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RE: The Air War tide turns
It looks like you have done a solid job in the air campaign. I will show you results through November that will make you cry.
RE: The Air War tide turns
You have done good with the air war. Nice work with keeping your ship loses low also.
RE: The Air War tide turns
ORIGINAL: DOCUP
You have done good with the air war. Nice work with keeping your ship loses low also.
As far as ship losses go I have been very very selective in engagements. I read about other AFB's being much more agressive early and attriting the IJ forces with exchanges .. the problem I see is the line is about the same at this point but both sides have less resources. With teh exceptioni of Canoerebel who has held the IJ out of Sumatra.
I will post later but I will stage a lot more forces into their respective theaters the next month. Then I plan a burst of activity in the November - December time frame on multiple fronts at once stressing the IJ's ability to react. My hope is to expand my Gilbert/Marshall Islands holdings to Naru Island, Makin Island and Milli Islands. The constraint on operations is the number of AP's and AK's in the force. xAP's for example off load way too slow for the impending shock attack. The threat of the KB also constrains operations as I have to ID the force and time my operations to execute and egress. Things really improve wiht the APA's and AKA's and opertional intesnity can pick up then.
As I stated, I am avoiding the Solomon's like the plague. The IJ might force my hand but right now my Gilbert's campaign is on schedule. Grey Joy has given me the inspiration to land on Formosa in mid '44 [:)]
I suspect theIJN BB's will come hunting soon .. I smacked Naru Island good sinking 2 xAKL's and a midget submarine. Tabiteua is a likely target for the IJ's wrath ...
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Air War tide turns
************************************* 09 AUG 42 **********************************
The IJ demonstrate that if I stay at medium altitudes they will clean my clock ..
Morning Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 21
Allied aircraft
Hurricane I Trop x 11
Hurricane IIc Trop x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane I Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
Morning Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27
Allied aircraft
Hurricane I Trop x 3
Hurricane IIc Trop x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane I Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed
Damaged Hurricane I Trop from No.30 Sqn RAF crashes on return leg
PO Bunting, K. of No.136 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 3
WO Robertson, D.P. of No.30 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 2
PO Kitley, A.J.H. of No.136 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 4
PO Moorhouse, G.J. of No.136 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 2
The results of this little gambit of 48 Oscars vs. 32 Trops is: 5 Oscars for 11 Trop's ...[&:] We have to rethink if we want to invest more aircraft into the grinder. The good news .... a lot more groups are arriving .. the bad news is that the pilots are half as good as these groups ..[:(]
We hit Myitkyina which is warehousing Dinah's ..
Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
In other news ...
Submarine attack near Amami Oshima at 97,63
Japanese Ships
xAK Shinkoku Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS Halibut
xAK Shinkoku Maru is sighted by SS Halibut
SS Halibut launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Shinkoku Maru
A USN submarine get a live one on target! Just a small 2.3 tonne xAK but one less xAK moving cargo to the homelands [8D]
More later ..
The IJ demonstrate that if I stay at medium altitudes they will clean my clock ..
Morning Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 21
Allied aircraft
Hurricane I Trop x 11
Hurricane IIc Trop x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane I Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
Morning Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27
Allied aircraft
Hurricane I Trop x 3
Hurricane IIc Trop x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane I Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed
Damaged Hurricane I Trop from No.30 Sqn RAF crashes on return leg
PO Bunting, K. of No.136 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 3
WO Robertson, D.P. of No.30 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 2
PO Kitley, A.J.H. of No.136 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 4
PO Moorhouse, G.J. of No.136 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 2
The results of this little gambit of 48 Oscars vs. 32 Trops is: 5 Oscars for 11 Trop's ...[&:] We have to rethink if we want to invest more aircraft into the grinder. The good news .... a lot more groups are arriving .. the bad news is that the pilots are half as good as these groups ..[:(]
We hit Myitkyina which is warehousing Dinah's ..
Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
In other news ...
Submarine attack near Amami Oshima at 97,63
Japanese Ships
xAK Shinkoku Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS Halibut
xAK Shinkoku Maru is sighted by SS Halibut
SS Halibut launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Shinkoku Maru
A USN submarine get a live one on target! Just a small 2.3 tonne xAK but one less xAK moving cargo to the homelands [8D]
More later ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Air War tide turns
************************************** 10 AUG 42 ***********************************
Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water .....[X(]
Morning Air attack on TF, near Tarawa at 136,128
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 55 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 15
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 9 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 2 destroyed by flak
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CA Astoria
CA Minneapolis
CL Concord
We duck the first round of Nell's ...
But in the afternoon my friends barge in uninvited again and the Quincy is not so lucky ..
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tarawa at 136,128
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 12
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CA Vincennes
DD Pope
CA Astoria
CA Quincy, Torpedo hits 1
2LT Brown, H.W. of 15th FG/45th FS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Morrison E. of 15th FG/45th FS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Morrison E. of 15th FG/45th FS is credited with kill number 3
This mission was primarly to intercept an IJN Bombarment mission I thought to arrive this turn. Total miscaculation on my part. I thought the CAP trap I set up last time would discourage this behavior but ... it did not ..so I exchange 7 Nell's plus operational losses for the Quincy needing a month or so of drydock ..[8|]
In other theaters .. the Night attacks continue ..
