these men. He has cut the road to Yenan and is clearing out the main railline. I hope I've learned my lesson and just sit and build up my forces. I think he'll have a tough time taking Changsha but the Chinese can be brittle. But, he is making lots of VPs here. I've also set all my russians squadrons to 100% training and I've given all the ground forces objectives inside Manchuria so when the balloon goes up we won't have to wait.

I've given Singapore and Clark Field good commanders (sorry dug out doug). My thought is that they help delay the IJA at the point of the game when they are strongest. Any thoughts?

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Holidays and broken computers have slowed down but not stopped the action, but we're back at it full swing.

It's February 16, 1942. Not too much has happened at sea since the last report. The KB has been parked in the Makasser straits bombing everthing in sight and on vicious ASW patrol. In fact, it's not even worth getting close to his carriers given how effective the Vals and Kates are on ASW patrol (I don't even get shots off at ships but he gets several bombs off on my subs each turn). It's not like the subs have really picked up much slack elsewhere as most turns go by with no shots at all at any ships.

On land the Japanese have picked up the pace. Manila fell two days ago and I almost, but not quite, got the infantry out of there without too many losses, in fact, I was one MP away from a nice retreat but he caught me and inflicted about 50 percent casualties. The IJA has also taken all of Borneo and just this turn landed in the middle of Java. It's going to be a long campaign for him as both Batavia and Soerebaja have been fortifying since day one. As noted, Manila fell, but clark field and Bataan are still hanging on. Singapore is also in a long seige that is tying down at least three Japanese divisions and he has not yet landed at Palembang. China is the big worrying point as he continues to inflict grievous losses on me there. He has also invaded Burma and we are locked in combat in Rangoon. He does not have air superiority there yet and the hurricanes are fighting with nates and tojos. Oddly, Rangoon does not seem to produce many supply points but India has been fortifying. Rabaul seems safe for now, especially with the KB concentrating on Java.

In the air, I did get in a nice little ambush on his KB airwings. I packed every dutch and british fighter I could into Soerebaja and managed to shoot down a reported 64 Kates in one turn (I'm sure it was lower but still a very nice high number). Take that for pearl harbor! Alas, the next day the Zero fighter sweep evened the score but I'm always happy to trade dutch buffalos for Japanese carrier torpedo bombers. THe B-17s have started to bomb New Guinea for practice. Not too much air action in China.

Any advice on China would be very much appreciated. Also, on how to find Japanese convoys. Thanks.
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Hello all,

Well, we've managed to pick up the pace a bit and it is now Mid-March 1942.  In news since the last report.  The war at sea has slowed down some what. A few AK's sunk by subs and I did catch a small invasion convoy of his in a surface action that sank several DMS's and PBs and may have sunk 2-3 APs (after they had unloaded [:@]).  But, Scott had his revenge very soon when the next day (in game turns) a couple of his carriers caught one of my own troop convoys and put 6 torpedoes in a battleship.  I picked up about 25 VPs and, alas, he picked up 191. [:(] American damage control may be good, but it's not that good and the Mississippi lies at the bottom of the deep blue sea.

The land action has been pretty hot.  He is laying siege to Clark Field and they are clinging to the last few drops of supply.  Singapore is still holding out and so is Batavia.  Soerebaja, however, fell like ripe fruit and, with all the non-combat troops there he garnered a nice number of prisoners so that in terms of troops losses he as 4x as many VPs as I do.  He's also leading in ship losses but by less than 2x (although I suspect that I'm doing better than that as many merchants get a hole in them and I'm pretty sure they sink but they do not show up due to FOW).  He pushed into Rangoon but got stuck there and is now holding me down in that city while gobbling up other minor bases in Burma. Things, thank God, finally stabilized for a bit in China and I've even been able to slap around a couple of IJA divisions, but he has really put the hurt on a large part of my army there and, as I'm sure is no surprise, the Chinese face perennial supply problems.

