Sherman preferred to "Tiger"?

[SLAAKMAN]

Wow.

We're doomed.

Is there anyone that WASN'T named in that (for lack of a better term) article?

Nate

Squeal!!! [:'(]

[decaro]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

No doubting the contribution of the US and the USSR in defeating the Axis. But the war was won by the Commonwealth too; the contribution of the Commonwealth nations is too easily forgotten by some.

At least they contributed a bigger gun to the Sherman, but why call it "Firefly"?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Joe D.

ORIGINAL: warspite1

No doubting the contribution of the US and the USSR in defeating the Axis. But the war was won by the Commonwealth too; the contribution of the Commonwealth nations is too easily forgotten by some.

At least they contributed a bigger gun to the Sherman, but why call it "Firefly"?

Warspite1

Not quite what I meant but true enough. Hey, look at my 17-pdr!

As far as why it was called a Firefly is concerned - I have no idea. Anybody?

[Josh]

"...As far as why it was called a Firefly is concerned - I have no idea. Anybody?..."
 
Good question really, no clue [&:] Anybody?? 

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: Josh

"...As far as why it was called a Firefly is concerned - I have no idea. Anybody?..."

Good question really, no clue [&:] Anybody?? 

Seems that the nickname Firefly was not commonly used during WWII.

Cut from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Firefly
The nickname "Firefly" is not found in wartime official documents. It was sometimes used at unit level (Brigade/Regiment) war diaries from March 1944, with another nickname being 'Mayfly'. During the war, Shermans with 17 pounder guns were usually known as '1C', '1C Hybrid', or 'VC', depending on the basic mark of the vehicle. In British nomenclature, a "C" at the end of the Roman numeral indicated a tank equipped with the 17 pounder.

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN

Wow.

We're doomed.

Is there anyone that WASN'T named in that (for lack of a better term) article?

Nate

Squeal!!! [:'(]

SLAAKER, your mom called and said you left home without taking certain MEDS. [:(]

[michael1776]

I would like to know what the "Great Bismark Debate" centered around? Not to start beating what, for some, is a dead horse.

-MJ

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: michael1776

I would like to know what the "Great Bismark Debate" centered around? Not to start beating what, for some, is a dead horse.

-MJ

So it has come to this...[:'(]

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: michael1776

I would like to know what the "Great Bismark Debate" centered around? Not to start beating what, for some, is a dead horse.

-MJ

Warspite1

It's a long running debate that visits these forums from time to time. Someone says Bismarck is the capital of South Dakota, then someone chimes in with "oh no it isn't, it's North Dakota" - and it all goes downhill from there.

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: michael1776

I would like to know what the "Great Bismark Debate" centered around? Not to start beating what, for some, is a dead horse.

-MJ

Warspite1

It's a long running debate that visits these forums from time to time. Someone says Bismarck is the capital of South Dakota, then someone chimes in with "oh no it isn't, it's North Dakota" - and it all goes downhill from there.

AAHHHAAHAHA. ROTFLMAO.

But of course everyone in America knows Bismarck is the capitol of Alaska. The Dakota's--how silly warspite1.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: parusski

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: michael1776

I would like to know what the "Great Bismark Debate" centered around? Not to start
beating what, for some, is a dead horse.

-MJ

Warspite1

It's a long running debate that visits these forums from time to time. Someone says Bismarck is the capital of South Dakota, then someone chimes in with "oh no it isn't, it's North Dakota" - and it all goes downhill from there.

AAHHHAAHAHA. ROTFLMAO.

But of course everyone in America knows Bismarck is the capitol of Alaska. The Dakota's--how silly warspite1.

Warspite1

Alaska? Oh not it isn't, it is Lansing. Duh....

[parusski]

Warspite1

Alaska? Oh not it isn't, it is Lansing. Duh....

OOPS. Easy to mix up states no one lives in anyway.

[decaro]

ORIGINAL: michael1776

I would like to know what the "Great Bismark Debate" centered around? ...

I bet it included the controversy over how it actually sunk, i.e., the crew opening the valves to scuttle their own ship?

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: michael1776

I would like to know what the "Great Bismark Debate" centered around? Not to start beating what, for some, is a dead horse.

