USSR war entry very early !

[Razz1]

What did you choose for Ribbentrop Molotov Pact?

I think this is everyone's problem.

[Numdydar]

I accepted it. and Russia moved into Eastern Poland as expected. I put around 50 strengh points on the border which I added to as time went on. Russia went to war with Findland (October/Nov?) and all was good until Spring of '40.

[waichou]

Exactly the same for me. I only declared war to Poland, Benelux, Denmark and Norway (nothing done in Balkan or anywhere - no alliance with Finland which is neutral and AI controlled). If it is sufficient for Russia to declare war in spring 1940, I really don't understand. By the way, how is it possible to Finland to control Leningrad and 3 others cities including Novgorod, and seems to continue their advance to Moscow. I think there is a real problem with Russia, I don't see the interest of declaring war if they don't have a minimum strengh (I have no resistance from Russia in my front)...

[Flaviusx]

ORIGINAL: Razz

Finland or Romania will only cause a war with Russia if you are aligned with them.

It's not really working this way. I had a Soviet DoW in Sept. of 1940 despite leaving both Finland and Romania alone. I had pressured Hungary into joining the Axis, but I haven't touched these other two countries.

Near as I can tell Romania is autojoining the Axis when pressured by the Sovs, regardless of what the Germans do.

Mind you, the Red Army is a wreck with all the hits it gets in the first ten turns it is at war with Germany, so it's not going to go anywhere. But Germany has no control over this diplomatic outcome.

When playing the Soviets, strangely enough, this doesn't happen. As the Soviets I got a warning that Romania was resisting my demands for Bessarabia. I therefore declined to take it further. Then, mysteriously, they go ahead and give up Bessarabia anyways. This leads to the historical outcome with no premature war.

There's something decidedly odd with the scripting of this event. (From both the Soviet and the German perspective.) You should probably double check it.

[Rasputitsa]

ORIGINAL: Numdydar
I accepted it. and Russia moved into Eastern Poland as expected. I put around 50 strengh points on the border which I added to as time went on. Russia went to war with Findland (October/Nov?) and all was good until Spring of '40.

After reading this thread and restarted 'Fall Gelb' (as Axis v AI), I ran into the Romania situation on turn 3 (It had not happened in the previous game), sat quiet, no provocation. Turn 4 and Soviet forces have crossed the demarcation line into Western Poland and bombing my units. Ouch !

Most the German forces are now deeply committed to the breakthrough in France, Italy has just entered the war (this didn't happen in the last game). Has the makings of a great game, historical, or not, but I wouldn't want it to happen every game. There's only so much excitement you can take, this early in a game.[:)]