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RE: AIR SLAUGHTER

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ORIGINAL: jmalter

all hail the arrival of GJ's 1st B-29 sqn!

these guys will give you death-star ability, but they must be carefully cossetted. start by keeping them in training, & transfer your best bomber pilots into it.

they are devastating as night-raids against airfields at 7000', since iirc you're HR-restricted to moon/2, keep them quiet 'til you can run a group of 35-40.
but they've got awful serviceability, once they go on continuous ops they should be limited to 50% attack, except for night-raid time.

Yes, they are being transfered now to Aden....and they will get some better crews asap. However, considering our HR about night attack, i wonder if it's ever worth the time spent to organize a night raid...normally bad weather kicks in during the 100%moonlight nights and screws up everything...

will get a turn probably late tonight...so untill tomorrow no updates...hope to get back on our normal pace asap
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RE: AIR SLAUGHTER

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Good luck with the new offensive and on not taking conventional, ineffectual advice. I am quite looking forward to the reaction hereabouts when people realise that you are one of the few people hereabouts who plays the meta-game.

My only advice to you would be to ensure you maintain your concentration of forces and focus on your objectives and don't, in the flush of initial success, try to expand your objectives on the fly. The objectives you've picked are achievable and will change the strategic dynamic entirely. Commit to them 100% and maintain your force concentrations.

Strategically I think you are now at the point where you should ignore advice on this thread ( tactically and operationally you still have much to learn so should continue listening ), especially the inevitable discussion/advice on expanding or limiting objectives once the initial landings have occured. Ignore that advice/discussion and stick to your plan.


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Rabaul destroyed. Chiuseul conquered!

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A very good turn!

Mar 20, 21 1944

Our small combat TFs combed Choiseul, in order to help with the final attack

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Night Naval bombardment of Choiseul Bay at 111,132

Allied Ships
CL Richmond
DD Jarvis
DD Helm
DD Blue
DD Walke

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 2


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Night Naval bombardment of Choiseul Bay at 111,132

Allied Ships
CA Chester
CL Detroit
DD Arunta
DD Voyager
DD Wilson
DD Lang
DD Craven
DD Hammann
DD Meredith



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 20
Port hits 7
Port supply hits 1




Then the biggest allied air offensive mission of the war so far took place.

As always things didn't go as planned, and my sweeps went in without coordination and the 4Es got divided into several different fragments...who got slaughtered...but those who got thorugh...oh Lord!!!


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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 42,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 15
A6M3a Zero x 15
A6M5 Zero x 54
J2M3 Jack x 81
N1K1 Rex x 12
N1K1-J George x 38
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 25
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9
Ki-84a Frank x 53
Ki-100-I Tony x 94



Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 16


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1 Rex: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 5 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 15
A6M3a Zero x 14
A6M5 Zero x 52
J2M3 Jack x 76
N1K1 Rex x 10
N1K1-J George x 37
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 22
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9
Ki-84a Frank x 50
Ki-100-I Tony x 87



Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 18


Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1 Rex: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 5 destroyed




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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 13
A6M3a Zero x 11
A6M5 Zero x 43
J2M3 Jack x 62
N1K1 Rex x 6
N1K1-J George x 30
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 17
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7
Ki-84a Frank x 41
Ki-100-I Tony x 71



Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 20


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 5
A6M3a Zero x 10
A6M5 Zero x 28
J2M3 Jack x 53
N1K1 Rex x 5
N1K1-J George x 22
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 14
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7
Ki-84a Frank x 31
Ki-100-I Tony x 49



Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Ic x 19
Beaufighter X x 24
B-24D1 Liberator x 55
B-24J Liberator x 73


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 3 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 8 destroyed on ground
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
A6M5 Zero: 28 damaged
A6M5 Zero: 22 destroyed on ground
J2M3 Jack: 37 damaged
J2M3 Jack: 13 destroyed on ground
N1K1 Rex: 5 damaged
N1K1 Rex: 2 destroyed on ground
N1K1-J George: 22 damaged
N1K1-J George: 28 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 damaged
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 9 destroyed on ground
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 7 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-84a Frank: 28 damaged
Ki-84a Frank: 28 destroyed on ground
Ki-100-I Tony: 21 damaged
Ki-100-I Tony: 15 destroyed on ground
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 5 destroyed on ground
G4M1 Betty: 13 destroyed on ground
P1Y1 Frances: 5 destroyed on ground
G3M2 Nell: 7 destroyed on ground
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 9 destroyed on ground
B5N2 Kate: 10 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Ic: 7 destroyed
Beaufighter X: 8 destroyed
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled



Airbase hits 43
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 114



Then several single squadron 4Es arrived unescorted...obviously we lost several 4Es in this stupid process.....

Our main sweep from Milne Bay arrived after the 4Es...[:o]


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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 2
A6M5 Zero x 9
J2M3 Jack x 13
N1K1 Rex x 1
N1K1-J George x 7
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 10
Ki-100-I Tony x 22



Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 75


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 3 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed




More battles occurred...and during the 21st bad weather prevented us to finish the job...[:o][:@]....but the results were incredible! 1000 planes destroyed on the ground and Rabaul closed for good!



