Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor troy (A)

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor troy (A)

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 02, 42
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ASW attack near Koepang at 68,116

Japanese Ships
DD Tachikaze
DD Asagao

Allied Ships
SS S-38

not sure but I guess we haven't hit an enemy DD yet...

SS S-38 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Tachikaze
S-38 bottoming out ....
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Amphibious Assault at Tandjoengselor (68,92)

TF 202 troops unloading over beach at Tandjoengselor, 68,92





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Morning Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 6000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 2



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 6000 feet

for what reason ever, bluebook keeps sweeping Tarakan...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 78,77

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 12



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
PT-41
PT-35



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 22
Ki-30 Ann x 28
Ki-36 Ida x 11
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 23
Ki-51 Sonia x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 3 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
28 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
11 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 35,810 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9



Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 63


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses

after the enemy CV strike a week ago encountered two dozen Warhawks at Darwin the enemy now sends some sweep from Koepang... the Zeroes are horrible outnumbered with 63 out of exactly 100 P-40 on Cap and even though they get their strato dive it only last for two passes... then the Zeroes are shred by our fighters... Koepang -> Darwin = a looong way to fly, which means trouble for any damaged aircraft... 2/3 of the attacking Zeroes are lost...


CAP engaged:
3rd PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
17th PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
20th PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
33rd PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Singapore Fortress, at 50,84 (Singapore)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 62



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
36 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 38



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 15 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 42,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 31



Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 55


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed

the Zeroes weren't the only sweep and a big number of Oscars shows up too, amazed they got the range to get from Keopang to Darwin... the Oscars did far better as their strato dive lasted for something like two dozen passes which accounted for 7 P-40 instantly shot down for no loss for the strato sweepers... only as the dive ended we also saw the firing from behind passes to end and then the Oscars suffered from being totally undergunned, not even able to damage the Warhawks... near every burst from the Warhawks resulted in an Oscar falling from the sky which lead to a 2:1 in favour of the P-40 as quite a couple of Oscars crashed on their way home... guess we were able to take down 18-20 enemy aircraft for the loss of 10 Warhawks which is quite a good result considering the date... together with the AVG those 4 P-40E squadrons are flown by the best currently available fighter pilots though so every other squadron should do worse... don't think bluebook will come back with another sweep...

CAP engaged:
3rd PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
17th PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
20th PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
33rd PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 26950 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 5
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 20



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 5 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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ASW attack near Koepang at 68,116

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Kongo

CA Atago
DD Asashio
TB Kamo
DD Arashio
DD Oshio

Allied Ships
SS KXII, hits 4

interesting intel but a succesful attack on an enemy capital ship would be about time as the enemy has been running with carriers, battleships and cruisers over my subs on a near daily basis... does Kongo and Haruna mean KB being around? Guess not when I see a TB in the same task force which seems a little strange to me...


SS KXII is sighted by escort
DD Arashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Oshio fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashio attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub


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Amphibious Assault at Manokwari (85,109)

TF 120 troops unloading over beach at Manokwari, 85,109

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 8th Indpt SNLF Coy


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Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)

Japanese Deliberate attack


Attacking force 46943 troops, 404 guns, 483 vehicles, Assault Value = 1602

Defending force 74252 troops, 1026 guns, 712 vehicles, Assault Value = 2398

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 744

Allied adjusted defense: 7855 [:D]

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 10 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
6677 casualties reported
Squads: 42 destroyed, 353 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 80 disabled
Engineers: 92 destroyed, 127 disabled
Guns lost 61 (7 destroyed, 54 disabled)
Vehicles lost 84 (23 destroyed, 61 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1305 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 136 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 43 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 26 disabled
Guns lost 20 (1 destroyed, 19 disabled)

lots of interesting stuff going on this turn, I was absolutely surprised by this attack at Clark Field, bluebook knew that I would have more than 2000 av at the base and when I asked about what this was, he answered that he has to start wearing me down at some point... well, I like that... though a pity they managed to take down a fort on their first attempt already... guess without reinforcements from Singergrad he won't take the place anytime soon... and when looking at the assault there, then this should become even more bloody for the enemy... those attacking eng rgt should look horrible now...

if we sum up what the enemy has been using so far, there were 3100 av attacking Singergrad, 1600 av are attacking Clark Field and two enemy divisions were attacking the South Pacific, which makes roughly another 1100 av if you add in the SNLF and Navguard units being used for SOPAC, making it a total of 5800 av! [X(] Isn't that near double from what ppl told me the Japanese got at hand? Wow, it definitely is surely 1000 av more than I would have expected...




Assaulting units:
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment
20th Division
16th Engineer Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
48th Division
9th Infantry Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
21st Ind. Engineer Regiment
65th Brigade
4th Tank Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
14th Army
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
51st PA Infantry Division
31st PA Infantry Division
3rd/12th PA Inf Battalion
14th PS Engineer Regiment
57th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team
41st PA Infantry Division
31st Infantry Regiment
93rd PA Infantry Regiment
81st PA Infantry Division
21st PA Infantry Division
4th Marine Regiment
11th PA Infantry Division
45th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team
194th Tank Battalion
61st PA Infantry Division
1st PA Infantry Division
192nd Tank Battalion
2nd PA Constabulary Division
73rd PA Infantry Regiment
71st PA Infantry Division
4th/101st PA Battalion
86th PS Coastal Artillery Battalion
Bataan USN Base Force
I Philippine Corps
Provisional GMC Grp
202nd PA Construction Battalion
803rd Engineer Aviation Battalion
Asiatic Fleet
201st PA Construction Battalion
Far East USAAF
Manila USAAF Base Force
1st PI Base Force
Clark Field USAAF Base Force
1st USMC AA Battalion
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
301st Construction Battalion
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment
II Philippine Corps
PAF Aviation
USAFFE
301st PA Field Artillery Regiment


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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10056 troops, 365 guns, 56 vehicles, Assault Value = 2071

Defending force 39822 troops, 439 guns, 288 vehicles, Assault Value = 339

Japanese ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
124 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
11th Infantry Regiment
113th Infantry Regiment
42nd Infantry Regiment
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
2nd Engineer Regiment
33rd Division
148th Infantry Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
56th Engineer Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
2nd Recon Regiment
15th Ind. Engineer Regiment
21st Division
12th Engineer Regiment
56th Infantry Regiment
41st Infantry Regiment
56th Recon Regiment
55th Infantry Regiment
21st Infantry Regiment
II./4th Infantry Battalion
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
5th Engineer Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
56th Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
84th JAAF AF Bn
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Mortar Battalion
25th Army
1st Raiding Rgt /2

Defending units:
27th Australian Brigade
11th Indian Division
SSVF Brigade
9th Indian Division
223 Group RAF
2nd Gordons Battalion
1st Manchester Battalion
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
Malaya Army
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
AHQ Far East
3rd HK&S Light AA Regiment
22nd Australian Brigade
Malayan Air Wing
1st ISF Base Force
112th RAF Base Force
224 Group RAF
III Indian Corps
Singapore Base Force
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
Singapore Fortress
109th RAF Base Force
2nd Loyal Battalion
1st Malay Battalion
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
2nd ISF Base Force
FMSV Brigade
1st Hyderabad Battalion
110th RAF Base Force
111th RAF Base Force
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd Malay Battalion
109th RN Base Force


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Ground combat at Efate (120,154)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 378 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 16

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 16 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Efate !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:



Assaulting units:
5th Indpt SNLF Coy



and some intel again:

I./124th Infantry Battalion is loaded on a Aden Cargo class xAK moving to Cagayan.

reinforcements for the fight against my guerillas in Mindanao's mountains...


