BB Ammo Replenishment

[freeboy]

wow flame bait = me
So, I am not talking about reloading a 16 or 18 inch gun in a port 2..
I am refering to the NOT realistic method of calculations whering even in large port.. where given enough time a 16 or 18 inch shell could be moved and stored onboard...
so are you really telling me in a size 6 or 7 port a crane could not hoist one of these? Its a matter of time..
 and balance [X(]

[AW1Steve]

All I'm suggesting is that you have a lot more "holes" (hatches) and bigger ones in a carrier than a surface combat ship (or a submarine) . More doors, bigger doors =more stuff can come in faster than smaller doors , and less doors.But I don't know anything about anything . I was trying to do something unusual and there fore stupid. I was trying to use "common sense" to reason it out.

I'm sure you are right. Obviously the standard answer must be the right one. The game is simply borked.

BTW , you can't be flame bait. That has been my job lately. [:D]

[freeboy]

well, there is a strong cadre of " we really like detail" folks here.. and God bless them, its just not my area of enjoyment, I like the big pix stuff.. so when we  cannot do something and the game makes things harder, I percievet the love is way over on the other  side... now where is my mine laying cv? lol [>:]

[Disco Duck]

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

I have a suggestion about why a CV would re-arm faster than a BB , but I'm hesitant to mention it. I'm almost afraid that before the elctrons are dry, some gray beard master chief is going to attack and insult my knowledge, understanding and even my man hood. But I'm going to make my suggestion after a couple of disclaimers.

1) Although I did serve in the USN/USNR , I never served on a Carrier, cruiser,destroyer,battleship or any thing else that floats , except a brief TDY assignment to a Frigate , and that ship (USS Constition) never left the pier so that doesn't count. (In my defense, no one took Boston while I was aboard her).
2) I've never been a master chief,Senior chief, indian chief,fire chief,chief chef,or any other kind of chief (except in boot camp I briefly became the "chief scullery minion").I don't know why, but for some reason that title, the phrase "I was there and you weren't" or "I read it in a book" all seem to have great magic power on these forums. I don't have or do magic. Go find a unicorn.
3) In short, I don't know nothing about nothing (This was said to save critics some time).

What I have noticed by working around various ships , including CVN's,DD's etc, (And living in a USN shipyard for two years where I watched refits on everything from SSN's to CVN's) is that CV's seem to load much faster than subs and surface ships as a result of handing space and handling devices. I've noticed that both during UNREPS (yes, I've watched a few) and from shore , carriers have massive wide open spaces (flight decks) that "stuff" can be stacked on and "dumped' (yes I know these are not correct Naval terms) to be "put away" later and quickly. A sub has one door way (Hatch, hole, passageway , whatever) that EVERYTHING has to go down and then someone has to find a "Home" for it. To a lesser degree , this is also true of surfaceships.

A carrier can (when shoreside) have a railroad car (or a truck container) hoisted aboard .Then as there are lots of devices for bringing "stuff" up (Airplane lifts/elevators, bomb lifts/elevators etc) which are designed to move big "Stuff" below rather quickly. I've never loaded a ship (or unloaded) but I've unloaded hundreds of trucks , and one thing I've noticed is that a palletized cargo can be unloaded VERY rapidly, where a UPS style, one box at a time loaded truck takes quite a bit longer.

As I said before , I've NO expertise on anything , but could this be a plausible explaination why CV's load faster than BB's? [&:]

I have been on two WWII battleships. North Carolina and Massachusetts. Neither had very many openings. And no cranes to speak of. I am sure that before their retrofits to handle helicopters there were cranes to handle the float planes. Those could not have been used to load the forward guns. The deck hatches were intentionally as small as possible for integrity reasons. I have looked on the internet in vain for anything on underway supply replenishment. I have found some interesting documents on refueling at sea. But that is not the subject here.

[bradfordkay]

I know that on the old WITP forum (or was it the UV forum?) somebody posted a photo of 16" shells being passed to a BB from an AE in a UNREP situation. It looked pretty precarious to my untrained eyes, but it was done.

[Marcus_Antonius]

In my current game, I am regularly rearming the Yamato from a level 5 port with 3 AKE's present and a fleet HQ with other naval support totalling 360 and a huge pile of supply.

It can be done.

The restrictions on rearming mostly force the player into planning ahead and organizing resupply points in areas where you want a larger ship to operate. I think it works pretty well in the game.

Could a large BB rearm in a small port if it absolutely had to? I am sure it could, but then you would need to take the game in the direction of tracking where different calibers of rounds are being stored...

ORIGINAL: Shark7

And if it is Yamato or Musashi, you might as well plot a course back to a level 9 port, no AE/AKE is big enough to reload those 2.