What were they thinking?

[LargeSlowTarget]

The USN had the USS Manlove (DE-36).

The IJN had the DD Asagao, which translates to "Morning Glory".

And the RN had this ship [came across when researching gun boats]

[Yaab]

Yeah, what were they drinking?

[Gunner98]

Yes and I'm sure the whole 'Insect-class' of boats sent shivers through everyones spine [:D]

[Nikademus]

without resorting to Google, IIRC an old WWI naval tomb...the Insects were designed for specialized riverine warfare in the Middle east. RN efforts there were pretty essential to the Entente victory in Persia. (aka Iran/Iraq area)

[wdolson]

I haven't seen that particular HMS vessel in the OOB.  It should show up sometime in 1945.

Looking over a combat report I noticed Allied planes attacking the Sinko Maru.  Doing a quick search, I think the English spelling is more often Shinko Maru.  It was worth a laugh though.

Bill

[jeffk3510]

That is the funniest thing I have heard all day.

[Redsunrizing]

These river/coastal gunboats were considered an important part of the Empires policing strategy, and most of the time were the only thing stopping a local revolt. You have to remember that between the wars, the British Army was pretty thin on the ground. The RAF was used to show the flag in the vast inland regions, and these type of gunboats did the same in coastal and riverine regions.

[Mike Solli]

The Commander in Chief, US Fleet acronym used to be CINCUS, pronounced Sink Us. It was changed in December, 1941. Hmmm.....

[USS Henrico]

So did this Insect class include HMS Stink Bug?

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

The Commander in Chief, US Fleet acronym used to be CINCUS, pronounced Sink Us. It was changed in December, 1941. Hmmm.....

We got over it in 1960. CINCUSNAVEUR ever since.

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget

The USN had the USS Manlove (DE-36).

I presume you looked up the source of this name? I would have been proud to have served in her.

She sunk an I-boat to boot.

[Sredni]

Just language drift I assume for stuff like HMS Cockchafer heh. Like how the words gay or fag mean totally different things then they did 50 years ago.

[jeffk3510]

I guess if I were around in Cockshafer's day, it would mean to me then what it does now.

Hahaha!

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: Sredni

Just language drift I assume for stuff like HMS Cockchafer heh. Like how the words gay or fag mean totally different things then they did 50 years ago.

Manlove was an electrician killed in the USS Arizona on 12/7/1941.

[Sredni]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58


Manlove was an electrician killed in the USS Arizona on 12/7/1941.

Yes, I looked that up after your post as well. Would they still name a ship after someone named Manlove these days given what it means to us now? I dunno. I'd guess again that something like Manlove (like cockchafer) just didn't have the same meaning back then as it would today.

[Gunner98]

I think we're a lot more sensitive to names today - ACRONYMS are the killer though. Can't think of one at the moment but I know the Cdn Army Comd has a Maj review all ACRONYMS to make sure that they are not offensive in either French or English. I remember several years ago sitting around a table with about 10 guys for a couple hours working out the name for a new course: A good English name would translate to the ACRONYM COCK or something in French, a good French name would equal GAG or something in English. A nightmare. [:D]
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[LargeSlowTarget]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget

The USN had the USS Manlove (DE-36).

I presume you looked up the source of this name? I would have been proud to have served in her.

She sunk an I-boat to boot.

Of course I did. Got 5 battle stars. No denigration of DE-36 or Arthur Cleon Manlove intended.


The insect cockchafer is also known as may bug or spang beetle or the Billy witch.

The insect class gunboats (but not the HMS Cockchafer) were included in WitP-CHS - wondering why they did not made it into DBB. HMS Cockchafer was assigned to the Eastern Fleet and operated in the Persian Gulf in 1941. She was sent to the Med in 1943 and returned to the Pacific in 1945. In my mod, she starts the war at Abadan (I also included the other Insects Cicala, Moth, Aphis, Scarab plus the other PGs the RN and USN were operating in Asia). Not an important adition to the game, but more stuff to play around, some eye candy, and sort of memorial for those less glamourous and thus almost forgotten "small boys".

[Cavalry Corp]

Glorious days of our Empire when maps were Pink and before the world went mad and no longer appreciated us...

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget

The USN had the USS Manlove (DE-36).

I presume you looked up the source of this name? I would have been proud to have served in her.

She sunk an I-boat to boot.

Of course I did. Got 5 battle stars. No denigration of DE-36 or Arthur Cleon Manlove intended.

It was difficult for me to square this statement with the title of the thread.

If you meant no offense or denegration I accept your word for that.

FWIW there are 3.5 screens of listings for "Manlove" in Minnesota white pages.

[jeffk3510]

Not really military, but the local private KCAC school in Wichita, Kansas.... it is now Friends University. It used to be Friends University of Central Kansas... and yes, the acronym was what you think it was.