AE Naval and OOB Issues [OUTDATED]

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CVE Chuyo is in production queue in Japan, scheduled to its historical date, but it seems whole class was converted from ocean liners. While two was made pre-war, Chuyo began conversion in mid-1942, from Nitta Maru. There are actually 3 ships, with similar names to NITTA Maru, so maybe one of them should convert?

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Ship 5142 St. Mihel, should be probably spelled St. Mihiel, after WWI battlefield.

And Awajisan Maru have probably wrong class, as it was much larger, and is listed as being the same class as its sister ships:
And they are defined as Yusen Cargo.
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it has only been explained a thousand times that the game tons is not gross tons. but it seems that some people do not read anything befor posting. so maybe we should, yawn, ignore this too.
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TF 8092 Pattani Invasion do not have enough capacity. In editor it should take 4 LCUs, but it fits only 3.

ORIGINAL: Tijanski

it has only been explained a thousand times that the game tons is not gross tons. but it seems that some people do not read anything befor posting. so maybe we should, yawn, ignore this too.
Yeah, it is pretty obvious you are one of them. You have also problem with spelling.
Maybe you should check in Dictionary what exactly term "sister ship" means?

PS. I hope you know, that having multiple account on this forum is strictly against rules?

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If this has already been noted, disregard.

Tonan Whaler (2135) has a bind class of 218 set, (which is used by Type-N TL - 2137). It isn't used, but it's there, in Scen 1. Looks like a typo. Should be blank.
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DD-606 USS Coghlan, a Benson class DD, is missing from 1106i at least. I don't know if this has since been corrected.

She was commissioned on July 10, 1942, being built at Bethlehem in San Fran. Spend the whole war in the Pacific.
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When my dutch subs choose to attack on surface they never use their deck gun. No messages appear on the combat screen. Only the japanese merchant shoots. After some rounds of combat (and after the sub was finally hit), the sub commander submerges again due to damage.

I've checked the database. All sub classes (either allies or japanese) have their deck guns rated as naval or double purpose guns. Only the dutch subs have them rated as AA guns. According to michaelm AA Guns will be used in surface attack, but only at short range. [8|]

I would like to suggest rating them as DP Guns or replacing them with other devices.

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Thank you Harald,

Probably a typo but doubt it will ever get fixed in the stock scenario set. Will make sure this is addressed in Babes scenarios.

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Not sure if this is WAD or Typo, but according to the editor the CS Mizuho has 27 listed in the armor with weapon None for the 12/42 conversion to CVL. It gets the same number of Torpedoes on 7/44.
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I did some reading on hospital ships and found that some US hospital ships of WWII have been converted from APs and AKs which are present in AE.

These ships have no withdrawal date in AE and thus stay available in the game as APs / AKs when they should be withdrawn.

So far I have identified USAHS Louis A. Milne (ex-Lewis Luckenbach), USAHS Ernestine Koranda (ex-Dorothy Luckenbach), USAHS Marigold (ex-President Fillmore), USAHS Emily H. M. Weder (ex-President Buchanan), USAHS Howard A. McCurdy (ex-President Tyler), AH-10 USS Samaritan (ex-Chaumont), USS Bountiful (ex-Henderson).

Perhaps someone has a complete list with withdrawal dates or wants to do more research on it?
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Or add hospital ships ! they could add support to bases where docked?

I mentioned this years ago...
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Hello

For modders:

Ship Class ID: 2540 Heywood (class)

Wpn slot 7: SG SS Radar facing "04 Left side". should be: "05 All side"

Hope it helps

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ORIGINAL: Omat

Hello

For modders:

Ship Class ID: 2540 Heywood (class)

Wpn slot 7: SG SS Radar facing "04 Left side". should be: "05 All side"

Hope it helps

Omat

Good find.

Checking other classes, I found the same error for class 2542 C3-A Pres.Jackson.
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Why don't the British have any ACM's? They can't maintain any of thier minefields without them.
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ORIGINAL: rjopel

Why don't the British have any ACM's? They can't maintain any of thier minefields without them.

I am not aware of them having any in the Pacific theatre. They did have several coastal minelayers: one lost at Hong Kong, another lost a Singapore, and two in the Indian ocean (one on the African coast side).
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So they let thier pre-war minfields in India waste away? They had to have someway to maintain them, without relaying mines every couple weeks.
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The British had no minefield tenders. They did have some controlled minelayers that layed controlled minefields, but apparently no ships capable of pulling up a pre-laid mine for maintenance. The Americans only had three (if I recall correctly) at war's start: one each at Manila, San Francisco, and Puget Sound.

The US Army Mine Service did have a larger number of motor-boat sized service craft, mainly for cables and electrical junction boxes. Perhaps the British had similar craft.

The RAN did have three ships designated as ACM: ex auxiliary minesweeper Beragamui (402 tons) and converted merchants Gippsland (159 tons) and Uralba (603 tons).

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ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

The British had no minefield tenders. They did have some controlled minelayers that layed controlled minefields, but apparently no ships capable of pulling up a pre-laid mine for maintenance. The Americans only had three (if I recall correctly) at war's start: one each at Manila, San Francisco, and Puget Sound.

The US Army Mine Service did have a larger number of motor-boat sized service craft, mainly for cables and electrical junction boxes. Perhaps the British had similar craft.

The RAN did have three ships designated as ACM: ex auxiliary minesweeper Beragamui (402 tons) and converted merchants Gippsland (159 tons) and Uralba (603 tons).


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Don is a living dictionary of warships, auxiliaries, merchant ships, local craft etc. - probably even of every coconut which has ever floated in the Pacific. You should see the level of detail of his private mod - see teaser in this thread. And that is only a small example - right, Don? [;)]
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ORIGINAL: JWE

Yes. For many reasons. One of which is the same reason that 5" guns have 18 ammo instead of 320.


The number of shots appears to be related to the number of tubes in the mounting -
otherwise something like divide the shells by six - which is a reasonable value.

Mines are somewhat similar in that the number may be divided by the number of minelaying tubes (or tracks,
or whatever) - but otherwise - they do not seem to have a consistent divisor. Sometimes it is 1, other time
some other value. Is there a standard number intended for a "mine shot"? If so, any idea why it isn't published?
Because some vessels carry very few mines, it might be better if the number of mines was "true" - otherwise
such vessels probably should be given none at all - as they would not even rate one shot. IS there a
number of mines per mineshot that is ideal from a design point of view? If so - what is it?
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