[WIP - Beta 0.8.2] Galactic War, WW II
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Some of the new character symbols
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"Nothing incorporeal wields such power as a word. Though it is the weapon of the smart and cunning it alas needs the same to prevail."
"Nothing incorporeal wields such power as a word. Though it is the weapon of the smart and cunning it alas needs the same to prevail."
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Great stuff, very impressed...then again, that's no surprise with you Nedrear 
...Igniting stellar cores....Recharging reactors...Recalibrating hyperdrives....
RE: [WIP] Galactic War II
To commemorate the rare occasion of a post here, aside my current status, I hereby offer you the new character decals. All of them. I revised all completly, apart of the colony governor where I replaced the planet and gave it a regalia. The backgrounds are not as "spheric" as the originals, but I can not do everything. Nonetheless all got color shadows. The fleet admirals is white and therefore unseen in a .jpg preview.
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GW II Character Decal Mod
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I still got no applications for character names and am currently playing EU III DW. So the progress might slow down further.
Well I found one or two bugs which by a lack of beta testers I had to find myself. Still feel free to contribute things you feel would fit either mod version or report WW II beta bugs.
The victory condition bugs are known!
Well I found one or two bugs which by a lack of beta testers I had to find myself. Still feel free to contribute things you feel would fit either mod version or report WW II beta bugs.
The victory condition bugs are known!
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"Nothing incorporeal wields such power as a word. Though it is the weapon of the smart and cunning it alas needs the same to prevail."
"Nothing incorporeal wields such power as a word. Though it is the weapon of the smart and cunning it alas needs the same to prevail."
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Tremendous work here, Nedrear. Sorry about the lack of beta testers for your mod. Would if I could, but I'm nose deep with the Picard era mod. These victory conditions are much harder to iron out than I thought...
Keep plugging away, we'll get there eventually. [:)]
Keep plugging away, we'll get there eventually. [:)]
RE: [WIP] Galactic War II
ORIGINAL: Nedrear
To commemorate the rare occasion of a post here, aside my current status, I hereby offer you the new character decals. All of them. I revised all completly, apart of the colony governor where I replaced the planet and gave it a regalia. The backgrounds are not as "spheric" as the originals, but I can not do everything. Nonetheless all got color shadows. The fleet admirals is white and therefore unseen in a .jpg preview.
GW II Character Decal Mod
This is a very nice piece of work; I like it!
Remember that the evil which is now in the world will become yet more powerful, and that it is not evil which conquers evil, but only love -- Olga Romanov.
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Nice mod but I just have to say:
"Vmestezvezdy Korolevstvo"? I am guessing you wanted to use Russian for "Interstellar kingdom" or something like that, but "Vmestezvezdy" means more like "stars in one place" or "stars together". You should use "межзвездной царство" - "Mezhzvezdnoy Carstva" or "Mezhzvezdnowo Korolevstvo".
"Vmestezvezdy Korolevstvo"? I am guessing you wanted to use Russian for "Interstellar kingdom" or something like that, but "Vmestezvezdy" means more like "stars in one place" or "stars together". You should use "межзвездной царство" - "Mezhzvezdnoy Carstva" or "Mezhzvezdnowo Korolevstvo".
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Just to make sure I got a second source and not just a well versed google fighter: Are you a russian?
I got two helping me with that one...
Vmeste- is a rarely used term in this case, but it carries the idea of the communism and was used in the USSR. As you said it means "Nation of the Communal Stars". Vmeste- is a term carried for the national or group feeling.
I got two helping me with that one...
Vmeste- is a rarely used term in this case, but it carries the idea of the communism and was used in the USSR. As you said it means "Nation of the Communal Stars". Vmeste- is a term carried for the national or group feeling.
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"Nothing incorporeal wields such power as a word. Though it is the weapon of the smart and cunning it alas needs the same to prevail."
"Nothing incorporeal wields such power as a word. Though it is the weapon of the smart and cunning it alas needs the same to prevail."
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Well I am not a native Russian speaker, but I have studied Russian in school for 8 years. I have to admit that I don't have a good grasp on communist terminology from back in the day, so I guess I could be wrong. It just sounds weird to me. [:(]
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First of all I have to say this is a great mod, I love how much detail and thought you put into the different victory conditions.
Secondly I think that the Polish empire should be called the fifth or sixth republic not fourth since there was a 4 year period (from 2003 to 2007) that the polish country was called the fourth republic. It was a time when the populists/nationalists where in power and it has some pretty negative connotations for most polish people (except for the ultra-nationalists). But perhaps that's intended [:D]
Also I'm volunteering to make the character names list for Poland, just tell me how many names you need.
