The Power of Inexperience / GreyJoy(A)-Rader(J)

[jeffk3510]

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: crsutton

I think GJ should have a contest to name the next operation. Open it up to the floor. My suggestion.

Operation "Bush Whacker....[:D] Now gents (and lady), get your minds out of the gutter. This is what I am referring to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushwhacker

Speaking of the gutter........did you know that a bird in the bush is worth two in the hand.....BUT,.........a hand in the bush is worth two anywhere! [;)]

It is actually a bird in the hand is worth more than two in the bush... but I follow you [:)]

[Cribtop]

Ahhh, what hath GJ's penchants wrought? [:D]

Have you considered a full on 2E and bombardment campaign against the obvious northern Honshu bases as a ploy to suck the enemy air force and possibly surface navy into a favorable attrition battle? Could serve as a prelude to the actual invasion, wherever said invasion is targeted (and whatever vile practice for which it is named [:D]).

[paullus99]

When GJ commits to an invasion of Honshu, he's going to impale Rader on the "horns of a dilemma." Rader can either use his fighters to escort his bombers against the invasion fleet & ground forces, or he can protect his remaining industries & airbases, but I doubt he will have enough fighters to do both.

I believe this plays very well into GJ's hands - the sooner he can get ground troops on Honshu, the sooner he'll force Rader to start dividing his attention, therefore lessening the total number of aircraft he can use at any one location.

[Cribtop]

Will Tokyo itself fall? This is going to be wild. Imagine the Iwo flag raising photo occurring above the Imperial Palace. Wow.

[GreyJoy]

July 2, 3 1944

Calm down my young Jedis[:D]...it's still a long long way to victory and we haven't experienced yet the terrible power of japanese last air and naval defences...

Another good run against Maebashi today. Our sweeps, again, arrived too late, but our bombers were very well escorted and, despite the stiff resistance, we managed to contain the losses and to destroy 100 a/c factories.
71 SAMs are gone, along with 20 KI-83 and some Georges...not bad.

We lost a total of 76 fighter/Bombers today...still too much considering i'm not producing the P-47s anymore[:(]...

However we're already moving back our troops that conquered Paramushiro and Onnekotan, being replaced by CD Marine units, Base forces and engineers. Soon patrol planes will be based there too.

Our CVs are still looking for the KB in the southern seas, while a CV TF which is trying to reach PH is fighting hard against his subs that are sorrounding it...damned!

Rader is really a master with the sub warfare!




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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 118
A6M5c Zero x 45
A7M2 Sam x 38
J2M3 Jack x 60
N1K1-J George x 247
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 150
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 16
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 29
Ki-84a Frank x 167
Ki-100-I Tony x 29
Ki-102b Randy x 35



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 176
B-29-1 Superfort x 130
P-38J Lightning x 17
P-51B Mustang x 43
F4U-1 Corsair x 32
F4U-1A Corsair x 45
F6F-3 Hellcat x 17


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 2 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 3 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 5 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed



A7M2 Sam factory hits 40
Ki-83 factory hits 3
N1K1-J George factory hits 4
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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 40,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 82
A6M5c Zero x 31
A7M2 Sam x 24
J2M3 Jack x 53
N1K1-J George x 190
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 7
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 135
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 13
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 21
Ki-84a Frank x 125
Ki-100-I Tony x 18
Ki-102b Randy x 23



Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 12
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 84
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 238
F4U-1A Corsair x 7


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 2 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 6 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 5 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 10 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 126
A6M5c Zero x 39
A7M2 Sam x 40
J2M3 Jack x 50
N1K1-J George x 236
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 10
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 135
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 20
Ki-84a Frank x 125
Ki-100-I Tony x 25
Ki-102b Randy x 26



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 134
B-29-1 Superfort x 112
P-38J Lightning x 12
P-51B Mustang x 39
F4U-1 Corsair x 22
F4U-1A Corsair x 39
F6F-3 Hellcat x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-51B Mustang: 1 destroyed



A7M2 Sam factory hits 10
N1K1-J George factory hits 1


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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 39,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 87
A6M5c Zero x 29
A7M2 Sam x 25
J2M3 Jack x 44
N1K1-J George x 188
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 4
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 128
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 14
Ki-84a Frank x 94
Ki-100-I Tony x 19
Ki-102b Randy x 21



Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 83
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 231
F4U-1 Corsair x 6


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 3 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 7 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 9 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed


Total air losses is 76 vs 156 in our favor. We're getting a steady 1-2 which isn't a bad ratio considering we're attacking....

