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RE: With the Wren Detachment
Alleged Jap ship losses seem plausible. Yamashiro sustained 12 500-1000 lb bomb hits plus gunfire hits. This will not have been very salubrious.


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RE: With the Wren Detachment
Allied losses (+ 4 x PT). Canberra is not looking so good.


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RE: With the Wren Detachment
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Looks like we send in the BB force (Adm Patterson, 5 x 21-22kt BB's with radar, Adelaide and 5 RN/USN DD's) tonight and clean up the vermin there while standing off the transports. Perhaps Adelaide or a DD could go in first to mop up the smaller vermin.
IMO Adelaide plus a DD.
Several questions:
1) Do we set the BB's to bombard or surface combat?
'Bombard' will put them at a disadvantage in surface combat. IMO 'surface combat' will be best this time around.
2) Do we hold one or two back to bombard tomorrow night and cover the AK's?
IMO, send them all.
3) Do we try to keep some surface force at PH with remain on station command?
Pure guesswork. "115 bombers" seen on an ost-maus? Do they even need torpedoes to cause a very bad day?
4) How long can this go on? Should we send PoW and Washington from Sydney and Auckland?
If you are successful it will go on longer than you think. Send everything. If you do not plan for success then if you are about to be successful you might snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Uggh. Carnarvon and Exmouth with severe storms. Geraldton with heavy rain. Meekathara seems to have good weather. Severe storms over Wyndham. Good flying weather over Broome.
Severe storms over PH. The weather might keep the fighters at PH grounded...or maybe not.
That was the weather for the turn just passed - aka "today's" weather. The weather for the turn coming, the date shown in the top banner, is only a forecast and is shown via the "3" hot key or the "k" key.
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RE: With the Wren Detachment
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Allied losses (+ 4 x PT). Canberra is not looking so good.
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Phffft. It's a flesh wound.
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Uggh. Carnarvon and Exmouth with severe storms. Geraldton with heavy rain. Meekathara seems to have good weather. Severe storms over Wyndham. Good flying weather over Broome.
Severe storms over PH. The weather might keep the fighters at PH grounded...or maybe not.
That was the weather for the turn just passed - aka "today's" weather. The weather for the turn coming, the date shown in the top banner, is only a forecast and is shown via the "3" hot key or the "k" key.
D'oh! Well, that explains why the P-38's and P-40K's were AWOL. Maybe I should have read the manual.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment
"Weather forecast for tonight: dark. Continued dark overnight, with widely scattered light by morning."
G Carlin
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RE: With the Wren Detachment
There´s a German phrase:
Außergewöhnliche Situationen erfordern außergewöhnliche Maßnahmen.
(extraordinary situations call for extraordinary actions)
Maybe its time to use an asymetric approach now.
Is it possible to evacuate some of your guys via sub?
You might bring in some supplies and evac your wounded on the way back.
You seem to have a lot of subs in the area, which might be more help supplying your troops than to ambush JJs ships.
Is it possible to mine some of his ports, especially Broome? This might make JJ think twice about supplying his precious BBs there. Even some 20 mines could be enough to sink or damage one ship. This might even work as a kind of very little protection against the bombardment of your troops by BBs.
Do you have Catalinas with high experience? It was possible to use them on naval attack in the night. They were quite effective that way. This might force JJ to keep the carriers out of the attack range of the cats. This only worked in cooperation with subs sighting enemy ships in the nightphase.
Außergewöhnliche Situationen erfordern außergewöhnliche Maßnahmen.
(extraordinary situations call for extraordinary actions)
Maybe its time to use an asymetric approach now.
Is it possible to evacuate some of your guys via sub?
You might bring in some supplies and evac your wounded on the way back.
You seem to have a lot of subs in the area, which might be more help supplying your troops than to ambush JJs ships.
Is it possible to mine some of his ports, especially Broome? This might make JJ think twice about supplying his precious BBs there. Even some 20 mines could be enough to sink or damage one ship. This might even work as a kind of very little protection against the bombardment of your troops by BBs.
Do you have Catalinas with high experience? It was possible to use them on naval attack in the night. They were quite effective that way. This might force JJ to keep the carriers out of the attack range of the cats. This only worked in cooperation with subs sighting enemy ships in the nightphase.
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RE: With the Wren Detachment
We already have fragments of 2 Br Div, 22nd EAB and 32 ID at other locales in western Oz so if we lost the units in PH it wouldn't be the end of the world. However if we can ram some supplies into PH we tie down JJs units there. Then the capital ships go like buugery widdershins about Oz, pick up the ground units at Sydney and then do Darwin.
At least that's my idea, saner heads may prevail.
At least that's my idea, saner heads may prevail.
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RE: With the Wren Detachment
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Maybe I should have read the manual.
Heavens no!!! "All that booklearnin' is unseemly for an officer and gentleman."
....Gen. George Pickett in "The Killer Angels"
"The Yankees got all the smart ones, and look where it got them."
General George Pickett, the night before Gettysburg
General George Pickett, the night before Gettysburg
RE: With the Wren Detachment
The 28th Inf Reg offers hospitality to TWITs from Zulu HQ on a tour of the rear areas.