-MJ

Warspite1

It's a long running debate that visits these forums from time to time. Someone says Bismarck is the capital of South Dakota, then someone chimes in with "oh no it isn't, it's North Dakota" - and it all goes downhill from there.

Who cares if it is the north or south part of Dakota? Bismarck is a city in Dakota and that is that. It might even be enough to say Bismarck, USA.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: michael1776

I would like to know what the "Great Bismark Debate" centered around? Not to start beating what, for some, is a dead horse.

-MJ

Warspite1

It's a long running debate that visits these forums from time to time. Someone says Bismarck is the capital of South Dakota, then someone chimes in with "oh no it isn't, it's North Dakota" - and it all goes downhill from there.

Who cares if it is the north or south part of Dakota? Bismarck is a city in Dakota and that is that. It might even be enough to say Bismarck, USA.

Warspite1

You see Michael1776, i prove my point; this comment above is just plain trolling. it always happens with the Bismarck thread. Naughty Orm [:-]

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Joe D.

ORIGINAL: michael1776

I would like to know what the "Great Bismark Debate" centered around? ...

I bet it included the controversy over how it actually sunk, i.e., the crew opening the valves to scuttle their own ship?

Warspite1

On a more serious note, yes I suspect that is what it is. The "debate" most recently resurfaced in the World In Flames thread if you want to have a look; Bismarck - Why Does It Matter? [&:][:@][8|][:-]

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1


Warspite1

It's a long running debate that visits these forums from time to time. Someone says Bismarck is the capital of South Dakota, then someone chimes in with "oh no it isn't, it's North Dakota" - and it all goes downhill from there.

Who cares if it is the north or south part of Dakota? Bismarck is a city in Dakota and that is that. It might even be enough to say Bismarck, USA.

Warspite1

You see Michael1776, i prove my point; this comment above is just plain trolling. it always happens with the Bismarck thread. Naughty Orm [:-]

Yes, I confess.[:)] I joined your trolling club warspite1. [;)]

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Joe D.

ORIGINAL: michael1776

I would like to know what the "Great Bismark Debate" centered around? ...

I bet it included the controversy over how it actually sunk, i.e., the crew opening the valves to scuttle their own ship?

Warspite1

On a more serious note, yes I suspect that is what it is. The "debate" most recently resurfaced in the World In Flames thread if you want to have a look; Bismarck - Why Does It Matter? [&:][:@][8|][:-]

Yes. I was stupid (brave?) enough to ask about the Bismarck controversy and why it matters. Thankfully I got only nice answers explaining things to me. [:)]

Anyway. Here is a link to that thread. Bismarck - Why does it matter?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Joe D.



I bet it included the controversy over how it actually sunk, i.e., the crew opening the valves to scuttle their own ship?

Warspite1

On a more serious note, yes I suspect that is what it is. The "debate" most recently resurfaced in the World In Flames thread if you want to have a look; Bismarck - Why

Does It Matter? [&:][:@][8|][:-]

Yes. I was stupid (brave?) enough to ask about the Bismarck controversy and why it matters. Thankfully I got only nice answers explaining things to me. [:)]

Anyway. Here is a link to that thread. Bismarck - Why does it matter?

Warspite1

I don't think it was either brave or stupid. It was an honest ask. But - as is always the case - it got some ridiculous answers.....

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: michael1776

I would like to know what the "Great Bismark Debate" centered around? Not to start beating what, for some, is a dead horse.

-MJ

Warspite1

It's a long running debate that visits these forums from time to time. Someone says Bismarck is the capital of South Dakota, then someone chimes in with "oh no it isn't, it's North Dakota" - and it all goes downhill from there.

Who cares if it is the north or south part of Dakota? Bismarck is a city in Dakota and that is that. It might even be enough to say Bismarck, USA.

Orm, you obviously have not read the 1981 book by Ambrose - BISMARCK, THE ILLUSION OF THE AGES, in which he writes: "Many people make the mistake of thinking the Great Bismark Debate referred to some obscure naval battle. But it does NOT. The Great Bismark debate is really about the safe storage of Brazilian Peanut Butter. It was just a secret code used by the U.S. military to prevent the Bora Boran's from stealing the BPB recipe."