On the good news side, I launched my first counter invasion and retook Manus so the Bismark sea is currently an allied lake.  Rabaul is nicely fortified and he will be hard pressed to retake those two ports and Moresby. Right now we're in an air battle of attrition over Manus with his zeros coming in from New Guinea.  In fact, I lost the Mississippi because I failed to drop off an engineer with aviation support squads so I had to run the risk and that's when I got a renewed introduction to the Long Lance.

I do have a couple of questions if anyone has any guidance.

1.  When I invaded Manus there was a week long fight with a Japanese Regiment.  Then, we each got a message that it was surrounded and that was the last we heard of it. I figure it's dead, but neither of us saw any casualty report.  Do I get points for that Regiment?

2. How much does a supply point weigh?  I trying to figure out the carrying capacity of my transport aircraft and I see where it's listed by pounds, but I do not see where the supply point capacity is.

Thanks in advance.

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Hello all. The game has continued since my last post a few weeks ago. We're now in early May 1942. Before I give the update, let's have a moment of silence for the brave Dutch crew of the submarine KXVIII. They were on patrol off of Soerebaja two days ago (game time). They found a convoy but the IJN destroyer found them and after a flurry of depth charges the sub was forced to the surface. That started a running duel between the sub on one hand and the DD and 3 AKs on the other. In the end, the dutch put a total of 7 torpedos into all three AKs and took them down. Alas, the valient sub did not survive, but it was glorius.[&o].

In other naval news, the American and British carriers combine for an operation outside of Batavia. This resulted in a few destroyers and merchants being sunk. And the British flew their torpedo planes into Singpore who caught another ship the next day and then rebased to the carriers. the overall strategic purpose of the raid was acheived. But, the Japanese, taking advantage of the carriers being far away caught an American troop convoy south of Pearl and took out the Oklahoma. But, the KB missed the troops transports much to my relief. It seems that we're now in naval stalemate. By my estimation, the allies have sunk about 250,000 in merchant ships since the start of the war. Of course, we're all waiting for decent torps.

On land, the Japanese finally took Clark Field and are now hammering away at Bataan. I moved my disrupted units back to Clark so that they could be destroyed before they sucked down Bataan supply (war is a harsh business) but Scott caught onto that and put units into Bataan. Batavia teeters on the brink of being taken but the dutch there have also given a good account of themselves. Palembang and Medan are still Dutch. The Japanese did drop airborne to take Sebang (sp?) but a British amphibious invasion took it back. Singapore still stands defiant. And, the Japanese have not taken Rangoon. IN fact, they cling to only two hexes of Burma having been chased out by the Chinese. In China, right now it looks like stalemate. There are several hexes with large numbers of Chinese and Japanese units in them and it's anyone's guess as to who will chance it to attack first. But, China always makes me nervous. I believe that the Burma road is open and I've got an airlift going.

In the air, things have bee pretty even. There has not been any air ambushes lately. I found out that p_38s just aren't that good, even at maximum altitude. The British flying Wellingtons out of Rangoon have been engaging in desultory bombing of Bangkok but do not appear to have hit anything. Rabual is full of planes but I can't get any into Manus which is the focus of action in the South Pacific. I've tried bombing his airfield at Wewak but my b-17 crews appear to only be interested in bombing once per week or so.

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STOP THE PRESSES. MAJOR LAND/AIR/SEA BATTLE IN THE BISMARK SEA!!!

On or about May 15, 1942, several Japanese task forces left Truk with the mission of retaking Manus.

On or about May 15, 1942 several Allied task forces left Brisbane with the mission of invading Wewak.

The result? A swirling chaotic massive battle in the bismark sea.

The IJN struck first with massive bombardments of the allied garrison on Manus by two BB/CA task forces that destroyed most of the airfield on the island and left the land forces reeling. At the same time, the KB launced a wave of planes at Rabaul but suffered some significant attriton from the fighter defenses there. The KB then retired to north of Manus and pounded the island while Japanese transports unloaded their cargos over the beaches. Met with only desultory return fire, the Japanese soon had a number units on shore.

The morning of the 21st, however, the Japanese APs unloading at Manus were surprised to see American carrier planes scouting them out from overhead. Within an hour, many of the APs were buring hulks on the shore while the KB, out of range of American ships to the north of Manus had to be content with bombing the ground forces during the day. THat night, the American, who had redirected the Wewak invasion force to Rabaul, had to decide what to do with his carrier task force. Although tempted to run and pocket the APs he had sunk, he opted to stay but to stay close to Rabual with its protective fighters.