12/38th/C Division is loaded on a Japanese TK moving to Noumea.
3/35th JNAF AF Unit is loaded on xAK Yamahuku Maru moving to Suva.
5/4th/C Division is loaded on xAK Lima Maru moving to Suva.
1/4th/C Division is loaded on AMC Asaka Maru moving to Suva.


and two divs plus aviation support reported for SOPAC...


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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor troy (A)

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I completely expect Singapore to fall to the next deliberate attack.  Most of your units seem to be below 50% TOE and his raw av is enough higher that I'd anticipate a surrender at the next rested DA (and be quite happy to live past the attack if I did).  I don't expect the bombings to have any significant effect on that outcome (and may, in fact, be a waste of planes at this point in the battle.  If it were me, I think bombing your airfield to reduce supply would be the more tactically useful option while doing the same to keep the forts down).

I'd probably feel the same against Clark Field if it were me, tbh.  I have no experience at it, but I know from the other side that it's fairly easy to kill off my supply with bombing raids (to hit supply bases and waste tons of supplies on the AA side of things).  To me, there's not much need to rush the anywhere in that theater.  I'd be perfectly happy to let your Malaybalay garrison starve after I closed the hexsides.  I'd bet a brigade with a couple of fort levels could keep you locked there permanently if the hex sides were closed.  That garrison would then be convenient bomber training for the next couple years (not that I think there's a better use of those troops as the Allies, but I think Japanese players tend to want to liquidate the pocket too quickly.  I see little advantage to the Allied player even if the pocket holds a year or two.  It can't really be reinforced unless the war is already won.  By the time the Japanese player brings in adequate reinforcements in 1942, they probably could have closed off the hex and made it a prison camp with forces already tasked for the area (at least in my inexperienced opinion).  Same if you form a dutch pocket in the mountains in Java.  While it takes a lot to liquidate it actively in 1942, very little force is needed to keep it trapped once the hex sides are closed.   I think it pays off against a lot of players, but against a player who anticipates and recons it, I think little fortresses in expected places could end up freeing more av faster.
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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor troy (A)

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ORIGINAL: Schlemiel

I completely expect Singapore to fall to the next deliberate attack.  Most of your units seem to be below 50% TOE and his raw av is enough higher that I'd anticipate a surrender at the next rested DA (and be quite happy to live past the attack if I did).  I don't expect the bombings to have any significant effect on that outcome (and may, in fact, be a waste of planes at this point in the battle.  If it were me, I think bombing your airfield to reduce supply would be the more tactically useful option while doing the same to keep the forts down).

I'd probably feel the same against Clark Field if it were me, tbh.  I have no experience at it, but I know from the other side that it's fairly easy to kill off my supply with bombing raids (to hit supply bases and waste tons of supplies on the AA side of things).  To me, there's not much need to rush the anywhere in that theater.  I'd be perfectly happy to let your Malaybalay garrison starve after I closed the hexsides.  I'd bet a brigade with a couple of fort levels could keep you locked there permanently if the hex sides were closed.  That garrison would then be convenient bomber training for the next couple years (not that I think there's a better use of those troops as the Allies, but I think Japanese players tend to want to liquidate the pocket too quickly.  I see little advantage to the Allied player even if the pocket holds a year or two.  It can't really be reinforced unless the war is already won.  By the time the Japanese player brings in adequate reinforcements in 1942, they probably could have closed off the hex and made it a prison camp with forces already tasked for the area (at least in my inexperienced opinion).  Same if you form a dutch pocket in the mountains in Java.  While it takes a lot to liquidate it actively in 1942, very little force is needed to keep it trapped once the hex sides are closed.   I think it pays off against a lot of players, but against a player who anticipates and recons it, I think little fortresses in expected places could end up freeing more av faster.


Singergrad's defenders did/do very well IMO. We face a huge Army and inflicted severe losses to the enemy and delayed him a multiple of the time he expected to take the base. Yes, ground bombing has not done anything to my units. As to the attacks on the airfield, bluebook made a mistake in not flying enough airfield attacks early on so I was able to rebuild a fort level two or three times which made it even more difficult for him to overcome my defenders. Supplies are no problem, there are still more than 30000 at the base, nearly halve of what we had at start and I don't know exactly how many went into fort construction but I guess something like 15-20000. So if we take the deliberate attacks into account, the ground battles and the airattacks have not cost more than another 20000.

If the enemy has to leave a bgd on Mindanao to keep my guerillas in place then this sounds perfectly fine to me. Same for Clark Field and Java, if he doesn't kill off those strongholds then he has to use something like 2000-2500 av in total as prison guards and this would be just great as it would only leave him with those 2000 av that are left at Singergrad and 1000 in SOPAC for further offensive operations and this sounds far better to me than to face 6000 av in two or three months. Little fortresses do literally nothing, just compare a defense of Malaya with those little fortresses against an advancing Army of 3100 av with my defense of Singerpore only. The 3100 av would just roll over over any 2-300 av defense without taking any notable damage while my defense of Singerpore caused 600 combat squads destroyed and something like 1500-2000 disabled, while the disabled ones are recovered rather fast. I don't think a delaying defense on the peninsula could have done that, nor do I think it would have taken the enemy nearly as long to take Singerpore as it does now. To be honest, bluebook seems quite frustrated about his Singergrad adventure. [:D] If he decides to ignore my pockets he will find out that I am able to do some offensive with 2500 av if he lets me and he wouldn't be the first one to have his troops kicked around on the Philipines when he underestimates what a shock attack can do.
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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor troy (A)

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 03, 42
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Sub attack near Koepang at 68,116

Japanese Ships
xAK Nisso Maru
DD Yukaze

Allied Ships
SS Trusty, hits 3


missed... with a 70/70 crew, a good skipper and 8 forward torp tubes Trusty should be our best sub in theory...

