Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, Docup(A)-Koniu(J)
Moderators: wdolson, MOD_War-in-the-Pacific-Admirals-Edition
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
3 MAY 42
Burma
Rangoon captured. Allies retreat from city before i have attack.
City is in mess. Damage are 17/77/66. 34 refineries damage but i will not repeir them for now. I need those supplies for my troops.
Tomorrow 200 Eng will arrive to city and will start repairs.
Main allied forces still marching north and now are one hex from Prome.
Tomorrow i will close Prome AF. I will be easy mission comparing to last three days bombings. Today i lost only one Ki21 from ops but 22 where damaged and i have now almost 20% of bombers in maintenance
China
Bombers attack Kukong making 39 damage to AF.
I will repeat raid tomorrow
Because of weather bombers stay on ground and do not attack Ichang.
Ground forces bombard enemy scoring mighty 54 killed enemy soldiers and disabling 7 squads.
Enemy AV on 2 May 1745AV, on 3 MAY 1694
Philippines
Mindanao is 100% in Japanise heand after capturing of Zamboanga.
Japanese forces on Panay capture Iloilo sending 800 enemy soldiers to other side of Styx. Remnants of enemy forces retreat to San Jose. Japan lost 9 soldiers.
KB1
Slowly sailing west to Soerobaja.
At lest 5 SS spotted in area one attack SAG protecting KB but no hits
Sub actions
US SS attack xAK near Sapporo but no hit.
Japanese Sub put torp in xAP north of Darwin. No sunk sound. No troops on board.
Japanese sub engaged by US destroyers near Pogo Pogo no damage.
Japanese destroyers attack US SS near Singer scoring 3 hits
H6K4 Mavis reortig hit on enemy SS near Rabul during ASW mission
Burma
Rangoon captured. Allies retreat from city before i have attack.
City is in mess. Damage are 17/77/66. 34 refineries damage but i will not repeir them for now. I need those supplies for my troops.
Tomorrow 200 Eng will arrive to city and will start repairs.
Main allied forces still marching north and now are one hex from Prome.
Tomorrow i will close Prome AF. I will be easy mission comparing to last three days bombings. Today i lost only one Ki21 from ops but 22 where damaged and i have now almost 20% of bombers in maintenance
China
Bombers attack Kukong making 39 damage to AF.
I will repeat raid tomorrow
Because of weather bombers stay on ground and do not attack Ichang.
Ground forces bombard enemy scoring mighty 54 killed enemy soldiers and disabling 7 squads.
Enemy AV on 2 May 1745AV, on 3 MAY 1694
Philippines
Mindanao is 100% in Japanise heand after capturing of Zamboanga.
Japanese forces on Panay capture Iloilo sending 800 enemy soldiers to other side of Styx. Remnants of enemy forces retreat to San Jose. Japan lost 9 soldiers.
KB1
Slowly sailing west to Soerobaja.
At lest 5 SS spotted in area one attack SAG protecting KB but no hits
Sub actions
US SS attack xAK near Sapporo but no hit.
Japanese Sub put torp in xAP north of Darwin. No sunk sound. No troops on board.
Japanese sub engaged by US destroyers near Pogo Pogo no damage.
Japanese destroyers attack US SS near Singer scoring 3 hits
H6K4 Mavis reortig hit on enemy SS near Rabul during ASW mission
"Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War"
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
4 May 42
Burma (picture A)
Allies send 4E and 2E (total 100 planes) to bombard Taung Gyi. Losses minimal 64 soldiers and 5 squads disabled. I have 500AV there
In return Japanese planes attack targets in Meiktila killing 220 man, destroying 7 squads and disabling 32
Planes attack also Toungoo with no result but we slow down allied troops there and now i will attack them tomorrow. I have 1000AV there
200 Engineers in Rangoon will start repairing damages tomorrow. I have 1300AV marching north
Gilbert Islands (picture B)
Allied carriers spotted south of Tabiteuea. It is looking like 2 CV.
Again G3M2 fly but not found target.
I have huge penalties because AF is lvl 2 only (63% for lvl 3)
I think allies decided to raid Gilberts after KB was spotted in DEI.
KB2 from Truk will not make it to intercept(out of fuel for flank speed) so i will stay in Truk.
I have 27 G3Ms and 36 A6Ms on island. I will not CAP, all planes on Naval attack and escort with torpedoes as cargo. I hope they find targets if Enemy TF close more to island and maybe surprise enemy CAP
Question what attitude will be best to get truth enemy CAP?
Indian Ocean (picture C)
MKB north-east of OZ found two convoys of British ships and attack closest one sinking 4 enemy ships (they transport fuel so burn like matches)
Recon still showing one ship in closes TF and 3 ships in second.
