The Power of Inexperience / GreyJoy(A)-Rader(J)

[obvert]

Here is the section from tha manual:

7.4.2.3 KAMIKAZES
Kamikazes are activated if the Allies own a base within 15 hexes (traced by sea only) of either
Tokyo, Takao, or Saigon. However, these will never activate before January 1, 1944. Once
Kamikazes are activated, the Air Unit Information Screen for Japanese players will show
a Kamikaze option if no squadron has been converted to kamikaze yet this day and if the
aircraft squadron is of the appropriate type (essentially anything other than a Transport aircraft
squadron can become a Kamikaze squadron). The player is limited to one conversion per day,
but may not re-convert a Kamikaze unit to regular status. The computer will prompt the player
to confirm their choice before proceeding, giving you a chance to reconsider.

[Dan Nichols]

ORIGINAL: obvert

Here is the section from tha manual:

7.4.2.3 KAMIKAZES
Kamikazes are activated if the Allies own a base within 15 hexes (traced by sea only) of either
Tokyo, Takao, or Saigon. However, these will never activate before January 1, 1944. Once
Kamikazes are activated, the Air Unit Information Screen for Japanese players will show
a Kamikaze option if no squadron has been converted to kamikaze yet this day and if the
aircraft squadron is of the appropriate type (essentially anything other than a Transport aircraft
squadron can become a Kamikaze squadron). The player is limited to one conversion per day,
but may not re-convert a Kamikaze unit to regular status. The computer will prompt the player
to confirm their choice before proceeding, giving you a chance to reconsider.

From the patch notes:

78. Gameplay Change: The kamikaze activation range has been changed from 15 to 20 hexes. The range was not changed when the game scale was changed

[JohnDillworth]

3. Allied strategic bombing did not feel "right." Even B-29s were able to accomplish very little. My failure to pilot train might be part of the equation, but I believe Bullwinkle found the same to be true in his game. Blying B-29s at fairly long range (say 15 hexes or more) against decent fighter opposition isn't going to bludgeon Japanese industry.

While the B-29's are not up to snuff the B-17G's are. As this game could certainly go until 1946 you get scads of really, really good 4EB's in late 45 and on. The B-17G's absolutely rock and anything within their range will just cease to exist when they arrive along with all those p-51's. GreyJoy, if you have some cycles between turns you might want to start an AI game with the Downfall scenario. You could start to hone your tactics with you new toys vs. Japan's new toys. Those jets with the 4x30mm cannons are a bitch, but the rest of the stuff is manageable.

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols

ORIGINAL: obvert

Here is the section from tha manual:

7.4.2.3 KAMIKAZES
Kamikazes are activated if the Allies own a base within 15 hexes (traced by sea only) of either
Tokyo, Takao, or Saigon. However, these will never activate before January 1, 1944. Once
Kamikazes are activated, the Air Unit Information Screen for Japanese players will show
a Kamikaze option if no squadron has been converted to kamikaze yet this day and if the
aircraft squadron is of the appropriate type (essentially anything other than a Transport aircraft
squadron can become a Kamikaze squadron). The player is limited to one conversion per day,
but may not re-convert a Kamikaze unit to regular status. The computer will prompt the player
to confirm their choice before proceeding, giving you a chance to reconsider.

From the patch notes:

78. Gameplay Change: The kamikaze activation range has been changed from 15 to 20 hexes. The range was not changed when the game scale was changed

I made a decision to early activate by taking Toyohara. I got in good range of lots of strat targets, but I paid a lot in kami losses. I don't think I'd ever early activate in a Scen 2 PBEM game.

[Schlemiel]

Do Chinese owned bases count against this? Seems to me that the Chinese still owning Wenchow or something wouldn't be enough historically to trigger a kamikaze doctrine (unless the allies were close enough elsewhere to exploit it), but it's clearly within the range. Couldn't the Japanese just "hack" this by never attacking Wenchow, which starts owned by the Chinese? Seems to me that giving up that relatively little industry would be worth guaranteed early activation.

[jeffk3510]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

ORIGINAL: jeffk3510

Your virtual hug made my day. Now go get them! The Java area can be a godsend for your 4Es

Nice to have you back Jeff!

[:)]

I've been here the whole time. Just busier than a 15$ hooker. We're in fall harvest all over the Midwestern US my brother.

[Alfred]

ORIGINAL: Schlemiel

Do Chinese owned bases count against this? Seems to me that the Chinese still owning Wenchow or something wouldn't be enough historically to trigger a kamikaze doctrine (unless the allies were close enough elsewhere to exploit it), but it's clearly within the range. Couldn't the Japanese just "hack" this by never attacking Wenchow, which starts owned by the Chinese? Seems to me that giving up that relatively little industry would be worth guaranteed early activation.

No, Chinese bases don't count.

Alfred

[GreyJoy]

Back on track...

Dec 21, 22 1943

It's official. Rader is evacuating India. Multan has been suddenly abbandoned ([X(][X(][X(])... my Eastern Army, divided into two different army corps, is already marching to the town, precedeed by the 111th Chindit Bde that will be paradropped tomorrow. Base forces and eng are ready to be strat moved from Karachi.

Sincerly this is the strangest move i could ever think... Multan was fortress...protected on 3 sides by the river... i would have never been able to open a breach here...Why in the world Rader has abbandoned it...only God knows...[&:][&:][&:][&:]...So now the Indian theatre is open back again...let's see if i can do something good about it...