SS Trusty launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Nisso Maru
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yukaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yukaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Amphibious Assault at Eua (138,169)

TF 237 troops unloading over beach at Eua, 138,169





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ASW attack near Larantoeka at 68,114

Japanese Ships
xAKL Tensyo Maru
PB Chohakusan Maru

Allied Ships
SS S-38



SS S-38 is sighted by escort
PB Chohakusan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Chohakusan Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Chohakusan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Chohakusan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Chohakusan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Morning Air attack on Singapore Fortress, at 50,84 (Singapore)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 6
G3M2 Nell x 43
G4M1 Betty x 36



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 2 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
36 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
36 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
7 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
3 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
3 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking Singapore Base Force ...
Also attacking 11th Indian Division ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Singapore Base Force ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 78,77

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 12



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
PT-35
PT Q-113
PT Q-111



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 9th Indian Division, at 50,84 (Singapore)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 62



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
35 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

like I've said before, these attacks do literally nothing, the units are near no disruption... don't know if it really does something in terms of supply, one thing is for sure though, the enemy spends more supply flying those ground attacks than it costs us supply...

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 85
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 32



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 26 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 7 damaged


Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 30

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
7 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
20 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking Malayan Air Wing ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking 27th Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking 223 Group RAF ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking 22nd Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking 111th RAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking III Indian Corps ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Singapore ...


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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 9



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 5 damaged


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking AHQ Far East ...
Also attacking SSVF Brigade ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Saumlaki at 78,117

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 5


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAKL Kidokawa Maru, Bomb hits 1
xAKL Hakuyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

have spotted another small convoy which was ordered to move to Saumlaki... we move 40+ Marauders to PM and a whopping 5!!!! attack... all bombers found the target no other bombers even took off... have to get used to the halved effect of bombs, meaning those xAKL take damage as if they would have been hit by a 250lb bomb, making one bomb hit not enough to sink them...

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Saumlaki at 78,117

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 5


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAKL Hanakawa Maru
PB Kure Maru #5, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


same as in the morning, only 5 bombers attack (12%)... the TF was spotted having 6 ships, all full of troops... wonder which real life commander wouldn't have sent all his available bombers to attack such a convoy that is going into a vital area... would really love to have more influence on target selection...



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb



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Amphibious Assault at Rangiroa (177,174)

TF 32 troops unloading over beach at Rangiroa, 177,174



12 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 51st Nav Gd

and here's the NavGd to take Saumlaki... would we have seen our 40 available bombers attack the unit would have been sunk together with the ships... we manage to sink a PB and damage two xAKL...

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Amphibious Assault at Saumlaki (78,117)

TF 214 troops unloading over beach at Saumlaki, 78,117




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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10474 troops, 403 guns, 56 vehicles, Assault Value = 2129

Defending force 39897 troops, 439 guns, 288 vehicles, Assault Value = 341

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

the enemy still recovers his strenght and another day passes with Singergrad still being Allied... [:D]


Assaulting units:
11th Infantry Regiment
56th Infantry Regiment
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd Recon Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
42nd Infantry Regiment
56th Engineer Regiment
21st Infantry Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment
II./4th Infantry Battalion
55th Infantry Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
113th Infantry Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
15th Ind. Engineer Regiment
41st Infantry Regiment
56th Recon Regiment
2nd Engineer Regiment
21st Division
33rd Division
12th Engineer Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
5th Engineer Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
84th JAAF AF Bn
1st RF Gun Battalion
56th Field Artillery Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Mortar Battalion
25th Army
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Field Artillery Regiment
1st Raiding Rgt /2

Defending units:
SSVF Brigade
27th Australian Brigade
11th Indian Division
9th Indian Division
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
110th RAF Base Force
3rd HK&S Light AA Regiment
1st Malay Battalion
2nd ISF Base Force
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
2nd Gordons Battalion
22nd Australian Brigade
2nd Loyal Battalion
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
Singapore Base Force
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
2nd Malay Battalion
AHQ Far East
1st ISF Base Force
223 Group RAF
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
224 Group RAF
109th RAF Base Force
Malayan Air Wing
1st Hyderabad Battalion
Malaya Army
112th RAF Base Force
111th RAF Base Force
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
III Indian Corps
FMSV Brigade
Singapore Fortress
1st Manchester Battalion
109th RN Base Force


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Ground combat at Tandjoengselor (68,92)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 444 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 5

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tandjoengselor !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-), fatigue(-)



Assaulting units:
III/66th Naval Guard Unit


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Ground combat at Manokwari (85,109)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 361 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 15

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 8

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Manokwari !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
8th Indpt SNLF Coy


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Ground combat at Rangiroa (177,174)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1247 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 25

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 7

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Rangiroa !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), supply(-)



Assaulting units:
51st Naval Guard Unit



transferred 24 B-17E today, result were 3 lost to ops... so much about the 4E bombers... crews had no fat, range was a whopping 9 hexes... we lose a weekly production...


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 04, 42
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Sub attack near Victoria at 206,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-19, hits 1

Allied Ships
xAKL Coloradan, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAKL Kentuckian
AM Wasaga

enemy sub sitting off the West Coast, waiting for my rare convoys coming from Seattle...

SS I-19 launches 2 torpedoes at xAKL Coloradan
I-19 diving deep ....
AM Wasaga fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Wasaga attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-19 eludes ASW attack from AM Wasaga
AM Wasaga fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Wasaga fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Wasaga fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Kendari at 70,106

Japanese Ships
xAK Bunzan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
SS Argonaut


we take revenge in sinking a bigger freighter, Argonaut was on minelaying mission...

SS Argonaut launches 2 torpedoes


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Sub attack near Koepang at 68,116

Japanese Ships
DD Sawakaze
xAK Nisso Maru

Allied Ships
SS Trusty, hits 5

Trusty is out of action now, has to retire to repair 10 sys... a failed patrol...


SS Trusty launches 2 torpedoes at DD Sawakaze
DD Sawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sawakaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Sawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Amphibious Assault at Misool (80,108)

TF 13 troops unloading over beach at Misool, 80,108





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Amphibious Assault at Sampit (58,97)

TF 258 troops unloading over beach at Sampit, 58,97





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TF 88 encounters mine field at Kendari (70,106)

Japanese Ships
xAK Bunzan Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

the already sinking Bunzan Maru then hit a mine that finished her...


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Sub attack near Koepang at 68,116

Japanese Ships
xAKL Tohuku Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Oigawa Maru
xAKL Oridono Maru
PB Chohakusan Maru

Allied Ships
SS S-37

we get another small freighter at Koepang, succesful submerged attack... thank god there was an enemy escort...

SS S-37 launches 2 torpedoes at xAKL Tohuku Maru
S-37 bottoming out ....
PB Chohakusan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Chohakusan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Chohakusan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Chohakusan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Chohakusan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Morning Air attack on Singapore Fortress, at 50,84 (Singapore)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 36



Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
36 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
36 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 9th Indian Division, at 50,84 (Singapore)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 8



Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 5 damaged


Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
8 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 105 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 22
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 24



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 3 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Singapore Base Force, at 50,84 (Singapore)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 34
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 17



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 5 damaged


Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
17 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
16 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 27th Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Malaya Army ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Singapore Base Force ...
Also attacking 27th Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking Singapore Base Force ...
Also attacking Malaya Army ...
Also attacking Singapore Base Force ...
Also attacking 27th Australian Brigade ...


