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[nate25]

I hope you give Chivington-LaRue Smythe the proper command rating, which would be 54, not 53.

A little background on the great man, who not only was a hero in the G7YPBW, but also a scholar, a gentleman, and a taster of fine wines.

Born to the 1st Earl of Uttoxeter in 1760, he spent his youth dreaming of future commands on his father's lavish estates in Stoke-on-Trent, Derby, and Lichfield, where his father was actually experimenting with BPB formulas in a small shop on Bird St. as early as 1771.

In addition to his father, another chilhood hero was the Admiral Lord Gardner. He had been regaled with tales of the great local hero as a youth, and would have joined the Royal Navy as an ensign at an early age were it not for his inordinate fear of heights.

Instead, while wandering through the ruins of Croxden, as he often did, he determined he would become a Cambridge man.

At 17, it was off for Cambridge. Young J.S.B.R.T. cut quite a swath on the gardens and greens of the great school. Once, on holiday in London, he won great renown among his peers for walking the length of Bishopsgate from Houndsditch to Eastcheap on his hands. Unfortunately, he caught in inner-ear infection on this excursion that never healed and he was inflicted with a balance problem for the rest of his days. (It was at Cambridge while organising a great mock battle on the Fellow's Garden that he came to the attention of an Uttoxeter subaltern boning up on his Spanish, and the rest is history.)

Which is why, when you look at maps of his great battles, it appears his regiment is veering drunkenly away from the battles at times.
In reality C-LS couldn't take three steps in any direction without being off on a 30 degree tangent from his original course. One of his aide-de-camp was responsible solely for guiding the great man from point to point. But it did allow him to win at least one battle, when he led his regt. 2,000 yards to the east in the 3rd Battle of Orinoco and hit the Austrians squarely on their flank, routing them and taking the PB farm with only 16 casualties.

So please rate this great commander as he deserves.

Thanks,
Nate Grognard

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: nate25

I hope you give Chivington-LaRue Smythe the proper command rating, which would be 54, not 53.

A little background on the great man, who not only was a hero in the G7YPBW, but also a scholar, a gentleman, and a taster of fine wines.

Born to the 1st Earl of Uttoxeter in 1760, he spent his youth dreaming of future commands on his father's lavish estates in Stoke-on-Trent, Derby, and Lichfield, where his father was actually experimenting with BPB formulas in a small shop on Bird St. as early as 1771.

In addition to his father, another chilhood hero was the Admiral Lord Gardner. He had been regaled with tales of the great local hero as a youth, and would have joined the Royal Navy as an ensign at an early age were it not for his inordinate fear of heights.

Instead, while wandering through the ruins of Croxden, as he often did, he determined he would become a Cambridge man.

At 17, it was off for Cambridge. Young J.S.B.R.T. cut quite a swath on the gardens and greens of the great school. Once, on holiday in London, he won great renown among his peers for walking the length of Bishopsgate from Houndsditch to Eastcheap on his hands. Unfortunately, he caught in inner-ear infection on this excursion that never healed and he was inflicted with a balance problem for the rest of his days. (It was at Cambridge while organising a great mock battle on the Fellow's Garden that he came to the attention of an Uttoxeter subaltern boning up on his Spanish, and the rest is history.)

Which is why, when you look at maps of his great battles, it appears his regiment is veering drunkenly away from the battles at times.
In reality C-LS couldn't take three steps in any direction without being off on a 30 degree tangent from his original course. One of his aide-de-camp was responsible solely for guiding the great man from point to point. But it did allow him to win at least one battle, when he led his regt. 2,000 yards to the east in the 3rd Battle of Orinoco and hit the Austrians squarely on their flank, routing them and taking the PB farm with only 16 casualties.

So please rate this great commander as he deserves.

Thanks,
Nate Grognard

Warspite1

nate25, no problem in the rating - I completely agree that 54 is the correct figure here; a 53 would be waaaaaay to low. One problem though, it wasn't Chivington La Rue Smythe that won the 3rd Orinoco. His death at the First Orinoco (see my previous post) kind of ruled that out [;)].

I think you are getting confused with his cousin, Lt-Colonel E.A.S.P.O.R.T.S "Danny" La Rue Smythe who replaced his cousin following the latters heroic death at the First Orinoco.

[nate25]

Sorry, you are correct.

I was thinking of the 2nd battle of Montevideo where C-LS's utter rout of the Austrians
led to the British rule of the Plate estuary for a short time.

I was listening to Enya at the time of the erroneous post.

Regards,
NG

[warspite1]

Good news for lovers of naval warfare.

I will be ensuring that the naval encounters are included in the game to come. This will of course include the opening encounter of the war that took place on the 1st August 1800, and is known universally as The First Battle of the River Plate.

The two Peruvian 100-gun men of war (The Lima (commanded by Rear-Admiral Oblitas) and The Paddington (commanded by Rear Admiral Cublitas) sailed round Cape Horn (or was it Cape of Good Hope? I always get those two mixed up...anyway its the South American one) in order to intercept the British battle squadron that had earlier been sent to South America to deter would be PB smugglers.