Tomorrow MKB will split on two making chance of capturing enemy ships bigger.
Morning Air attack on TF, near Exmouth at 33,124
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 31
B5N1 Kate x 24
D3A1 Val x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
xAK Empire Curlew, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAK Empire Condor, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Empire Grenfell, Bomb hits 7, and is sunk
xAK Empire Baxter, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
China (picture D)
I am continuing bombardment of enemy troops in Ichang. Ground bombard is disappointment without losses for both sides, but air campaign is very promising.
I have now 1500AV in City vs. 1600AV of Chinese troops. More art units moving to city.
Morning Air attack on 32nd Chinese Corps, at 83,48 (Ichang)
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 51
Ki-30 Ann x 6
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 21
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
515 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 35 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 66 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
I south China I have 1100AV force vs 1600AV of Chinese in Kukong. 1 hex north of city i have 1500AV vs 600Av of Chinese. City is surrounded. All road are in mu hands.
I am bombarding City AF. Today some or all Chinese units start moving east from Kukong(target unknown)
Other staff
I have intel that BB Maryland sunk during Rabul landing operation. That making number of sunken BB to five. I have also 1 BC and 5 CA on sunk list.
One of them should be CA Huston but from 3 months I have Indianapolis on list.
I have also information that I have sunk 14 CLs, 22DD and 24 SS.

Burma (picture A)
Allies send 4E and 2E (total 100 planes) to bombard Taung Gyi. Losses minimal 64 soldiers and 5 squads disabled. I have 500AV there
In return Japanese planes attack targets in Meiktila killing 220 man, destroying 7 squads and disabling 32
Planes attack also Toungoo with no result but we slow down allied troops there and now i will attack them tomorrow. I have 1000AV there
200 Engineers in Rangoon will start repairing damages tomorrow. I have 1300AV marching north
Gilbert Islands (picture B)
Allied carriers spotted south of Tabiteuea. It is looking like 2 CV.
Again G3M2 fly but not found target.
I have huge penalties because AF is lvl 2 only (63% for lvl 3)
I think allies decided to raid Gilberts after KB was spotted in DEI.
KB2 from Truk will not make it to intercept(out of fuel for flank speed) so i will stay in Truk.
I have 27 G3Ms and 36 A6Ms on island. I will not CAP, all planes on Naval attack and escort with torpedoes as cargo. I hope they find targets if Enemy TF close more to island and maybe surprise enemy CAP
Question what attitude will be best to get truth enemy CAP?
Indian Ocean (picture C)
MKB north-east of OZ found two convoys of British ships and attack closest one sinking 4 enemy ships (they transport fuel so burn like matches)
Recon still showing one ship in closes TF and 3 ships in second.
Tomorrow MKB will split on two making chance of capturing enemy ships bigger.
Morning Air attack on TF, near Exmouth at 33,124
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 31
B5N1 Kate x 24
D3A1 Val x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
xAK Empire Curlew, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAK Empire Condor, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Empire Grenfell, Bomb hits 7, and is sunk
xAK Empire Baxter, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
China (picture D)
I am continuing bombardment of enemy troops in Ichang. Ground bombard is disappointment without losses for both sides, but air campaign is very promising.
I have now 1500AV in City vs. 1600AV of Chinese troops. More art units moving to city.
Morning Air attack on 32nd Chinese Corps, at 83,48 (Ichang)
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 51
Ki-30 Ann x 6
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 21
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
515 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 35 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 66 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
I south China I have 1100AV force vs 1600AV of Chinese in Kukong. 1 hex north of city i have 1500AV vs 600Av of Chinese. City is surrounded. All road are in mu hands.
I am bombarding City AF. Today some or all Chinese units start moving east from Kukong(target unknown)
Other staff
I have intel that BB Maryland sunk during Rabul landing operation. That making number of sunken BB to five. I have also 1 BC and 5 CA on sunk list.
One of them should be CA Huston but from 3 months I have Indianapolis on list.
I have also information that I have sunk 14 CLs, 22DD and 24 SS.

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"Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War"
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Against a CV TF with those numbers I would send them in low at 1000. You will hopefully catch his CAP out of position and get through without many fighters getting to engage. I wouldn't expect great results however.
Having planes searching for the TF to raise detection level is also key, ideally some floatplanes so you can reserve all your torpedo bombers for the strike.
As for the airfield being only level 2 you better go check and see if you can even use torp bombers from it.
Having planes searching for the TF to raise detection level is also key, ideally some floatplanes so you can reserve all your torpedo bombers for the strike.
As for the airfield being only level 2 you better go check and see if you can even use torp bombers from it.