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Afternoon Air attack on Singapore Base Force, at 50,84 (Singapore)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 61



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
34 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 25
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 20



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 12 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 6 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 destroyed by flak


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
20 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 18



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 5 damaged



Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb


not sure if there are any enemy bombers anywhere else than near Singapore and Clark Field...

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Afternoon Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 97 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 28
Ki-36 Ida x 11
Ki-51 Sonia x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
11 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb



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Amphibious Assault at Cocos Islands (33,101)

TF 72 troops unloading over beach at Cocos Islands, 33,101

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)



7.7mm T99 AAMG accidentally lost during unload of 22nd JAAF AF Bn
Sound Detector (J) lost overboard during unload of 22nd JAAF AF Bn
Observor Squad damaged beyond repair during unload of 22nd JAAF AF Bn
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 22nd JAAF AF Bn
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 22nd JAAF AF Bn
7.7mm T99 AAMG lost from landing craft during unload of 22nd JAAF AF Bn
12 Aviation Support troops lost in surf during unload of 22nd JAAF AF Bn


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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Deliberate attack


Attacking force 82281 troops, 953 guns, 330 vehicles, Assault Value = 2208

Defending force 40028 troops, 438 guns, 288 vehicles, Assault Value = 352

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 1628

Allied adjusted defense: 925

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1) [:D]

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2071 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 163 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 57 disabled
Guns lost 37 (1 destroyed, 36 disabled)
Vehicles lost 15 (2 destroyed, 13 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
3119 casualties reported
Squads: 195 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 26 destroyed, 225 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 50 disabled
Guns lost 78 (10 destroyed, 68 disabled)
Vehicles lost 50 (5 destroyed, 45 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

who said Singergrad would surrender already? we repell attack number 7 IIRC... not surprising we don't do much damage anymore but still... bluebook didn't like it... [;)]

Assaulting units:
2nd Recon Regiment
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
41st Infantry Regiment
2nd Engineer Regiment
56th Engineer Regiment
113th Infantry Regiment
15th Ind. Engineer Regiment
12th Engineer Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
33rd Division
56th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
55th Infantry Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
5th Division
21st Division
56th Recon Regiment
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment
II./4th Infantry Battalion
24th Infantry Regiment
84th JAAF AF Bn
1st RF Gun Battalion
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Mortar Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
56th Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
25th Army
5th Mortar Battalion
1st Raiding Rgt /2

Defending units:
11th Indian Division
27th Australian Brigade
SSVF Brigade
9th Indian Division
2nd Gordons Battalion
FMSV Brigade
Malayan Air Wing
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1st ISF Base Force
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
III Indian Corps
AHQ Far East
22nd Australian Brigade
111th RAF Base Force
2nd ISF Base Force
Malaya Army
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
2nd Loyal Battalion
1st Malay Battalion
Singapore Fortress
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
110th RAF Base Force
112th RAF Base Force
223 Group RAF
Singapore Base Force
1st Hyderabad Battalion
109th RAF Base Force
3rd HK&S Light AA Regiment
1st Manchester Battalion
224 Group RAF
2nd Malay Battalion
109th RN Base Force


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Ground combat at Saumlaki (78,117)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 254 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 6

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 2

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Saumlaki !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)



Assaulting units:
I/81st Naval Guard Unit


enemy carriers moving into the Indian Ocean again...

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor troy (A)

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Nice, you won the leaders roll and prevented the 2:1 (which I suspected would have triggered the Japanese win, though I don't have a ton of experience with the early battles).  I do think that your decision to replace the leaders has paid big dividends, and this is just the latest example.  Sure, it's guaranteed to be like 6:1 next time, but another day is another day :)  I don't think he needs 2000 av to keep you in prison in Mindanao and Clark Field, 1000 av (200 in Mindanao and 800 at Clark) after a month might very well be enough (again, not a lot of experience, but the advantages of terrain you are using also reduce the troop requirement for prison duty, especially once they have forts).  I definitely think defensive postures is the way to go as the Allies (at least against an experienced opponent), as it poses a problem to the Japanese player, but I just don't feel that many Japanese players look at it as a chance to move many of their troops on earlier than they might otherwise have to.  An extra 1000 AV freed up a month early might be worth more to the Japanese than an extra 2000 av two months later after their disabled squads are fixed (given the amphib bonus, with which I agree with you).  It's not like the Japanese player won't have years to destroy those garrisons with impunity while they are on the defensive.  Could even potentially use them as training for fresh troops.  
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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor troy (A)

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2000 av for Clark and Java with Mindanao only needing 100 or so. Got 2300 av at Clark Field, nearly 100 prepped and I can guarantee that it would take a whole lot of luck to hold as the Japanese with 800 av there. I have shock attacked the enemy around on the Philipines a couple of times already, facing up to 1000 av. And you know what happens if you have to retreat once... [:D] Ok, perhaps it's not 2000 av in total but 1800 or so but I guess you get what I mean.

I agree with you, the Japanese could of course bypass all the strongholds but until which line? Bypass Java, ok, bypass Clark Field, ok, bypass Darwin, ok, bypass Port Moresby, ok, bypass Sydney, ok, bypass Wellington, ok... but where are they going then? Antarctica? [:D]

Of course I don't know what bluebook's overall plan is, if I have to guess, it will be Australia as he took all of the Pacific except Hawaii, Johnston, Palmyra, Christmas Island, Canton Island and New Zealand and also took the atolls West of Ceylon so this clearly aims at isolating Australia. Going with this assumption he just has to take Port Moresby or Darwin at some point I'd say. What he did so far (and he did well) was taking literally empty ground everywhere.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor troy (A)

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Speaking as someone who plays the Japanese, in the PI I personally like to make sure I send enough to take Manila and Clark. Bataan can then be controlled with about 800 AV (less if you really want) and eventually taken. The rest on the army packs up and heads other places. That being said, Singapore is really the key to everything early. In my opinion, it must be overwhelmed in early to mid January to allow a decent sized port in the area. BBs have to travel a very long way to rearm until Singapore falls. The longer Singapore holds, the longer the Japanese are delayed from the rest of the DEI and beyond.

Regarding ground attacks, if you play the Japanese, I think you get used to the pounding Allied air can give your units. One day of attacks will really do a number on a unit. We tend to think we can do the same thing. The problem is the Allies typically drop a minimum of 6 x 500 lbs bombs whereas the Japanese only drop a max of 4 x 250kg with many dropping far less both in number and size. The numbers just do not add up to anything especially in a place like Singapore where the total number of units being bombed is very high and the terrain and forts offer protection. Using carrier planes to ground attack Singapore is really kinda a waste of an asset.