Night Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 78 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 5
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 4 damaged
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed by flak
5 Sally's one lost for sure and no damage .. The Oscars did not sweep as expected ..either they are resting .. or they are moving to new bases [&:]
Night Air attack on Cooktown , at 92,137
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 51 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 8
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 8
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Night Air attack on Cooktown , at 92,137
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 8
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Two waves of 14 Betty's and no results for the IJ ...nor our fighters in 3% moonlight ..
We take some bombing practice on Myitkyina ..
Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 16
139WH-3 x 15
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 18
Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Allied aircraft
Hudson IIIa x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 13
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 12
Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 25
Hurricane IIb Trop x 23
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 21
So we get another Dinah on the ground ..and shutdown Myitkyina
On the ground things are not pretty around Port Moresby ..
Ground combat at 98,131 (near Port Moresby)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 12891 troops, 124 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 695
Defending force 3533 troops, 26 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 60
Japanese adjusted assault: 298
Allied adjusted defense: 35
Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), morale(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Allied ground losses:
375 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
4th/A Division
38th Division
4th/C Division
Defending units:
2/4 MG Battalion
A Coy/NG Rifles
Gull Battalion
Sparrow Battalion
49th Australian Battalion
15th RAAF Base Force
C Coy/NG Rifles
Horn Isl Det.
Port Moresby Brigade
Slowly these units will be picked aprt and I will rebuild them for later use ..easier than rescuing them ... [:'(]
Ok more later ..
Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water .....[X(]
Morning Air attack on TF, near Tarawa at 136,128
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 55 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 15
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 9 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 2 destroyed by flak
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CA Astoria
CA Minneapolis
CL Concord
We duck the first round of Nell's ...
But in the afternoon my friends barge in uninvited again and the Quincy is not so lucky ..
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tarawa at 136,128
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 12
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CA Vincennes
DD Pope
CA Astoria
CA Quincy, Torpedo hits 1
2LT Brown, H.W. of 15th FG/45th FS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Morrison E. of 15th FG/45th FS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Morrison E. of 15th FG/45th FS is credited with kill number 3
This mission was primarly to intercept an IJN Bombarment mission I thought to arrive this turn. Total miscaculation on my part. I thought the CAP trap I set up last time would discourage this behavior but ... it did not ..so I exchange 7 Nell's plus operational losses for the Quincy needing a month or so of drydock ..[8|]
In other theaters .. the Night attacks continue ..
Night Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 78 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 5
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 4 damaged
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed by flak
5 Sally's one lost for sure and no damage .. The Oscars did not sweep as expected ..either they are resting .. or they are moving to new bases [&:]
Night Air attack on Cooktown , at 92,137
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 51 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 8
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 8
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Night Air attack on Cooktown , at 92,137
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 8
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Two waves of 14 Betty's and no results for the IJ ...nor our fighters in 3% moonlight ..
We take some bombing practice on Myitkyina ..
Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 16
139WH-3 x 15
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 18
Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Allied aircraft
Hudson IIIa x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 13
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 12
Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 25
Hurricane IIb Trop x 23
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 21
So we get another Dinah on the ground ..and shutdown Myitkyina
On the ground things are not pretty around Port Moresby ..
Ground combat at 98,131 (near Port Moresby)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 12891 troops, 124 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 695
Defending force 3533 troops, 26 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 60
Japanese adjusted assault: 298
Allied adjusted defense: 35
Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), morale(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Allied ground losses:
375 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
4th/A Division
38th Division
4th/C Division
Defending units:
2/4 MG Battalion
A Coy/NG Rifles
Gull Battalion
Sparrow Battalion
49th Australian Battalion
15th RAAF Base Force
C Coy/NG Rifles
Horn Isl Det.
Port Moresby Brigade
Slowly these units will be picked aprt and I will rebuild them for later use ..easier than rescuing them ... [:'(]
Ok more later ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Air War tide turns
ORIGINAL: Crackaces
************************************* 09 AUG 42 **********************************
The IJ demonstrate that if I stay at medium altitudes they will clean my clock ..
Note that Hurricane Mk. I is really, really terrible - at 282mph the only slower fighters of any significance are the I-15, I-16 etc, which at least have the virtue of being maneuverable at low altitudes. Hurricane generally really is a high-altitude fighter in a Pacific context, insofar as it's a fighter at all - the cooling system is not really up to full power and low altitudes simultaneously in this sort of climate, tropicalised or not.
That said - it being August you should have tons of radar sets kicking around India - if you don't have one at Cox's (do you?), how long till you do?
RE: The Air War tide turns
ORIGINAL: kfsgo
ORIGINAL: Crackaces
************************************* 09 AUG 42 **********************************
The IJ demonstrate that if I stay at medium altitudes they will clean my clock ..
Note that Hurricane Mk. I is really, really terrible - at 282mph the only slower fighters of any significance are the I-15, I-16 etc, which at least have the virtue of being maneuverable at low altitudes. Hurricane generally really is a high-altitude fighter in a Pacific context, insofar as it's a fighter at all - the cooling system is not really up to full power and low altitudes simultaneously in this sort of climate, tropicalised or not.
That said - it being August you should have tons of radar sets kicking around India - if you don't have one at Cox's (do you?), how long till you do?
RADAR ... check ... I need to work on the die rolls [:D] I have a radar picket line extending from Akayab to Ledo ..