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
ORIGINAL: Saros
Against a CV TF with those numbers I would send them in low at 1000. You will hopefully catch his CAP out of position and get through without many fighters getting to engage. I wouldn't expect great results however.
Having planes searching for the TF to raise detection level is also key, ideally some floatplanes so you can reserve all your torpedo bombers for the strike.
As for the airfield being only level 2 you better go check and see if you can even use torp bombers from it.
I am anot decided yet. Probably I will retreat planes from Island. An will let Allies attack.
Let Docuop think i am not defending island when he came next time i will have many more planes and better AF
There are two reason of his visit.
1. He think that KB is in DEI
2. He spotted 2 turns back Cargo TF unloading more ENG units.
Probably I will retreat my planes becouse they will not use torps and without hem they are useles, and also there is small chance to hit anything if he has 2 or worst 3 CV in that TF. In second hand recon rapport showing 48 fighters and 40 bombers only so it can be only 1 CV.
EDIT
After three day break from game turn send.
Tabiteuea evacuated and now have only ground troops.
AF 2 is to small to use torps by level bombers. They need at lest lvl 4 to be 100% sure they will fly with torpedoes and do not heve any penalties, so few weeks and AF will be ready.
"Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War"
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
R&D and economy
As i am siting at work and my boss is on vacation
, i have to many time i am decided to wright little.
This is from my memeory so number are only 99% accurate.
R&D
I only telling about closes future and what i am sure about.
A6M Zero line.
6x30(0) factories accelerating A6M3a and 5 more factories will join in 2 weeks.
Currently i have arrival date on 12/42 and 46% to next month.
Until may ends i will accelerate to 10/42 and in June 3 more months making A6M3a available in 7/42.
On 1 June i will upgrade all three A6M2 factories to A6M3 so when 3a arrive i will produce 90 plane per month.
Next plane will be A6M5 i will accelerate it to 1/43.
Next step is more complex should i focus on accelerating to M8 model or last model i should produce should be 5c. It all depends if i will have still KB or i will lost it in battle.
I my final target will be 5c i will be able to have it in 6/43 or earlier, if M8 on 11/43
In next step i will use those factories to R&D late war planes. Probably N1K, A7M, Ki-83 line
Ki-44 Tojo line
10x30 size factories. Currently three almost repaired. If i get lucky maybe i will accelerate IIa model to 8/42.
When they will be repaired i will focus on IIc model so it will be available in 4/43 or 3/43. I will also accelerate IIb to avoid factories reset during update.
After resarch is over some factories will start production and some will be upgraded to R&D late war planes. Prabably Ki-84, Ki-201
Ki-49 Helen line
Curently 4x30(0) factories working on it. i have avable date at 7/42 with 72% to next month, so in 10 days i will have it avvable in 6/42.
3 factories will produce bomber (one already building 30 planes of Ia model) and one probably will be converted to R&D different plane. I want to build 120 IIa per month. I will not accelerate IIb as it only give defence fire and for Jap side in will not make any difference.
I am also repairing Ha-34 factories. I will need 240 engines for Ki-49 only and in September Ki-44 arrive. Currently i am building 130 engines per day and 2 more are repaired daily. In 1 June two more factories will start building engine so in end of June i will produce 290 engines and in end of July 400.
Other Planes
I have also huge R&D program for N1K, Ki-84 and smalest program for Ki-67, D4Y, P1Y and B6N. I have resign fro Ki-61(Ki-100) line - i think Ki-44 will do as good as Ki-61 or better.
Economy
Currently I have 260k HI after paying for May pilots. I gaining 4300-4500HI per day.
In home islands i have 700k supplies and they grooving 3-6k per day.
Fuel is 300k lower than on 7 DEC but tanker are on move and i have currently 180k sailing to home. And more is loading in Singer
Resources are steady and holding numbers from 7 DEC
Only oil is drooping as i only transporting some oil from Sakhalin and Hokaido.
I have Shinano and Musashi halted and all SS halted to. All CV are accelerated(next will be Taiho in January). Merchant shipyard building only TKs, CVEs.
Armament and Vehicle factories building 200 units on day each.
Armament have 30k and vehicles are 10k in pool
As i am siting at work and my boss is on vacation
, i have to many time i am decided to wright little.This is from my memeory so number are only 99% accurate.
R&D
I only telling about closes future and what i am sure about.
A6M Zero line.
6x30(0) factories accelerating A6M3a and 5 more factories will join in 2 weeks.
Currently i have arrival date on 12/42 and 46% to next month.
Until may ends i will accelerate to 10/42 and in June 3 more months making A6M3a available in 7/42.
On 1 June i will upgrade all three A6M2 factories to A6M3 so when 3a arrive i will produce 90 plane per month.