The next day dawned and Nagumo had decided to end the war once and for all moving south east of Manus. The Japanese carrier planes struck first and ran into a wall of Allied fighters. Although most of the carrier VFs were tasked with escorting the diver bombers and torpedo planes the extra squadrons at Rabual were on 100% escort duty. In the end, the Japanese strike was greeted with 145 fighters with only 42 Zeros on escort duty. There was 50%+ attrition on the strike before it went in and then it only managed to inflict one torpedo hit on the Yorktown and one on the Lexington. Then, it was the American turn and the result was a holocaust of exploding bombs, fuel, and ammunition. By the end of the day, the Kaga, Akagi, Zuikaku and Shokaku were each reported to have taking 8 or more hits and to be on fire with heavy damage. American planes watched the Shoho go down and the other Japanese carriers were reported to be in shambles. The two Japanese torpedo hits did minor damage and both carriers were still in the fight.

That night, on the basis of the battle reports, the American carriers pushed into the Bismark sea to pick off survivors and a Japanese submarine put a torpedo into the Enterprise. The American invasion force also headed out to Wewak. The next day was anti-climatic as the Allies invaded Wewak, B-25's from Moresby bombed Manus and the American carriers did not find much to attack while the Enterprise headed back to Rabaul for repairs. The next day dawned with the American invasion of Wewak.

Now the pendulum began to swing the other way. Recon revealed a large Japanese surface force just two hexes away from the carrier task force and a large BB task force right next to Wewak where the invasion task force had just shot off most of its ammunition in support of the invasion. Frantic american airstrikes left a couple of BBs on fire but the heavy BB armor appeard to save the IJN from any serious damage. The Americans also plotted movement to attempt to keep both the carriers and the invasion APs.

That night, the American carriers made it to Rabual to refuel and restock. But, the IJN caught the invasion task force and left almost all of the APs crippled and buring on teh shores of Manus as well as obliterating some minor allied ships. Also, another Japanese submarine put a torpedo into the Yorktown.

The next day, allied forces attacked Wewak and captured the base but failed to make any headway on Manus. The remaining healthy american carriers left port towards Truk where they pounded two Japanese CAs who were left burning and dead in the water. They also found the Zuiho which appeared to have about 10 zeros on board and put 5 1000 pound bombs into her. The carriers also found and finished off two or three Japanese CLs. Over the course of the next 2 days the reduced American carrier task force hunted down some IJN destroyers, AKs, and patrol boats that had been used by the IJN to resupply their troops on Manus.

As it now stands, both sides are gasping for supply on Manus. It is clear that the IJN has taken a major hit to its carriers but only the Shoho and the Kaga are reported sunk (the absence of any IJN CAP after the carrier battle indicates that even if the ships are not sunk, they are crippled). The American losses in APs was serious as these were the big ones (20 points each on average). Also, the attrition of American BBs continued with the Idaho taking significant damage during the sea fight and an American CA going down as well.

On other fronts, the Japanese are starting to put the squeeze on China and are closing in on Changsha. For somereason the AVG refusses to take any replacements so the Japanese army airforce is having its way. The British have pushed the Japanese out of Burma inflicting a severe defeat on teh IJA at Rangoon and Pegu. But, Japan is inching closer to taking Singapore and is landing near Palembang.

Oh, and American torpedos continue to suck. :-)
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Wow - gutsy moves with your CVs! Well done! [&o]
Re: trying to sink BBs with bombs - I only managed to do it once when I put 33 x 1000 pounders into one of the Kongos. I think she only sank because the fire level got to 100%. Best weapon against BBs is a torpedo that works. Second best is a 16" shell [14" often does not penetrate side armour unless you are close, around 10,000 yds].

