Germans winning 1943?!!

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'43 with Davewolf

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Originally posted by K62
Stef, How's your game with Dave going? I'm also in a '43 right now, but as Russian, it's more fun this way;)
It's exhausting. I've had to take a break over the holidays.

Because it's my first e-mail game ever, it takes me a lot longer to figure out how to proceed, and I'm still learning many things that I had no knowledge of before we started. Each turn I learn more and more about the game, and I appreciate Dave's patience. Every time I send off a turn, he turns it right around, and I don't even get a chance to play my other classic favorite (against the AI so far), which is PACWAR.

It's somethiing like running away and having a BIG DOG (hehe) nipping at your heals, and occasionally taking a chunk out of your butt!

We have reached the end of March '44. It has started to rain. THANK GOD! He beat me up pretty badly over the Winter.

He took Sevastapol a couple of turns ago.

In the far South (everyone speaks with a Southern accent down there, {American Joke}) he has pushed five or six hexes across the Dnieper.

I hold Kiev.

In the Center, I hold Minsk, which he has pushed right up to, albeit in poor supply, but that will change.

In the North, he has actually made the least progress, now that I think about it, the stuff in the Center and South is probably just his dumb luck!!

I hold a line around three or four hexes East of Pskov, and I am only two hexes West of Leningrad. My Finns are just North of the
Leningrad minor city.

The next time I play, I will certainly be more aggressive, but I am playing this scenario in a more defensive posture (which Dave doesn't respect very much), but I wanted to see what the Axis went through in their long retreat. I regret that now, but it's too late. I assure you that Dave is really enjoying himself at this point as he must by now have a powerful force.

I don't think a lot of players really regard the '43 and '44, which I find fascinating. After a while, just surviving as the Axis is a victory in itself. (We New Yorkers are experts at that). Any player is not going to enjoy having their oil, resources, heavy industry, and manpower dwindle, as cities are lost, and as the Allies progessively pound the daylights out of Axis industry with more and more intensity.

Most players are obsessed with the '41 game I believe.

I wonder what proportion of games are going on in all the different scenarios.

It's kinda difficult to be more candid with you because I know that darn Wolf is lurking in the woods, and because eventually you are going to play me in '43 as the Russians!

By the way, you give Upstate NY as your location.

Are you in the 10th Mountain? ("Black Hawk Down", with the Rangers and Delta Force of course)

I was very surprised to find that they are in and train in the Adirondack Mountains in upstate NY!

:)
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Re: Interest

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Originally posted by Stefdragon


About the quote....Are you sure about that?

I ran some dummy tests on that fighter parameter because I noticed that you can set fighters, not just fighter/bombers to Interdict, and that the fighters carry a "load", which I found odd. It didn't seem to matter very much, if at all. Does it matter whether the fighters are set to Interdict, or will they still do that set to Escort?



Glad to help:)

I mean using the fighters in escort mode. The load value against infantry and the cannons value (useful!!!) against tank is added to the strenght of the attack.
Also you can use the fighter-bombers twice, using them as escorts and after in an interdict mission. But remember if used as interdict no will fly as interceptor in the german combat phase and in the entire next russian soviet turn. Fighters can not interdict alone.

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Re: THE CONTAGION SPREADS

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Thank you very much Josan for your reply! I'd say it opens up a whole new perspective for those of us who never thought the Germans could win the 1943 scenario.

There are, I must say, some radical ideas in your post. The Germans winning the attrition war is something I should have thought about. In my best '43 game so far I got a draw by holding the Dnepr line all through the winter. And then my opponent complained it's unfair that he had run out of squads and offered a draw, which I was happy to accept since I didn't think the Germans could actually win. So attrition can go the Axis way!

There are a couple of things, though, that I must see in order to believe. Leningrad falling for sure before the winter and the 3 PzKorps around Poltava making Soviet Armies surrender are too hard to imagine. Perhaps you could put me on your waiting list (I'm sure it's a long one already) and show them to me in a game so I could see them personally and tell the world about it ;)

Again, thanks for the useful stuff - I was beginning to think this thread would never see any serious posts anymore:rolleyes:
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Stef,

Don't worry, I don't feel offended. I live in Dutchess County, up the Hudson. Sorry to disappoint you but I never saw the movie you're talking about and only go rarely to the Adirondak since the Catskills are just across the river. I know they're very beautiful, but I'm also very lazy ;)

Your game with Dave is not going badly, you can look at the campaign '44 starting situation and see you're actually doing better than the historical case. How's the Luftwaffe? If you manage to keep air superiority he can't advance very quickly.

You were saying that old fox, sorry I mean wolf ;) , is hot on your heels? You should ask him how he's doing against Josan, that ought to cool him down :D
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Originally posted by K62
Perhaps you could put me on your waiting list (I'm sure it's a long one already) and show them to me in a game so I could see them personally and tell the world about it ;)


We can start now if you want. I have 5 WiR running now so I need at least 2/3 days per turn. Sorry.

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Originally posted by Josan
We can start now if you want.


That sounds great! It's an honour to play against such a good opponent. Please send your first turn to andyfurtuna@hotmail.com . I hope you won't mind if I'll be opening a new thread to describe how the game will be going.
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Originally posted by K62
That sounds great! It's an honour to play against such a good opponent. Please send your first turn to andyfurtuna@hotmail.com . I hope you won't mind if I'll be opening a new thread to describe how the game will be going.


Happy to play too !!!!!. No problem with thread. Standard or Possum 41 campaign? or 43 campaign?:p Standard house rules.

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'43, of course!;) You play German, Lorenzo house rules, Finnish rule included, OK? Waiting for your turn.:)
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