Next plane will be A6M5 i will accelerate it to 1/43.
Next step is more complex should i focus on accelerating to M8 model or last model i should produce should be 5c. It all depends if i will have still KB or i will lost it in battle.
I my final target will be 5c i will be able to have it in 6/43 or earlier, if M8 on 11/43
In next step i will use those factories to R&D late war planes. Probably N1K, A7M, Ki-83 line
Ki-44 Tojo line
10x30 size factories. Currently three almost repaired. If i get lucky maybe i will accelerate IIa model to 8/42.
When they will be repaired i will focus on IIc model so it will be available in 4/43 or 3/43. I will also accelerate IIb to avoid factories reset during update.
After resarch is over some factories will start production and some will be upgraded to R&D late war planes. Prabably Ki-84, Ki-201
Ki-49 Helen line
Curently 4x30(0) factories working on it. i have avable date at 7/42 with 72% to next month, so in 10 days i will have it avvable in 6/42.
3 factories will produce bomber (one already building 30 planes of Ia model) and one probably will be converted to R&D different plane. I want to build 120 IIa per month. I will not accelerate IIb as it only give defence fire and for Jap side in will not make any difference.
I am also repairing Ha-34 factories. I will need 240 engines for Ki-49 only and in September Ki-44 arrive. Currently i am building 130 engines per day and 2 more are repaired daily. In 1 June two more factories will start building engine so in end of June i will produce 290 engines and in end of July 400.
Other Planes
I have also huge R&D program for N1K, Ki-84 and smalest program for Ki-67, D4Y, P1Y and B6N. I have resign fro Ki-61(Ki-100) line - i think Ki-44 will do as good as Ki-61 or better.
Economy
Currently I have 260k HI after paying for May pilots. I gaining 4300-4500HI per day.
In home islands i have 700k supplies and they grooving 3-6k per day.
Fuel is 300k lower than on 7 DEC but tanker are on move and i have currently 180k sailing to home. And more is loading in Singer
Resources are steady and holding numbers from 7 DEC
Only oil is drooping as i only transporting some oil from Sakhalin and Hokaido.
I have Shinano and Musashi halted and all SS halted to. All CV are accelerated(next will be Taiho in January). Merchant shipyard building only TKs, CVEs.
Armament and Vehicle factories building 200 units on day each.
Armament have 30k and vehicles are 10k in pool
"Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War"
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Anyone know if capturing Rangoon close Burma Road or i need capture something more.
In manual i have read that Burma Road is open when there is connection by road/rail between Rangoon and Tsuyung so capturing Rangoon should close it.
I am playing beta so Ledo should be no longer considered as part of burma road as it has no road connection to Burma.
Even i am owner of Ranggon I still have info that road is open? Whay?
In manual i have read that Burma Road is open when there is connection by road/rail between Rangoon and Tsuyung so capturing Rangoon should close it.
I am playing beta so Ledo should be no longer considered as part of burma road as it has no road connection to Burma.
Even i am owner of Ranggon I still have info that road is open? Whay?
"Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War"
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
I'm pretty sure that you need both per the manual (Rangoon and Ledo). Beta has no data change contained within it, so this is unchanged from the last official data patch ... 3? or 4? so long ago, I forget.ORIGINAL: koniu
Anyone know if capturing Rangoon close Burma Road or i need capture something more.
In manual i have read that Burma Road is open when there is connection by road/rail between Rangoon and Tsuyung so capturing Rangoon should close it.
I am playing beta so Ledo should be no longer considered as part of burma road as it has no road connection to Burma.
Even i am owner of Ranggon I still have info that road is open? Whay?
Pax
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Those are changes in beta about Burma RoadORIGINAL: PaxMondo
I'm pretty sure that you need both per the manual (Rangoon and Ledo). Beta has no data change contained within it, so this is unchanged from the last official data patch ... 3? or 4? so long ago, I forget.ORIGINAL: koniu
Anyone know if capturing Rangoon close Burma Road or i need capture something more.
In manual i have read that Burma Road is open when there is connection by road/rail between Rangoon and Tsuyung so capturing Rangoon should close it.
I am playing beta so Ledo should be no longer considered as part of burma road as it has no road connection to Burma.
Even i am owner of Ranggon I still have info that road is open? Whay?
[1108m]
Added Indicate on base screen if Burma Road is open (on Ledo, Rangoon and Tsuyung) [MEM]
[1108m3]
Changed Removed Ledo from Burma Road consideration [MEM]
"Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War"
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Yes, I remember those.
You'll need to go back into the beta thread, back to the "m" series updates where this was discussed (and there are 1 - 2 pages on just this). IIRC, Ledo was accidently removed and then was added back in. But, I could easily be mistaken myself on this.