Re: APs, the big ones carry a lot but take forever to unload at this stage. Sometime in 1943 some can be converted to APA [attack APs] meaning they get extra boats and winches for rapid offloading. Until then, I would not use them in a combat landing as they are too valuable and too vulnerable. Look carefully at each class your xAKs and you will find some that can be converted to xAPs and some that can be converted to xAKEs [ammo ships]. You don't need to convert every one that you can, but you will find it helpful to convert some right away because you do not have enough in the early stages. The ammo ships are especially helpful as they can allow you to rearm cruisers and DDs in a small port and BBs in a medium sized port [e.g. Rabaul or Darwin].

PS - For rapid troop unloading during a landing assign more ships than needed and have the load spread evenly [checkbox "use all ships"]. That way more troops can disembark simultaneously, the amphib TF can get out of Dodge sooner, and any ship loss will take fewer troops/equipment with it.
Use surface combat TFs to stand guard and intercept his SCTFs so that they use up their ammo and combat cycles before they reach your landing force. PT boats and DDs work great for this. They must be assigned to "patrol" the hex, not just go there and "remain on station". Hope that helps.
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2. How much does a supply point weigh? I trying to figure out the carrying capacity of my transport aircraft and I see where it's listed by pounds, but I do not see where the supply point capacity is.

Transport supply is based on load capacity of plane/seaplane. If load =4000lbs then you have 4 supply points lift for each plane.
So 1 supply-1000lbs lift. I could be incorrect. Post your question in the war room and you will get a confirmation.

Be careful w/ the transports. Over use on long hops will cause extreme op loses.
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It has been a long time since I posted anything but we're still flailing away at each other. As the allies, I'm way ahead of schedule but I think that's mainly because of the carrier battle (see above). It is October 1942 and I have just cleared out Hollandia after a bitter two week battle. There are many IJA units who retreated into the jungle no doubt to come out in 1972 having never given up. I also invaded and took Tarawa last turn to help clear the sea lanes between Pearl and Australia. China has managed to stablize the situation and push the Japanese back from Changsha which had been in danger of being cut off. So far, the Chinese have been picking off isolated Japanese units and staying on the defense.

I will likely lose a british brigade in Sabang as well as several units that came out of Singapore, but I am flying them out as fast as possible and trying to keep the Japanese off balance with frequent shore bombardments with the british battlewagons but the end is coming, I can feel it. In Burma, I've brough up a number of Indian divisions and I've been pushing him back. We're just outside of Pegu and I"m about to try another push. It's tough to dig these guys out of the jungle but I figure I might as well keep the pressure on him.

His subs are my worst enemy at sea. They don't go after transports so much, but they do seem to slip past my DD's with ease for shots at capital ships. I lost the Yorktown due to my own carelessness. It had a small fire and medium damage from a torpedo hit. Rather then send it back to Rabaul I decided to just send it to Sydney for repairs. Well, the fires spread and about five days later it went under. no one to blame but myself on that one.

His plan appears to be to build up a massive air fleet and go after my ships when ever I get close. I guess the only way to really counter that is to have lots of fighters on my carriers and wade into the thick of things. but, I'm wide open to other ideas.

The one game item that concerns me is that I withdrew the british carriers on time and they had their squadrons on board. Now, the withdraw screen is still showing those squadrons due to be withdrawn but I can't access them to take them off. Since they don't come back until 1944 it could cripple my PP levels.
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Hello all. Time for another quick update. In game terms it is mid-November 1942. Here's where things stand. The IJA cleared out Sebang and garnered a number of British prisoners since I was dumb enough to fight for the island. They also put a couple of torpedos into a British BB that was able to limp back to port. In Burma it's WWI. There are two large British/Inidian/Chinese armies facing off against two large Japanese armies. I managed to push him back across the river in the south but it's been a stalemate for a long time. The newly arrived Liberators along with Wellingtons did some damage to Japanese light industry in bangkok but only until the Japanese found the range and took down several wellingtons.

Not much at all in New Guinea. Now that it has been cleared of Japanese except for the oil center on the West coast (who knew New Guinea had oil? Not me. This is such a great game) there really is no place to go until the Americans get stronger. B-17s continue to have fun bombing Truk and doing no damage but at the very least annoying Scott. Darwin and airfields in that area have a large concentration of B-24s that have hit some of the economic targets in range and have been bombing Japanese airfields.