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Ground combat at Choiseul Bay (111,132)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 9146 troops, 216 guns, 189 vehicles, Assault Value = 422

Defending force 6010 troops, 29 guns, 102 vehicles, Assault Value = 96

Allied adjusted assault: 662

Japanese adjusted defense: 43

Allied assault odds: 15 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Choiseul Bay !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1411 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 45 disabled
Non Combat: 78 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 51 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 11 (9 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 55 (55 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2


Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled


Assaulting units:
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
24th Infantry Division
1/151st Combat Engineer Battalion
I US Corps
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
1881th Engineer Aviation Battalion

Defending units:
2nd Amphibious Bde /1
46th JNAF AF Unit /1
3rd Mobile Engr Rgt /1
3rd South Seas Det. /1
15th Naval Const Bn /2
16th JAAF Base Force
69th JAAF AF Coy
5th Naval Const Bn /1
18th JAAF Base Force /1
76th JAAF AF Bn /1
1st Raiding Rgt /1
15th AA Regiment
10th JNAF AF Unit /1
207th JAAF AF Bn /1
24th JAAF AF Bn
53rd JNAF AF Unit /1


Choiseul fell....and now Shortland is in danger!

HURRAH!!!

However among those 118 planes lost in the air, there were 8 aces and several more very experienced pilots... and expensive battle...

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RE: Rabaul destroyed. Chiuseul conquered!

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Nicely done, GreyJoy!  

That, my friends, is what happens if you severely overstack an airfield in range of a couple hundred 4EB's.  [8D]
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[&o]

I fear 4Es. Yikes. Then again, woe to the player that puts over 1000 planes in any base.
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RE: Rabaul destroyed. Chiuseul conquered!

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ORIGINAL: USS America

Nicely done, GreyJoy!  

That, my friends, is what happens if you severely overstack an airfield in range of a couple hundred 4EB's.  [8D]


...and the best is yet to come my friend....

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RE: Rabaul destroyed. Chiuseul conquered!

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I can't understand the over stacking. It is just begging for massive losses. I never do it. Naval bombardments are brutal on an over stacked base as well. Just say no... to over stacking. [:-]
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RE: Rabaul destroyed. Chiuseul conquered!

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

I can't understand the over stacking. It is just begging for massive losses. I never do it. Naval bombardments are brutal on an over stacked base as well. Just say no... to over stacking. [:-]

And he has 350 more fighters on the 3 bouganville bases and more 500 fighters and bombers on the bases around Rabaul (Green Is and such...)...and part of those zeros in the air were from some CVs that are stationing one hex northeast of Rabaul...quite a massive air force!

Think he was almost ready to start an offensive from Rabaul...probably against PM....that's the only reason i can justify the overstacking...(however Rabaul is AF 9)...but it's been like that for over a month now...he was really calling for it...
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RE: Rabaul destroyed. Chiuseul conquered!

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The detail of what we got at Rabaul...

note that the Jack has come in line already in good numbers...and it prooved a serious threat in the air

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In India we're fighting for Calcutta. One more turn and the sieged jap garrison will open the gates of the city to the 7th Aus Division supported by several tank units...

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here's a screenshot of the invasion force

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Hahhahahahahahahhahahahah!!!!!

The SRA invasion was a fake?

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RE: Rabaul destroyed. Chiuseul conquered!

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There seems to be some gap in the narrative here..... One second its rabaul then we are in the middle of a majore different theatre and half way through an invasion?

Puzzlement.

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Congratulations! You successfully pulled off a maskirovka operation against the entire forum! [:D]
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As it was said. Greyjoy can play the meta-game.
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RE: AIR SLAUGHTER

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ORIGINAL: Nemo121
Good luck with the new offensive and on not taking conventional, ineffectual advice. I am quite looking forward to the reaction hereabouts when people realise that you are one of the few people hereabouts who plays the meta-game.

My only advice to you would be to ensure you maintain your concentration of forces and focus on your objectives and don't, in the flush of initial success, try to expand your objectives on the fly. The objectives you've picked are achievable and will change the strategic dynamic entirely. Commit to them 100% and maintain your force concentrations.

This post suddenly makes sense now.
To be honest, I did not consider Greyjoy to be "one of the few people hereabouts who plays the meta-game"...but after seeing the above screenshot I have to say that I agree completely.
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RE: AIR SLAUGHTER

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RE the recent post around the destruction of Rabaul- if it was a level 9 airfield it couldn't have been overstacked (according to the manual). Of course there's not many places to hide that many planes when a large 4E force comes a calling.

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RE: AIR SLAUGHTER

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Hi all,
 
   details will be unfold completely tonight.
 
For the moment the only thing i can tell you is that the above operation is called "Suddenly Hairy" and that will be the most risky thing i've ever tried in this game. It's completely based on full surprise and timing.
 
More to follow.... sorry for having kept the details secret till now...
 
Mar 22, 23 1944
 
While the air struggle continue in SOPAC (with the japs evcuating Rabaul AF) and while the I US Corp clears what remains of the enemy at Choiseul, while Calcutta is conquered by the 7th AUS Division, on the 23rd of March an unknown number of american carriers launched a series of air strikes against japanese shippings near Onnekotan Jiima, sinking 3 SCs and 4 xAKs.
More bombers took off and arrived over Uruppu Jiima, attacking the troops stationed there.
The american Carriers were completely undetected and japanese forces seem to have been caught unaware.
During the afternoon of 23rd elements of the 37th US Division, along with NZ and US tanks were unloaded unmolested at Uruppu.
The invasion has begun.
 
 
 
 
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Did the landing at Uruppo trigger an auto counter-bombardment by the defenses?  If so, what's there?
 
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