Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis. Oloren now permitted.

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: randallw

The neck on the northern pincer looks a little thin.

Not that thin really as there are stacked units there, but as is the tale of the entire front, I could really use some more units [:D]


Terje

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: Tophat1812


Can we get a better pic of the two prongs of the projected pincer?

See below.


Terje

[terje439]

Turn 14

Disclaimer
About a week ago, I "broke" my version of Gimp. Now I have messed up Paint somehow as well [:D]
"Unable to paste into paint" (something like that) is the message I get.

Overall
This turn we are more concerned about trying to keep pushing the USSR away from their rivers than we are at striking deep. The pincer movement east of Kiev is only partially successful (if even that) as the two arms are 9 hexes apart. We did however manage to cut the raillines into the forming pocket. The Question now is how many units will we manage to trap next turn.
We make a total of 81 attacks, scoring 3 scouted, 17 held, 50 retreat, 5 rout and 6 surrender.

Losses
USSR : 138.000 troops, 2.080 guns, 109 AFVs and 139 AC.
Axis : 50.000 troops, 612 guns, 132 AFVs and 34 AC.

Units Destroyed
6 rifle divisions surrendered to us this turn.

Pools
Manpower : 31.749
Vehicle : 166.308
Armaments : 61.380
Hiwi : 79.151

[Tophat1815]

Sorry to hear about your MS paint issue. On the other hand its good to see those numbers of soviet losses rise to 3 times your losses. Keep that ratio up and you'll put the hurt on Big Red. Your armor losses are troubling,but its 41' and time to do some damage to the Red machine. Now that you have this pocket starting to form,start thinking about the next pocket you are going to make and do it before mud sets in.

How is that drive on Leningrad working out for you?

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: Tophat1812


Sorry to hear about your MS paint issue. On the other hand its good to see those numbers of soviet losses rise to 3 times your losses. Keep that ratio up and you'll put the hurt on Big Red. Your armor losses are troubling,but its 41' and time to do some damage to the Red machine. Now that you have this pocket starting to form,start thinking about the next pocket you are going to make and do it before mud sets in.

How is that drive on Leningrad working out for you?

The AFV losses this turn was expected as there is not much USSR armoured forces left, and mine had to push to try to keep pressure on the forming pocket.
Leningrad is still many turns away it seems, but things do improve as there are less and less rivers for the USSR to hide behind.


Terje

[Balou]

I do not waste many AP's changing leaders during 41.

Your best leaders should be at Corp level during 41 not army

The Corp leader rolls are a huge. They effect allot of close battles.

copyright Pelton

Yess, and so do I. Gut feeling.

But, (and sorry for beeing late here and seemingly misusing this thread): from when on is Admin power of Army leaders really becoming equally/more important than key values of Corps leaders ?

[terje439]

Turn 15

Disclaimer
Seems I will have to reboot my PC to get paint working again.

Overall
The USSR sees the danger he is in, and counterattack/countermove (well, two attacks against my Rumanians holding my southern flank. Hmm why does keeping the Rumanians as flank guards make me uneasy? [:D]). As a result we are unable to seal the pocket this turn, high hopes for the next turn though. The USSR launch two attacks, scoring 1 held and 1 retreat. We launch 89 attacks, scoring 20 held (this is really not good enough), 62 retreats, 6 routs and 1 shatter.

Losses
USSR : 76.000 troops, 1.306 guns, 112 AFVs, 191 AC.
Axis : 50.000 troops, 509 guns, 136 AFVs, 84 AC.

Units destroyed
2 PVO AA regiments, 1 army artillery regiment, 1 rifle division and Guards Leningrad PM Rifle Division all shatter when attacked by our valiant troops.

Cities Captured
The USSR abandon Kiev this turn. For 5 divisions however, it is too late as they are encircled just east of Kiev.

Pools
Manpower : 33.471
Vehicle : 166.812
Armaments : 54.797
Hiwi : 84.123

Concern
I would like to seal and destroy the "Kiev-pocket(ish)" before the mud arrives.

[terje439]

Turn 16

Overall
The first partisans arrive on the map, and the USSR manage to withdraw their forces out of the pocket. Once more we are a few hexes shy of an encirclement. And to make matters worse, our forces are in need of rest and resupply, and winter is coming. Things are not looking too good right now. We will have to straighten the front and find defensive positions where we can dig in. We will also need to get our panzer and mechanized troops away from the front and go all out in the 1942 campaign. At the moment I fear the USSR will take Berlin in this game. We make 75 attacks, scoring 1 scouted, 19 held, 47 retreats, 2 routs and 6 surrenders.