American submarines continue to have lousy torpedos. It is very sad to see 5-6 separate attacks in one game day and have all of the shots go "boink". Scott keeps offering to buy deadblow hammers from me so he can smooth out all the dents on his ships. It does appear that Japanese ASW is getting better as he is registering more hits on my submarines. This does not bode well for the future.

There was an American Carrier raid on Kwajalein (sp?) and Roi-Namur. I caught his by surprise on the first day and did not low level damage. The next day, my dive-bombers sank three submariines in port and did heavy damage to two AS (I suspect that these sank but I don't know it for a fact). Scott, however, hit me with a strike of 50+ Betty's coming in at low level. His 36 zeros held off my 45 Wildcats and he scored hits on two of my carriers. That night, in a lucky move, I had a the South Dakota bombard RoiNamure and it's a good thing since intel reported 10 destroyed Betty's and 70 [X(] damaged! That and the odd 10 Nells or so. It would have been bad the next day since only two of my carriers could fly CAP and I was limping away. Alls well that ends well and I'm out of range but it was touch and go. Starting to see the CVE flood.

It seems to me that if I have CAP at 20K then the torpeod bombers sneak through but if my CAP is too low then it gets wiped out by his escorts. Hard to figure out a way to counter this so any advice would be appreciated.
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Hi John B. You are doing very well in this game - sounds like Yorktown is your only carrier loss?

To answer your question, CAP is best layered. Depending on the number of sqns available, I spread them more or less evenly between 7000 feet and the max altitude of my highest flying aircraft. If I have plenty of sqns, I set the aircraft about 5000 feet apart in altitude with multiple sqns at each level, but varying the max range of the CAP. In 1942 I would not range [defensive CAP] out more than about 3 hexes - your radar can't detect raids beyond that.
However if I wanted to put LRCAP over a distant point the three hex rule goes out. Hope that helps.
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BBfanboy, a belated thanks for your sound advice. Layering has managed to put the kibosh on a number of Japanese bombers!

As an update, it is now February 1943. My offensive in Burma was a miserable failure. I did manage to surround three IJA divisions but he busted through the ring and escaped back into Thailand and all I had to show for it was lots of dead british. Not much has happened there since that attack sputtered out except the odd fighter sweep now and again.

My torpedos finally started to work in January 43 and it was a glorious month with a hit registered nearly every day. But, February has not been as fun as it seems that a number of shot are bouncing off his hulls again which is very sad. I did get two dutch torpedos into a IJN CA off of Sebang and it may have gone down. ANd, I continue to be cursed by my faith in allied damage control as a British BB sank on its way to the repair yards.

In better allied news, I have liberated Timor and have active fighter bases going there. He did not have much of a land defense but he came at me with waves (and I mean waves) of Bettys and Helens. He lost a lot of planes and I have the island. My B-24s seem to have lost their mojo since he now shoots them down pretty easily whereas before they seemed to be immune.

IN China, I was bashing his varoious hexes but he has really been cranking out bombers and now he bombs my hexes with impunity at 4,000 feet. He sweeps with lots and lots of Tojos (which seem to be the best plane out there) so I can't get through to his bombers and I take major losses from my own fighters. So, it's turned into a bit of a stalemate for now.

Any tips, especially for China, would be most welcome.
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China is a mess no matter what, but you can make it tolerable.
First step - get out of the clear terrain and into the mountains/forests. The Chinese infantry do not have any weapons to fight tanks in the open and very little AA, so they need to hide out behind trees and boulders. There they will fight much better but do NOT attack with them unless the opposition has about 1/10 the raw AV [before adjustments for leadership, supply, etc.] They can defend very well with rifles and grenades but have nothing to dig the enemy out of foxholes except hoards of men with bayonets.

Second step - see what you can do about supply. Turn off repair of industries in China - it takes 1000 supply to repair one point of industry which means nearly 3 years before the repair pays off. If you hold the Burma road, try to use the supply increase/decrease arrows at the enroute bases to pull supply into China over successive turns. If the Burma road is closed, see if you can fly supply in from Burma.

