Doolittle Raiders executed, Why ?

[LoBaron]

If every thread started by an - admittedly a bit clumsy - troll was instalocked, where could we bored ones
amuse ourselves? [:'(]

[henhute6]

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

But since Japan has never ofifcially (unlike Germany) acknowleged that they did something wrong, I found less fault about calling them with names....

I don't remember what countries have apologized. Have Great Britain, France, Dutch, or USA apologized their actions? Japan was not the first imperialistic country in the area. It was a late comer to the party.

I guess the original writer was some yankee bastard and that's why he uses such a language. I can understand that he sees his own country men as a "good guys", but that looks little bit redicilous to others.

[LoBaron]

ORIGINAL: henhute6
I don't remember what countries have apologized. Have Great Britain, France, Dutch, or USA apologized their actions? Japan was not the first imperialistic country in the area. It was a late comer to the party.

I guess the original writer was some yankee bastard and that's why he uses such a language. I can understand that he sees his own country men as a "good guys", but that looks little bit redicilous to others.

May I introduce to you the little troll assistent? Also known as parasite-troll?
If we continue for a bit the whole family might show guys. [;)]

[Sardaukar]

ORIGINAL: henhute6

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

But since Japan has never ofifcially (unlike Germany) acknowleged that they did something wrong, I found less fault about calling them with names....

I don't remember what countries have apologized. Have Great Britain, France, Dutch, or USA apologized their actions? Japan was not the first imperialistic country in the area. It was a late comer to the party.

I guess the original writer was some yankee bastard and that's why he uses such a language. I can understand that he sees his own country men as a "good guys", but that looks little bit redicilous to others.

Please remove this thread. This dicusssion is not AE-stuff.

[henhute6]

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Please remove this thread. This dicusssion is not AE-stuff.

No, this should be a sticky so that poor little fuckers like the original writer, don't need to start a thread like this. Maybe this forum needs some rules. Words like jap makes a few month ban. That should be educating enough.

[USSAmerica]

Popcorn, rum punch, and a troll fueled flame war.  It's gonna be a good day.  [:D]

[dr.hal]

Although this discussion is a very valid discussion, the whole tone was tainted by the first post and a number there after. Which is sad, as it is important. Culture is a very difficult aspect of humanity to understand. The reason is simple, we all filter our information input through our own cultural bias. Thus many Westerners can not understand Sharia Law and and its "draconian" penalties. An interesting point about the Japanese culture at the time was the fact of how they treated their OWN Japanese soldiers who surrendered and were "liberated" by the Japanese at a later point. The surrendering troops were treated as lepers and many took their own lives rather than live with the "shame". So some actions that an alternative culture are indeed difficult to understand... and there are very valid reasons for that misunderstanding. What is not appropriate is to make culturally derogatory statements based upon that misunderstanding.

[Sardaukar]

ORIGINAL: henhute6

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Please remove this thread. This dicusssion is not AE-stuff.

No, this should be a sticky so that poor little fuckers like the original writer, don't need to start a thread like this. Maybe this forum needs some rules. Words like jap makes a few month ban. That should be educating enough.

This is apparently material for THE THREAD in War Room!!!! [:D]

[LoBaron]

dr.hal, no offense, but independent of whether such a topic is started by an idiot troll
or a historically challenged person, it will end in trash talk.

Which doesn´t mean that this usually is not funny... [;)]

[sandman455]

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar


Please remove this thread. This dicusssion is not AE-stuff.

WHOAaa! Hold up there Sardaukar. I apologize for getting off topic with this here post, but I gots to know. . .

If you remove this thread will my post count go down??? You know some of us are trying hard to get the Matrix Trooper title.

Heck, with sarcastic grunt-whine being my native language - I work damn hard on each of my posts.

[LoBaron]

ORIGINAL: sandman455

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar


Please remove this thread. This dicusssion is not AE-stuff.

WHOAaa! Hold up there Sardaukar. I apologize for getting off topic with this here post, but I gots to know. . .

