41-45GC:1.05.28 M60A3TTS (Sov) v Pelton (Axis)

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RE: Deep Reserves

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The strategy I am trying to use is to go after the german infantry formations. My thinking is that (eventually) they will wear down enough to the point that red army motorized troops can get some breakthrough action. Will be interesting to compare.
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Blitzkrieg Redux

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Week 54- 25.6.44

The Summer '42 campaign is off to a bad start for the USSR. In the north, 24th Panzer has entered the fray and pushes back weak units of the Leningrad Front. Two divisions are surrounded.

In the area of Moscow, panzers emerge there too in conjunction with powerful infantry forces in an attempt to once again take the capital. A small number of rifle corps deploy west of the capital to resist a breakthrough attempt.

The revamped Volkhov Front sees its first action at the town of Schilovo. It is able to move two of three German positions, but their fort line behind the river makes for a very stout defense. A decision will have to be made whether to try and fight it out on this line.

The south where the panzers roam is not surprisingly the most difficult area. Another 18 divisions are surrounded and this loss rate clearly can't be sustained for many weeks. STAVKA sees the danger of having more forces pinned against Taganrog Bay, so once again more cities have to be given up as forces are pulled back across the Don. It's a helpless feeling back in the Kremlin. A total of four panzer divisions are engaged in the southern regions, with three of the four retreating and 88 AFVs reported as casualties. But due to the general lack of mobility in some cases, more divisions will be surrounded next week there.

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Southern Area of Operations
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Crisis and Decisions

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Week 55- 2.7.41

A bitter blow. German troops launch a massive assault on West Moscow and rout the three defending rifle divisions, while 7th panzer and two supporting infantry divisions cut into the fortified line east of Moscow. A counterattack by Red Army troops cannot dislodge the single infantry division that occupied the West Moscow area.

To the south, more divisions are gobbled up by panzer units. A decision needs to be made where and if the Volkhov Front should redeploy. Attempt to stabilize the lines near Moscow or aid units to the south? Everywhere it seems the Germans have 7 CV infantry divisions dug in behind rivers and well fortified. The Tambov-Voronezh region has the Axis allied units, but it's questionable what value there is attacking that area when there are two major fires burning elsewhere.

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Southern area of operations
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As promised. The Red Army will either evolve or perish trying.
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RE: Red Army losses in 1942 - Groundhog Day on the Eastern Front?

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I have been following this AAR with interest and I wanted to offer a few historical data on Red Army losses for 1942 to put things in perspective for this and other GC campaigns that have reached 1942 playing version 1.05.. David Glantz's "When Titans Clashed" posted a few useful figures (Table A, page 292)

Red Army Losses
---------------- Killed+Wounded KIA+Missing
1st Quarter 1942 1,800,000 620,000
2nd Quarter 1942 1,500,000 780,000
3rd Quarter 1942 2,400,000 1,140,000
4th Quarter 1942 1,390,000 456,000
1st Quarter 1943 2,077,000 656,000

RA Tanks losses for the whole 1942: 15,000
RA Aircraft losses for 1942: 12,000

May 1942 Red Army frontlines strength: ~ 6,000,000 (includes wounded)
Wehrmacht+German Allies: 3,600,000


I have read some other AAR complaining that Red Army losses are too high in 1942, but historically they were just staggering. I think it is a bit hard to judge if the game is balanced (I personally think it is) when one of the best Axis players (hey Pelton!) has been through the blizzard at least a dozen times. Von Mainstein and his colleagues surely did not have the benefit of replaying Groundhog Day so many times..they surely would have improved on a thing or two themselves.

Bottom line: I am not surprised if the Red Army has a hard time in 1942 in WitE GCs. Its time has not come yet!

M60: thanks for the exciting AAR and I hope this helps!

Since June 1942 is over, I thought I would put out the game losses for both Q1 and Q2 of 1942. You can see that our game has had comparatively lower losses although play style will always have a lot to do with the final numbers. By the end of May, my Red Army stood at 6.7 million.

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Week 56 and more retreating

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Week 56- 9.7.42

German and Finnish forces are conducting a broad advance against the Leningrad Front in the north. They appear to have shifted a number of divisions that were opposite the more heavily fortified region of the Kalinin Front in order to make more headway.
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In the area of Moscow, selective assaults are made by the Germans in order to reduce the forts in their immediate path. Two panzer divisions and the SS LAH motorized division are operating in this area along with some pionier-heavy divisions selected for their fort-busting abilities.
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To the south, the Red Army retreats over the Don to stabilize that area.
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Soviet losses over the past two weeks have been an unsustainable 200,000 men while the Germans have lost 50,000 of their own. Pelton's panzer strength has also dipped for the moment under 1,500 operational machines as panzer divisions were subjected to nine Soviet attacks over the past three weeks.