Third step - use the AVG squadrons to ambush his bombers occasionally. Keep them well back out of range of his bombers, in Burma or Bengal if necessary, then fly them in to a Chinese base, set up CAP over the base he is bombing constantly and run the turn. Once you get a successful ambush, move the AVG to a different base or back to a rear area.

Fourth - Don't panic if a Chinese unit gets demolished. The unit comes back with something like 150 AV in a few months - that is often better than it had before it got demolished. You do lose the experience they had though. If a unit gets cut off behind Japanese lines, consider using it to go raiding - cutting his supply lines [especially the railways] and taking vacant bases.

Fifth - If you can, rotate your units actively in combat, sending the most fatigued and disrupted ones back and bringing forward those that have been resting.

If you have any specific areas you are concerned about post the map and you will get lots of people offering advice.
Good Luck!
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It has been awhile but lots has happened in the game. It is now mid-July 1943 and the battles continue to raid. The main action has been north of Darwin when I launched what I thought would be side show invasion of Boela. Well, Scott don't know no side show. The IJN came boiling out and in the course of a month several of my BBs lay at the bottom of "Battleship sound." Turns out it's not a good idea to have the battlewagons with the invasion force because, after they shoot everything off and the Jap heavies come out of the mist there is not much left for them to shoot with. I finally figured that out and there were some epic shootouts with the Mushashi going turtle after blasting two modern American BBs. My carrier aircraft evened the score with two Japanase BBs down but the edge there goes to Scott. I've not taken Boela free and clear as well as Ambon and I've just invaded the space north of that.

There are lots of Japanese plans but, faced with numerous carriers and land based air they have a tough time getting through. But, I'm well aware of the red Kamikaze line. If he's built up these many planes thus far, when I cross the magic line in the waves things will be bad for the US fleet.

Scott just took Attu and Kiska but got a little carrier suprise that took down an AMC of his invasion fleet.

My subs have slowed way way down and, oddly, the torpedos seem to have slipped back to their bad old ways. I have been keeping a rough count and, especially against any type of combat ship, the number of hits is less than 1 in 10. And this is after 30 or so hits with no detination.

Not much in Burma. I raid his airfields, he raids mine and we glare at each other. In China he is slowly closing the ring but I think that I've been making him pay the price. His airforce does as it pleases with me hoping for an ambush now and again. And there are clouds of transports flying supplies in.
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More news from the Front. It is now early september 1943 (and my torps finally seem to explode with some regularity). We are in Deep War all around the Pacific. First, in China. The IJA launched its first significant offensive in quite some time and captured Yenan. Their attempt to encircle the Red Chinese divisions appears to have failed for now but somehow somewhere Tokyo has dug up extra divisions. In Southern China my main army grouping has been able to jump Japanese hexes with few troops for a quick overrun but that has not happened as much as it did in the past. I still hold Kukong and Changsha (and I think Changsha is a key city) but the IJA airforce is too powerful to permit me to sustain any offensive out into the scary clear hexes.

In the India/Burma/Thailand front there has been a vicious battled taking place over at least three weeks east of Chang Mai. I have been pounding a number of Japanese units from the air on a daily basis and my four divisions and support units have engaged in a number of attacks. The Japanese, however, are a hardy bunch and despite the fact that I am inflicting casualties on what appears to be a 5-1 or greater basis they have not retreated. Scott gets more units there in the nick of time, but I've started to notice through recon that his garrison on the Burmese border has gotten thinner and thinnner. Perhaps a two pronged offensive at some point in the future?

In the South Pacific my trek up the islands towards Davo and the Southern Phillipines continues apace. Just today I captured Ternate having taken Namela and Ambon. He has very large garrisions on Kendari and Makassar but my total carrier superiority keeps the offensive moving. His BBs have disappeared and I know they will show up when I least want them. In the meantime, he nibbles away at my invasion fleets. Although he takes very heavy bomber losses, he sinks or damages an APA here and and LCI there and I can tell that will impact future offensives.

