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RE: Kill em all!

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ORIGINAL: Erkki
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George fighters is a bit better than Frank me thinks but it really depends on pilot quality.
Gun power has a quality of its own ... and George has those lovely 4x20mm. Some will say its a game engine thing, but pilots that I know say the more gun up front the better ... so I think the engine has gotten this aspect spot on (WTG Elf!!!)

Not sure about that... N1K might/should be better against bombers for sure but Ki-84 is so much faster it should definitely be better than N1K against fighters at least until the service rate 2 N1K2-J which PzB doesnt have yet. We here probably see difference in pilot quality and air unit leader stats plus PzB might deploy those 2 fighters differently.

As you can see Ki-84 has only marginally lower MVR while it climbs somewhat better and is considerably faster. Speed advantage is +29, which similar to what Ki-44 enjoys over Ki-43-IIb(+35mph) and Zero M5(+25mph)...

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Yep, read all the stats and know them. BUT, in the game (and IRL) firepower is a HUGE thing.

PzB's experience is exactly the same as mine. Now the REALLY good thing: Frank is IJA and George in IJN so you will get both and be able to fly both in combat. You can then draw your own opinion. Watch the replays carefully. What you see is when a George gets a shot, the target is hurt bad at a minimum. Each George attack removes on allied a/c (either a kill or a withdrawal due to damage) improving the overall odds each time. Its a big deal in the replays. You won't see that happen with any other plane, except some of the Hurri's.

PS: If the Frank had a 4x20mm version ... JFB dream machine. [;)]
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RE: Kill em all!

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The 10k pilots show a monthly cost of 50k HI...so most likely they're still in the pools or still counted as in training!?
Will try subs with low threat tolerance and see what happens! [:)]

If our fighters get "the dive" they're superior to their opponents no matter whether they're a Frank or a George.
Also, if they get into range of bombers they get 1 shot...so yes, heavy fire power is very important! The 4x30mm of the Me-262 + 12 rockets would be perfect!-)

Have anyone here tested the SAM fighter in number on KB carriers?
Should eat Hellcats for breakfast... [8D] Guess US carrier fighters will be upgrading to Bearcats in late 45 though.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 08, 44

Air Combat

Allies loose 10+ ac to flak over Moulmein each day and the bombers really doesn't make much of an impact.
Since we have plenty supplies, dozens of units, adequate support and lots of AA guns it's a solid stand.
- Tomorrow 2 tank divisions move in, bringing our total AV to 4000. That should be enough!

Morning Air attack on Moulmein , at 55,55
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Blenheim VD x 3
Liberator GR.III x 4
Spitfire VIII x 12
PV-1 Ventura x 6
A-20G Havoc x 85
B-17E Fortress x 5
B-17F Fortress x 3
B-24D Liberator x 6
B-24D1 Liberator x 14
B-24J Liberator x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 3
B-25D1 Mitchell x 23
B-25H Mitchell x 11
P-40N5 Warhawk x 38
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 38
PV-1 Ventura x 9

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim VD: 1 damaged
Liberator GR.III: 2 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 11 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 1 destroyed by flak
B-17F Fortress: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 3 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 33
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 1

Also attacking 11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 11th Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 48th Field Artillery Regiment ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Guards Division ...
Also attacking 11th Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Mortar Battalion ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Guards Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 11th Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 11th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Guards Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 11th Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 2nd Guards Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
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Morning Air attack on 1st Provisional Base Force, at 55,55 (Moulmein)
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 59 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-36 Mustang x 12
P-40N5 Warhawk x 21
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 12
PV-1 Ventura x 17

Allied aircraft losses
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 10 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
PV-1 Ventura: 10 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 1000 feet
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 1000 feet
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 1000 feet
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 1st JAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 1st Provisional Base Force ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 1st Provisional Base Force ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
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Morning Air attack on 11th Division, at 55,55 (Moulmein)
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Allied aircraft
Vengeance I x 25
P-40N5 Warhawk x 6

Allied aircraft losses
Vengeance I: 16 damaged
Vengeance I: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Vengeance I releasing from 2000'
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
2 x Vengeance I releasing from 2000'
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
7 x Vengeance I releasing from 2000'
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
4 x Vengeance I releasing from 3000'
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
4 x Vengeance I releasing from 3000'
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
4 x Vengeance I releasing from 4000'
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 69th Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 11th Division ...
Also attacking 69th Division ...
Also attacking 11th Division ...
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 52,54
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 11

Allied aircraft
Martlet IV x 2

No Japanese losses
No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAK Edward D. Baker, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DE Burden R. Hastings, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK David F. Barry, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x P1Y1 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
No.896 Sqn FAA with Martlet IV (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead

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Ground Combat

I've clung to Terapo for as long as possible, now the end is in sight but the place has dubious value after the fall of Buna and PM.
But, we fight for everything to delay delay delay the Allies!