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"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Air War tide turns
ORIGINAL: Crackaces
I am at a stage to actaully make decisions around spending PP's. I have 2100 PP's saved. Enough to buy a division .. but I am thinking of delaying this process for another month and spend 600 points activating the "Cavite BF", "Cebu BF", and "Clark Field BF " I bought from the destroyed pile. These BF's will do quite nicely in the Gilberts. This is in my opinion far more important to get the Gilberts all level 5 airfields and level 3 ports.
A second mission is to replace the 24th Infantry division with the 5th Marine Defense force. Tarawa is a level 2 port now .. halfway to level 3. I am thinking once Tarawa is a level 4 port we can get the boys off this island and down to Pago Pago readied for their next mission.
I think the next operations need to start the process for execution. A Marine Rgt is preping for Naru Island. The 25th is prepping for Makin Island. Both offer some cushion from the IJN onslaught and project influence deeper into the Marshall's. I need to gather up the task forces and get this operation underway. I have been waiting for upgrades and getting LBA into the area.
The IJ have been way too quiet after taking Port Moresby. I have to think they have more offensive plans in mind .. probably Oz .. If they do I have 2 USA divisions and 5 armored bdges ready to push them back into the sea.
more later ..
In the future activate them as soon as you buy them back. Units with no troops in them cost virtually nothing to activate. They should cost the same, but they do not....
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RE: The Air War tide turns
ORIGINAL: crsutton
ORIGINAL: Crackaces
I am at a stage to actaully make decisions around spending PP's. I have 2100 PP's saved. Enough to buy a division .. but I am thinking of delaying this process for another month and spend 600 points activating the "Cavite BF", "Cebu BF", and "Clark Field BF " I bought from the destroyed pile. These BF's will do quite nicely in the Gilberts. This is in my opinion far more important to get the Gilberts all level 5 airfields and level 3 ports.
A second mission is to replace the 24th Infantry division with the 5th Marine Defense force. Tarawa is a level 2 port now .. halfway to level 3. I am thinking once Tarawa is a level 4 port we can get the boys off this island and down to Pago Pago readied for their next mission.
I think the next operations need to start the process for execution. A Marine Rgt is preping for Naru Island. The 25th is prepping for Makin Island. Both offer some cushion from the IJN onslaught and project influence deeper into the Marshall's. I need to gather up the task forces and get this operation underway. I have been waiting for upgrades and getting LBA into the area.
The IJ have been way too quiet after taking Port Moresby. I have to think they have more offensive plans in mind .. probably Oz .. If they do I have 2 USA divisions and 5 armored bdges ready to push them back into the sea.
more later ..
In the future activate them as soon as you buy them back. Units with no troops in them cost virtually nothing to activate. They should cost the same, but they do not....
Yep that was a stupid move on my part not to assign them to Pacifc Ocean Areas as soon as I bought them out ..[8|]
Did it this turn and now I am moving them to staging areas ..
Things are developing quite well in the Gilberts ..The supply is up to 32K the amount landed on Tarawa a short 4 months ago -- May 8th 42 .. how time flies. The lack of landing SeaBees and depending solely on EAB's is telling. But on the other hand we needed to stablize this are first and we are now ready to build out much more rapidly.
There are now 800 mines in the waters around Tarawa and soon I will station the PT force there.
One might notice I dropped off mines in the open waters near Tabiteua .. Alfred would frown on this .. but 800 mines was much more effective in slowing down the submarine meniace there than 4 ASW patrols . one mine hit and the IJN moved their patrols to insert more north and go around to terrorize the Gilberts ..no longer are the IJN parking in my ports either ..[;)]
I have mentioned that there are 9 atolls here to build to level 5 airfields. I have 4 building right now and next turn we amphb on Nikunau with a BF and SeaBee .. We wil land more seabees in the comming two weeks .. The goal is to station the 7 USAAF and VII Fighter and Bomber wings on these Islands and as stated previously start advancing the VII fighter wing elements up into the Marshals during early 43 ...
The need to take Naura Island and Makin is clear. Nauru will be easier but right now Milli is stationing patrol craft that is peeking deep into the Gilberts ..I believe it was from here that my SAG was detected. Thus grab Makin and start indterdicting Milli ..
In the meantime we move beans, bullets, and butts into their respective theaters...
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"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Air War tide turns
The diagram below gives a feel for the current distribution of forces in teh SWPAC / SOPAC and CENPAC commands
Just south of Tennant Creek:
7th Australian Division - 483
6th Australian Division - 479
6th Aus Cav Brigade - 157
3rd Australian Brigade - 130
3rd Motor Brigade - 129
28th Australian Battalion - 42
11th Australian Battalion - 42
16th Australian Battalion - 39
2/9th Armoured Regiment - 27
2/8th Armoured Regiment - 27
2/4th Armoured Regiment - 27
Overall: 1582 AV
Around the Cloncurry area is about 1K AV of SWPAC forces.
Approx. 1K AV is moving to Sydney to form the SWPAC main command of a propsoed 2K AV.
