Those Who Burn American Flags

[madflava13]

I hate to see it, but they are allowed to burn it. It's disgusting and despicable, but they're allowed to. Breaking and entering, theft, and burning one that doesn't belong to you is a crime, and I'd hope the ones who can be identified are arrested and charged accordingly.

If they want to be idiots and burn their own flags, that's another story, as much as I hate to see it.

[Terminus]

ORIGINAL: andym

I can never understand these morons.They burn the flag of the country they live in.So if its that bad a place to live,MOVE somewhere else.Simple really.Personally i think that burning ANY Nations Flag should be a Criminal Offence!

A minor dismeanour. It's vandalism against a piece of cloth that was almost certainly made in China, for ****'s sake!

This is beginning to smell like the House Un-American Activities Commitee. Remember that one? A black page in US history if ever there was one.

[Prince of Eckmühl]

ORIGINAL: madflava13

I hate to see it, but they are allowed to burn it.

Yeah, it's perfectly legal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Johnson

However, it can be regulated, just like any other kind of demonstration. For instance, the protesters can be required to obtain a permit. Public safety also comes into play, so that police, fire and EMS personnel can intervene to protect people and property.

Of course, none of that adds up to a hill of beans when partisan politics come into play. Which, btw, explains why "occupy-protesters" are allowed to setup camp on local, state and federal property when other groups have to play by the "rules." And I'd note that the encampments are confined almost exclusively to areas that "the party" controls, like Washington, D.C.

But, hey, today's "peaceful protester" is tomorrow's green-jobs czar!

[Jim D Burns]

ORIGINAL: andym
I can never understand these morons.They burn the flag of the country they live in.

Yuri Bezmenov tried to warn us in the 1980s before he died, most of what’s going on today he predicted back then. There are lots video’s out there of in depth lectures he gave trying to warn the west of what was coming. Most are found in multiple bits and pieces and hard to find complete coverage of today, but here’s one that is pretty much complete:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnf0I2dQ0i0

He was a KGB operative in India and defected when he found out the friends he had made over the years while working with them in India were all slated to be executed as useful idiots should a Soviet takeover occur there.

These kids today are simply a symptom of the subversion from within campaign the communists started long ago. Not sure if this video details it, but I’ve watched one of his lectures in the past where he lays it all out.

Jim

[planner 3]

Hey ! Missouri Rebel notice in your first pix that they are so proud of what their doing that they wear masks......[:-]How many are US citizens ?


Bah !

[2ndACR]

I don't care how many are US citizens, round them up and throw them out.

They can burn the flag, then they should set the max penalty for beating a flag burner at 10 bucks. There would be a whole lot less burning then. Kill a flag burner and you pay a 100 fine.

[Missouri_Rebel]

ORIGINAL: Vincenzo Beretta


I guess that the "hard workers and respectful kids" who actually find a job have God supporting them - and thus a strategic advantage.

I wouldn't know for certain.

You'll like the last video Vincenzo where it shows the 'peaceful' protesters destroying religious artifacts around Rome. Yeah, all about speculation in the marketplace.

Commies at occupy

lol commie 'confused' individual

For my cousin vinnie

[Vincenzo_Beretta]

ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns
These kids today are simply a symptom of the subversion from within campaign the communists started long ago.

Whereas Bear Stearns, Freddie Mse & Fannie Mac, AIG, Lehman Brothers and all those "100% Capitalist!" companies who striped the young Americans of their future (and sometimes were saved by the taxpayers money - you know, that kind of approach that is deemed "Socialist!" when proposed to cure people, but not when AIG faces the dire consequence of their mismanagement) are a symptom of... what?

Really, I'm not being political here. I'm simply amazed by people who scream pre-cooked "values" while being screwed behind their back over, and over, and over, and over, and over on the very same values.

[Vincenzo_Beretta]

ORIGINAL: Missouri_Rebel

ORIGINAL: Vincenzo Beretta


I guess that the "hard workers and respectful kids" who actually find a job have God supporting them - and thus a strategic advantage.

I wouldn't know for certain.

You'll like the last video Vincenzo where it shows the 'peaceful' protesters destroying religious artifacts around Rome. Yeah, all about speculation in the marketplace.