Second Tank Army is organized under Semyon Bagdanov and receives 4 tank corps.
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Week 57

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Week 57- 16.7.42

The middle of July and Soviet forces in the south have run for the safety of the Don. With the great successes he has had in the summer to date, Pelton now orders his armor back to the Voronezh-Tambov region opposite Soviet 1st Shock Army northwest of Boguchar. Seven Wehrmacht divisions cross over the Bityug River southeast of Voronezh. In all, fifteen panzer divisions appear to be massing with the usual motorized forces to isolate and destroy 1st Shock Army plus whatever else is foolish enough to stand in their way.

1st Shock Army under Niklolai Feklenko withdraws some 50 miles to the east and halts.

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RE: Week 57

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Reading up on your AAR now and I am really enjoying it. One question though. Do you use a mod to get all the placenames of the smaller towns on the map? It looks good and gives you more of an objective so I would like to use it as well.

Continue the good work!
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RE: Week 57

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ORIGINAL: Singleton Mosby

Reading up on your AAR now and I am really enjoying it. One question though. Do you use a mod to get all the placenames of the smaller towns on the map? It looks good and gives you more of an objective so I would like to use it as well.

Continue the good work!

Thanks, the mod you want by redmarkus can be found here.
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Week 58- Back to Week 47?

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Week 58- 23.7.42

Near Voronezh, Pelton declines the opportunity to charge his panzers straight east and instead heads northeast, returning to the same area that we were some eleven weeks ago. He blasts through the Soviet defenses there and re-crosses the Oka in one spot. It appears to be another possible flanking attack well east of Moscow. On a positive note, he does not pocket any new units in the area, although for certain some Soviet units are in a precarious position. Most of the 39th Army along the Oka could be swallowed whole if he presses the matter.
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It seems like only a matter of time before he generates another big pocket, but at least for this week we record a slight troop increase. Also on the plus side all this maneuver keeps operational panzer strength of the Wehrmacht from growing. With 600 panzers in the field shops, he has less than 1,400 machines fit for duty vs. 6,600 Soviet. For that reason he seems careful not to venture far from the safety of river defenses.

North of Moscow, he is pushing his infantry southeast to eventually force the Red Army back to the east even more in the next few weeks. At this point there is not much in the way of reserves that can be committed to bolster the defense there.
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RE: Week 58- Back to Week 47?

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Hey Ed,

Great game you have going and super AAR.
Things look a bit bleak but he has quite a distance to go and terrain favors the defense.
Can't say for sure from the pics, but if you can hold your positions on the OKA, and extend the line to the East, you may be able to hit him in the flankwhen he continues North. Those splendid troops in Stalingrad could be used?
Alternatively, fall back and delay and avoid encirclement, but that would probably mean giving up Moscow, and start hitting him in the South. If his panzers leave the Moscow area, be very careful!

Good luck!
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Week 59- Another week Another pocket

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Week 59- 30.7.42

North of Ryazan another 24 divisions including the entire 29th and part of 43rd and 60th Armies are surrounded by Pelton's panzer armies. The Red Army defenders in the area that attempted to prevent an encirclement were cast aside without any real difficulty. A subsequent counterattack by over 100,000 Soviet troops against the lone 7th Panzer Division that would have broken the pocket failed. [:@]

Numerous panzer divisions have been refueled presumably for deeper penetrations in the weeks ahead and frustration is mounting rapidly at STAVKA.
By the numbers the Germans lost over 32,000 men in the week's offensives, but over a quarter million Red Army troops will simply throw away their rifles in the coming week. Soviet divisional reserves are rapidly disappearing and although a pullback will greatly favor the Axis forces, there may be no choice as clearly Pelton is trying to isolate Moscow again.

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Red Army Forces in the south cross back over the Don.
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RE: Week 59- Another week Another pocket

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The Germans are strong in 1942 (as it should be). I'm seeing the same on my game [:)] At least I see you are preserving the Guards Rifle and Tank Corps. Patience... you should be putting them to good use starting in september (maybe).

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Week 60

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Week 60- 6.8.42

A similar situation to the end of the German Summer '41 campaign sees panzers north and east of Moscow positioning themselves to encircle multiple Soviet fronts.

The battle lines are drawn as the German mobile formations have driven northeast of Vladimir.

A general pullback takes place west of Moscow to put units there closer to railheads where they can be evacuated. One bit of good news is that our 9th Tank Corps drove through a hole in the German lines to reestablish contact with the pocket created the previous week. The general defense plan now in the area is to defend northwest along the Rybinsk Line and establish blocking positions with guards rifle corps in the Vladimir-Ivanovo sector. Troops that have withdrawn from the western area will establish new positions east of the Moskva-Volga Canal. This will create something of a rectangular box that will be defended in favorable terrain as much as possible.