In Sopac Munda is taking so long to recover after my naval bombing...

In SWPAC, a trench war is starting between Buna and Salamua...Rader puts in line 2 armies, composed of 2 divisions (the 4th and the 5th...both without heavy equipment...still lingering on Tulagi beaches [:D]) and 4 Inf Rgts...against my 3 reinforced divisions and 6 tank units...but we got the air controll over the area. Our 4Es keep on pounding his troops every day and his AFs in the area remain really damaged and not operative...

our fleet is refueling at Ndeni, where it will soon start to load the invasio force for Choiseul Bay...

still no sign of his KB....while between Rabaul and Shortland 1300 planes are massed...[X(]

[GreyJoy]

Still thinking about Multan... now a whole new scenario is open... 500k japanese fighting troops are free to be moved anywhere... have to speed up my preparation for the new plans in SWPAC and northern Oz...it will surely take some time to Rader to evacuate all those troops...but he's able to do that...he has already prooved that!...but why is he abbandoning the Indian industry!? I cannot find a decent answer to that...

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

3. Allied strategic bombing did not feel "right." Even B-29s were able to accomplish very little. My failure to pilot train might be part of the equation, but I believe Bullwinkle found the same to be true in his game. Blying B-29s at fairly long range (say 15 hexes or more) against decent fighter opposition isn't going to bludgeon Japanese industry.

While the B-29's are not up to snuff the B-17G's are. As this game could certainly go until 1946 you get scads of really, really good 4EB's in late 45 and on. The B-17G's absolutely rock and anything within their range will just cease to exist when they arrive along with all those p-51's. GreyJoy, if you have some cycles between turns you might want to start an AI game with the Downfall scenario. You could start to hone your tactics with you new toys vs. Japan's new toys. Those jets with the 4x30mm cannons are a bitch, but the rest of the stuff is manageable.

I've set up some test scenarios...yes, shidens and those new KIs are really scary...they kill my bombers in droves... will be tough!

Anyway...cannot do anything at the moment about that...let's try to keep on pushing Rader while he ritires to his new inner perimeter

Thx mate!

[JeffroK]

Equally you have a substantial force that is able to be used somehwere, you might also be able to weild your ever increasing number of top line aircraft.

Dont get suckered, take it one step at a time and be careful of a counter punch.

[Itdepends]

Perhaps Radar is thinking- damn that Greyjoy he's beating me everywhere- I've got to get these forces out of India and doing something useful before New Guinea and the DEI get's rolled up by the Allies.

[Schlemiel]

I'll be curious to see where Rader draws his new defensive line in the theatre. I'd think giving up Multan means giving up Bombay and Madras almost by default, but will he pull all the way out of India at once?

[obvert]

He's just getting ready to meet you in the DEI. [:)]

[USSAmerica]

ORIGINAL: obvert

He's just getting ready to meet you in the DEI. [:)]

If that turns out to be the case, then GJ can just continue to push across India, through Burma, and into Malaya and Indochina. It's all good. [:)]

[GreyJoy]

Dec 23, 24 1943

It's confirmed. Rader has abbandoned Multan, moving his 430k troops to Lahore...[&:] The 111th Chindit has conquered Multan without firing a single shot...now forces for 4 Bdes are stra moving to Multan along with 240 Aviation support. Already 60 fighters are based there...while the Eastern Armym, strong of 11k AVs is moving to the city.

Why Rader has done that remains a mistery to me...he has moved to Lahore and placed several fighters concentrations at Bombay, Dehli and south of it...a planned retreat? But why? he could easily leave there a blocking force of 300k men and use the 150k he had to spare for other theatres...why lose northern India?! Now my forces can get out of the Multan bottleneck and my tanks can threaten his positions...

Very very strange...

For the rest nothing happened... i have 4 CVs upgrading, while the rest remains online at Ndeni, waiting for their upgrade turn...

We're slowly sending reinforcements to Munda, getting ready for the next operation.

Tomorrow we'll bomb Thousands Ship bay and Nazareb (NG).

Today we plastered Lae again...10 zeros and 3 rexes come out and played...and they all got shot down by 50 P-47s on sweep mission....no losses on my side[8D].

Another Bde is reported to being sent to Lae...reinforcing his positions at Salamua...

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: obvert

He's just getting ready to meet you in the DEI. [:)]

[Canoerebel]

Rader is a victim of the yips.  His imagination beat him.
 
Once a retreat starts in India, it doesn't stop until Calcutta.  Your job is to push and shove and hit as hard as possible. 

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Rader is a victim of the yips.  His imagination beat him.

Once a retreat starts in India, it doesn't stop until Calcutta.  Your job is to push and shove and hit as hard as possible. 

I'll do my best...i just hope it's not a trap...

I'll keep a decent force at my back in any case...

[Xargun]

He retreated from Multan before you could cut off the rail and trap his men there. It would be easy to hold his men there with the river as a shield and simply bypass and bomb Multan into nothingness. if you had taken Multan then his men would face the long slow march to a friendly base while you bombed him into rubble with your LBA. Now he is behind more forts and can bomb your units as you march forward again.

When you march on Lahore I would march South of the river and simply cut off Lahore and Amritsar - it may cause another rail retreat to avoid getting cut off.

Xargun