Ground combat at Terapo (96,127)
Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1867 troops, 0 guns, 269 vehicles, Assault Value = 146
Defending force 1252 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 50

Allied adjusted assault: 65
Japanese adjusted defense: 11

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 4)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
369 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled

Assaulting units:
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
1st Army Tank Regiment

Defending units:
5th Indpt SNLF Coy
15th/C Div /6
35th Const Co

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Burma - Central Pacific

Our naval bombers from Port Blair have finally found a range that keeps them outside of leaky CAP from Rangoon.
2 liberty ships and a DE were destroyed today.

The enemy flotilla is drawing closer to Palmyra, 10 hexes now.
Sent a patrol boat close but no naval air attacks. Could be a feint...

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RE: Kill em all!

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Yep, read all the stats and know them. BUT, in the game (and IRL) firepower is a HUGE thing.

PzB's experience is exactly the same as mine. Now the REALLY good thing: Frank is IJA and George in IJN so you will get both and be able to fly both in combat. You can then draw your own opinion. Watch the replays carefully. What you see is when a George gets a shot, the target is hurt bad at a minimum. Each George attack removes on allied a/c (either a kill or a withdrawal due to damage) improving the overall odds each time. Its a big deal in the replays. You won't see that happen with any other plane, except some of the Hurri's.

PS: If the Frank had a 4x20mm version ... JFB dream machine. [;)]


I dont want to hijack this thread but one more comment... While it could be argued that the air battles in witpae are much bloodier than they were IRL, I still think we see way too many "damaged" and ops losses in relation to shot-downs.

There isnt a place on any WW2 fighter plane where one can place and detonate a 20mm or bigger shell(or say, a pressure or frag grenade) and not risk to mortally damage the airframe and put shrapnels everywhere that pierce the cockpit, fuel tanks, engine cooling system etc. For example Luftwaffe even downgraded Fw 190 from 4 x 20mm + 2 x 13mm by 2 cannons to the Fw 190 D-9 which was supposed to be used as air superiority fighter. One connecting burst would kill or disable anything already so the extra 20mms in wings would be just more weight and slow down the very important the rate of roll.

Same as the USAAF and USN didn't exactly feel an immediate need to upgrade from 50 cals to 3 to 4 times more powerful cannons, when 50 cals worked well enough against 90%+ fighter targets(then there were of course the logistics and the fact that US made cannons were crap and jammed all the time but still [;)] ).

Now against bombers its a different thing and as mentioned the fighters attacking bomber formations only got one chance so firepower was very important when the firing times were short to inflict maximum damage.

Not saying the game is wrong, this is just my opinion, and there for sure are more things as to why N1K is at least seemingly better than the Ki-84 in the game. If the battles were purely sweeps vs. CAP we might see slightly different results.

That 4-cannon Ki-84b... unfortunately the Ki-84a doesn't upgrade to it so its not worth the R&D, perhaps not even building at all as the Ki-84r can be accelerated to or almost the same arrival date. [:(]
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RE: Kill em all!

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If you look at the Ace board the top of the list got 12 George and 8 Frank pilots.
That's kinda typical...

Allied fighters are very durable so heavy armament is needed to bring them down right away.
Guess I would swap some speed and manouver for more heavy guns in AE [:)]

The Allied fleet is moving closer to Line Island, but it's slow going.
Carriers and heavy escorts spotted, seems like it's the real McCoy!

- Should we let Andy have the Line Islands if he can defeat the garrisons?
Not sure it's worth committing KB with so little LBA support.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 09, 44

Surface Combat

Pest controll at Buna...

Night Time Surface Combat, near Buna at 99,129, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu
DD Shikinami
DD Oboro
DD Mutsuki
DD Asakaze
DD Hayate

Allied Ships
PT-246
PT-261, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-298
PT-350, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-450
PT-451, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Buna at 99,129, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu
DD Shikinami
DD Oboro
DD Mutsuki
DD Asakaze
DD Hayate

Allied Ships
PT-66
PT-68, Shell hits 1
PT-75, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-77
PT-115

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Sub Attacks

This midget has been luring at Rangoon for weeks; the heavily damaged liberty ship hit by our Frances bombers yesterday is finished with 2 hits!