Losses
USSR : 124.000 troops, 1.655 guns, 227 AFVs, 129 AC.
Axis : 54.000 troops, 524 guns, 177 AFVs, 36 AC.

Units destroyed
7 rifle divisions, 1 PVO AA regiments and Moscow PM rifle division surrender to our infantry this turn.

Cities Captured
Our forces take Smolensk and Eastern Kiev.

Pools
Manpower : 33.653
Vehicle : 168.448
Armaments : 40.673
Hiwi : 85.318

Concerns
Winter is coming and we are not at all prepared for it.

[Karri]

I'd say you are doing pretty bad. About 100-300km where Axis usually is...?

[Peltonx]

Did you take Leningrad?

Things might look bad, but you can turn things around in 42 if you do not get wiped out during blizzard by a cav/mech crazy tactic.

I have seen a few AAR's where the German does badly during 41, but is able to really turn tables in 42.

It 100% depends on what the Russian does during blizzard, most russian blizzard's are really realy poor as few have figured out how to get around the logistics model other then a few.

Unless you friend has been talking to TDV I would expect the blizzard to be a cake walk and your forses should be very strong by summer. Go right for Moscow as its really not to hard to take during 42 and he will be forsed to defend it. This will give you allot of chances to pocket units of which he will be forsed to buy back.

Pull all your panzer units off line during the last turn of snow. Put mech units in citys close to front as you can use them as needed.

I personally pull 9 to 12 divisions from 18th army off line also, putting them close to front in citys.

Start pushing east during snow and clear spring turns. What your OOB look like.

Pelton

[Tophat1815]

I'd follow Pelton's advice. Also how is that battle for Leningrad progressing? Glad you have gotten paint to work again. How about a few pics of the whole front and an OOB update?

With any luck you'll lull him into doing some premature attacking and cut his penetrations off during winter!

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: Karri

I'd say you are doing pretty bad. About 100-300km where Axis usually is...?

Yup [:)]

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: Pelton

1. Did you take Leningrad?

2. Things might look bad, but you can turn things around in 42 if you do not get wiped out during blizzard by a cav/mech crazy tactic.

I have seen a few AAR's where the German does badly during 41, but is able to really turn tables in 42.

3. It 100% depends on what the Russian does during blizzard, most russian blizzard's are really realy poor as few have figured out how to get around the logistics model other then a few.

Unless you friend has been talking to TDV I would expect the blizzard to be a cake walk and your forses should be very strong by summer. Go right for Moscow as its really not to hard to take during 42 and he will be forsed to defend it. This will give you allot of chances to pocket units of which he will be forsed to buy back.

4. Pull all your panzer units off line during the last turn of snow. Put mech units in citys close to front as you can use them as needed.

I personally pull 9 to 12 divisions from 18th army off line also, putting them close to front in citys.

5. Start pushing east during snow and clear spring turns. What your OOB look like.

Pelton

1. Nope, got pinned down in the north.
2. Yes, I will have to attack like crazy in 1942
3. I fear Oloren plays the game way better than me, so the blizzard should be interesting. He does however have alot of cav/armoured units on the frontline, so it does not seem like he is gathering them to prepare for the blizzard, atleast not yet.
4. Will do, thank you.
5. Will do, and will post OOB in the next update.

Terje

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: Tophat1812


I'd follow Pelton's advice. Also how is that battle for Leningrad progressing? Glad you have gotten paint to work again. How about a few pics of the whole front and an OOB update?

With any luck you'll lull him into doing some premature attacking and cut his penetrations off during winter!

Leningrad will remain in the hands of the USSR atleast untill 1942.
Will make a few screenshots in the next update.


Terje

[terje439]

Turn 17

Overall
The USSR managed to bring their units through the two hex gap, so in the end we managed to do nothing with the pincer move. That is not entirely true. It kept me from pushing east, and it have left my troops concentrated on a very narrow sector, which again means my ability to push all along the front has been severely diminshed. An operation that failed miserably in other words.
2 more partisans are chased away this turn. We only manage 48 attacks, scoring 16 held, 29 retreats, 2 routs and 1 surrender.

Losses
USSR : 102.000 troops, 1.312 guns, 52 AFVs, 293 AC.
Axis : 47.000 troops, 444 guns, 114 AFVs, 65 AC.

Units destroyed
1 rifle division surrenders.

Pools
Manpower : 35.442
Vehicle : 167.085
Armaments : 32.192
Hiwi : 90.213

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