And of course, the Amphibious Bonus is AWESOME! One of the best things ever added to the game! [:D] (please note the preceding smilie and consider my tongue firmly planted in my cheek)

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor troy (A)

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I think bluebook made a mistake hitting Singapore with so many regiment-sized infantry units. They always seem to take severe losses and perform poorly in big battles. If you notice, on the last hit he finally snuck in a fourth full division (5th Div). If he'd had four or five full divs instead of all those broken up pieces from the start I bet it would have cost him a lot less with the same AV commitment.

Your math on his total AV is pretty good - the 20th Div that showed up at Clark is a Korea buyout, so you know where his PPs have gone. (And probably what prompted the attempt.) I bet he came ashore on Luzon with only like 1k AV originally, but a lot of it was good IJA tank regiments. One of the things I like about your AAR style is we can keep track of the LCUs from the full combat log.

I know we're a bit time-warped here, but could you give us a world map screenshot sometime? I confess a part of me just wants to see everything painted red, but it still would be interesting to see what you're dealing with after the initial rampage. [:)]
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I'd be curious to see the strat map myself.  As to the specifics of Clark, I absolutely agree that your AV can maul a small Japanese stack, especially early on in the campaign.  I'm probably thinking of mid February myself, by which time air power can probably get your supply levels down to the point where you don't particularly want to attack and the troops have time to build at least fort level 2 on the rough jungle terrain.  With that duration of prep time for 2 divisions worth of troops, it's going to take quite some luck to dislodge the IJA in that terrain with forts when your own supplies are probably quite limited.  The defensive multiplier in Clark Field is quite strong, much stronger than most places you'd consider the counter shock attack early in the campaign.  That said, I'm sure I'm want to go for the siege of Bataan myself, after sending enough to clear Manilla and Clark.  The Allied player can definitely take advantage of the open border between Bataan and Clark if we're thinking of a many month siege scenario with relatively few troops.

The point of such a move anyway would be to have the maximum av available for the last phase of operations during the amphibious bonus, wherever that will hit.  It doesn't exactly matter which line it is, though the Phillipines are so far behind what can be expected to be Japanese lines for the next few years that it's a safe bet that Allies won't be able to adequately exploit it if bypassed compared to, say Fiji if you are going for New Zealand.  If holing up the Allies in Clark lets you potentially hit later targets (the Darwins, Port Moresbys, and especially places like Sydney or Wellington (of those are your plans) with an extra thousand AV during the bonus rather than having 2000 extra available once it's gone, it might be a worthwhile tradeoff.  It's the classic back fill maneuver to deny the Allies as many bases as they can actually exploit in the first year or two of the war as possible (the Allies holding Port Moresby in fall 1942 is a far better position for the Allies than still holding a pocket in Clark Field well beyond any kind of supply).  Tying up unnecessary resources to eliminate a pocket that's too deep in your interior to be any threat seems like a suboptimal choice to me, all else being equal (which it never is).  Either bring enough to clear it fast, or bring just enough to tie it down (with some temporary cushion until forts can be raised).  Something in between doesn't seem, to me anyway, to be the way to go.  That's just looking at it from a Japanese perspective though. 

From an Allied perspective, balling up a lot of those early units makes a ton of sense, as it forces the Japanese player to react during the phase where aggression is important.  Think how much extra was brought to Ambon just for fear of what you might have put there.  The only "counter" to having these bypassed is what you already have to be doing-preparing your final line of defenses at the places you can actually get troops in time.  And, if your opponent gets a little sloppy, you can force a retreat and really put the hurt on.  I definitely agree with SeethingErmine that attacking you in Singapore with those regiment-sized units was a mistake.  I've gotten to the point that I'll only ever use them in an attack if I think I can force the retreat.  Divisions are so much more resilient and I've come to believe (based on admittedly limited evidence) that you'll suffer fewer overall casualties attacking at, say, 1:2 odds with full divisions than 1:1 with those regiments included.  The divisions can absorb the blows better to begin with, and there will be fewer of them (which can be temporarily split after to replenish disabled faster, at least as the Allies).  I haven't seen anything which convinces me that the firepower of the smaller units significantly increases the casualties to the defender, either.  I think Singapore could have been almost as bad in the lack of destroyed squads department as some of the other fights if bluebook hadn't been attacking with the smaller units consistently (and I totally agree with you there, seems so odd that the attacker can almost always be back up to full strength after a week of heavy attacking in short order).

This game is interesting though.  I'm curious to see just what bluebook plans as his major offensive.
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It isn't about what we infer. It was stated directly long ago. That's how they designed it - good/bad, right/wrong, inferior/superior, dumb/smart, or whatever.

And BTW all devices - all of them - have crews. Those crews can take individual casualties (KIA/WIA/captured) when the device is 'disabled'. Those casualties have to be made good when the device is 'fixed'.

Yes, of course the tank/gun/radar etc. needs spare parts to be fixed. It also needs any people casualties among the crew to be replaced.
Exactly. It has been this way since UV.

The device is an abstraction of the whole unit required to operate effectively. A 155mm "device" is the gun, the crew, the on site ammunition and the on site spare parts.

Supplies are an abstraction of everything this unit requires to be brought back to full strenght in case of taking losses, or to be kept operational when operating.
Whether this is a replacement loader for the one lying in field hospital with diarrhea, a new gun barrel, or a new tyre, is not discernable. If a soldier in the unit gets killed
supply is used to abstract the event of a new replacement soldier arriving at the squad.

The only situation different to the above is when the whole unit gets wiped out as a fighting force. The gun destroyed, the crew shot or killed by a direct hit, the commander killed
or taken prisoner. Then you need two abstracted means to replace the losses:
Supplies, as in the previous situation, but also manpower and/or "the device", representing a completely trained unit including their commander.
I think the argument being presented here is that while yes, a disabled squad does take *something* to be brought back to readiness, and that something is "supplies" as an abstraction of a lot of things, the fact that it's *just* supplies means that getting destroyed results is that much more valuable.

I don't think castor troy is saying that his troops are causing zero casualties absolutely, but he is saying that since most of the casualties are *just* disabled, the effect doesn't add up to much in the long run. We can grant that disabled still means "some soldiers died", but in-game, it doesn't mean a thing (relatively) to Japan's production pools, and that's what he's looking for,
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Speaking as someone who plays the Japanese, in the PI I personally like to make sure I send enough to take Manila and Clark. Bataan can then be controlled with about 800 AV (less if you really want) and eventually taken. The rest on the army packs up and heads other places. That being said, Singapore is really the key to everything early. In my opinion, it must be overwhelmed in early to mid January to allow a decent sized port in the area. BBs have to travel a very long way to rearm until Singapore falls. The longer Singapore holds, the longer the Japanese are delayed from the rest of the DEI and beyond.