While you may find this a bit OT, There is a very interesting story about one of the characters here on the Reg website relating to officer material.[;)]

While you may find this a bit OT, There is a very interesting story about one of the characters here on the Reg website relating to officer material.[;)]
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RE: With the Wren Detachment
Turn off to the ether. I am pretty sure something is going to happen.
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RE: With the Wren Detachment
************Bali Hai Club, Perth, Nov 27, 1942***********
Man in fine linen slacks: <on phone> ...Oh, absolutely Mr. Honda, your boys are doing a splendid job, absolutely splendid. In fact, that's why I called. It seems the boys from Morelia have become so good at repairing bomb holes that the Japs are flying those Goddamn Tojos again.
...Yeah, that's right. We need you to ease off a bit to restore some equilibrium. You see, if one side wins then the gig is over and it's bad for the entereprise. Got it?
....Great. Here is my idea. Capt., err, Mr. Yossarian is going to fly in a union rep from the Longshoremen's Union. The guy is a pit bull. You pretend to oppose him, but not too hard. Just make it look good. Inside of a week your boys will be taking 45 minute cigarette breaks and half will call in sick on Mondays. Your productivity will fall by half....
....No, no, no. That's the whole point. Even better, I'll give you half the union dues. It's a win, win.....
Man in fine linen slacks: <on phone> ...Oh, absolutely Mr. Honda, your boys are doing a splendid job, absolutely splendid. In fact, that's why I called. It seems the boys from Morelia have become so good at repairing bomb holes that the Japs are flying those Goddamn Tojos again.
...Yeah, that's right. We need you to ease off a bit to restore some equilibrium. You see, if one side wins then the gig is over and it's bad for the entereprise. Got it?
....Great. Here is my idea. Capt., err, Mr. Yossarian is going to fly in a union rep from the Longshoremen's Union. The guy is a pit bull. You pretend to oppose him, but not too hard. Just make it look good. Inside of a week your boys will be taking 45 minute cigarette breaks and half will call in sick on Mondays. Your productivity will fall by half....
....No, no, no. That's the whole point. Even better, I'll give you half the union dues. It's a win, win.....

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I don't think "home run" quite does it justice..
It's a walk-off grand slam in the 7th game of the series in the last game of the career of a future Hall-of-Famer with a winning smile who doesn't sleep around or use "vitamins"...AND.... the ball flies 540 ft over the top tier, crashes through Mrs. O'leary's bakery shop window and comes to rest near the picture of her ganddaughter who needs surgey to regain her eyesight and now she can sell the ball, pay for the surgery, clsoe the shop and move down to Boca Raton.
It's a walk-off grand slam in the 7th game of the series in the last game of the career of a future Hall-of-Famer with a winning smile who doesn't sleep around or use "vitamins"...AND.... the ball flies 540 ft over the top tier, crashes through Mrs. O'leary's bakery shop window and comes to rest near the picture of her ganddaughter who needs surgey to regain her eyesight and now she can sell the ball, pay for the surgery, clsoe the shop and move down to Boca Raton.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment
10:40, Nov, 27.............
USN/RN battlewagons close on PH, finding poor Yamashiro, which has already been worked over by SBD's the day before. Jintsu is saved for a bit as the 14 inch shells pass through both sides of the hull and let teh water out the other side.
Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Hedland at 57,129, Range 10,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 26, and is sunk
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 48, and is sunk
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 1
CL Kiso, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Oi, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hayashio, Shell hits 1
DD Tanikaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Usugumo
DD Sawakaze, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Yugao
DD Tatsuyuke, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
Allied Ships
BB Colorado, Shell hits 7
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 4
BB Idaho
BB New Mexico, Shell hits 1
BB Revenge, Shell hits 5
DD Mahan, Shell hits 1
DD Bulmer
DD Jupiter
DD Norman, Shell hits 5, on fire
USN/RN battlewagons close on PH, finding poor Yamashiro, which has already been worked over by SBD's the day before. Jintsu is saved for a bit as the 14 inch shells pass through both sides of the hull and let teh water out the other side.
Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Hedland at 57,129, Range 10,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 26, and is sunk
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 48, and is sunk
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 1
CL Kiso, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Oi, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hayashio, Shell hits 1
DD Tanikaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Usugumo
DD Sawakaze, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Yugao
DD Tatsuyuke, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
Allied Ships
BB Colorado, Shell hits 7
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 4
BB Idaho
BB New Mexico, Shell hits 1
BB Revenge, Shell hits 5
DD Mahan, Shell hits 1
DD Bulmer
DD Jupiter
DD Norman, Shell hits 5, on fire