If you remove this thread will my post count go down??? You know some of us are trying hard to get the Matrix Trooper title.

Heck, with sarcastic grunt-whine being my native language - I work damn hard on each of my posts.

Yes, but don´t be afraid, the solution usually is MUD. Yes, MUD.

[jeffk3510]

Wholly train wreck batman...

[USSAmerica]

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

ORIGINAL: henhute6

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Please remove this thread. This dicusssion is not AE-stuff.

No, this should be a sticky so that poor little fuckers like the original writer, don't need to start a thread like this. Maybe this forum needs some rules. Words like jap makes a few month ban. That should be educating enough.

This is apparently material for THE THREAD in War Room!!!! [:D]

Nope, we regularly keep the place swept clean of trash!

[dr.hal]

LoBaron, no offense taken as I know none was intended. However I don't agree (respectfully of course) that this sort of conversation need go into the trash heap. This is very much a topic within academia and other places higher up the food chain than a trash bin. If you cut out the trash, which is a lot of this thread, there is some useful discourse. Hal

[LoBaron]

So, how do you limit to meaningful posts in a forum as this one? Post a sign "no brainfarts permitted"?
I give this a whooping chance of 0.01% to work out.

This may be interesting topic to read a book about, to be discussed with friends, or with a limited group of invite only
participants who have agreed over a couple of houserules beforehand.

On the internet its just an invitation to sell crap. [;)]

[dr.hal]

Not sure, eliminate selective posts? Screen "members" early and keep track of violations, three strikes and you're out? But I don't think the actions of a few, no matter how low, should dictate the discourse of the many....

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: sandman455

Troll (Internet) Defined: Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response, or otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.   (Wikipedia)


Examples (other than what was provided by the OP):

"WTF is up with Dresden. The city had almost no military significance and yet they intentionally burned alive 25000 civilians, and for what?"

"Of course you will have those who revel in the toil of humanity to find understanding and purpose - Who try to rise above some imaginary level of self assigned civility as if it was going to make us something more than we are. Sorry, but we are no different than anything else that inhabits this 'blue dot.' We are nothing - a transient carbon based life form and that's all we will ever be. So go get another cup of coffee or a cold one and try to find happiness while you can."


Feeding the Trolls Defined:
See this post

one can add:

HUH, I don't get what Sadman455's point was ? I was confused about why the Japs. executed the raiders but I'm even more confused about Sadman's post....Is Sadman calling himself a "troll" ? Who is this Sadman ? Why is he ranting about "troll" ?

This is called Feigning ignorance. Thats usually a dead giveaway too when a provocative/emotional response is being fished for. Myself, my personal favorite flavor of this is "what is troll? are you a lover of bridges? I don't get it!"

If your truely interested in the Doolittle Raid and some of the motivations and reactions amongst the Japanese military, a simple querry would have sufficed without the racial slurs and alleged emotional outrage.

Reporting this thread to the moderators. We all know where this is going to end up. [8|]

[Treetop64]

I hear keys jingling...

[sandman455]

Alas, I kind of hope they just lock it because I'm starting to become attached to my post. The first example was:

A Nietzsche morality play using the dichotomy of
- the singular atrocity made by the few firmly committed
- versus the mass atrocity made by the many indifferent
Very stylish don't you think? I'm sure Friedrich's ghost would have at least given me a nod.

The second was to a tip of the hat to Carl Sagan's most noble attempt for humanity to come together and live in peace by showing how insignificance can actually be utterly significant. Sorry Carl, but it was a pipe dream.

Finally to finish it off, I stuck in some circular reasoning as if I'm some kind of cloud living troglyte who is too busy torturing the works of dead cloud minders to get his hands dirty like others down below mining zenite.


OMG - In a single post I'm able to offend the work of Nietzsche, Sagan and make a Star Trek reference. . . and the post count surges towards 30.

Please Please, no applause or bows. I'm embarrassed.

[Schanilec]

I say. Tennis anyone?