Secondly I think that the Polish empire should be called the fifth or sixth republic not fourth since there was a 4 year period (from 2003 to 2007) that the polish country was called the fourth republic. It was a time when the populists/nationalists where in power and it has some pretty negative connotations for most polish people (except for the ultra-nationalists). But perhaps that's intended [:D]
Also I'm volunteering to make the character names list for Poland, just tell me how many names you need.
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Gareth_Bryne
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Nedrear, Awaras is right. I am a semi-native Russian speaker, and it's the tense transformations of the Slavic languages that get you. However, you just might keep the name, as a parody).
"Only an idiot fights a war on two fronts. Only the heir to the throne of the Kingdom of Idiots would fight a war on twelve fronts," - Londo Mollari
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I'll stick to my semi-russian speaker and his grandpa who lived decades in the UssR for the correct use of the old terms. After all, translated to "stars which are together" and nation or empire, the metaphorical meaning keeps itself in line with the intention: "Nation of Communal Stars". I will not change it. It is correct.
There are a lot of words of which I don't know every meaning in German and I am from a high school... therefore I would not claim to know everything if I could speak native Russian.
As I mentioned before the old man said the Vmeste-, not as a single word but put together as an attribute in front of a word, indicates the "community". It is like the name for the Polish republic. Though instead of an old term for a republic it is an old way to refer to a selection of people. In this case the communist group of stars.
The alternative I constructed was "Zvezdnyi Korolevstvo plemya", I build that one before talking to the old man. If I had to change it, I would use this.
The Polish Names:
As many as possible. The more, the more characters are ingame with a Polish name and not "Ai Bendu".
There are a lot of words of which I don't know every meaning in German and I am from a high school... therefore I would not claim to know everything if I could speak native Russian.
As I mentioned before the old man said the Vmeste-, not as a single word but put together as an attribute in front of a word, indicates the "community". It is like the name for the Polish republic. Though instead of an old term for a republic it is an old way to refer to a selection of people. In this case the communist group of stars.
The alternative I constructed was "Zvezdnyi Korolevstvo plemya", I build that one before talking to the old man. If I had to change it, I would use this.
The Polish Names:
As many as possible. The more, the more characters are ingame with a Polish name and not "Ai Bendu".
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"Nothing incorporeal wields such power as a word. Though it is the weapon of the smart and cunning it alas needs the same to prevail."
"Nothing incorporeal wields such power as a word. Though it is the weapon of the smart and cunning it alas needs the same to prevail."
RE: [WIP] Galactic War II
ORIGINAL: Nedrear
I'll stick to my semi-russian speaker and his grandpa who lived decades in the UssR for the correct use of the old terms. After all, translated to "stars which are together" and nation or empire, the metaphorical meaning keeps itself in line with the intention: "Nation of Communal Stars". I will not change it. It is correct.
There are a lot of words of which I don't know every meaning in German and I am from a high school... therefore I would not claim to know everything if I could speak native Russian.
As I mentioned before the old man said the Vmeste-, not as a single word but put together as an attribute in front of a word, indicates the "community". It is like the name for the Polish republic. Though instead of an old term for a republic it is an old way to refer to a selection of people. In this case the communist group of stars.
The alternative I constructed was "Zvezdnyi Korolevstvo plemya", I build that one before talking to the old man. If I had to change it, I would use this.
The Polish Names:
As many as possible. The more, the more characters are ingame with a Polish name and not "Ai Bendu".
But if you were going for a hardline communist theme, why would you use "korolevstvo" ("Kingdom")? No self respecting communist would want to have anything to do with any kingdom and the bourgeois nobility it implies...
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Korolevstvo first and foremost describes a "realm" not a kingdom and got special meanings in different associations. If you talk about the japanese korolevstvo you mean Dai-Nihon, the japanese empire 1868-1945. If you talk about korolevstvo in another association it can further mean a simple kingdom. But it never carries one distinct meaning. Vmeste neither... It matters which words accompany them.
I agree the Russian language is definetly more distinct than other languages... Chinese or Japanese as primary examples of multi-usage of words... but lacks the ability to create new words from old ones like other languages, hence their adaption of the modern words from English.
Realm by dictionary definition:
A realm is a community or territory over which a sovereign rules; it is commonly used to describe a kingdom or other monarchical or dynastic state.
A sovereign - as the game goverment indicates - can further be a dictator. It just needs one to rule supreme and unquestioned.
... I just realized my "reviewed" photo show got a mistake. The Russians of WW II are of course NO republic. And as a standard they aren't. I just chose wrong while playing.
Further I got other choices instead of the Korolevstvo. My list of choices:
1: (Gosydarstvo);
2: (Bogatykh)
3: (Zemlyachestvo);
I agree the Russian language is definetly more distinct than other languages... Chinese or Japanese as primary examples of multi-usage of words... but lacks the ability to create new words from old ones like other languages, hence their adaption of the modern words from English.