Regarding ground attacks, if you play the Japanese, I think you get used to the pounding Allied air can give your units. One day of attacks will really do a number on a unit. We tend to think we can do the same thing. The problem is the Allies typically drop a minimum of 6 x 500 lbs bombs whereas the Japanese only drop a max of 4 x 250kg with many dropping far less both in number and size. The numbers just do not add up to anything especially in a place like Singapore where the total number of units being bombed is very high and the terrain and forts offer protection. Using carrier planes to ground attack Singapore is really kinda a waste of an asset.

And of course, the Amphibious Bonus is AWESOME! One of the best things ever added to the game! [:D] (please note the preceding smilie and consider my tongue firmly planted in my cheek)

Wa

yeah, ground bombing is only really useful if you catch the enemy in open terrain and it can show real effect if there are few units but as soon as you have some terrain bonus and lots of units the ground attacks do literally nothing in terms of decreasing the enemy's combat value. Again, I do not know what it means to supplies but I guess you would be better off bombing the airfield or port but I could be wrong here.

re the BB having to rearm, well, no need for bluebook's BB to rearm as the DEI is already Japanese! [:D] Only my strongholds are still fighting and are waiting to be attacked.

Amphib bonus? [;)]
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I think bluebook made a mistake hitting Singapore with so many regiment-sized infantry units. They always seem to take severe losses and perform poorly in big battles. If you notice, on the last hit he finally snuck in a fourth full division (5th Div). If he'd had four or five full divs instead of all those broken up pieces from the start I bet it would have cost him a lot less with the same AV commitment.

Your math on his total AV is pretty good - the 20th Div that showed up at Clark is a Korea buyout, so you know where his PPs have gone. (And probably what prompted the attempt.) I bet he came ashore on Luzon with only like 1k AV originally, but a lot of it was good IJA tank regiments. One of the things I like about your AAR style is we can keep track of the LCUs from the full combat log.

I know we're a bit time-warped here, but could you give us a world map screenshot sometime? I confess a part of me just wants to see everything painted red, but it still would be interesting to see what you're dealing with after the initial rampage. [:)]


Totally agree, hitting the enemy with < div sized units usually isn't a good idea. I have noticed this myselve and wondered why all these Inf rgt showed up and why they aren't combined into divisions. Really not having looked at the Japanese so far, can't those Rgt be recombined into divisions? Are they all independent units?

I always fail to know which IJA divs are Southern Area Command units and which are coming from somewhere else but I was sure there are already bought out units operating against me as the total av was quite shocking to me when I summed it up. Nice catch with the 5th Div at Singapore, didn't notice he brought in another div.

The AAR is only a week behind the game at the moment as I spent more time updating the AAR than playing due to a lack of turns [:(], will take a screenshot of the strategic situation next turn, so that should show up soon.
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I'd be curious to see the strat map myself.  As to the specifics of Clark, I absolutely agree that your AV can maul a small Japanese stack, especially early on in the campaign.  I'm probably thinking of mid February myself, by which time air power can probably get your supply levels down to the point where you don't particularly want to attack and the troops have time to build at least fort level 2 on the rough jungle terrain.  With that duration of prep time for 2 divisions worth of troops, it's going to take quite some luck to dislodge the IJA in that terrain with forts when your own supplies are probably quite limited.  The defensive multiplier in Clark Field is quite strong, much stronger than most places you'd consider the counter shock attack early in the campaign.  That said, I'm sure I'm want to go for the siege of Bataan myself, after sending enough to clear Manilla and Clark.  The Allied player can definitely take advantage of the open border between Bataan and Clark if we're thinking of a many month siege scenario with relatively few troops.

The point of such a move anyway would be to have the maximum av available for the last phase of operations during the amphibious bonus, wherever that will hit.  It doesn't exactly matter which line it is, though the Phillipines are so far behind what can be expected to be Japanese lines for the next few years that it's a safe bet that Allies won't be able to adequately exploit it if bypassed compared to, say Fiji if you are going for New Zealand.  If holing up the Allies in Clark lets you potentially hit later targets (the Darwins, Port Moresbys, and especially places like Sydney or Wellington (of those are your plans) with an extra thousand AV during the bonus rather than having 2000 extra available once it's gone, it might be a worthwhile tradeoff.  It's the classic back fill maneuver to deny the Allies as many bases as they can actually exploit in the first year or two of the war as possible (the Allies holding Port Moresby in fall 1942 is a far better position for the Allies than still holding a pocket in Clark Field well beyond any kind of supply).  Tying up unnecessary resources to eliminate a pocket that's too deep in your interior to be any threat seems like a suboptimal choice to me, all else being equal (which it never is).  Either bring enough to clear it fast, or bring just enough to tie it down (with some temporary cushion until forts can be raised).  Something in between doesn't seem, to me anyway, to be the way to go.  That's just looking at it from a Japanese perspective though. 

From an Allied perspective, balling up a lot of those early units makes a ton of sense, as it forces the Japanese player to react during the phase where aggression is important.  Think how much extra was brought to Ambon just for fear of what you might have put there.  The only "counter" to having these bypassed is what you already have to be doing-preparing your final line of defenses at the places you can actually get troops in time.  And, if your opponent gets a little sloppy, you can force a retreat and really put the hurt on.  I definitely agree with SeethingErmine that attacking you in Singapore with those regiment-sized units was a mistake.  I've gotten to the point that I'll only ever use them in an attack if I think I can force the retreat.  Divisions are so much more resilient and I've come to believe (based on admittedly limited evidence) that you'll suffer fewer overall casualties attacking at, say, 1:2 odds with full divisions than 1:1 with those regiments included.  The divisions can absorb the blows better to begin with, and there will be fewer of them (which can be temporarily split after to replenish disabled faster, at least as the Allies).  I haven't seen anything which convinces me that the firepower of the smaller units significantly increases the casualties to the defender, either.  I think Singapore could have been almost as bad in the lack of destroyed squads department as some of the other fights if bluebook hadn't been attacking with the smaller units consistently (and I totally agree with you there, seems so odd that the attacker can almost always be back up to full strength after a week of heavy attacking in short order).

This game is interesting though.  I'm curious to see just what bluebook plans as his major offensive.


bluebook is prepping div(s) - one or two - for Port Moresby, at least this is what intel is telling me. One div would sound a bit weak to me to be honest and with the importance of PM, this is what I would think where he will go to before the amphib bonus ends. Don't get me wrong, I bitch a lot about the amphib bonus and I really think it is a ridicoulos feature in PBEM when it enables the Japanese to land at five dozen atolls and dot bases all around the map, 10000 miles away from the SRA, but the amphib bonus isn't really needed for a major operation like attacking New Zealand, India or Australia. If the target is a one base island and there is a strong garisson, you of course either need preparation or the amphib bonus. If the target is a continent or a big island like NZ then you can just land a small unit at an empty base and take it and unload the rest in a friendly port (ok, takes longer without the amphib bonus).