Luganville (120/150)
32nd Infantry Division - 390
22nd Marine Regiment - 141
148th Infantry Regiment - 129
145th Infantry Regiment - 128
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment - 115
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment - 115
1st USMC Parachute Battalion - 30
2/5th Ind Coy - 10
2/4th Ind Coy - 10
2/3rd Ind Coy - 10
119th USAAF Base Force - 5
641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion - 4
Shipping on ships are:
6th Marine Regiment - 135
145th Infantry Regiment - 4
Overall: 1226 AV
CENPAC:
Tarawa (136/128)
24th Infantry Division - 390
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment - 63
138th USA Base Force - 16
111th USN Base Force - 10
Pago Pago (148/161)
8th Marine Regiment - 142
8th Marine Defense Battalion - 40
1st Marine Raider Battalion - 40
110th Combat Engineer Battalion - 31
3rd USMC Parachute Battalion - 30
2nd Marine Defense Battalion - 28
7th Marine Defense Battalion - 28
Samoan Marine Battalion - 25
104th USN Base Force - 10
Overall: 374 AV
Overall: 479 AV
Pearl Harbor (180/107)
1st Marine Division - 426
25th Infantry Division - 389
21st Marine Regiment - 142
2nd Marine Regiment - 142
9th Marine Regiment - 142
53rd (Sep) Infantry Regiment - 115
2nd USMC Tank Battalion - 86
1st USMC Tank Battalion - 86
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion - 42
3rd Marine Raider Battalion - 40
1/153rd Infantry Battalion - 39
1st/102nd Infantry Battalion - 38
2nd USMC Parachute Battalion - 29
Oahu Harbor Defense - 17
Overall: 1733 AV
The situation below:
Just south of Tennant Creek:
7th Australian Division - 483
6th Australian Division - 479
6th Aus Cav Brigade - 157
3rd Australian Brigade - 130
3rd Motor Brigade - 129
28th Australian Battalion - 42
11th Australian Battalion - 42
16th Australian Battalion - 39
2/9th Armoured Regiment - 27
2/8th Armoured Regiment - 27
2/4th Armoured Regiment - 27
Overall: 1582 AV
Around the Cloncurry area is about 1K AV of SWPAC forces.
Approx. 1K AV is moving to Sydney to form the SWPAC main command of a propsoed 2K AV.
Luganville (120/150)
32nd Infantry Division - 390
22nd Marine Regiment - 141
148th Infantry Regiment - 129
145th Infantry Regiment - 128
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment - 115
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment - 115
1st USMC Parachute Battalion - 30
2/5th Ind Coy - 10
2/4th Ind Coy - 10
2/3rd Ind Coy - 10
119th USAAF Base Force - 5
641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion - 4
Shipping on ships are:
6th Marine Regiment - 135
145th Infantry Regiment - 4
Overall: 1226 AV
CENPAC:
Tarawa (136/128)
24th Infantry Division - 390
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment - 63
138th USA Base Force - 16
111th USN Base Force - 10
Pago Pago (148/161)
8th Marine Regiment - 142
8th Marine Defense Battalion - 40
1st Marine Raider Battalion - 40
110th Combat Engineer Battalion - 31
3rd USMC Parachute Battalion - 30
2nd Marine Defense Battalion - 28
7th Marine Defense Battalion - 28
Samoan Marine Battalion - 25
104th USN Base Force - 10
Overall: 374 AV
Overall: 479 AV
Pearl Harbor (180/107)
1st Marine Division - 426
25th Infantry Division - 389
21st Marine Regiment - 142
2nd Marine Regiment - 142
9th Marine Regiment - 142
53rd (Sep) Infantry Regiment - 115
2nd USMC Tank Battalion - 86
1st USMC Tank Battalion - 86
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion - 42
3rd Marine Raider Battalion - 40
1/153rd Infantry Battalion - 39
1st/102nd Infantry Battalion - 38
2nd USMC Parachute Battalion - 29
Oahu Harbor Defense - 17
Overall: 1733 AV
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RE: The Air War tide turns
Staged @ Hex 60/41
17th Indian Division - 311
7th Armoured Brigade - 147
75th Indian Brigade - 127
70th British Division - 60
75th IAC Regiment - 54
16th Light Cavalry Regiment - 54
44th Cavalry Regiment - 52
3rd Carabiniers Regiment - 52
Overall: 857 AV
Imphal (60/40)
26th Indian Division - 380
43rd Cavalry Regiment - 50
116th RAF Base Force - 13
1st NW Frontier Base Force - 9
Mandalay BMP Battalion - 7
Overall: 459 AV
Silchar (59/39)
19th Indian Division - 266
5th British Brigade - 140
4th British Brigade - 140
54th British Brigade - 139
22nd (East African) Brigade - 133
2nd Recce Regiment - 40
13th Indian Brigade - 37
RAF 221 Group Base Force - 36
1st Gloucestershire Battalion - 33
3rd NW Frontier Base Force - 8
1/2 Det. South Ind - 4
Overall: 976 AV
This force is about 2300 AV moving toward Sweebo
IV Corps
These units are organzing at hex 55/43
Hex 55/43
16th British Brigade - 120
Overall: 120 AV
Hex 55/44
46th Indian Brigade - 127
Overall: 127 AV
Dacca (56/38)
23rd Indian Division - 338
254th Armoured Brigade - 171
3rd Indian Brigade - 104
15th/1st Punjab Battalion - 39
150th RAC Regiment - 37
1st Bengal Base Force - 9
Overall: 698 AV
About 1K AV that will cross just south of Sweebo.