Submarine attack near Rangoon at 54,53

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-28

Allied Ships
xAK Edward D. Baker, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

xAK Edward D. Baker is sighted by SSX Ha-28
SSX Ha-28 launches 2 torpedoes

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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 46,58
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 14
Ki-84a Frank x 20

Allied aircraft
SBD-5 Dauntless x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 4 destroyed

CAP engaged:
S-601 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (4 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
203rd Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (6 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Moulmein , at 55,55
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Blenheim VD x 3
Liberator GR.III x 5
Spitfire VIII x 8
DB-7B x 1
PV-1 Ventura x 6
Spitfire VIII x 9
A-20G Havoc x 52
A-36 Mustang x 6
B-17E Fortress x 5
B-24D Liberator x 5
B-24D1 Liberator x 14
B-24J Liberator x 24
B-25C Mitchell x 10
B-25D1 Mitchell x 13
B-25H Mitchell x 9
P-40N5 Warhawk x 26
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 38
PV-1 Ventura x 8

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim VD: 1 damaged
Liberator GR.III: 2 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 10 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 2 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 17
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 2nd Guards Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Guards Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 11th Division ...
Also attacking 1st Provisional Base Force ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 11th Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 1st Provisional Base Force ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 11th Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 2nd Guards Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...

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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Merauke (89,124)
Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2809 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 129
Defending force 12338 troops, 197 guns, 179 vehicles, Assault Value = 391

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
4th South Seas Gsn
16th Naval Guard Unit
2nd Ind.Mixed Rgt /1
2nd Raiding Rgt /1
13th JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
53rd (Sep) Infantry Regiment
4th Australian Division
10 RAAF Base Force
10th RAAF M/W Sqn
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Ground combat at Terapo (96,127)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1859 troops, 0 guns, 269 vehicles, Assault Value = 146
Defending force 817 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21

Allied adjusted assault: 59
Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 59 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Terapo !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
636 casualties reported
Squads: 25 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 9 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 3

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
1st Army Tank Regiment

Defending units:
15th/C Div /6
35th Const Co
5th Indpt SNLF Coy

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Line Islands

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RE: Kill em all!

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Is it feasible to form a CL bases SC TF (or bombardment) to run into Rangoon full speed from Tavoy??
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Not really, risk of getting hurt by mines, PT boats and LBA is much to big to make it feasible...
What can a few cruisers achieve but get themselves sunk!?

Ok, this was a revealing turn!

The full buglieness of the Allied fleet near the Line Islands is revealed!
560 carrier ac hit Palmyra and 75 B-29 Superforts from Pearl followed up - the wars first deployment of these beasts.

Allied ac hit dozens of bases in Burma and New Guinea area as well.

How many CVs and CVEs should we expect Andy to field by now?
Guess we're looking at 25+ CVEs, 8 CVLs and ca 10 fleet carriers?


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 10, 44

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Palmyra , at 170,133
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 20
F4U-1A Corsair x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 198
TBF-1 Avenger x 7
TBM-1C Avenger x 110

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 33
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Morning Air attack on Palmyra , at 170,133
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 80
TBM-1C Avenger x 88

Allied aircraft losses
TBM-1C Avenger: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10
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Morning Air attack on Palmyra , at 170,133
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 10
TBM-1C Avenger x 24

Allied aircraft losses
TBM-1C Avenger: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2
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Morning Air attack on Palmyra , at 170,133
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 7
TBM-1C Avenger x 6

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 4
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Morning Air attack on Palmyra , at 170,133
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 60 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 66

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 24
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Morning Air attack on Palmyra , at 170,133
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 9

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Line Islands

First Matsu class destroyer type has arrived, cheap to build and relatively efficient but with a reduced top speed of 27 knots.
Ideal escort vessels...

We got ca 60k troops in Line Islands: 930 AV on Xmas and 570 spread out on the other atolls.
Far from enough fighters and bombers to take on the gigantic Allied fleet so we go for mines, subs, PT boats and night naval bombers to begin with.
There is also 2 light cruisers and a single destroyer at Xmas; the Island chains fleet...been there for years!-)

PS! Read in a newspaper today that they found the remains of a German tourist at Noku Hiva (teeth).
They think the cannibals ate him..guess they're fond of sauerkraut [8|]
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RE: Kill em all!

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OK, so now we know how Andy is going to advance ... Pacific, not north from OZ. Starting with Line Islands and working in ... all my guesses here ... interesting to see what the master thinks!

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RE: Kill em all!

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The whole Line Islands adventure, was purely to delay Australia routes. Since OZ already supported two invasions, and Allies are advancing through New Guinea, no reason to hold Line Islands anymore. Although knowing where Allied CVs are, opens interesting opportunity for KB. Maybe strike on PH, if you have it in the area? [:D]

But seriously, PM, or Rangoon/Akyab seems interesting...
ORIGINAL: PzB

We now have 3250 AV in Moulmein and 750 more in the form of 2 tank divisions are 2 days march away.
I am guessing we will see repeat of that situation. Now half of the army will cross the river on SE of Moulmein. By sending your Armored Divisions there you tied your fast reserves, you should get infantry there and put fast units on right flank.