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RE: With the Wren Detachment
11:30 Nov 27....
A fresh Nagato and Furutaka do serious damage but Nagato is dinged up as well.
Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Hedland at 57,129, Range 8,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 1
CL Kuma
DD Hibiki
DD Shikinami
DD Asagiri, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
DD Sagiri, Shell hits 3, on fire
Allied Ships
BB Colorado, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 11, heavy fires
BB Idaho, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB New Mexico, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Revenge, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Mahan, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Bulmer, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Jupiter
DD Norman, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
A fresh Nagato and Furutaka do serious damage but Nagato is dinged up as well.
Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Hedland at 57,129, Range 8,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 1
CL Kuma
DD Hibiki
DD Shikinami
DD Asagiri, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
DD Sagiri, Shell hits 3, on fire
Allied Ships
BB Colorado, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 11, heavy fires
BB Idaho, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB New Mexico, Shell hits 2, on fire
BB Revenge, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Mahan, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Bulmer, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Jupiter
DD Norman, Shell hits 2, heavy fires

RE: With the Wren Detachment
Great result CM! Here's hoping your BBs escape without too much retribution!
It's been a long AAR so I can't remember all the results you have on LYB capital ships sunk. Could you post a screenshot of the Intel screen on sunk IJN warships, at least CV/BB/CA types?
It's been a long AAR so I can't remember all the results you have on LYB capital ships sunk. Could you post a screenshot of the Intel screen on sunk IJN warships, at least CV/BB/CA types?
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RE: With the Wren Detachment
00:20 Nov 28...
The Allied BB's now look like the Newport Beach Christmas Boat Parade. They evade combat using radar.....
Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Hedland at 57,128, Range 26,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CA Atago
CA Haguro
DD Akizuki
DD Makinami
DD Arashio
DD Natsugumo
DD Murasame
Allied Ships
BB Colorado, on fire
BB Pennsylvania, heavy fires
BB Idaho, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB New Mexico, on fire
BB Revenge, on fire
DD Mahan, on fire
DD Bulmer, on fire
DD Jupiter
DD Norman, heavy fires
The Allied BB's now look like the Newport Beach Christmas Boat Parade. They evade combat using radar.....
Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Hedland at 57,128, Range 26,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CA Atago
CA Haguro
DD Akizuki
DD Makinami
DD Arashio
DD Natsugumo
DD Murasame
Allied Ships
BB Colorado, on fire
BB Pennsylvania, heavy fires
BB Idaho, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB New Mexico, on fire
BB Revenge, on fire
DD Mahan, on fire
DD Bulmer, on fire
DD Jupiter
DD Norman, heavy fires

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Great result CM! Here's hoping your BBs escape without too much retribution!
It's been a long AAR so I can't remember all the results you have on LYB capital ships sunk. Could you post a screenshot of the Intel screen on sunk IJN warships, at least CV/BB/CA types?
You havent seent he good part yet. [:)] The ball is still arcing upward. Can definitely post some intel screens when I get home..or perhaps Admiral Lord Sprior can if he hasn't had to much Chateau de Whatever.

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01:00 Nov 28...
Report of the demise of Hyuga have been greatly overstated....until now...that is four torps now.
Submarine attack near Port Hedland at 59,128
Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS KXIV
BB Hyuga is sighted by SS KXIV
SS KXIV launches 6 torpedoes
Report of the demise of Hyuga have been greatly overstated....until now...that is four torps now.
Submarine attack near Port Hedland at 59,128
Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS KXIV
BB Hyuga is sighted by SS KXIV
SS KXIV launches 6 torpedoes