Commies at occupy

lol commie 'confused' individual

For my cousin vinnie

Ah, yup: people protesting because unemployment among the young in Italy is at the highest levels ever, but SOMEHOW, the Church properties on Italian soil are still exempt from taxes. One wonders why they are miffed, uh?

[2ndACR]

I would not have given one red cent of taxpayer money. Ever. You either make it or you go belly up. Only the idiots did not see the housing bust coming. I saw it and shifted all my money away from anything to do with housing back in 2007. I did the same thing with the tech bubble years ago. I gave up on some rosy returns for safety of investment. I was offered to get into a internet start up IPO years ago, but just could not bring myself to invest in a company that been around for 5 years, never made a profit, only had 10 million in revenue. After the IPO this company had a value of billions, and it made no sense to me at all.

But I still cannot stand the thought that I served my country in wartime to make sure they have the right to burn my flag. Disgusts me.

[SLAAKMAN]

TerminUS,

This is beginning to smell like the House Un-American Activities Commitee. Remember that one? A black page in US history if ever there was one.

The "black page in US history" occured only when HUAC was dismantled. But I'll get it running again soon. [:'(]

[Jim D Burns]

ORIGINAL: Vincenzo Beretta
Whereas Bear Stearns, Freddie Mse & Fannie Mac, AIG, Lehman Brothers and all those "100% Capitalist!" companies who striped the young Americans of their future (and sometimes were saved by the taxpayers money - you know, that kind of approach that is deemed "Socialist!" when proposed to cure people, but not when AIG faces the dire consequence of their mismanagement) are a symptom of... what?

Really, I'm not being political here. I'm simply amazed by people who scream pre-cooked "values" while being screwed behind their back over, and over, and over, and over, and over on the very same values.

I hate to pop your bubble, but the whole housing mess that caused all the trouble we are living through today is the fault of the progressive politicians who forced through bills mandating loans be given to folks unable to pay back or secure those same loans with any collateral, not Wall Street. Wall Street is guilty of greed sure, they piled on in a rush to make their billions, but the core cause of the disaster did not grow out of capitalism, it was due to a socialist agenda and the ideology of social justice at any price.

It was probably too late when the Bush administration finally made an effort to regulate things at Fannie and Freddie, but by then Frank and Dodd were in total control and they blocked all attempts to fix the problem. Everything that happened after that is a symptom of their failed social justice agenda.

The fact Wall Street used their massive political influence for bailouts and basically looted the coffers of the American public is a crime sure, I too want people in jail. But their power and influence is so vast and the political system here so corrupt, it would take someone of considerable fortitude to ever do anything about it. And I haven’t seen a political leader like that in decades, so don’t hold your breath.

Jim

[Missouri_Rebel]

Yeah. I think if you are too big to fail then you are too big to exist. We can agree on that Vinnie, but I doubt you actually think that way. Like I said before, I can understand as sympathize with people exercising their rights and airing their frustrations. It's just that most of these people are complete dolts bent on destroying a nation. Don't take my word for it, listen to theirs.

Nice try at the moral relevance Vince. It is not working. Your true colors are starting to show. Nice shade of red btw. My niece pays no taxes yet gets tons of services through the state and federal government and is eating better than a lot of people I know with $500 in food stamps A MONTH. She is a self entitled lazy brat who passes up jobs because they are below her. She also gets a REFUND every year!!! A refund from what?

Should others come along and destroy what is hers? Should I? I have been broke more than once in my life. Maybe I should have unleashed my anger at those who have more than I did. Maybe attack some welfare rats who refuse to work but are eating good. They are such the bourgeoisie. Your argument seems to justify the means to get to certain ends.

I'm not sure what your laws are in Italy, but here we have what has been called separation of church and state (although it doesn't appear in the Constitution)therefore the government has no claims on the coffers of said church. You cannot have it both ways. Maybe there are other ways to vent your anger towards people of faith. Time will tell.