Realm by dictionary definition:
A realm is a community or territory over which a sovereign rules; it is commonly used to describe a kingdom or other monarchical or dynastic state.
A sovereign - as the game goverment indicates - can further be a dictator. It just needs one to rule supreme and unquestioned.
... I just realized my "reviewed" photo show got a mistake. The Russians of WW II are of course NO republic. And as a standard they aren't. I just chose wrong while playing.
Further I got other choices instead of the Korolevstvo. My list of choices:
1: (Gosydarstvo);
2: (Bogatykh)
3: (Zemlyachestvo);
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"Nothing incorporeal wields such power as a word. Though it is the weapon of the smart and cunning it alas needs the same to prevail."
"Nothing incorporeal wields such power as a word. Though it is the weapon of the smart and cunning it alas needs the same to prevail."
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"Korolevstvo" is explicitly derived from the word "король" meaning "king" which makes it the exact translation for "Kingdom"... Gosydarstvo is much better for your purposes IMHO, being much closer in meaning to "realm" without any monarchic undertones.
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Fine I will change it to my secondary choice of Gosydarstvo.
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"Nothing incorporeal wields such power as a word. Though it is the weapon of the smart and cunning it alas needs the same to prevail."
"Nothing incorporeal wields such power as a word. Though it is the weapon of the smart and cunning it alas needs the same to prevail."
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Okay, then it should be like "Gosydarstvo Zvezdnogo Plemeni".
"Only an idiot fights a war on two fronts. Only the heir to the throne of the Kingdom of Idiots would fight a war on twelve fronts," - Londo Mollari
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No apart of the kingdom argument, which is ultimately sound, the Vmestezvezdy was never questioned by myself. No matter what you write it will stand! And a genetive in Russian is as far as I know a small word. IF I would use yours it should be plemeni not Plemeni. Though the correct way of writing it in this case would be plemya as far as I know.
"Zvezdnyi Gosydarvstvo plemya"
The -nyi merges the stars with the follow up word and creates the "Starcommonwealth" instead of "Commonwealth of the Stars". Further a double genetive would sound stupid in mine and the English language...
Yours would be (plemya or plemini...) "Commonwealth of the Stars of the People" mine would be "Peoples Starcommonwealth." I like mine... I still stick to Vemestezvezdy.
"Zvezdnyi Gosydarvstvo plemya"
The -nyi merges the stars with the follow up word and creates the "Starcommonwealth" instead of "Commonwealth of the Stars". Further a double genetive would sound stupid in mine and the English language...
Yours would be (plemya or plemini...) "Commonwealth of the Stars of the People" mine would be "Peoples Starcommonwealth." I like mine... I still stick to Vemestezvezdy.
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"Nothing incorporeal wields such power as a word. Though it is the weapon of the smart and cunning it alas needs the same to prevail."
"Nothing incorporeal wields such power as a word. Though it is the weapon of the smart and cunning it alas needs the same to prevail."
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"Peoples Starcommonwealth" is like "People's Republic of Haven"[:)]! Sounds spacey, just the right way.
Then (just to develop the idea) it would sound like "Narodnoe Zvezdnoe Sodruzhestvo" or, if it stands "Sodruzhestvo (So)Vmestezvezdy", although that would translate into "The Commonwealth of the Together-Star". Which, to mention it, has an interesting ring to it. To weave a story about the Together-Star, the hardships of the first colonists, etc., etc. By the way, the thing they tried to stick all the post-soviet republics into after 1991 was called the SNG, "Sodruzhestvo Nezavisimih Gosudarstv", The Commonwealth of Independent Nations...
"Gosudarstvo" is usually translated as "Country", "Plemya" is tribe, "Korolevstvo" is always a kingdom...
Just brainstorming...
Then (just to develop the idea) it would sound like "Narodnoe Zvezdnoe Sodruzhestvo" or, if it stands "Sodruzhestvo (So)Vmestezvezdy", although that would translate into "The Commonwealth of the Together-Star". Which, to mention it, has an interesting ring to it. To weave a story about the Together-Star, the hardships of the first colonists, etc., etc. By the way, the thing they tried to stick all the post-soviet republics into after 1991 was called the SNG, "Sodruzhestvo Nezavisimih Gosudarstv", The Commonwealth of Independent Nations...
"Gosudarstvo" is usually translated as "Country", "Plemya" is tribe, "Korolevstvo" is always a kingdom...
Just brainstorming...
"Only an idiot fights a war on two fronts. Only the heir to the throne of the Kingdom of Idiots would fight a war on twelve fronts," - Londo Mollari