The timing of these operations is set for a November kick off when the Monsoon will subside. Sweebo has less than 30 AV right now and the forces at Mandalay will likely like cross the river to risk my ground attack. If they do cross will will unleash the 10th USAAF that will be staged at that time.
17th Indian Division - 311
7th Armoured Brigade - 147
75th Indian Brigade - 127
70th British Division - 60
75th IAC Regiment - 54
16th Light Cavalry Regiment - 54
44th Cavalry Regiment - 52
3rd Carabiniers Regiment - 52
Overall: 857 AV
Imphal (60/40)
26th Indian Division - 380
43rd Cavalry Regiment - 50
116th RAF Base Force - 13
1st NW Frontier Base Force - 9
Mandalay BMP Battalion - 7
Overall: 459 AV
Silchar (59/39)
19th Indian Division - 266
5th British Brigade - 140
4th British Brigade - 140
54th British Brigade - 139
22nd (East African) Brigade - 133
2nd Recce Regiment - 40
13th Indian Brigade - 37
RAF 221 Group Base Force - 36
1st Gloucestershire Battalion - 33
3rd NW Frontier Base Force - 8
1/2 Det. South Ind - 4
Overall: 976 AV
This force is about 2300 AV moving toward Sweebo
IV Corps
These units are organzing at hex 55/43
Hex 55/43
16th British Brigade - 120
Overall: 120 AV
Hex 55/44
46th Indian Brigade - 127
Overall: 127 AV
Dacca (56/38)
23rd Indian Division - 338
254th Armoured Brigade - 171
3rd Indian Brigade - 104
15th/1st Punjab Battalion - 39
150th RAC Regiment - 37
1st Bengal Base Force - 9
Overall: 698 AV
About 1K AV that will cross just south of Sweebo.
The timing of these operations is set for a November kick off when the Monsoon will subside. Sweebo has less than 30 AV right now and the forces at Mandalay will likely like cross the river to risk my ground attack. If they do cross will will unleash the 10th USAAF that will be staged at that time.
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Air War tide turns
******************************** 11 AUG 42 ******************************
Compared to Greyjoy's thread this is a very boring affair .. compared to any thread for that matter ...[8D]
Our commander of the great ship Cuttlefish decideds to dive rather than sink a TK ..
ASW attack near Wakkanai at 123,48
Japanese Ships
TK Sanraku Maru
TK Nissho Maru
TK Kaijo Maru
TK Juko Maru
PB Bisaku Maru
Allied Ships
SS Cuttlefish
The great ship the DD Isaac Sweers roughs up the waters a bit bit does nothing to I-157 ..
ASW attack near Madras at 35,41
Japanese Ships
SS I-157
Allied Ships
DD Isaac Sweers
ASW attack near Madras at 35,41
Japanese Ships
SS I-157
Allied Ships
DD Isaac Sweers
and the USN SS-Whale puts 2 duds on a xAKL .
Sub attack near Hirosaki/Aomori at 116,54
Japanese Ships
xAKL Yuki Maru
PB Kensyo Maru
Allied Ships
SS Whale
At night some Nell's show up at long range on teh coast of Oz ..
Night Air attack on Cairns , at 92,140
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 2 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 5000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
More Sally's this time hit Cox's Bazaar ..
Night Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed by flak
Night Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 5 damaged
The Lily's have been replaced by the Sally's .. who are getting smacked by 4 hvy flak btns ... [;)]
In the daytime we hit Myitkyina again to try and destroy some Dinah's .
Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Hudson IIIa x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 13
P-40E Warhawk x 15
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 7
Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 24
Hurricane IIb Trop x 19
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 14
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 16
139WH-3 x 15
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6
One Dinah smacked and we closed the airfield down ..But ..Pilot killed in landing accident of Hudson IIIa from No.353 Sqn RAF
Time for a safety standdown .. [;)]
SOC-1 Seagull reports object near surface at 137, 131 near Nonouti
A Type J3 class SS is reported HIT at 137, 131 near Nonouti
This is always good news when a sub has been found . better news when we are harrasing them ..
The huge problem I see is that we have lots of aircraft to meet the IJ with bt no bases close enough to enage .. and pretty soon many toys will go to fight the Nazis.. this is a sick game of frustration for the Allies ..[8|]
Ok we continue to keep moving beans bullets and butts ....
Compared to Greyjoy's thread this is a very boring affair .. compared to any thread for that matter ...[8D]
Our commander of the great ship Cuttlefish decideds to dive rather than sink a TK ..
ASW attack near Wakkanai at 123,48
Japanese Ships
TK Sanraku Maru
TK Nissho Maru
TK Kaijo Maru
TK Juko Maru
PB Bisaku Maru
Allied Ships
SS Cuttlefish
The great ship the DD Isaac Sweers roughs up the waters a bit bit does nothing to I-157 ..
ASW attack near Madras at 35,41
Japanese Ships
SS I-157
Allied Ships
DD Isaac Sweers
ASW attack near Madras at 35,41
Japanese Ships
SS I-157
Allied Ships
DD Isaac Sweers
and the USN SS-Whale puts 2 duds on a xAKL .
Sub attack near Hirosaki/Aomori at 116,54
Japanese Ships
xAKL Yuki Maru
PB Kensyo Maru
Allied Ships
SS Whale
At night some Nell's show up at long range on teh coast of Oz ..
Night Air attack on Cairns , at 92,140
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 2 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 5000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
More Sally's this time hit Cox's Bazaar ..