Starting situation in the area around Moscow
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Ending situation in the area around Moscow
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The Volkhov Front is ordered to make attacks where possible to discomfort the enemy and draw off German troops that would otherwise be committed to their main effort if possible.
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To the far south, 18th and 40th Armies along with 2nd Shock now have support from 2nd Tank Army and make similar attacks to keep enemy forces there at least guessing what may happen next.
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Week 61- Farewell Moscow

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Week 61- 13.8.42

For the second time in the war, and with the Summer '42 campaign only half over, Moscow is abandoned to the enemy to avoid another large encirclement. Once again the pocket is sealed around elements of the 39th Army.

Along the Volkhov Front, Zhukov's forces supported by Pavel Rotmistrov's 1st Tank Army attack and force the retreat of six Wehrmacht divisions, but it scarely seems to have an effect on the general situation.

Further south, Ivan Chernyakhovsky's 3rd Shock Army pushes back a pair of Hungarian divisons supporting the German 71st Infantry Division. South of that, 18th Army supported by Semyon Bogdanov's 2nd Tank Army push a pair of German divisions from the southern bank of the Kalitva.

The Red Air Force is in need of some reorganization. The original aircraft at the beginning of the war which are no longer produced, such as the MiG-3 and SB-2 are shrinking in numbers and as a result with an almost empty pool, not all air regiments can be maintained at full strength. Some MiG regiments are converted to La-5 and Yak-7B. American aircraft such as A-20's and B-25's replace a few depleted SB-2 regiments.

The Red Army continues with the Corps conversion program. Current corps units consist of 26 Guards Rifle, 5 Rifle, 15 Tank, 6 Guards Cavalry and 7 Cavalry Corps.

Starting situation at Moscow
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Ending situation at Moscow
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Volkhov Front northern battle
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Volkhov Front southern battle
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3rd Shock Army in action
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RE: Week 61- Farewell Moscow

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Interesting situation! And nice AAR! Looking forward to seeing how the 1942 offensive ends. 
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RE: Week 61- Farewell Moscow

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OOB For Week 61
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Ground and Air Losses
I was prepared to lose 2 million men to Pelton in the summer campaign. Now that it is half over, losses so far are a little over 1 million, in addition to the men he will collect in the pocket. So it's actually going to be pretty close, barring an unexpected catastrophe that could happen any turn...
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RE: Week 61- Farewell Moscow

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Looks like some good grinding in there M60
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RE: Week 61- Farewell Moscow

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It's hard to believe all the damage he has done to the Russian army and it is still hanging around as strong as ever. His tank strength is very very low atm also.
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Week 62- To the Volga

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Week 62- 20.8.42

The Finnish and German divisions march east against the Leningrad Front. The front has suffered a major loss of rifle divisions in the course of the German summer offensive. Consequently, STAVKA finds it necessary to release the nine rifle divisions of Kirill Moskalenko's 61st Army to that front. This leaves three STAVKA armies in the Yaroslavl-Ivanovo sector: Pavel Belov's 32nd Army, Ivan Fedyuninsky's 34th Army and Ivan Konev's 48th Army.

With Moscow now in the hands of the fascists, the Soviet withdrawal towards the Volga continues. The Nerl River, with the cities of Yaroslavl and Ivanovo are the last defensive positions before the Volga itself. The bulk of Northwest, Kalinin, Western and Bryansk fronts, themselves shrinking in men and divisions, are being squeezed into a rapidly shrinking area west of the Volga.

German mobile forces in the immediate area that have been positively identified are nine panzer, six motorized, and two SS motorized divisions. Additional German infantry divisions southeast of Moscow have also been freed for duty as the pocket containing the remnants of our 39th Army along with an assortment of formations have been wiped out.

We are forced to abandon Vladimir as part of the general move to the Nerl.

Starting situation Yaroslavl-Ivanovo
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Ending situation
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Week 63- Bear Claws

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Week 63- 27.8.42

Pelton's ever reliable SS motorized divisions lead a larger mobile group intent on slicing off yet another portion of the Red Army in the Yaroslavl-Ivanovo area. Totenkopf advances to within 20 miles of their objective with the Wiking just behind. But it is a very narrow penetration.
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The Red Army responded by counterattacking. Totenkopf was the first to come under fire from units of five Soviet armies.
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The result of this was a retreat of 50 miles by the SS division. After a brief move forward, another assault ensued. Wiking, 18th Panzer and 36th Motorized were also put to flight.
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To the southeast of the main battle area, reports from 3rd and 4th Panzer Divisions indicated they too were under heavy attack and were being compelled to withdraw. To the west, 22nd Panzer was also driven back.
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In the area of the Volkhov Front, 14th Panzer along with two infantry divisions put up a strong fight, but were also driven from their position.
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STAVKA concludes that the retreat of five panzer and two SS divisions in this set of battles might have a significant impact on future German plans in this area.
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