From what I remember reading about that disaster the chief culprit was the commanding officer didn't trust the "newfangled" nav beacon technology, prefering to trust his dead-reckoning navigation skills. In famously trecherous waters. At high speed. At night.
This is a real-life version of the "battleship v. lighthouse" joke.
How many PH battleships would you guys trade for those 7 4-stackers?
I think what was even more commendable was that the commander of DESRON 11, Commodore Edward Watson, when court-martialled testified under oath that the incident was his fault, stating that in his opinion he was wholly responsible for the disaster, and that none of his subordinates should be blamed.
In the finest traditions of the Navy, the man at the top took responsibility.
However, each captain of each destroyer was still blamed for the incident in keeping with the tradition that a captain's first responsibility is to his ship, not his formation.
From what I remember reading about that disaster the chief culprit was the commanding officer didn't trust the "newfangled" nav beacon technology, prefering to trust his dead-reckoning navigation skills. In famously trecherous waters. At high speed. At night.
This is a real-life version of the "battleship v. lighthouse" joke.
How many PH battleships would you guys trade for those 7 4-stackers?
Can you imagine the first reaction from the Secretary of the Navy?
"You say WHAT??? Seven of my brand-new Clemson-class four-stackers???"
From what I remember reading about that disaster the chief culprit was the commanding officer didn't trust the "newfangled" nav beacon technology, prefering to trust his dead-reckoning navigation skills. In famously trecherous waters. At high speed. At night.
This is a real-life version of the "battleship v. lighthouse" joke.
How many PH battleships would you guys trade for those 7 4-stackers?
Can you imagine the first reaction from the Secretary of the Navy?
"You say WHAT??? Seven of my brand-new Clemson-class four-stackers???"
With a name like Clemson, what else would you expect? [:)]
April 2, 1945. The USS Henrico, supporting the invasion of Okinawa, is struck by a Francis operating as a Kamikaze, killing 51. Among the wounded was the father of this poster.
I regret to point the forum to SqzMyLemon's latest thread. The poor confused lad grumbles about a feature added via the latest beta patch...only to discover the feature has been this way for about nine years, going back at least to the early days of WitP and perhaps all the way back to UV. Henceforth, reporting something new that has long been a feature of the game shall be known as a "SqzMyLemon violation."
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
Speaking of Clemson, you guys are aware that the college's mascot is the tiger? And that the school is located in upper South Carolina?
Well, back in the 1980s, Clemson somehow had a team good enough to play in the Orange Bowl. The booster club decided to paint tiger paws on I-95 all the way to Miami.
You know how far they got before they ran out of paint?
Richmond.
[:'(]
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
Speaking of Clemson, you guys are aware that the college's mascot is the tiger? And that the school is located in upper South Carolina?
Well, back in the 1980s, Clemson somehow had a team good enough to play in the Orange Bowl. The booster club decided to paint tiger paws on I-95 all the way to Miami.
You know how far they got before they ran out of paint?
Speaking of Clemson, you guys are aware that the college's mascot is the tiger? And that the school is located in upper South Carolina?
Well, back in the 1980s, Clemson somehow had a team good enough to play in the Orange Bowl. The booster club decided to paint tiger paws on I-95 all the way to Miami.
You know how far they got before they ran out of paint?
Richmond.
[:'(]
Now, being South African and lacking knowledge of American geography and highways, I am going to assume that Richmond is in the opposite direction from Clemson than Miami is?
Speaking of Clemson, you guys are aware that the college's mascot is the tiger? And that the school is located in upper South Carolina?
Well, back in the 1980s, Clemson somehow had a team good enough to play in the Orange Bowl. The booster club decided to paint tiger paws on I-95 all the way to Miami.
You know how far they got before they ran out of paint?
Richmond.
[:'(]
Now, being South African and lacking knowledge of American geography and highways, I am going to assume that Richmond is in the opposite direction from Clemson than Miami is?
Speaking of Clemson, you guys are aware that the college's mascot is the tiger? And that the school is located in upper South Carolina?
Well, back in the 1980s, Clemson somehow had a team good enough to play in the Orange Bowl. The booster club decided to paint tiger paws on I-95 all the way to Miami.
You know how far they got before they ran out of paint?
Richmond.
[:'(]
When my great grandfather graduated from Clemson it an all male, military style, agricultural college.
I feel the need to confess to someone, and since my wife does not care, and my cats care even less, I choose all of you.
The date is early August 1942 and the enemy is a lobotomized Japan (commanded by the AI). Therefore, the Dutch East Indies are not only largely in Allied hands, they are the center of Allied naval and aerial might in the western half of the map, and the graveyard for half a dozen Japanese CVs, half a dozen BBs and a dozen or so CAs (that's just the confirmed sinkings). Having decided the efforts of a certain Hurricane IIc squadron are best spent in that very area, I load this squadron, and its 18 elite pilots, aces all and tempered by eight months of non-stop air combat, onto an xAK. Escorts are not immediately available, but Japanese sub activity has been pretty much limited to lurking around Colombo, Melbourne and Pearl Harbor, the air threat is easily negated by staying away from the mainland, and surface raiders are nowhere to be found. Waypoints ensure this lone xAK takes the road less traveled, further reducing the risk.
Turns pass, and I forget to check on the transport. And when one day the sub attack screen appears, showing an SSX, of all things, attacking a single xAK dead in the middle of the Indian Ocean, I can't quite place the unpleasant tingle that slithers down my back, not even when two well-placed torpedo hits send the poor vessel plummeting to the ocean floor.
The ice doesn't flood my veins until I check the Air Losses for the turn... And see 17 beautiful, rugged Hurricanes listed as Destroyed - Ground. The report fails to mention the tragic and horribly vexing loss of eighteen combat veterans, at a time when the average Allied pilot graduate ranks in flying skill somewhere between a flying squirrel and a large rock.
So now I have a rule. No unescorted ships carrying troops or aircraft. Ever.
Calm down, dear boy! We're writers, not Vikings...
Speaking of Clemson, you guys are aware that the college's mascot is the tiger? And that the school is located in upper South Carolina?
Well, back in the 1980s, Clemson somehow had a team good enough to play in the Orange Bowl. The booster club decided to paint tiger paws on I-95 all the way to Miami.
You know how far they got before they ran out of paint?
Richmond.
[:'(]
Being an honorable graduate of the University of Georgia, I feel the need to come clean on this: that Clemson (pronounced Klempsen) team that was "somehow good enough to play in the Orange Bowl" had defeated our Herschel Walker led defending national champions on the way to winning their own national title by defeating Nebraska in that bowl game. [:@]
Serious MTSNBN infraction by Graffin Zeppelin aka Rhonda in the Tora! Tora! Tora! thread on the main AE page. Suggest shunning until she repents.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