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: paullus99

When GJ commits to an invasion of Honshu, he's going to impale Rader on the "horns of a dilemma." Rader can either use his fighters to escort his bombers against the invasion fleet & ground forces, or he can protect his remaining industries & airbases, but I doubt he will have enough fighters to do both.

I believe this plays very well into GJ's hands - the sooner he can get ground troops on Honshu, the sooner he'll force Rader to start dividing his attention, therefore lessening the total number of aircraft he can use at any one location.

Yup, i agree...but i have to do things properly...and, as Jmalter just said, i need to lots of support ships and 100% prep everywhere....i need some more time but we're getting there!

Tomorrow, as Cribtop suggested, now that my 2Es' role of supporting the invasion of Para and Onnekotan is over, they will start to pound the enemy bases in northern Hokkaido....Rader will try to ambush me...pretty sure of that...but the more i keep him distracted from the defence of central Japan, the better!

About the new operation....
I wanted to call it Op.Hypertricosis...but i guess the name isn't that charming....

Possible names are

Natural Bush
Desperately Hairy
or Floss[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

The scheldue remains the same for the moment. End of August.
By that time we must destroy the frank and Sam production and keep on getting hits on george one

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

In honor of the successful completion of Suddenly Hairy, the most amazing AE operation I've seen, I want to tell GJ a simple but true story. Given his tastes in certain things, I thought it might just please him in a small way.

Back in my college days at the School of Forest Resources, University of Georgia, I was taking a dendrology class. Dendrology is the study and identification of trees. It was a tough class, especially for a city boy like me. When we started, I didn't know the difference between a dogwood and a sweetgum. I was truly ignorant of these things.

One day, we were given two new species - the red mulberry (Morus rubra) and the white mulberry (Morus alba). It was very difficult to distinguish the two species, as both had similar leaves, bark and overall appearance. The main distinguishing charracteristic is that the leaf of the red mulberry is tomentose while that of the white mulberry is glaucus. That is, the underside of the leaf of the red seems to be covered in small, soft hairs, while that of the white is smooth and shiny.

One of my fellow students - a gentleman from Pelham, Georgia, forever known to us as "Cool Breeze" - came up with a small saying to help us to remember these distinguishing characteristics. He told us: "Hairy red cooter; shaved white pu$$sy."

Perhaps that might give GreyJoy some little pleasure, and inspirations for new operation names.

Congrats, GJ!

ahahahah...great story Dan!

Hairy Red Cooter is my favourite taste btw...for those of you who had the priviledge to watch the HBO series Games of Thrones....remember the whore, red of hair, called Ross? Remember when she shows it to Theon Greyjoy when she leaves winterfell?...love that kind of beauty[8D]
I never had a red-haired GF....and it's one of my worse regrets...Some say their taste is different from normal girls....they say they taste of fire and passion... yes, defenetly on my list of "things to do before dying"[;)]

[AcePylut]

ditto that - married a redhead couldn't be happier.

[krupp_88mm]

[/quote]

Natural Bush
Desperately Hairy
or Floss

[/quote]'

[Mistmatz]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
...
I never had a red-haired GF....and it's one of my worse regrets...Some say their taste is different from normal girls....they say they taste of fire and passion... yes, defenetly on my list of "things to do before dying"[;)]

Just make sure your GF doesn't read this AAR...

[paullus99]

What? Did everyone on this thread marry a red head?

[cwDeici]

ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
...
I never had a red-haired GF....and it's one of my worse regrets...Some say their taste is different from normal girls....they say they taste of fire and passion... yes, defenetly on my list of "things to do before dying"[;)]

Just make sure your GF doesn't read this AAR...

One of Rader's last hopes is that she stumbles on this and rages till he quits.

[JohnDillworth]

Natural Bush
Desperately Hairy
or Floss

Well I was going to go with Operation:
Close Shave
Clean Sweep
landing strip
Hitler Mustache

but too each his own

[CaptBeefheart]

GJ is about to invade Japan proper, and in my humble experience let's just say the native lasses are not lacking for what GJ likes.

Operation:
Weedwacker?
Triple Canopy Jungle?
Get Me a Lantern and a Machete?
Or the old standby: Coronet?

Whatever it's called, good luck.

Cheers,
CC

[jmalter]

Op Delta-Vee ?