How much forces are there around Mandalay? Although attack there seems tempting, you can at least send your bombers against lightly defended bases in open, to destroy supply.



I still think, that after Line Islands Andy will try Kuriles. He needs base to station B-29 in range of HI, and provide fighter support for sweeps. Although safer route will be to isolate Truk by invasions N-NE, and support from New Guinea.
Next possible land-supported targets will be Ambon, and Sumatra, so prepare yourself for those .
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RE: Kill em all!

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ORIGINAL: PzB
Ok, this was a revealing turn!

The full buglieness of the Allied fleet near the Line Islands is revealed!
560 carrier ac hit Palmyra and 75 B-29 Superforts from Pearl followed up - the wars first deployment of these beasts.

How many CVs and CVEs should we expect Andy to field by now?
Guess we're looking at 25+ CVEs, 8 CVLs and ca 10 fleet carriers?

I guess no one will want to give you definite advise on this one... and be the fool that suggested your way into disaster. Your instincts will hopefully guide you to the right decision anyway...

The CVx numbers seem sound, plus minus 2 in each category would be my guesstimate. Note that you spotted not only Hellcats, but also Corsairs -- perhaps from the CVE? For sure the pure number alone ain't telling the whole story at this date, not only because the 4EB "airbase and ships-in-port" killer B-29 is participating. The big question to me seems to be Andy pilot quality, especially the fighter jockeys -- after the big defeats at the line islands and at SRA it may be that they are now very numerous, but hardly exceed 60-70 in skill?

Whatever Andy put together this time, he must think that it is more than enough to risk a battle with KB and to defeat large island garrisons. So a CV battle would seem quite a risk. Of course the thought of inflicting another blowing defeat here is very attractive, especially since that could this time mean the end of the war. But if it becomes a draw, or even defeat, one will have to ask for what reason the battle was fought at all. And the others have said it, the Line Islands have somewhat lost their important strategic value by now as Japanese offensive capabilities, and the threat the islands thus pose as a staging area, are diminishing slowly. Strategy has switched from holding all gains to delaying the advance. Since you have little LBA there compared to a fight staged on the Marinas or elsewhere, plus you have a veeeery long distance to the HI for any damaged ship to travel, the cards seem to be speak against putting KB at stake now. However, I would hold it close by in case Andy commits another fubar, or suffers another "really bad luck" day. That would be my thinking. But don't let yourself be misguided by that.
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The whole Line Islands adventure, was purely to delay Australia routes.
Good point. So not necessarily a Pacific thrust, he could just be shortening his supply lines to OZ for the DEI movement ...
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Just had a chance to look at today’s turn and the combined strength of the Allied B29s and CAG hit Xmas island!
Despite the ferocity of the attacks poor weather shielded us a bit. So while we lost an AV in port to a lucky 500lb bomb, damage to 2 other ships
and the loss of ~35 ac on the ground our fighters put up a good fight. A dozen sweeps by Corsair CAG fighters removed our CAP and claimed ca 40 fighters shot down, but in return 50 Corsairs and 10 bombers were shot down. In total Allied losses exceeded Jap losses today and we saw the first
2 B29 OPS losses. The range from Pearl to Xmas is 31 hexes, so I guess they operate at extended range (30-35 hexes?).

Also, a lucky spotter ac from Johnston Island spotted one of our surface combat TFs leading the KB east from Marshalls.

As discussed correctly above it’s a big questions whether we should involve KB, especially without LBA cover.
Our air units at Xmas Island were still at 50-60% strength but I moved them all out, transferred the pilots and withdrew the remaining damaged ac.
- The losses to another full strength attack would not justify them making a last stand and isolated there.

All major shipping units in Line Islands will evacuate, midget subs, PT boats and subs will remain behind.

My plan is to keep KB “in the shadows” – Andy will know we’re “around” and be forced to be more careful in how he use it and reserve most of his CAG strike ac for naval targets.

I haven’t spotted an invasion force yet, perhaps it’s incoming but we’ll see! [:)]
Any comments to this last screen and developments?

We only got a screening force near Mandalay, some regiments and support units in rough hexes forcing Andy to deploy a larger force to get rid of us. One more turn and our force in Central Burma will cross the river and be 1 hex worth of jungle from Chiang Mai. So another 25 days and this 2000 AV army will be available again. If Andy moves SSE into the jungle east of Moulmein he will have to split his force and it will take him 25 days to move south again through jungle to cut off the railroad going east from Moulmein. By this time we will have 3-4 tank divisions read plus the Central Burma Army to counter this move and most likely we will be able to reduce to Moulmein Army to 2500 AV if Andy splits his force in 2. This should be more than sufficient to also block a march through the jungle!?