My guess for the next major operations are Northern Australia and Port Moresby, enemy carriers have been sitting off Timor for over a week, we have spotted enemy BBs and lots of transports were going to Timor. Also had a lot of intel of Japanese units being transported to Koepang and I doubt these are garisson units. [:D]
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It isn't about what we infer. It was stated directly long ago. That's how they designed it - good/bad, right/wrong, inferior/superior, dumb/smart, or whatever.

And BTW all devices - all of them - have crews. Those crews can take individual casualties (KIA/WIA/captured) when the device is 'disabled'. Those casualties have to be made good when the device is 'fixed'.

Yes, of course the tank/gun/radar etc. needs spare parts to be fixed. It also needs any people casualties among the crew to be replaced.
Exactly. It has been this way since UV.

The device is an abstraction of the whole unit required to operate effectively. A 155mm "device" is the gun, the crew, the on site ammunition and the on site spare parts.

Supplies are an abstraction of everything this unit requires to be brought back to full strenght in case of taking losses, or to be kept operational when operating.
Whether this is a replacement loader for the one lying in field hospital with diarrhea, a new gun barrel, or a new tyre, is not discernable. If a soldier in the unit gets killed
supply is used to abstract the event of a new replacement soldier arriving at the squad.

The only situation different to the above is when the whole unit gets wiped out as a fighting force. The gun destroyed, the crew shot or killed by a direct hit, the commander killed
or taken prisoner. Then you need two abstracted means to replace the losses:
Supplies, as in the previous situation, but also manpower and/or "the device", representing a completely trained unit including their commander.
I think the argument being presented here is that while yes, a disabled squad does take *something* to be brought back to readiness, and that something is "supplies" as an abstraction of a lot of things, the fact that it's *just* supplies means that getting destroyed results is that much more valuable.

I don't think castor troy is saying that his troops are causing zero casualties absolutely, but he is saying that since most of the casualties are *just* disabled, the effect doesn't add up to much in the long run. We can grant that disabled still means "some soldiers died", but in-game, it doesn't mean a thing (relatively) to Japan's production pools, and that's what he's looking for,



well put, this is what I want to say. I really give a sh*t about 1 enemy squad disabled when the enemy attacks a garisson of 1000 troops on an atoll as it means just nothing. Not that 1 squad destroyed would really mean something, so together with the amphib bonus an enemy nav guard unit can rush through the Pacific or Indian Ocean and take out literally all garissons and empty islands in two months, as can be seen in my game against bluebook. You might think that even 1000 soldiers of a support unit would be able to kill perhaps more than 2 enemy soldiers when they attempt to land on an atoll.

I only spent 8 months draft service in the Army (a badly equipped one of a neutral country) and I have been a support, better say I have been a waiter for 7 months after the first month "combat training". I was stationed at a military training area in the mountains the whole time and back then, Austria, while being a neutral country, was working together with the NATO as it was called "partnership for peace". [:D] This meant we had foreign troops doing wargames at our place to train combat in mountainous terrain. There were French, German, US, Dutch [:D] (fun to see those Dutch units doing mountain combat training with their country being flat and partially below sea level), Italian and troops from other countries training. While they were training on their own during the week, we were waiters, drivers, cooks or other supports from Monday to Friday lunch time. And every Friday afternoon halve a company of us was ordered to dress up as real soldiers and we always ended up in the same prepared position near a small, terrible cold river going through a very narrow valley only leaving roughly 100m of ground next to the river. I would call the position a fort level 3 at best, well camouflaged, no concrete. We were always equipped with 2 light machine guns, STG77 and STG58 assault rifles, grenades and two non existing medium mortars we could call in for fire support. Guess we wouldn't be called a well equipped elite unit with our second class equipment, old uniforms and boots that have been worn by probably 10 other soldiers in draft service before we were wearing them, all of us doing normal jobs during the week instead of combat training. Our "enemies" on Friday afternoon could be called elite units, well equipped, modern weapons, far better trained than us, I dare to say, those guys were soldiers. I think comparing us with those NATO units would be pretty much the same as comparing an IJN Naval guard unit with an Allied support unit of early 42.

So every time we were sitting in our position, sometimes waiting for three or more hours to see the enemy finally showing up roughly 250m in front of our position. Most of the times they were advancing frontally on our position, not being aware where they are going to walk into. Usually we were assaulted by roughly twice the number of friendly strenght and usually the enemy ended up being shot up badly, suffering from the terrain, the two light machine guns and fire from something like 40 assault rifles. I can't remember a single time when we weren't declared winning high when the enemy ran right into our position, we suffering minimal losses with the enemy literally being wiped out. Debriefing then most often was the funniest part, when we were looking into the faces of our "enemies" when they were told what they already knew anyway, most of you are dead now, defeated by those ill equipped clowns that serve food during the week.

I only took part in those wargames every second week and I can only remember us losing 4 times. 3 out of 3 times we were overrun from behind by Italian Alpini, which went directly up roughly 600m of steep rock to flank us. Took them the whole afternoon and they didn't show up before the evening, which meant a long day for us [:D]. We were sure that the Alpini were cheating as it was obvious they always knew were our position was and the same happened to the other halve of our team whenever they faced the Italian. The position wasn't fortified against an attack from behind so whenever this happened we were done. The fourth time losing was against Bavarian Gebirgsjäger which did the same but not flanking us without us even spotting them first, they advanced onto our position and then sent halve of their unit across the rocks. All the other units just failed. What really impressed me back then was the effect of a good position and an enemy advancing towards it not knowing you were there. No high tech weapons, just guns and bullets and we were able to defeat the enemy something like 9 out of 10 times (more if you exclude the Italian).

Now long story short, what I want trying to say is that even a non first line combat unit with a couple of guns should be able to cause notable losses within the enemy if not completely caught by surprise. As this doesn't happen, the enemy in our in game example overruns the whole Pacific and Indian Ocean with 3000 soldiers as the amphib bonus and the non existing damage let's him do this with so few troops.

But hey ho, it's just a nuissance so I think we shouldn't make this more than it is.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 05, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lord Howe Island at 102,176, Range 9,000 Yards

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Japanese Ships
PB Choko Maru #2, Shell hits 5, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Thanet


that's one of the picket PB bluebook uses, probably to draw a carrier strike if my CVs end up in range... well... we had intel about that PB moving into the area and ordered DD Thanet to engage... I wondered why the PB was only hit by 4 inch shells, just to find out Thanet is a third class destroyer only carrying a couple of 4 inch guns... being on fire and quite a way from home the PB should be done though...

