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JJ's carriers reappeared....15 hexes from Carnarvon and 8 hexes from the coastal hexes between Exmouth and PH. The clever, inscrutable bahhhstards meant to bait us and then ambush with their carriers JUST outside of range of a counterstrike. We fool them....we no show up....

What does JJ have at PH you reckon? Supply dropoff / bait TF? Any SigInt on what's at Broome.

Too bad about PH's repair status. I thought y'all were planning on obliterating that field overnight? Perhaps your bombers fooled them...you no show up? [:'(]

ca. 69K LYB's at Port Hedrand (not counting the Morelia Boys, the Tantayuca Boys and the Grand Imperiar Wizards). We don't know if they put some more ground troops ashore yet. My guess is they were construction "troops", Mexicanos and maybe some Koreans in diapers.

Broome has about 16-18K troops and the airfield is at 50% damage. At least one of the recent convoys had troops because we saw them bobbing in the water after the SBD's hit them. I think they are standing off PH with the surface groups so they have the option of running in at night to interecept any bombardment group we may send. They don't want to risk daytime loitering at PH because of the SBD threat from Exmouth. Their carriers are positioned to pick off ships headed for or egressing from PH.
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I wonder how long in this situation the IJ can keep up the SAG/CV's on patrol. I find as a AFB 2 weeks of 6 CV's plus entourage to consume 3 14K AO's and I had better have a port or more oilers ready or life would change rapidly. [I assume the oilers are coming from Java?] Anyway 1 AO hit by a submarine I think would change the complexion of things in a hurry ..might it be worth flooding this zone rather than the Home islands where you have not been so lucky with the die rolls? [&:]
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A little story.... hypertensive client taking a CCB/HCTZ CC: orthostatics and lower extremety edema ... mentions in passing "and my skin sometimes feels like its on fire .." [X(] One SJS case prevented by locking in on a big clue, and rapid intervention ... sort of like skiming all those SIGINT reports to determine that "Heavy Radio Traffic at Truk" this time really means something .... [:)]

I obviously just walked in on an inside conversation. Dont understand a word after the first"....". [8|][:D]
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A little story.... hypertensive client taking a CCB/HCTZ CC: orthostatics and lower extremety edema ... mentions in passing "and my skin sometimes feels like its on fire .." [X(] One SJS case prevented by locking in on a big clue, and rapid intervention ... sort of like skiming all those SIGINT reports to determine that "Heavy Radio Traffic at Truk" this time really means something .... [:)]

I obviously just walked in on an inside conversation. Dont understand a word after the first"....". [8|][:D]

Ahh sorry .. and not to hijack CPTN Mandrake's thread but important to paitents when talking to your provider ..

The problem CPTN Mandrake so eloquently points out is that 15 minutes is all that is alocated to a patient. Providers are trained to extract all the right information to keep the appointment within 15 minutes. But sometimes clients have critical information that can be life changing, and prevent disasters.
CCB = Calcium Channel Blocker HCTZ = hydrochlorothiazide .. SJS = stevens johnson syndrome. Hydrochlorothiazide is s drug used to treat high blood pressure, and has rare but nasty adverse reaction of stevens johnson syndrome . This little problem describes a adverse reaction which the skin and internal organs are destroyed by an autoimmune repsonse. The skin actually goes through a process that is like 3rd degree burns .. not good ... the first symptoms are a report of itching and buring pain along with a lot of symptoms like joint pain and "not feeling well" .. The clues are there before the skin starts falling off but because it's rare these symptoms are sometimes missed ...

An informed client might pop up and say "hey HCTZ causes SJS and I am quite concered.." it just so happened this client after 10 minutes of complaining of all kinds of various things mentioned the key words "and my skin itches and feels like its on fire..." [X(] That phrase made the whole dialogue click ..and this story ends well ..

Now on to WitP AE .. its like deciphering the SIGINT messages .. some times the right phrase makes the whole story click ... and then there are the times we lose our CV TF's because we could not get the right story ..[;)]

Ok back to CPTN Mandrake's & Spirior's problem in the land of Oz ..[:D]
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CCB = Calcium Channel Blocker HCTZ = hydrochlorothiazide .. SJS = stevens johnson syndrome. Hydrochlorothiazide is s drug used to treat high blood pressure, and has rare but nasty adverse reaction of stevens johnson syndrome.....


Stevens Johnson Syndrome??? I thought it was invasion plan for Kendari?
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A discussion of comparative air resources in Scenario 2 go me wondering. This is interesting:



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P-39, P-40E and F4F losses together are less than the A6M2 and that doesn't even include Oscar and Tojos. The Bettys have really taken it on the chin.
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But yet you still have lost more planes overall than the Japs...where did you 'make up the difference'? I'd look at it as combined "fighter losses" and "bomber losses" rather than focusing on the specific model du jour for clarification. This does suggest that the bad guys (Allies) are doing a good job of spreading out plane losses amongst many different types of aircraft, so you're doing nicely there.

Also, an outsized portion of his aircraft losses are on the 'ground'. While this includes losses on carriers that sank, this also includes aircraft that got blown up on the tarmac, but spared the pilots. The former losses (which likely included the pilots) are great, the latter comparatively no big deal to overcome.

Any chance you know when the last Oscar Ic loss occurred in your game? It may help you gauge expected IJAAF opposition. I don't suspect that you'll be seeing a lot more of those moving into 1943 with Scenario 2. Same with A6M2s.
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The Bettys have really taken it on the chin.
I know there were some "Betty gone bad" raids in this theatre a few game months ago that resulted in sizeable Betty losses. Was the balance due to action in and around New and Improved Scotland?
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CCB = Calcium Channel Blocker HCTZ = hydrochlorothiazide .. SJS = stevens johnson syndrome. Hydrochlorothiazide is s drug used to treat high blood pressure, and has rare but nasty adverse reaction of stevens johnson syndrome.....