Time is our friend and the more time that passes the more reinforcements we receive and our routed LCUs will be given time to rebuild.
Behind the scenes I’m busy building Marianas and Phillippines for endgame play! I would welcome a move through the Kuriles; KB at full strength plus LBA will make this a dream scenario compared to the alternatives.

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A long report, and I've cut away 65% of the not so interesting bombing missions [:'(]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 11, 44

Sub Attacks

A lone US destroyer enters Palmyra....

ASW attack near Palmyra at 170,133

Japanese Ships
SS I-169

Allied Ships
DD Lawrence

SS I-169 is sighted by escort
DD Lawrence fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Lawrence fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Lawrence fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Lawrence fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Lawrence fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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Far away on the US West Coast....
Our sub still can, too bad only 2 torps were fired on this CVE!

Submarine attack near Eureka at 213,65

Japanese Ships
SS I-36

Allied Ships
CVE Saginaw Bay, Torpedo hits 1

CVE Saginaw Bay is sighted by SS I-36
SS I-36 launches 2 torpedoes at CVE Saginaw Bay

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Surface Combat

Night Time Surface Combat, near Palmyra at 170,133, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-7
MTB G-1
MTB G-2
MTB G-3
MTB G-4
MTB G-5

Allied Ships
DD Lawrence

DD Lawrence engages MTB G-5 at 11,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 63
N1K1-J George x 72

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 6 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet

CAP engaged:
S-305 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 22 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 35000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
752 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 16 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 22000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
4th Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 16 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 37000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
204 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 27 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 23000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 58
N1K1-J George x 71

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 45
N1K1-J George x 61

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 36
N1K1-J George x 47

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 29
N1K1-J George x 36

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 24
N1K1-J George x 26

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 20
N1K1-J George x 18

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 2 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 12
N1K1-J George x 16

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 7
N1K1-J George x 13

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 6
N1K1-J George x 4

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Corsair II sweeping at 30000 feet
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We continue to snip enemy shipping near Rangoon!

Morning Air attack on TF, near Bassein at 51,52
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 9
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
PF Glendale, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Modjekerto, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x P1Y1 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 5
N1K1-J George x 1

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 195
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 136
TBM-1C Avenger x 162

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
N1K1-J George: 1 damaged
P1Y1 Frances: 6 destroyed on ground
Ki-56 Thalia: 1 destroyed on ground
B6N1 Jill: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged
TBM-1C Avenger: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
AV Kamoi, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1
N1K1-J George x 1

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 15
F6F-3 Hellcat x 48
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 62
TBF-1 Avenger x 7
TBM-1C Avenger x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N1 Jill: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 5 damaged
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 1 destroyed by flak
TBM-1C Avenger: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1
N1K1-J George x 1

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 42
TBM-1C Avenger x 38

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AD Shintoku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 20
F6F-3 Hellcat x 11
TBM-1C Avenger x 15

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AV Kamoi, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Yae Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Barracuda II x 20
Corsair II x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Barracuda II: 1 damaged
Barracuda II: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 3
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 61

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 4 destroyed on ground
B6N1 Jill: 1 destroyed on ground
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-56 Thalia: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 64 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Pacific

75 Allied carrier ac claimed...not bad against such odds!
Andy can forget about Marianas! [:D]

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We have to investigate this turn, I've been talking to Andy and we have ageed to send the turn to Michael for analysis.

Scenario: Andy ordered an all out sweep of Pisanlouke with 400 fighters from Rangoon and follow up by heavy bombing mission.
Result: All Allied fighters stayed home and didn't sweep (Rangoon shrouded in, but bombers still flew).
- The 160 bombers and 30 escort fighters from Rangoon - Pegu area hit Pisanlouke, but we defended with 200 Franks and George's.
The CAP had 30+ min warning time and I expected massacre.

What happened? Another battle like the carrier battle were we flew through Andy's CAP.
After gunning down some bombers and escorts the bombers suddenly slipped through and nuked Pisanlouke.
The 160 bombers caused 100 / 97 damage.

While losses were rather light, we lost some 20 transports and 20 fighters, I was very disheartened by the fact that 200 crack fighters
can't stop 160 meds and 4Es from closing a major base complex. This isn't real!! [:o]

John, did Michael give any comment on that?
Actually this turn I had a similar situation:
Crsutton parked his CVs near Soerabaja and attacked the oil fields.
I expected quite a long fight, but to my surprise after 2 or 3 my fighters attacked the whole raid just go through CAP!