Admiral Algernon "One Size" Fitzhall, detached the little 10-gun frigate HMS Uttoxeter to seek out any enemy ships and head them off at the pass (Ed-Head them off at the pass? I hate that cliche.....). He was not expecting that two massive Peruvian vessels would be sent into Uruguayan waters.

Off the River Plate estuary, in thick fog, the two Peruvian leviathan's sailed line astern. Their look-outs saw nothing in the gloom and the ships continued heading in a northerly direction at top speed. But aboard the Uttoxeter, The Scottish Captain, Burt Sye, had spotted the enemy vessels. He ordered his ship to head directly for the South American ships. Rear-Admiral Oblitas, aboard the Lima, spotted the little frigate when she was almost on top of her. He ordered a sharp turn to port; Cublitas, caught out by this sudden manoeuvre, ordered a turn to starboard.

These orders played straight into the hands of Captain Sye. He continued straight on and ordered his gunners to open fire to port and starboard. The Peruvian ships also began firing....but with disastrous consequences. Just as the wily Sye had planned, the two enemy ships were simply at too close a range; their cannonballs sailed over the Uttoxeter, and straight into the other vessel. Within seconds, both Cublitas and Oblitas had to order abandon ship as their once pround warships sank beneath the waves.

It was a stunning victory for the Royal Navy - and ended the Peruvian Navy's dominance of South American waters forever.....

Fun Factoid: The descendents of Oblitas and Cublitas got their revenge. In the 1974 World Cup, Oblitas and Cublitas, great, great, great grandsons of the Peruvian Admirals, were in the Peruvian team that beat Scotland 3-1. Amazing!!

[parusski]

In the 1974 World Cup

STOP EVERYTHING. This is still my thread. I will NOT have any mention of a game where men run around a field wearing shorts and tossing their long, flowing hair.

This is your LAST warning. Serious action will be taken if that vile, puff-infested game is mention on this thread again...and I am unanimous in that.

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Good news for lovers of naval warfare.

I will be ensuring that the naval encounters are included in the game to come. This will of course include the opening encounter of the war that took place on the 1st August 1800, and is known universally as The First Battle of the River Plate.

The two Peruvian 100-gun men of war (The Lima (commanded by Rear-Admiral Oblitas) and The Paddington (commanded by Rear Admiral Cublitas) sailed round Cape Horn (or was it Cape of Good Hope? I always get those two mixed up...anyway its the South American one) in order to intercept the British battle squadron that had earlier been sent to South America to deter would be PB smugglers.

Admiral Algernon "One Size" Fitzhall, detached the little 10-gun frigate HMS Uttoxeter to seek out any enemy ships and head them off at the pass (Ed-Head them off at the pass? I hate that cliche.....). He was not expecting that two massive Peruvian vessels would be sent into Uruguayan waters.

Off the River Plate estuary, in thick fog, the two Peruvian leviathan's sailed line astern. Their look-outs saw nothing in the gloom and the ships continued heading in a northerly direction at top speed. But aboard the Uttoxeter, The Scottish Captain, Burt Sye, had spotted the enemy vessels. He ordered his ship to head directly for the South American ships. Rear-Admiral Oblitas, aboard the Lima, spotted the little frigate when she was almost on top of her. He ordered a sharp turn to port; Cublitas, caught out by this sudden manoeuvre, ordered a turn to starboard.

These orders played straight into the hands of Captain Sye. He continued straight on and ordered his gunners to open fire to port and starboard. The Peruvian ships also began firing....but with disastrous consequences. Just as the wily Sye had planned, the two enemy ships were simply at too close a range; their cannonballs sailed over the Uttoxeter, and straight into the other vessel. Within seconds, both Cublitas and Oblitas had to order abandon ship as their once pround warships sank beneath the waves.

It was a stunning victory for the Royal Navy - and ended the Peruvian Navy's dominance of South American waters forever.....

Fun Factoid: The descendents of Oblitas and Cublitas got their revenge. In the 1974 World Cup, Oblitas and Cublitas, great, great, great grandsons of the Peruvian Admirals, were in the Peruvian team that beat Scotland 3-1. Amazing!!

Other than disgusting me with the S***ER mention, that is an amazing tale.

Just one thing though, I am getting some crazy emails saying the Battle of the River Plate took place during WW2. Any comment sir?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: parusski

In the 1974 World Cup

STOP EVERYTHING. This is still my thread. I will NOT have any mention of a game where men run around a field wearing shorts and tossing their long, flowing hair.

This is your LAST warning. Serious action will be taken if that vile, puff-infested game is mention on this thread again...and I am unanimous in that.

Warspite1

Apologies - I meant to say it was the 1978 World Cup - Peru did not qualify in 1974.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: parusski

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Good news for lovers of naval warfare.

I will be ensuring that the naval encounters are included in the game to come. This will of course include the opening encounter of the war that took place on the 1st August 1800, and is known universally as The First Battle of the River Plate.