[SLAAKMAN]

[2ndACR]

As an example of the housing scam, my sister in law got a home loan for 180,000 bucks yet only made 32,000 per year and had 82,000 in un secured credit card debt. So don't tell me the law was not screwed up. I could not believe she got that loan. No way I thought. Sure she made all her credit card payments, the bare minimum. of course 1 year after she got the home loan she filed bankruptcy and wiped out all debt except the house. That was how the housing bubble got started. Giving loans to people that should never have gotten them in the first place.

My credit sucks because I pay cash for basically everything. I got one credit card with a high limit that sits in the safe for emergencies. Every other year or so they send me a use it or lose it letter, I go down and charge 400 bucks on it and then pay it off in full before the grace period ends. Not getting me that way. I could not get a home loan years ago since I had no rent (was active duty in the barracks at the time) and no other bills except car insurance. My wife bought the house and we paid it off in 5 years. Ate the payments right out from under the bank. Had to put my paid off house for collateral on my new house to be built. Same bank. Bought wife a new car, paid 6 months on it and then paid it off in full prior to that with same bank. Had 20,000 in checking and another 35,000 in savings, but still was told no home loan without collateral. So this time, built house, and paid it off within 1 year. Not giving them a dime in interest.

[Missouri_Rebel]

More occupoop protestors. This time showing their antisemitism fervor.

thinks everything should be free

This one holding signs of Intifada...yeah , just concerned citizens

More compassionate occupoopers

Run them Jews out of this country

Yeah vinnie, just your average American

[2ndACR]

Disgusting all the way around. Sad what my country is becoming with this "everything for free mentality".

[Missouri_Rebel]

I have to add this occupooper too.



Crapping on a squad car. The 99%? More like the .00001% I hope.


How bout a good ole sing song?
What this world needs

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

ORIGINAL: Vincenzo Beretta
Whereas Bear Stearns, Freddie Mse & Fannie Mac, AIG, Lehman Brothers and all those "100% Capitalist!" companies who striped the young Americans of their future (and sometimes were saved by the taxpayers money - you know, that kind of approach that is deemed "Socialist!" when proposed to cure people, but not when AIG faces the dire consequence of their mismanagement) are a symptom of... what?

Really, I'm not being political here. I'm simply amazed by people who scream pre-cooked "values" while being screwed behind their back over, and over, and over, and over, and over on the very same values.

I hate to pop your bubble, but the whole housing mess that caused all the trouble we are living through today is the fault of the progressive politicians who forced through bills mandating loans be given to folks unable to pay back or secure those same loans with any collateral, not Wall Street. Wall Street is guilty of greed sure, they piled on in a rush to make their billions, but the core cause of the disaster did not grow out of capitalism, it was due to a socialist agenda and the ideology of social justice at any price.

It was probably too late when the Bush administration finally made an effort to regulate things at Fannie and Freddie, but by then Frank and Dodd were in total control and they blocked all attempts to fix the problem. Everything that happened after that is a symptom of their failed social justice agenda.

The fact Wall Street used their massive political influence for bailouts and basically looted the coffers of the American public is a crime sure, I too want people in jail. But their power and influence is so vast and the political system here so corrupt, it would take someone of considerable fortitude to ever do anything about it. And I haven’t seen a political leader like that in decades, so don’t hold your breath.

Jim

Bravo, well put and without rancor. Great post and spot on.

[wodin]

I see this thread being locked very shortly.

I myself don't understand the American fear of the "commie" as to me that's a thing of the past. The height of which where the McCarthy trails and the cold war.

I also have a view that's considered rather UNPC (nothing todo with communism).

However I certainly don't agree with the idea behind burning flags. You may not be happy with the state of your country but the Flag is historical and the events now are just a another phase of the history of your country.

I also think people need to realise that if your country or economic system constantly advertises a lifestyle and is all about obtaining goods then everyone is going to feel entitled to it. Why shouldn't they? There is alot of reasons why society here and in the US is the way it is and commercialism and the cult of the new and the commodity has alot to answer for. You can't advertise goods on TV allday long and not end up with a population who wants more and more and wants the new shiney thing that they've been told will enrich their life...I can't blame anyone as in away they've been brainwashed to a point. Anyone read about the reaction of governments when the TV was invented...they where very happy with it's possibilties by all accounts..