Op V for Victory ?

but i do prefer my idea, Op Very Hairy.

back in the day, the cartoonist Vaughn Bode ran a comic in Playbot or Penthaus called 'Cheech Wizard'. Cheech, Vaughn & I all went to school at SU (Sorcerer's University). the comic usually featured Cheech kicking some dude in the yarbles, or sometimes M1937 punkerpans would chase the enemy 'cross the blasted landscape (Corporal 7 was kinda gay). on one occaision, Cheech freaked out when confronted w/ an especially nubilesco dreamgirl - "Aiiee! Bald Pu**y!"

is it me, or do we seem to be wandering from the point a bit?

[krupp_88mm]

Veeery hairy?

[GreyJoy]

Jul 6, 7 1944

Another damned unescorted raid on the 6th...with HUGE losses....luckly escort got back on the 7th and we contained the disaster...but we're once again short of bombers and we need to stop for more days...[:(]

Despite that we managed to wipe out 123 SAM factories...

Lost more than 55 4Es today...way too much

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Night Naval bombardment of Akita at 117,55 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

29 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BC Renown
CA Exeter
CA Louisville
CA Portland
CL Denver

Japanese ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 19 (1 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)



Manpower hits 3
Fires 88
Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 31
Port hits 14
Port fuel hits 3



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Morning Air attack on Tsu , at 110,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 57
N1K1-J George x 53
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 144
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 27
Ki-84a Frank x 76



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 133
B-29-1 Superfort x 111

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 5 destroyed, 28 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 4 destroyed, 35 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak



A7M2 Sam factory hits 19
A7M2 Sam factory hits 21

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Morning Air attack on Tsu , at 110,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 42
N1K1-J George x 45
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 93
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 23
Ki-84a Frank x 61



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 21


Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 6 destroyed, 15 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak



A7M2 Sam factory hits 1


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Afternoon Air attack on Tsu , at 110,60

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 42,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 37
N1K1-J George x 37
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 33
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 8
Ki-84a Frank x 17



Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 125


Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 4 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 5 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 5 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 07, 44

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Morning Air attack on Tsu , at 110,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 24
A6M5c Zero x 5
J2M3 Jack x 44
N1K1-J George x 99
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 138
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 24
Ki-84a Frank x 84
Ki-100-I Tony x 15
Ki-102b Randy x 2



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 99
B-29-1 Superfort x 84
P-51B Mustang x 35

where the hell are the P-38s!?!?!?!?!?

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 5 destroyed, 11 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-29-1 Superfort: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
P-51B Mustang: 4 destroyed



A7M2 Sam factory hits 20
A7M2 Sam factory hits 17
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Morning Air attack on Tsu , at 110,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 15
A6M5c Zero x 2
J2M3 Jack x 41
N1K1-J George x 84
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 103
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 24
Ki-84a Frank x 72
Ki-100-I Tony x 13
Ki-102b Randy x 1



Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 33
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 241
P-51B Mustang x 18


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 4 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 8 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 8 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

P-38s escorted the sweep raid instead of the bombers...[:o]

[GreyJoy]

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[jmalter]

no worries GJ,

just keep beating on those fighter factories - 90 days from now, you'll be lord of the skies.

your current 4E losses are heavy, but each fighter factory point destroyed is multiplied by the number of months the factory remains out of service. you lost 55 4Es, rader lost 60 fighters in the air, then add ([number of months] * 123). six months from now, that's 750 fighters that won't be around.

w/ your new bases in the Kuriles, you might be able to fly some L-R fighters directly from WC to Hok bases. & w/ more recon assets, you can keep an eye on those previously-plastered bases, slam them again if rader tries to repair the factories you've rubbled.

[GreyJoy]

Rader is repairing the factories actually. He's surely swimming in supplies so that's not a bottleneck for him...i need to keep on beating them...i know...but the replacements rate for B29s and B24s is so low that i should lose not more than 70 4Es each month to keep me in balance.....while with the actual loss rate from the 700 4Es i started with only 300 remains in my squadrons....[:(]
 
However we did our best and we achieved some decent results.
The KI-84 and SAM productions have been sensitively damaged, along with the KI-83 R&R and the George production (thou in minor degree).
He keeps on reaserching hundreds of Shindens...but by now i cannot waste more 4Es on R&R factories...gotta keep my efforts focused on SAMs and KI-83/84s
 
I'm pretty puzzled by the disappearance of the KB....how is possible that i lost here again!?!?!? My CVs are getting back to PH....within the next 2 weeks 3 British CVs will join the party, creating a very strong Death Star.
Now the Hellcat 5 is coming online and i'll soon be able to upgrade a lot of CV airgroups to Corsairs, and new Hellcats