I wish I could help you more, but I haven't gotten my game up to that point yet since this was changed. So, I really don't know.
You'll need to go back into the beta thread, back to the "m" series updates where this was discussed (and there are 1 - 2 pages on just this). IIRC, Ledo was accidently removed and then was added back in. But, I could easily be mistaken myself on this.
I wish I could help you more, but I haven't gotten my game up to that point yet since this was changed. So, I really don't know.
Pax
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
Yes, I remember those.
You'll need to go back into the beta thread, back to the "m" series updates where this was discussed (and there are 1 - 2 pages on just this). IIRC, Ledo was accidently removed and then was added back in. But, I could easily be mistaken myself on this.
I wish I could help you more, but I haven't gotten my game up to that point yet since this was changed. So, I really don't know.
Ledo is removed as part Burma road. Before game was released there was plan about road connecting Ledo with Burma by road but it was newer done. And they forgot to change manual.
I still have information that road is open but i thing it is only wrong massage and not how it is in real.
I think i will ask Docup about that but i do not what to be snoopy about it as it is strategic information so i wait few more turns.
"Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War"
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
5-6 MAY 42
Burma
On 5 troops captured Toungoo destroying 2 of 3 units and killing 2000 allied troops (non combat units).
On 6 i won battle in hex north of Rangoon again destroying 2 of 3 units and killing 2000 allied troops (non combat units).
During air attack on those troops Docup set LCAP over them. First wave of my bombers arrive and was intercepted by 3 enemy fighters. I lost A6M to 3 Fumars. Few moment later 22 Ki-30 arrive unescorted and they was intercepted by almost 30 enemy fighters diverted to area. 18 bombers lost but lucky only 6 pilots KIA and 6 WIA
In north Burma troops are marching from Taung Gyi to Lashio.
I Main allied forces are now in Prome.
Sweeps ordered above Prome, Mandalay and Magwe.
Heaves attack Chiang Mai at nigh destroying 5 planes on ground
in few day i will need to enter open area so it is going be blody as allies have at lest 40 4E bombers in area.
DEI
After few days of resting i am ready to attack remnatns of Dutch troops on Java
I gathering troops in Soeraboja to take Ambon area.
For Ambon i have 2 ID as there is at lest 300AV behind forts.
For rest of main bases i have regimens size units.
KB1 is in Balikpapan refueling, surface fleet in Soerobaja waiting for orders.
MKB
After sunking 4 xAK last day i have split my forces in two on 5. they have enemy ships in range but weather hold plans from launch.
On 6. AC TF found two xAK and intercept them in surface battle (two times) I little disappointment about SAG commender as he was surprised by Cargo ships a he need so many time to intercept and sunk them.
If they ware combat ships i will lost probably my CVL.
China
I am giving more pression on Ichang troops in two days 500 more troops killed and 50+ squads disabled.
Docup now know that only thing he can do is retreat and last day he start to move his troops north to woods.
North of Kukong my troops attack two times enemy forces achieving 1:1 adds. Both sides reduced by 200AV each but more squads destroyed on china side.
Chinese Kukong forces moving west.
I have equal forces in area but i am moving 1500AV to support Kukon battle. I hope city will fall soon.
WipTracer
Bad day for tracer and my game installation.
I have try to install latest official patch but he crash and windows crash to.
In precess game installation was corrupted and a need to reinstall entire game.
Tracer was death to and I spend some time to make it running but in process i lost all data from 150 turns.
I cant also run Official patch installation because it crashes my windows every time. So until i reinstall system i am forced to use beta patch only.
As i reed they are this same file so no big problem
Burma
On 5 troops captured Toungoo destroying 2 of 3 units and killing 2000 allied troops (non combat units).
On 6 i won battle in hex north of Rangoon again destroying 2 of 3 units and killing 2000 allied troops (non combat units).
During air attack on those troops Docup set LCAP over them. First wave of my bombers arrive and was intercepted by 3 enemy fighters. I lost A6M to 3 Fumars. Few moment later 22 Ki-30 arrive unescorted and they was intercepted by almost 30 enemy fighters diverted to area. 18 bombers lost but lucky only 6 pilots KIA and 6 WIA
In north Burma troops are marching from Taung Gyi to Lashio.
I Main allied forces are now in Prome.
Sweeps ordered above Prome, Mandalay and Magwe.
Heaves attack Chiang Mai at nigh destroying 5 planes on ground
in few day i will need to enter open area so it is going be blody as allies have at lest 40 4E bombers in area.
DEI
After few days of resting i am ready to attack remnatns of Dutch troops on Java
I gathering troops in Soeraboja to take Ambon area.