Night Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed by flak
Night Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 5 damaged
The Lily's have been replaced by the Sally's .. who are getting smacked by 4 hvy flak btns ... [;)]
In the daytime we hit Myitkyina again to try and destroy some Dinah's .
Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Hudson IIIa x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 13
P-40E Warhawk x 15
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 7
Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 24
Hurricane IIb Trop x 19
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 14
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 16
139WH-3 x 15
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6
One Dinah smacked and we closed the airfield down ..But ..Pilot killed in landing accident of Hudson IIIa from No.353 Sqn RAF
Time for a safety standdown .. [;)]
SOC-1 Seagull reports object near surface at 137, 131 near Nonouti
A Type J3 class SS is reported HIT at 137, 131 near Nonouti
This is always good news when a sub has been found . better news when we are harrasing them ..
The huge problem I see is that we have lots of aircraft to meet the IJ with bt no bases close enough to enage .. and pretty soon many toys will go to fight the Nazis.. this is a sick game of frustration for the Allies ..[8|]
Ok we continue to keep moving beans bullets and butts ....
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Air War tide turns
I find this AAR very interesting. Nice break down of forces also.
RE: The Air War tide turns
ORIGINAL: DOCUP
I find this AAR very interesting. Nice break down of forces also.
Thanks DOCUP for the kind words! [8D] It makes writing this AAR a pleasure.
****************************************** 12 AUG 42 *******************************************
The quiet chess match continues.
Without boring the reading we had 5 Allied submarine encouters all hits .. all duds the Grouper caught a DC for one hit ..then the SS Tambor has a live one in tube #2 ..
Submarine attack near Koshiki-jima Retto at 100,60
Japanese Ships
xAK Yamadori Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Yamadori Maru is reported to have been sunk near Koshiki-jima Retto on Aug 12, 1942
Allied Ships
SS Tambor
xAK Yamadori Maru is sighted by SS Tambor
SS Tambor launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Yamadori Maru
I think it is very very frustrating for the IJ that the Allies are getting sooooooo many contacts but they are thanking the God's that our Torps do not work ..[8|]
Some Nell's showed up .. long range again over Carnes
Night Air attack on Cairns , at 92,140
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 1 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 5000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
and over Cox's Baazar .
Night Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 5 damaged
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed by flak
Here we know one less Sally will RSVP for tea tomorrow night ..[:D]
We forgot to standdown one group and they decided to attack Myitkyina .. keeping the airfield closed to the preying eyes of the recon craft there ..
Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 22
Hurricane IIb Trop x 19
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 13
Ok more later ...
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Air War tide turns
First, after this latest microsoft security update my browser CTD's every 10 minutes .. this reduces my update consdierably
*********************************** 13 AUG *************************
We hit 2 xAK's with Duds and sink the Africa Maru and Hokuan Marua ..that is 4 contacts in a day ..
I rather think the Ij took today to reroute all thier convoys to folllow the coastlines ..
In other news we bombed troops south of Port Moresby and shot down 1 zero to damaging 3 B17's .. 13 causualties to a 12K unit ..[8|]
Thre IJ hit Akyab again shutting down the airfield with 27 Lily's and 42 Oscars ..
Otherwise very very quiet ..
*********************************** 13 AUG *************************
We hit 2 xAK's with Duds and sink the Africa Maru and Hokuan Marua ..that is 4 contacts in a day ..
I rather think the Ij took today to reroute all thier convoys to folllow the coastlines ..
In other news we bombed troops south of Port Moresby and shot down 1 zero to damaging 3 B17's .. 13 causualties to a 12K unit ..[8|]
Thre IJ hit Akyab again shutting down the airfield with 27 Lily's and 42 Oscars ..
Otherwise very very quiet ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Air War tide turns
I have come to the conclusion that Pago Pago needs to be built to a level 5 port (maximum it can go) to even think of using it to stage invasions before March '43. This is because of the number of AP's involved to get everything offloaded in one turn. It also means not combining big USMC units until they hit the beaches and reform on the target.
The other choice in this area is Nomea.
The plan might have to be to use Pago Pago for Rgt or smaller invasions and Nomea for Division sized invasions into the Marshalls.
This turn the IJ sent out Mavis and Glen patrols to discover 4 new Allied bases. The IJ sent a message through a back channel that this did not please the emperor [:'(] The Gilberts are coming together nicely. I suspect the IJ will be coming with the KB/BB SAG where at least they will meet B-25's, mines, PT boats, and a SAG of our own .. the USN CV forces are within reaction range ..
In other news the high level of USN submarine contacts and recent luck with the die rolls also has the Emperor very concerned. Crackaces HQ noted an extra long time to return the turn after yesterday's encouter ...[:D]
The IJ is at the decision point in my opinion. To decide on continious expansion until disaster[like invade Northeastern Oz or South Solomons] , reform and agressvely raid until disaster [meet me in the Gilberts] , or to consolidate a defensive perimeter with focused expansion in China/Burma. I believe the IJ has come to the conclusion that all three operations are not feasible in scenario #1 at this point in our game.
More later ...
The other choice in this area is Nomea.
The plan might have to be to use Pago Pago for Rgt or smaller invasions and Nomea for Division sized invasions into the Marshalls.