The big surprise was Operation Spanish Inquisition (as in no one suspects) when I sent two task forces totalling 4 fleet and 3 light carriers on a raid on the Japanese home islands. Unbeknownst to me, there were Japanese CVEs in port there which my fleet reacted towards. This meant that when I hightailed it out of there the next turn I was still in torpedo range of his Bettys and, alas, hits were scored. But, according to the air combat reports there were more than 100 Japanese planes shot down as unescorted bombers hurled themselves at my CAP. I think I got a number of merchant ships and escorts and the hits on the three smaller carriers (I think I sank one of them) was just a bonus.

The sub war continues and it's tough to guage. The torpedos are better and more subs keep rolling in. His merchant marine is much smaller than at the start of the war but I still need to make headway as his factories are cranking out the planes and Kamikaze day is coming sooner or later. He is not engaging in a merchant war but his subs continue to be a threat to my capital ships. One heartstopping moment was when the Enterprise showed up on the scope. Six torpedos were launched and none landed. I'm sure that captain will be shooting him self out of the tubes next time. But, I used to be able to keep his subs at bay with an ASW carpet where my ships were operating and they seem to have gotten better at avoiding that. One suspects radar is no longer foreign to the IJN submarine force.
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JB, I missed your March 26 post because I was out of the country. Sounds like you are having fun trying things - the DEI invasion was especially bold as most Japanese players will defend vigorously and it has lots of interlocking airfields - a real hornet's nest.

It sounds like things have bogged down a bit in Burma/Indochina. Japan has lots of divisions in Manchukuo [Kwantung Army] over the 8000 AV it must keep there to prevent the Russians from joining in. Over time they can buy them out and send them wherever needed. Beware the tanks and artillery if they get sent to China.

You are right to consider a second point of pressure to break the deadlock in Burma. If something isn't getting results, you must try something else. Japan can be strong enough to stop the Allies in a couple of places but not all around its perimeter. Good luck!
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NEWS FLASH - - - JAPAN BOWS TO THE INEVITABLE!!!

It is February 1944 and Scott has thrown in the towel about one week into Soviet intervention in Manchuria. He fought the good fight, but I think his losing 10 carriers off of Manus in May 1942 was too much to come back from. The update is as follows.

I had invaded Guam in October 1943 on a long distance mission from Pearl. That was pretty easy but then I tried to take Saipan on the bounce only to see a terrific amount of damage done by one of his shore batteries that sent three BBs to the naval yards. But, the lack of supply and an additional US Army division overcame the last of the defenders. Tinian was being battered day in and day out and would fall just as soon as I got more APAs there.

In the DEI things were going from bad to worse. I had taken Tarakan and used that as a fighter base to launch P-47s over Miri. The US Army B-24s followed and in about 2 weeks the Miri and Burnei oil fields were a smoking ruin. The same happened in Soerabaja on Java. Advanced fighter bases kept Japanese fighters at bay while the oil fields were bombed. I then invaded in central Java and cutting the island in two. The plan was to take Batavia then do to Palembang what I had done to Miri. I did not need to bomb Baliipapan as it was already cut off.

In Burma the lesson was just say no to drugs. We were at a stalemate and Scott had a cold. One evening while under the influence of cold medicine he launched a shock counter attack and that was the beginning of the end. His units kept retreating the wrong way and it would up with three IJA and two RTA divisions in a pocket at Chang Mai. The Indian army then broke through and headed down to the gates of Bangkok. Lots and lots of bombing on Chang Mai but it still held out for more than a month. On the upside, there was so much allied bombing that many of my bomber pilots were getting to 90 in their ground bombing capabilities.

Scott made a push in China but so much else was going on he could not sustain it. I had a large free group of Chinese armies who spent their free time jumping on isolated Japanese units and killing them. I think Scott stripped one point too many away from the Soviets as they came in and ended the war.

At sea Scott had suffered grievous losses in merchant ships and my subs were finding almost no targets at all. The IJN was a shadow of its former self with perhaps two escort carriers and 7 BBs to its name. In the meantime, I had all my CVs but one, all my CVLs but one, and clouds of CVEs. In short, it was total Allied dominance of the ocean.

So, we're going for best 2 out of three. :-) Thanks to everyone for their great advice.
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