For Ambon i have 2 ID as there is at lest 300AV behind forts.
For rest of main bases i have regimens size units.
KB1 is in Balikpapan refueling, surface fleet in Soerobaja waiting for orders.
MKB
After sunking 4 xAK last day i have split my forces in two on 5. they have enemy ships in range but weather hold plans from launch.
On 6. AC TF found two xAK and intercept them in surface battle (two times) I little disappointment about SAG commender as he was surprised by Cargo ships a he need so many time to intercept and sunk them.
If they ware combat ships i will lost probably my CVL.
China
I am giving more pression on Ichang troops in two days 500 more troops killed and 50+ squads disabled.
Docup now know that only thing he can do is retreat and last day he start to move his troops north to woods.
North of Kukong my troops attack two times enemy forces achieving 1:1 adds. Both sides reduced by 200AV each but more squads destroyed on china side.
Chinese Kukong forces moving west.
I have equal forces in area but i am moving 1500AV to support Kukon battle. I hope city will fall soon.
WipTracer
Bad day for tracer and my game installation.
I have try to install latest official patch but he crash and windows crash to.
In precess game installation was corrupted and a need to reinstall entire game.
Tracer was death to and I spend some time to make it running but in process i lost all data from 150 turns.
I cant also run Official patch installation because it crashes my windows every time. So until i reinstall system i am forced to use beta patch only.
As i reed they are this same file so no big problem
"Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War"
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Hmmm, you are likely correct. However, if you are showing that the road is open, then it is. Pretty sure it is a direct indication (as opposed to a calculated result) that the model is allowing supply flow to China. And I remember from the discussion that there is more than one road comprising the Burma road, it is not just Rangoon. If it isn't Ledo, then there is another base. It is in the thread ... you will need to search through it though.ORIGINAL: koniu
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
Yes, I remember those.
You'll need to go back into the beta thread, back to the "m" series updates where this was discussed (and there are 1 - 2 pages on just this). IIRC, Ledo was accidently removed and then was added back in. But, I could easily be mistaken myself on this.
I wish I could help you more, but I haven't gotten my game up to that point yet since this was changed. So, I really don't know.
Ledo is removed as part Burma road. Before game was released there was plan about road connecting Ledo with Burma by road but it was newer done. And they forgot to change manual.
I still have information that road is open but i thing it is only wrong massage and not how it is in real.
I think i will ask Docup about that but i do not what to be snoopy about it as it is strategic information so i wait few more turns.
Pax
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Probably i will newer capture Ledo, but soon i will capture Lashio and move some small troops into china territory so this will definitely close road.
"Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War"
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
7 MAY 42
Burma
Fighters sweep Mandalay. Finding enemy fighters in air. After battle loses ware 1:1
Bombers attack Lashio troops but bombing enemy in jungle hex is waste of ammo.
As day earlier 4E attack Taung Gui destroying 2 planes on ground
Java
Dutch forces holding strong behind fort lvl 3. But they out of supplies now.
China
Many happens today.
Another raid against chines troops in Ichang, Another 400 troops and 60 squads disabled
Planes attaking hex nort of Kukong intercepted by CAP. We lose 1 Oscar to 4 P40E
Bombardment attacks to keep Chinese forces occupied near Tsiaotso base and in Kukong.
Small damages but at lest they do something.
North of Kukong my forces attack third time reducing defense again
Ground combat at 79,56 (near Kukong)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 40763 troops, 346 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 1336
Defending force 13563 troops, 128 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 418
Japanese adjusted assault: 787
Allied adjusted defense: 916
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1132 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 108 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Allied ground losses:
971 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 127 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
And now most satisfying part of day.
I have decided to counterattack in Ichang. All Japanese forces on morning leave tranches and start attack.
Ground combat at Ichang (83,48)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 40714 troops, 348 guns, 126 vehicles, Assault Value = 1515
Defending force 44027 troops, 236 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1604
Japanese adjusted assault: 1055
Allied adjusted defense: 449
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1462 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 189 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Allied ground losses:
15033 casualties reported
Squads: 710 destroyed, 190 disabled
Non Combat: 494 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 18 destroyed, 26 disabled
Guns lost 46 (22 destroyed, 24 disabled)
Units retreated 8
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
I think i will move my 3 ID and finish with them. They should not have there more than 600AV with very low morale, high disruption and without supplies
Today air loses are 17 Japanese and 16 Allied planes
Burma
Fighters sweep Mandalay. Finding enemy fighters in air. After battle loses ware 1:1
Bombers attack Lashio troops but bombing enemy in jungle hex is waste of ammo.