This turn the IJ sent out Mavis and Glen patrols to discover 4 new Allied bases. The IJ sent a message through a back channel that this did not please the emperor [:'(] The Gilberts are coming together nicely. I suspect the IJ will be coming with the KB/BB SAG where at least they will meet B-25's, mines, PT boats, and a SAG of our own .. the USN CV forces are within reaction range ..
In other news the high level of USN submarine contacts and recent luck with the die rolls also has the Emperor very concerned. Crackaces HQ noted an extra long time to return the turn after yesterday's encouter ...[:D]
The IJ is at the decision point in my opinion. To decide on continious expansion until disaster[like invade Northeastern Oz or South Solomons] , reform and agressvely raid until disaster [meet me in the Gilberts] , or to consolidate a defensive perimeter with focused expansion in China/Burma. I believe the IJ has come to the conclusion that all three operations are not feasible in scenario #1 at this point in our game.
More later ...
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Air War tide turns
ORIGINAL: Crackaces
I have come to the conclusion that Pago Pago needs to be built to a level 5 port (maximum it can go) to even think of using it to stage invasions before March '43. This is because of the number of AP's involved to get everything offloaded in one turn. It also means not combining big USMC units until they hit the beaches and reform on the target.
The other choice in this area is Nomea.
The plan might have to be to use Pago Pago for Rgt or smaller invasions and Nomea for Division sized invasions into the Marshalls.
This turn the IJ sent out Mavis and Glen patrols to discover 4 new Allied bases. The IJ sent a message through a back channel that this did not please the emperor [:'(] The Gilberts are coming together nicely. I suspect the IJ will be coming with the KB/BB SAG where at least they will meet B-25's, mines, PT boats, and a SAG of our own .. the USN CV forces are within reaction range ..
In other news the high level of USN submarine contacts and recent luck with the die rolls also has the Emperor very concerned. Crackaces HQ noted an extra long time to return the turn after yesterday's encouter ...[:D]
The IJ is at the decision point in my opinion. To decide on continious expansion until disaster[like invade Northeastern Oz or South Solomons] , reform and agressvely raid until disaster [meet me in the Gilberts] , or to consolidate a defensive perimeter with focused expansion in China/Burma. I believe the IJ has come to the conclusion that all three operations are not feasible in scenario #1 at this point in our game.
More later ...
Pretty much right on. Noumea is the key. If you own it then that should be your staging base. Large scale invasions are tough until you get the APA AKA class. As it should be.
I am the Holy Roman Emperor and am above grammar.
Sigismund of Luxemburg
Sigismund of Luxemburg
RE: The Air War tide turns
ORIGINAL: crsutton
ORIGINAL: Crackaces
I have come to the conclusion that Pago Pago needs to be built to a level 5 port (maximum it can go) to even think of using it to stage invasions before March '43. This is because of the number of AP's involved to get everything offloaded in one turn. It also means not combining big USMC units until they hit the beaches and reform on the target.
The other choice in this area is Nomea.
The plan might have to be to use Pago Pago for Rgt or smaller invasions and Nomea for Division sized invasions into the Marshalls.
This turn the IJ sent out Mavis and Glen patrols to discover 4 new Allied bases. The IJ sent a message through a back channel that this did not please the emperor [:'(] The Gilberts are coming together nicely. I suspect the IJ will be coming with the KB/BB SAG where at least they will meet B-25's, mines, PT boats, and a SAG of our own .. the USN CV forces are within reaction range ..
In other news the high level of USN submarine contacts and recent luck with the die rolls also has the Emperor very concerned. Crackaces HQ noted an extra long time to return the turn after yesterday's encouter ...[:D]
The IJ is at the decision point in my opinion. To decide on continious expansion until disaster[like invade Northeastern Oz or South Solomons] , reform and agressvely raid until disaster [meet me in the Gilberts] , or to consolidate a defensive perimeter with focused expansion in China/Burma. I believe the IJ has come to the conclusion that all three operations are not feasible in scenario #1 at this point in our game.
More later ...
Pretty much right on. Noumea is the key. If you own it then that should be your staging base. Large scale invasions are tough until you get the APA AKA class. As it should be.
I do own it .. and now I have decided to drop off a Major BF -- the rebuilt "Cebu BF". A full 100 Naval support group ... on Nomea ..that will be the staging area for CENPAC with Luganville the staging area for SOPAC. That leaves 4 other rebuilt units from the Phillpines disaster to be distributed into the Gilberts.
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Air War tide turns
*********************************************** 14 AUG 42 **************************
The early morning hours begins with the IJ finding a loose xAK returning from Sydney ..
Submarine attack near Tabiteuea at 135,134
Japanese Ships
SS I-28
Allied Ships
xAK Asphalion, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Asphalion is sighted by SS I-28
SS I-28 launches 2 torpedoes
Previous report of sinking of SS I-28 incorrect. Ship sighted and engaged at 135, 134
The last words of the CPTN of the Asphalion ..[8|]
OK After firing 6 Torps 4 Duds The SS Swordfish exchages fire on the surface ..
Submarine attack near Iriomote at 88,65
Japanese Ships
xAK Juko Maru, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
SS Swordfish, hits 1
xAK Juko Maru is sighted by SS Swordfish
SS Swordfish attacking on the surface
I watched this on the compbat replay and just cringed another submarine in the pen for a month ..
We attack the airfield at Milli .. what is interesting is that the groups divided into 3 waves despite HQ's in same hex.