Morning Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 31
J2M3 Jack x 27
N1K1-J George x 14
N1K2-J George x 17
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 34

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 10
F6F-3 Hellcat x 190
SBD-5 Dauntless x 156
TBM-1C Avenger x 113

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
TBM-1C Avenger: 2 damaged

Oil hits 24
Fires 644


I found that the weather has tremendous impact here...
but shouldn't the bombers stay at home more often than fighters in wrong weather?...
IMHO something is wrong here... like you said... CAP is not that deadly as in WITP but now sometimes it's just mediocre poor...
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 31
J2M3 Jack x 25
N1K1-J George x 14
N1K2-J George x 17
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 33

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 36
TBF-1 Avenger x 13
TBM-1C Avenger x 30

Oil hits 6
Fires 750


BTW: During the next attack 43 bombers brought 750 [sic!] fires!
Bigger fires than the first wave of 5x more attackers...
So: JFB, beware. Defend your oil fields... oh no, there's no way to defend it... the CAP is just too mediocre...
I should expect my fighters defend the crucial resources such as oil with a bigger zeal... [:D]
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Viberpol; no Michael didn't. I don't think we have enough..."quantitative" evidence for this yet but I'm pretty sure there is an issue here.
What I think is happening is that to scale down A2A lethality engagements are broken off earlier. With large groups of ac clashing we repeatedly see
that large number of fighters simply skirmish and that the bulk of the bomber stream slips through.

The results of this is that a base protected by 500 CAP fighters can be nuked by a single 4E attack.
With the removal of the "bug" that allowed us to rail damaged air units out of bases this means that the 500 CAP fighters will be trapped in the now 100 damaged base and
can be nuked next turn.

However, it also means that large scale carrier battles often will end like the last battle we had with Andy; the bulk of Jap CAG bombers simply slips through an Uber CAP and
kills the fleet. Vice Versa would always a risk in 44 anyway since Allied Hellcats and Corsairs are so superior to the Jap Zeke.

So if we risk a full scale carrier fight with Andy's reformed fleet we will most likely be able to hit it with a hammer again...

This turn was interesting to say the least!
We finished the damaged CVE - confirmations was 40 Wildcats and Avengers reported destroyed on the ground [:)]

The enemy fleet continues to hammer Line Islands but no sign of an invasion fleet.
Our air and naval assets were able to evacuate to safety.

In Burma an artillery regiment "opened" the border to the trapped 4th Division; supply now flows and the division has started its slow
trek through the jungle towards friendly lines. Andy needs to take some major action to cut it off completely again. So perhaps we'll manage to
get it out one day!

Our Army in Central Burma has also crossed the river north of Chiang Mai; it's now marching towards "freedome". I've left a rearguard.
Already a full division has reached Chiang Mai, it is reduced to 2/3 fighting strength and I will keep it at Chiang Mai for R&R in reserve.

So things are looking up in Burma for now.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 12, 44

Sub Attacks

The last patch split sub torpedo tubes; we now have 2-3-4x2 tubes and not all are loaded.
So the Captain is forced to fire salvoes of 2 fish...suspect this CVE of running the gauntlet unescorted though.

Submarine attack near San Francisco at 217,70

Japanese Ships
SS I-4

Allied Ships
CVE Saginaw Bay, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

CVE Saginaw Bay is sighted by SS I-4
SS I-4 launches 2 torpedoes at CVE Saginaw Bay
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Submarine attack near San Francisco at 217,70

Japanese Ships
SS I-4

Allied Ships
xAK William J. Gray, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

xAK William J. Gray is sighted by SS I-4
SS I-4 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK William J. Gray

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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 52,54
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 9
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 16

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
LCT-367, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-322, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-323, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x P1Y1 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
10 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 15000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.242 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion, at 174,141 (Christmas Island)
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 20
Corsair II x 54
F4U-1A Corsair x 156
F6F-3 Hellcat x 115
TBF-1 Avenger x 7
TBM-1C Avenger x 215

Allied aircraft losses
TBM-1C Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
208 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 15 (1 destroyed, 14 disabled)

Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 19th Army ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 18th Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 41st Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking Sasebo 6th SNLF ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 56th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking Sasebo 6th SNLF ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking Sasebo 6th SNLF ...
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 35

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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The attacks on Moulmein are not very efficient.

Morning Air attack on Moulmein , at 55,55
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-20G Havoc x 95
P-40N5 Warhawk x 7

Allied aircraft losses
A-20G Havoc: 26 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 14

Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking Moulmein ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
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Morning Air attack on Fanning Island , at 172,137
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 12

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Palmyra , at 170,133
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 59 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 14

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb -> Full load, standard range
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 6

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
-> reduced load, max range
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at 60,43 (near Katha)
Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 315 troops, 23 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 453
Defending force 8617 troops, 160 guns, 118 vehicles, Assault Value = 150

Assaulting units:
4th Division
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
1st Garrison Brigade
108th RAF Base Force
RAF 221 Group Base Force
1st KNIL AA Battalion
Tenth USAAF /1

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Pacific

Seems like our AA units now upgrade from 75 to 88mm AA gun!