As day earlier 4E attack Taung Gui destroying 2 planes on ground
Java
Dutch forces holding strong behind fort lvl 3. But they out of supplies now.
China
Many happens today.
Another raid against chines troops in Ichang, Another 400 troops and 60 squads disabled
Planes attaking hex nort of Kukong intercepted by CAP. We lose 1 Oscar to 4 P40E
Bombardment attacks to keep Chinese forces occupied near Tsiaotso base and in Kukong.
Small damages but at lest they do something.
North of Kukong my forces attack third time reducing defense again
Ground combat at 79,56 (near Kukong)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 40763 troops, 346 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 1336
Defending force 13563 troops, 128 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 418
Japanese adjusted assault: 787
Allied adjusted defense: 916
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1132 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 108 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Allied ground losses:
971 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 127 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
And now most satisfying part of day.
I have decided to counterattack in Ichang. All Japanese forces on morning leave tranches and start attack.
Ground combat at Ichang (83,48)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 40714 troops, 348 guns, 126 vehicles, Assault Value = 1515
Defending force 44027 troops, 236 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1604
Japanese adjusted assault: 1055
Allied adjusted defense: 449
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1462 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 189 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Allied ground losses:
15033 casualties reported
Squads: 710 destroyed, 190 disabled
Non Combat: 494 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 18 destroyed, 26 disabled
Guns lost 46 (22 destroyed, 24 disabled)
Units retreated 8
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
I think i will move my 3 ID and finish with them. They should not have there more than 600AV with very low morale, high disruption and without supplies
Today air loses are 17 Japanese and 16 Allied planes
"Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War"
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
8 MAY 42
BURMA
Fighters sweep above all major bases in range but found only empty air.
100 allied bombers spotted in Chittagong. I suspecting raid tomorrow. Probably night so few squadrons will fly night CAP and rest will CAP in day
Japanese bombers fly to to save AF
Allied ground forces from Rangoon are now in Prome. They are moveing nort into Burma territory not to Akyab.
JAVA
Another day of sieging Dutch troops in Malang. Fortification reduced do 2.
Indian Ocean
MKB again merged. On morning planes found 3 allied Cargo TFs. Planes attack and score hits to 5 xAK putting them on heavy fire.
Probably all sunk. One xAK survive untouched. I will send DD to find him.
So far i have sunk 11 cargo ships:
3x Dominion L class cargo
4x Euro M class cargo
4x Euro K class cargo
I still have ammo but fuel allowing me to sail no more than 25 hex south after that i will need to return north.
I think i will be able to stay in area for week.
CHINA
It is looking like allied are evacuating Kukong. Troops are moving west from city. I moving ID to Wuchow in case Chinese troops decide to make visit in City.
97 coordinated from 4 squadrons Oscars sweep Wuchang but find empty air. I thought that sweep will not coordinate?
West Coast
Japanese SS sunk unescored xAP near SF. First torpedo hit and after that they attack on surface from deck gun.
Troops on board confirmed.
South Pacific
Japanese SS sunk unescorted TK near Tahiti
HAWAII
TF with at lest 4 TKs sailing to Pearl. They are empty because sailing from Oz but tomorrow thy will need to slip between 8 Japanese subs.
We have upgraded to r9. I notice one thing. Do Burma road notification in Rangoon is gone.
Last turn i have information Burma road is open and now there is nothing .
BURMA
Fighters sweep above all major bases in range but found only empty air.
100 allied bombers spotted in Chittagong. I suspecting raid tomorrow. Probably night so few squadrons will fly night CAP and rest will CAP in day
Japanese bombers fly to to save AF
Allied ground forces from Rangoon are now in Prome. They are moveing nort into Burma territory not to Akyab.
JAVA
Another day of sieging Dutch troops in Malang. Fortification reduced do 2.
Indian Ocean
MKB again merged. On morning planes found 3 allied Cargo TFs. Planes attack and score hits to 5 xAK putting them on heavy fire.
Probably all sunk. One xAK survive untouched. I will send DD to find him.
So far i have sunk 11 cargo ships:
3x Dominion L class cargo
4x Euro M class cargo
4x Euro K class cargo
I still have ammo but fuel allowing me to sail no more than 25 hex south after that i will need to return north.
I think i will be able to stay in area for week.
CHINA
It is looking like allied are evacuating Kukong. Troops are moving west from city. I moving ID to Wuchow in case Chinese troops decide to make visit in City.
97 coordinated from 4 squadrons Oscars sweep Wuchang but find empty air. I thought that sweep will not coordinate?
West Coast
Japanese SS sunk unescored xAP near SF. First torpedo hit and after that they attack on surface from deck gun.
Troops on board confirmed.