Morning Air attack on Mili , at 136,121
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6
B-17E Fortress x 27
B-17F Fortress x 7
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 22
Morning Air attack on Mili , at 136,121
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7
Morning Air attack on Mili , at 136,121
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6
No Allied losses
So we shutdown Milli .. I suspect the Zero's ahve gone elsewhere ..
And at long range we hit Tulgi ..
Afternoon Air attack on Tulagi , at 114,137
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 8
A-29 Hudson x 5
B-18A Bolo x 6
B-26B Marauder x 6
No Allied losses
Port hits 1
All those explosions and one port hit!
The IJ visted Akyab again. There are two intersting things of note in this snippet ..
1. A lot less Lily's
2. Given the number a lot less hits. I think teh pilot losses are accumulatiing in the bomber department.
Morning Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 24
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 27
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 damaged
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6
More later ..
The early morning hours begins with the IJ finding a loose xAK returning from Sydney ..
Submarine attack near Tabiteuea at 135,134
Japanese Ships
SS I-28
Allied Ships
xAK Asphalion, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Asphalion is sighted by SS I-28
SS I-28 launches 2 torpedoes
Previous report of sinking of SS I-28 incorrect. Ship sighted and engaged at 135, 134
The last words of the CPTN of the Asphalion ..[8|]
OK After firing 6 Torps 4 Duds The SS Swordfish exchages fire on the surface ..
Submarine attack near Iriomote at 88,65
Japanese Ships
xAK Juko Maru, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
SS Swordfish, hits 1
xAK Juko Maru is sighted by SS Swordfish
SS Swordfish attacking on the surface
I watched this on the compbat replay and just cringed another submarine in the pen for a month ..
We attack the airfield at Milli .. what is interesting is that the groups divided into 3 waves despite HQ's in same hex.
Morning Air attack on Mili , at 136,121
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6
B-17E Fortress x 27
B-17F Fortress x 7
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 22
Morning Air attack on Mili , at 136,121
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7
Morning Air attack on Mili , at 136,121
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6
No Allied losses
So we shutdown Milli .. I suspect the Zero's ahve gone elsewhere ..
And at long range we hit Tulgi ..
Afternoon Air attack on Tulagi , at 114,137
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 8
A-29 Hudson x 5
B-18A Bolo x 6
B-26B Marauder x 6
No Allied losses
Port hits 1
All those explosions and one port hit!
The IJ visted Akyab again. There are two intersting things of note in this snippet ..
1. A lot less Lily's
2. Given the number a lot less hits. I think teh pilot losses are accumulatiing in the bomber department.
Morning Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 24
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 27
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 damaged
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6
More later ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Air War tide turns
*************************************** 15 AUG 42 **********************************************
An extremly quiet turn..
The IJ hit Akyab again with 27 Lily's and I thought I grounded everything but 16 B-25's hit Magwe and did 3 runway hits ..I will have to stand these guys down ..
I attacked Kaoping and thought I had an adjusted 1:1 but went in 1:2 and took more than I gave. This will need 2 more supported Corps to move these guys out.
Ground combat at Kaoping (89,42)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 17675 troops, 99 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 666
Defending force 5846 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 210
Allied adjusted assault: 693
Japanese adjusted defense: 739
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
358 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 45 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
375 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 95 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Assaulting units:
27th Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
43rd Chinese Corps
4th Group Army
8th Group Army
36th Group Army
Defending units:
59th Infantry Brigade
Two bits of Intel to sift through ..
First:
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Truk (112,108).
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Truk (112,108).
That is not a duplicate .. I suspect a large force is intending to raid the Gilberts. The escape hatch for the B-17's is Ndeni.
Second:
34th Division is planning for an attack on Ichang.
This is the 3rd such message. Given the algorithum in the game for reporting random preperation, I would say a rather large offense is planned in China.
I suspect the IJ has decided to accelerate pace in mid-42 rather than consolidate or those Heavy Volume messages are troop movements to reinforce the Marshall's. I will recon the area with submarines ...
More later ..
An extremly quiet turn..
The IJ hit Akyab again with 27 Lily's and I thought I grounded everything but 16 B-25's hit Magwe and did 3 runway hits ..I will have to stand these guys down ..
I attacked Kaoping and thought I had an adjusted 1:1 but went in 1:2 and took more than I gave. This will need 2 more supported Corps to move these guys out.
Ground combat at Kaoping (89,42)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 17675 troops, 99 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 666
Defending force 5846 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 210
Allied adjusted assault: 693
Japanese adjusted defense: 739
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
358 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 45 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
375 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 95 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Assaulting units:
27th Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
43rd Chinese Corps
4th Group Army
8th Group Army
36th Group Army
Defending units:
59th Infantry Brigade
Two bits of Intel to sift through ..
First:
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Truk (112,108).
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Truk (112,108).
That is not a duplicate .. I suspect a large force is intending to raid the Gilberts. The escape hatch for the B-17's is Ndeni.
Second:
34th Division is planning for an attack on Ichang.
This is the 3rd such message. Given the algorithum in the game for reporting random preperation, I would say a rather large offense is planned in China.
I suspect the IJ has decided to accelerate pace in mid-42 rather than consolidate or those Heavy Volume messages are troop movements to reinforce the Marshall's. I will recon the area with submarines ...
More later ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"