Improved night sighting under 78% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 78% moonlight: 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards
DD Thanet engages PB Choko Maru #2 at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
DD Thanet engages PB Choko Maru #2 at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
DD Thanet engages PB Choko Maru #2 at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
DD Thanet engages PB Choko Maru #2 at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
DD Thanet engages PB Choko Maru #2 at 7,000 yards
DD Thanet engages PB Choko Maru #2 at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
DD Thanet engages PB Choko Maru #2 at 8,000 yards
DD Thanet engages PB Choko Maru #2 at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
DD Thanet engages PB Choko Maru #2 at 7,000 yards
DD Thanet engages PB Choko Maru #2 at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
DD Thanet engages PB Choko Maru #2 at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
DD Thanet engages PB Choko Maru #2 at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
DD Thanet engages PB Choko Maru #2 at 9,000 yards
Davies, E.S. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range closes to 8,000 yards
DD Thanet engages PB Choko Maru #2 at 8,000 yards
Shibuya, Y. orders Japanese TF to disengage
Task forces break off...


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ASW attack near Koepang at 68,116

Japanese Ships
DD Tachikaze
DD Asagao

Allied Ships
SS S-37, hits 3



SS S-37 is sighted by escort
S-37 bottoming out ....
DD Asagao attacking submerged sub ....
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Koepang at 68,116

Japanese Ships
xAK Oigawa Maru
xAKL Yosyu Maru
PB Chohakusan Maru

Allied Ships
SS S-37

still lots of shipping at Koepang...

SS S-37 is sighted by escort
PB Chohakusan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Chohakusan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Chohakusan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Chohakusan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Chohakusan Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Chohakusan Maru is out of ASW ammo
PB Chohakusan Maru is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub


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Amphibious Assault at Tawi Tawi (72,90)

TF 202 troops unloading over beach at Tawi Tawi, 72,90

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost overboard during unload of III/66th Nav Gd
17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost in surf during unload of III/66th Nav Gd


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 78,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 12



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
PT-41
PT Q-111



Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Singapore Fortress, at 50,84 (Singapore)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 68



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 4 damaged


Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
38 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
30 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking Malaya Army ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...


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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 22
Ki-30 Ann x 28
Ki-36 Ida x 11
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 24
Ki-51 Sonia x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 damaged
Ki-36 Ida: 1 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 3 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
28 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
11 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 78
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 40



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 21 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 11 damaged


Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 45

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
16 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
16 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
16 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking Singapore Base Force ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking 11th Indian Division ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking 27th Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking III Indian Corps ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking 22nd Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking 224 Group RAF ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking 223 Group RAF ...
Also attacking Malayan Air Wing ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking AHQ Far East ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Singapore ...


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Afternoon Air attack on Singapore Fortress, at 50,84 (Singapore)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 41
G4M1 Betty x 36



Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 3 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
36 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
34 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
7 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 9th Indian Division ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking 9th Indian Division ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...


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ASW attack near Koepang at 68,116

Japanese Ships
DD Sawakaze
xAK Gyoko Maru

Allied Ships
SS S-40

pity we don't target the freighters but at least there is an escort which means we attack submerged instead of surfaced just to break off right away...


SS S-40 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Sawakaze
Sub escapes detection


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Amphibious Assault at Niuafo'ou (141,160)

TF 309 troops unloading over beach at Niuafo'ou, 141,160

must be a dot or so somewhere far away in the South Pacific...


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Amphibious Assault at Lunga (114,138)

TF 335 troops unloading over beach at Lunga, 114,138





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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8981 troops, 339 guns, 56 vehicles, Assault Value = 2062

Defending force 37634 troops, 418 guns, 286 vehicles, Assault Value = 305

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 5 (4 destroyed, 1 disabled)


the last failed deliberate attack means a couple of days more of Allied resistance...

Assaulting units:
33rd Division
16th Infantry Regiment
41st Infantry Regiment
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment
56th Recon Regiment
56th Engineer Regiment
2nd Engineer Regiment
12th Engineer Regiment
113th Infantry Regiment
55th Infantry Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
56th Infantry Regiment
2nd Recon Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
21st Division
5th Division
Imperial Guards Division
II./4th Infantry Battalion
15th Ind. Engineer Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
84th JAAF AF Bn
3rd Mortar Battalion
25th Army
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
56th Field Artillery Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
1st Raiding Rgt /2

Defending units:
SSVF Brigade
11th Indian Division
27th Australian Brigade
9th Indian Division
223 Group RAF
224 Group RAF
111th RAF Base Force
Malaya Army
22nd Australian Brigade
Singapore Base Force
1st Manchester Battalion
2nd Malay Battalion
2nd Loyal Battalion
III Indian Corps
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1st ISF Base Force
AHQ Far East
Singapore Fortress
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
2nd ISF Base Force
Malayan Air Wing
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
3rd HK&S Light AA Regiment
FMSV Brigade
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
112th RAF Base Force
109th RAF Base Force
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
2nd Gordons Battalion
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
1st Hyderabad Battalion
110th RAF Base Force
109th RN Base Force


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Ground combat at Misool (80,108)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 450 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 16

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 16 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Misool !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:



Assaulting units:
Bandasan SNLF


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Ground combat at Sampit (58,97)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 222 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 7

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Sampit !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
III/81st Naval Guard Unit



intel:

4/38th/A Division is loaded on xAK Tatukami Maru moving to Noumea.



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Those Hong Kong DDs are terrible, they are WW1 relics. Almost not worth saving.

They do however carry mines IIRC.
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Great story, Castor! Thanks for telling it.

Do you think any Pacific Islands will be left by Bluebook?
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ORIGINAL: witpqs

Great story, Castor! Thanks for telling it.

Do you think any Pacific Islands will be left by Bluebook?


yeah, Hawaii [:D]

seriously, as he took everything below Palmyra/Christmas Island and Canton Island further West he is probably done with his assault on the South Pacific. He knows that I have 150av on Canton Island as he already had a SNLF wiped out when he attempted to land it. Now of course you can't rely on holding a 6000 troop stacking atoll and if he wants it, he can take it, but in that case he has to use serious troops that are seriously prepared. My guess is Australia, everything seems to point at that target. He may also attack New Zealand but I am not sure if it does him any good and it wouldn't cut off Australia more than it already is cut off. From Noumea or the Fijis it's not that far to the Southern map edge so any convoy passing that area is in high danger of being attacked and destroyed.

I can't really think of an all out attack on Australia though, at least that isn't what I would do, I would only go for the North Coast but looking at bluebook's agressiveness so far, he may well try to take all of it. Now that would be a great victory for him, haven't heard about a Japanese player being able to take all of Australia in an AE PBEM yet. Wouldn't it be satisfying to teach bitching castor a real lesson? [:D] Of course the attempt could also lead to major disaster, while the chances to suffer a disaster as the IJ taking the North Coast are rather small.
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Maybe he'll get victory disease. Maybe not.

I guess you'll know for sure quite soon.
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