South Pacific
Japanese SS sunk unescorted TK near Tahiti
HAWAII
TF with at lest 4 TKs sailing to Pearl. They are empty because sailing from Oz but tomorrow thy will need to slip between 8 Japanese subs.
We have upgraded to r9. I notice one thing. Do Burma road notification in Rangoon is gone.
Last turn i have information Burma road is open and now there is nothing .
"Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War"
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
9 May 42
In air quiet day every ware. No singe combat mission for both sides.
Burma
Troops are marching.
6 Australian ID spotted in northern Burma[&:](near Katha). I need to confirm that information. But it is not good intel. Also another 17k man (7 units) sooted in jungle near Katha.
It is going to be bloody.
Allied troops in Prome are marching in two different direction some into Burma some toward Akyab.
In 6 days monsoon season will start. I think it will be worst for allied side as they will be unable to supply troops in Burma by roads and rail.
I have 2 5lvl AF in area so they will not suffer from monsoon. Also Rangoon is building fast and will be ready in 10 days.
Java
I need rest mu troops before next attack for at lest week. They are so tired that have no energy to eat.
China
3 Japanese ID enter hex north of Ichang. There is 65k enemy troops most of them disrupted and disabled i will attack tomorrow.
I result will be promising i will attack again of not i will return to Ichang
Bombardment attack in Kukong.
Deliberate attack in hex north of Kukong.
I lost 109 squadrons(disabled) he lost 127 disabled and 17 destroyed.
Units tha was moving oaut of Kukong was small (1700 trops) rest stay in city.
For next few turn i will only bombard them to use supplies. i have 1200 AV one hex nort and they will aricve in 2 days to support. I also starting bombing campaign of Kukong AF.
MKB
Still in Indian Ocean hunting.
KB1
All ships refueled and will now return to Ambon area. I have heavy radio signals from Timor and Ambon. I need to investigate that.
KB2
One of slow AO`s with fuel was hit by torpedo 1 hex from Truk. Damages are medium but fire is 87 and with 1000+ fuel in tanks he will not survive next day.
Eniwetok
[&:][&:]I try to unload troops(Wake CD) in island but after turn i have information in combat reporter that some troops cant be unloaded.
If i reload them to smaller ships i will be able to do that? Or i need naval support. Or i need only wait and they will unload but slowly?
Eniwetok is port 3 but i am using amphibious unload mode[&:][&:]
In air quiet day every ware. No singe combat mission for both sides.
Burma
Troops are marching.
6 Australian ID spotted in northern Burma[&:](near Katha). I need to confirm that information. But it is not good intel. Also another 17k man (7 units) sooted in jungle near Katha.
It is going to be bloody.
Allied troops in Prome are marching in two different direction some into Burma some toward Akyab.
In 6 days monsoon season will start. I think it will be worst for allied side as they will be unable to supply troops in Burma by roads and rail.
I have 2 5lvl AF in area so they will not suffer from monsoon. Also Rangoon is building fast and will be ready in 10 days.
Java
I need rest mu troops before next attack for at lest week. They are so tired that have no energy to eat.
China
3 Japanese ID enter hex north of Ichang. There is 65k enemy troops most of them disrupted and disabled i will attack tomorrow.
I result will be promising i will attack again of not i will return to Ichang
Bombardment attack in Kukong.
Deliberate attack in hex north of Kukong.
I lost 109 squadrons(disabled) he lost 127 disabled and 17 destroyed.
Units tha was moving oaut of Kukong was small (1700 trops) rest stay in city.
For next few turn i will only bombard them to use supplies. i have 1200 AV one hex nort and they will aricve in 2 days to support. I also starting bombing campaign of Kukong AF.
MKB
Still in Indian Ocean hunting.
KB1
All ships refueled and will now return to Ambon area. I have heavy radio signals from Timor and Ambon. I need to investigate that.
KB2
One of slow AO`s with fuel was hit by torpedo 1 hex from Truk. Damages are medium but fire is 87 and with 1000+ fuel in tanks he will not survive next day.
Eniwetok
[&:][&:]I try to unload troops(Wake CD) in island but after turn i have information in combat reporter that some troops cant be unloaded.
If i reload them to smaller ships i will be able to do that? Or i need naval support. Or i need only wait and they will unload but slowly?
Eniwetok is port 3 but i am using amphibious unload mode[&:][&:]
"Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War"
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
Be sure your ships are NOT docked. Should unload ...
Thanks. I have double check and guns are unloading but very slow.
Last turn they unload 2x20cm and 4x8cm guns.
I still have 22 guns to unload (mostly 12cm)
Biggest guns have load cost of 176 so smaller ones should unload faster[:'(]
Combat-reporter info is little confusing. It sound like they will never unload.
"Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War"

