Soviet Tank Army Bug

[TulliusDetritus]

I have created the 3rd Tank Army. Look at what HQ they are attached.

[wurger54]

How do you build tank armies? Also in a current game I don't see any Soviet artillery divisions, are they built also, if so how? [&:]

[TulliusDetritus]

The Tank Armies are available from july 1942. As for the artillery division thing, I think you have to wait until autumn of that year, I don't remember exactly.

Cheers

[Joel Billings]

Can you attach a save. Did the unit get created assigned to the other tank army? If not, what steps did you take to get this to happen?

[TulliusDetritus]

Yes, I have a save (after and before). I don't know if you will be able to reproduce it though: I will send both files if that may help [:)]

I didn't do anything special. On the previous turn I had created the 2nd Tank Army, correctly attached to STAVKA (as per the screenshot). Then on the next current turn (57) I created the 3rd Tank Army, and the unit already was attached to the 1st Tank Army (not by me that is).

Cheers

[TulliusDetritus]

Beginning of turn. Try to create a Tank Army (already two). Oh, PSV files are not supported so I changed the extension to txt. Just rename it to PSV again. I PM the password (spies spies) [:)]

[TulliusDetritus]

And end of turn, with the 3rd Tank Army attached to 1st Tank Army. The unit is in Kazan [:)] Again, rename txt to psv.

[Joel Billings]

Thanks, looks like if you create a unit in a city with a HQ, the new unit will be attached to the HQ in the hex. That's what happened in this case as far as I can tell. Of course, a unit shouldn't get attached to a unit that is at the same command level. I'll add this to the bug list.

[TulliusDetritus]

Well, you're indeed the expert, but not exactly what you say, I think. I created one tank army per turn (all of them in Kazan). First the 1st, then on the next turn the 2nd (and then the 3rd: the bug). But when the 2nd was created it was correctly attached to Stavka despite the fact that the 1st Tank Army was in that same city hex. Maybe it's about the last unit/slot allowed [:)]

Cheers

[TulliusDetritus]

No, this has nothing to do with the third unit in one hex. I reloaded the turn, 1) moved first the 1st Tank Army to another hex, 2) created a tank army = attached to the 2nd Tank Army.

One thing is certain, this did not happen on last turn (56), when I created the 2nd Tank Army.

[Joel Billings]

I loaded in your start of turn 57 save. Two tank army HQ's were there. If I created the 3rd army at that point, it was attached to the 1st army (1st HQ on stack). I assumed you did this then moved 1st tank army out of city. If I move 1st tank army out of city, then create 3rd, the 3rd is attached to 2nd tank army. As far as I can tell this is the issue. Are you sure that on turn 56 2nd army was attached to Stavka when first built? Since 3rd army says Stavka on the unit detail screen, it is possible the 2nd army was also confused when created and it fixed itself on logistics phase of turn 57.

[TulliusDetritus]

I hadn't paid attention, I suspect [:)] At the beginning of this turn (57) the 2nd Tank Army was correctly attached to Stavka (so I incorrectly assumed everything was ok when I had created the HQ).

BUT

I keep all my turn saves. I have just reloaded the turn 56 and yes, you are right: 1) I create the 2nd Tank Army (1st Tank Army already in the same hex) AND the HQ is indeed attached to the 1st Army HQ. But on the next turn (57) it is finally attached to Stavka (the logistics phase you mention, I guess). So maybe when I will get the turn from Mark the 3rd Tank army will be attached to Stavka.

[TulliusDetritus]

I received turn 58. The 3rd Tank Army is now correctly attached to Stavka (logistics phase fixed that apparently).

[Joel Billings]

Glad to hear it, thanks.