Stevens Johnson Syndrome??? I thought it was invasion plan for Kendari?

You have the worng code book CPTN Mandrake! I transmitted you the plans for Oosthaven! [:D]

On the Betty gone back feedback Chickenboy .. At this early stage of the game I thought the IJ could replace these losses in scenario #2 with no problems if he chooses to do so? Heck Rader vs. Greyjoy had Betty's till '44 and he had lot's of "gone bad days" ...where am I off base?
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Jap air losses, first screen

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Allied losses first screen. The other fighter losses are the F4F-3 (early carrir battles and fighting around New Scotland), Dutch planes (probably bird strikes), Hurricane IIb (Burma, Singers)), H81A3 (Burma, Singers), P40-B (Pearl Harbor, PI), P-400 New Scotland

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we have also lost quite a few PBY-5 and C-47 although not s single C-47 has been lost to intercept.

The Old B-26 is the 2nd highest land based bomber lost.
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we have also lost quite a few PBY-5 and C-47 although not s single C-47 has been lost to intercept.

The Old B-26 is the 2nd highest land based bomber lost.

I am not as far along as you and Spirior but all my C-47 losses are also Operational Losses .. and dead transport pilots too ... I am sooo glad that the average student pilot today gets through their first 10 hours a lot better than these clowns [;)] Otherwise their would be a cottage industry here in the US .. "Did you attempt flight training between 1941 - 1945? There were serious deficiencies in training, and you might be eligible for compensation! See our website at Bad-Pilot.com to see if you or your loved ones are entitled to compensation! " Hmmm I seem to be killing more transport pilots in training than the Navy ship builders are dying from mesothelioma ...
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*************Nov 20, 1942(c)***************

Oz: A quiet day with poor weather over PH. The B-17's and B-24's come in drips at drabs at night, destroying a number of Tojos and getting some runway hits. Then the P-38's and Beaufighters sweep in the day, trading 1:1 with the Tojos. Nagato bombards the Allied troops the night of 18/19.

Then, in the afternoon, some Bettys go after King's African Rifles

Afternoon Air attack on 22nd (East African) Brigade, at 57,129 (Port Hedland)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 1 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 12
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 13



Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Oh yeah...almost forgot...then there was this [X(]

Ground combat at Port Hedrand (57,129)

Japanese Deriberate attack

Attacking force 49746 troops, 461 guns, 208 vehicles, Assault Value = 1598

Defending force 22897 troops, 572 guns, 427 vehicles, Assault Value = 607

Japanese adjusted assault: 1360

Allied adjusted defense: 411

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1

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Defender:
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2610 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 250 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 23 disabled
Guns lost 25 (1 destroyed, 24 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1218 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 173 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 54 disabled
Guns lost 41 (1 destroyed, 40 disabled)
Vehicles lost 16 (4 destroyed, 12 disabled)


Assaulting units:
5th Division
56th Recon Regiment
4th Infantry Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
66th Infantry Group
77th Infantry Regiment
65th Brigade
56th Engineer Regiment
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment
6th Guards Division
Yokosuka Assault SNLF /2
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
22nd Air Flotilla
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
16th Army
30th Fld AA Gun Co
51st JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
32nd Infantry Division
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
22nd (East African) Brigade
2nd British Division
10th USN Naval Construction Battalion
34th Aviation Base Force
7th RAN Base Force
14th USN Naval Construction Battalion
2nd Medium Regiment
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CCB = Calcium Channel Blocker HCTZ = hydrochlorothiazide .. SJS = stevens johnson syndrome. Hydrochlorothiazide is s drug used to treat high blood pressure, and has rare but nasty adverse reaction of stevens johnson syndrome.....


Stevens Johnson Syndrome??? I thought it was invasion plan for Kendari?

You have the worng code book CPTN Mandrake! I transmitted you the plans for Oosthaven! [:D]

On the Betty gone back feedback Chickenboy .. At this early stage of the game I thought the IJ could replace these losses in scenario #2 with no problems if he chooses to do so? Heck Rader vs. Greyjoy had Betty's till '44 and he had lot's of "gone bad days" ...where am I off base?
You're not off base, IMO. Figure a typical construction of 50 Bettys / month, after 11 months would yield 550. Tip that up to 75 and turn off production when things are full, and 825 is manageable. 75 G4M1 is a little high, but it's not breaking the bank, particularly for a scenario 2.
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I hate to give any consolation to the bad guys (Allies), but in my opinion, they're doing fine in the air war at this time. Establishing near loss parity with the IJ in Scenario 2 is no simple task. This bodes ill for the LYBs in late 1943-1944, IMO.
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Oh yeah...almost forgot...then there was this [X(]
Oh...the loss of THAT Army corps...

Have you reconsidered your focus on airfield attacks for the time being? Looks like JJ has enjoyed the respite and recovered some LCU disablement / disruptions.
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<makes gutteral moaning sound...you know, like when you are being pursued by zombies at night with no moon, no streetlights, your battery is dead on the flashlight, you haven't been eating your carrots and you have only one deer slug left in the 12 Ga>
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Oh yeah...almost forgot...then there was this [X(]
Oh...the loss of THAT Army corps...

Have you reconsidered your focus on airfield attacks for the time being? Looks like JJ has enjoyed the respite and recovered some LCU disablement / disruptions.

Yes. We are just going to have to switch everything back over to daytime ground attack and the losses be damned. We are lucky we didn't get our pale booties (well most of them) expelled from the vacation spot that is Port Hedrand.
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