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RE: Kill em all!

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ORIGINAL: PzB

With the removal of the "bug" that allowed us to rail damaged air units out of bases this means that the 500 CAP fighters will be trapped in the now 100 damaged base and
can be nuked next turn.

This verbiage two Beta patches ago makes it look like maybe you got that backwards???
Fixed Railway move of groups at heavily damaged AFs not always working [MEM]
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RE: Kill em all!

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It's possible, Michael said "I have corrected the rail bug in 1108q9a."
- Since we haven't installed this yet the inability to move air units by rail may be "bugged" now.

But my problem was that I couldn't move air units with both operational and damaged ac, only groups with damaged ac.
Andy has asked some more questions, so let's see what's correct [:)]
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RE: Kill em all!

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Good news, Michale says that "I couldn't see how it worked in the code, even though you say it did.
I have fixed it so that it works 'again'."

So in the next patch ac transfer via rail should be working properly again! [:)]

Lots of action again; just a selection of air missions below, this is the time when Allied air goes bonkers.
The Allied fleet is now 1 hex of Christmas Island and they're hitting the coastal units.

A sub that got in their way was promptly sunk; still it's tempting to try to nail another carrier.
In New Guinea we claimed a large AMC and some smaller vessels while 16 B-17s were ambushed over Tavoy.
- I noticed they were coming in now and then without an escort. Think this was the last remaining B-17s and now they're almost extinct.
Good riddance!

We also tried a surprise attack at Akyab with paras, noticed only a small base force there.
Ordered bombers to hit the place but of course, clouded in both AM and PM. We got a 2-1 odds but 6 forts kept the place alive.
Still, trying to force Andy to garrison his rear areas.

In Moulmein - Bangkok region we now have assembled reserves, enough to counter the 350k troops north of Moulmein.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 13, 44

Sub Attacks

ASW attack near Christmas Island at 175,139

Japanese Ships
SS I-153, hits 14, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Nashville
DD Knapp
DE Manning
DE Harmon
DD Marshall

SS I-153 is sighted by escort
DD Marshall attacking submerged sub ....
Debris floats to surface in area of attack!
Escort abandons search for sub

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Surface Combat

Enemy destroyers sortie into Xmas Island.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Christmas Island at 174,141, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-18
MTB G-19
MTB G-20, Shell hits 2, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Boyd
DD Burns
DD Colahan
DD Gatling
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Christmas Island at 174,141, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-18, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
MTB G-19, Shell hits 5, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Converse
DD Haggard
DD Ingersoll
DD William Porter

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 23,000 yards
Range closes to 28,000 yards...
Range closes to 26,000 yards...
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 22,000 yards...
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 12,000 yards...

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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on TF, near Merauke at 89,124
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 19
B6N1 Jill x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AMC Chitral, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
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Morning Air attack on 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion, at 174,141 (Christmas Island)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 20
Barracuda II x 18
Corsair II x 55
F4U-1A Corsair x 162
F6F-3 Hellcat x 298
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 192
TBF-1 Avenger x 7
TBM-1C Avenger x 215

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 4 damaged
TBM-1C Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
338 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 19 (1 destroyed, 18 disabled)

Also attacking 19th Army ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 41st Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 56th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking Sasebo 6th SNLF ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 18th Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 18th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 12th Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 53rd Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 19th Army ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 41st Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 56th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking Sasebo 6th SNLF ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 19th Army ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 56th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking Sasebo 6th SNLF ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 19th Army ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 56th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking Sasebo 6th SNLF ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 19th Army ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 56th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking Sasebo 6th SNLF ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 19th Army ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 56th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking Sasebo 6th SNLF ...
Also attacking 54th Division ...
Also attacking 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion ...
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Morning Air attack on Woodlark Island , at 104,133
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 14
B-25D1 Mitchell x 47
B-25G Mitchell x 15
B-25H Mitchell x 10

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 13 damaged
B-25G Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 4 damaged

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 50
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Morning Air attack on Merauke , at 89,124
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIc x 7
Beaufort VIII x 12
Mitchell II x 3
A-20G Havoc x 5
B-24J Liberator x 37
B-25D1 Mitchell x 3
B-25G Mitchell x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Port hits 16
Port supply hits 5

Also attacking 2nd Ind.Mixed Rgt /1 ...
Also attacking 2nd Raiding Rgt /1 ...
Also attacking Merauke ...
Also attacking 2nd Ind.Mixed Rgt /1 ...
Also attacking 16th Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking Merauke ...
Also attacking 16th Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking Merauke ...
Also attacking 2nd Ind.Mixed Rgt /1 ...
Also attacking 16th Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 2nd Ind.Mixed Rgt /1 ...
Also attacking Merauke ...
Also attacking 2nd Ind.Mixed Rgt /1 ...
Also attacking Merauke ...
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 35

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Tavoy , at 54,60
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 30

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 12
B-17F Fortress x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-301 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
254 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
S-320 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
S-324 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on Fanning Island , at 172,137
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 16

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Palmyra , at 170,133
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 13

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Christmas Island , at 174,141
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 53 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 7

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Merauke at 89,124
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 118 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 19
B6N1 Jill x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N1 Jill: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAKL Darvel
xAKL Washingtonian, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

Washingtonian dead in the water ...
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Merauke at 89,125
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 20
P1Y1 Frances x 9

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
LCT-466, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-476
LCT-461

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x P1Y1 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
7 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 9000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.80 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire VIII (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Akyab (54,45)
Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 891 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 67
Defending force 440 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21

Japanese adjusted assault: 40
Allied adjusted defense: 17

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 6)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 4

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
46 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Yokosuka Assault SNLF /1

Defending units:
Upper Burma BAF Battalion

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Christmas Island invaded!

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Here's a teaser for the next turn!
Only watched combat replay and had a look so far.

Andy lands at Christmas Island; the largest atoll in the game!
6 full divisions + support goes ashore after bombardments.

We send in midgets, subs and PT boats to disrupt landings.
Seems like not all enemy troops got ashore this turn.

The result was a negative 1-2 odds with 6 forts on the island.
Losses were roughly equal. Will require a prolonged battle from Andy to secure this island chain.
- Wrecking 6 or more enemy divisions would be a welcome treat [:)]

KB is lurking somewhere to the west - Allied carriers didn't perform ground attacks today so KB is serving
a purpose just by "hanging around". We even managed to shoot down 3 Superforts as fighters returned to one of the Line Islands.

What do you think about all this!?

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 14, 44

Ground combat at Christmas Island (174,141)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 38742 troops, 1401 guns, 760 vehicles, Assault Value = 2076
Defending force 32328 troops, 389 guns, 240 vehicles, Assault Value = 878

Allied adjusted assault: 199
Japanese adjusted defense: 574

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
2526 casualties reported
Squads: 75 destroyed, 64 disabled
Non Combat: 83 destroyed, 60 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 52 disabled
Guns lost 61 (25 destroyed, 36 disabled)
Vehicles lost 36 (4 destroyed, 32 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2153 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 161 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 65 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 32 disabled
Guns lost 126 (7 destroyed, 119 disabled)
Vehicles lost 102 (4 destroyed, 98 disabled)

Assaulting units:
193rd Tank Bn /19
6th Infantry Div /14
3rd Marine Div /14
93rd Infantry Div /14
1st Marine Div /14
37th Infantry Div /15
22nd Marine Rgt /19
43rd Infantry Div /1
627th TD Bn /19

Defending units:
Sasebo 6th SNLF
54th Division
18th Tank Regiment
18th Naval Guard Unit
41st Infantry Regiment
Yokosuka 3rd SNLF
12th Engineer Regiment
144th Infantry RCT /1
3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion
53rd Construction Battalion
4th Air Division
56th JNAF AF Unit
6th Naval Construction Battalion
26th Air Defense AA Regiment
19th Army
5th JAAF AF Bn
49th JNAF AF Unit
15th JNAF AF Unit
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th RF Gun Battalion
4th Fleet
80th JAAF AF Bn

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Invasion of Christmas Island

Good news is that we're not going to run out of supplies...we've learned something!
Troop disruption is relatively high, but enemy must be worse off and they have to shock attack each turn.

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RE: Kill em all!

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Good news, Michale says that "I couldn't see how it worked in the code, even though you say it did.
I have fixed it so that it works 'again'."
Whoo-Hoooo!!


And I'm just starting (re-starting the re-start of at least a 5th generation game). [:D][;)][:'(][&:][8D]
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RE: Kill em all!

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Christmas Is.

Clearly Andy's invasion prep worked well as (based upon the number of destroyed squads for you) your units must have been highly disrupted. If he keeps your unit disruption high, it isn't clear to me that you will hold out too long. Yes, he has to shock attack, but most of his unit losses were disabled not destroyed, which can recover fairly quickly. Your losses were the opposite, +75 AV permanently lost on this attack.

I have to admit, I am surprised that he is able to do so well. Against level 6 forts on an atoll. RL comparable is Iwo which the allies started bombing one year in advance of invasion. OTOH, his first day losses of 6% are well within reason as compared to RL US atoll amphib ops.
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