The two Peruvian 100-gun men of war (The Lima (commanded by Rear-Admiral Oblitas) and The Paddington (commanded by Rear Admiral Cublitas) sailed round Cape Horn (or was it Cape of Good Hope? I always get those two mixed up...anyway its the South American one) in order to intercept the British battle squadron that had earlier been sent to South America to deter would be PB smugglers.

Admiral Algernon "One Size" Fitzhall, detached the little 10-gun frigate HMS Uttoxeter to seek out any enemy ships and head them off at the pass (Ed-Head them off at the pass? I hate that cliche.....). He was not expecting that two massive Peruvian vessels would be sent into Uruguayan waters.

Off the River Plate estuary, in thick fog, the two Peruvian leviathan's sailed line astern. Their look-outs saw nothing in the gloom and the ships continued heading in a northerly direction at top speed. But aboard the Uttoxeter, The Scottish Captain, Burt Sye, had spotted the enemy vessels. He ordered his ship to head directly for the South American ships. Rear-Admiral Oblitas, aboard the Lima, spotted the little frigate when she was almost on top of her. He ordered a sharp turn to port; Cublitas, caught out by this sudden manoeuvre, ordered a turn to starboard.

These orders played straight into the hands of Captain Sye. He continued straight on and ordered his gunners to open fire to port and starboard. The Peruvian ships also began firing....but with disastrous consequences. Just as the wily Sye had planned, the two enemy ships were simply at too close a range; their cannonballs sailed over the Uttoxeter, and straight into the other vessel. Within seconds, both Cublitas and Oblitas had to order abandon ship as their once pround warships sank beneath the waves.

It was a stunning victory for the Royal Navy - and ended the Peruvian Navy's dominance of South American waters forever.....

Fun Factoid: The descendents of Oblitas and Cublitas got their revenge. In the 1974 World Cup, Oblitas and Cublitas, great, great, great grandsons of the Peruvian Admirals, were in the Peruvian team that beat Scotland 3-1. Amazing!!

Other than disgusting me with the S***ER mention, that is an amazing tale.

Just one thing though, I am getting some crazy emails saying the Battle of the River Plate took place during WW2. Any comment sir?

Warspite1

This was the First Battle of The River Plate. Because the G7YPBW is so little known, the 1939 Battle - which was also a stunning victory for the Royal Navy - is simply called The Battle, but it should be the Second Battle.

[parusski]

Warspite1

This was the First Battle of The River Plate. Because the G7YPBW is so little known, the 1939 Battle - which was also a stunning victory for the Royal Navy - is simply called The Battle, but it should be the Second Battle.

Riiiiiigggghhhht.

One last question and then you can get back to game ideas. Has the Royal NavaL ever had anything other than a stunning victory???

Oh, and you are really bothering me about this SitOsuCCcksER issue--you decipher it.

[Capt. Harlock]

I am getting some crazy emails saying the Battle of the River Plate took place during WW2. Any comment sir?

That would be why Warspite mentioned "The First Battle of the River Plate". The battle in WW2 led to the loss of the pocket battleship Graf Spee, and became so much more famous that most are not aware of the first battle.

Incidentally, British Intelligence took credit for the scuttling of the Graf Spee, claiming that they had fooled the German captain into thinking there was a large RN force nearby, while the British had actually been reinforced by only one additional cruiser. Lately, it has been reported that the Graf Spee suffered a fatal hit during the action which destroyed its fuel processing plant. (She ran on diesel engines.) She had less than twenty-four hours' usable fuel left, and so had no chance of escaping to home.

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

I am getting some crazy emails saying the Battle of the River Plate took place during WW2. Any comment sir?

That would be why Warspite mentioned "The First Battle of the River Plate". The battle in WW2 led to the loss of the pocket battleship Graf Spee, and became so much more famous that most are not aware of the first battle.

Incidentally, British Intelligence took credit for the scuttling of the Graf Spee, claiming that they had fooled the German captain into thinking there was a large RN force nearby, while the British had actually been reinforced by only one additional cruiser. Lately, it has been reported that the Graf Spee suffered a fatal hit during the action which destroyed its fuel processing plant. (She ran on diesel engines.) She had less than twenty-four hours' usable fuel left, and so had no chance of escaping to home.

engines.) She had less than twenty-four hours' usable fuel left, and so had no chance of escaping to home.

I nearly fell outta my chair to see you post on this thread Capt. Harlock.

Thanks for the info. I will do some more research.

[nate25]

I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet, but. . .

We need to have some political variations thrown in a random selector.

Everyone knows that what brought on the G7YPBW was the Peruvians' utter refusal to pronounce Uttoxeter correctly.

Their insistence on pronouncing with a short "u" instead of a long "u" infuriated the British, and when the talks broke down over the rights of ownership for the BPB formulas, well. . . it hit the fan.

All I'm saying is, What if it had been the French who mispronounced Uttoxeter? Or the Prussians?

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: nate25

I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet, but. . .

We need to have some political variations thrown in a random selector.

Everyone knows that what brought on the G7YPBW was the Peruvians' utter refusal to pronounce Uttoxeter correctly.

Their insistence on pronouncing with a short "u" instead of a long "u" infuriated the British, and when the talks broke down over the rights of ownership for the BPB formulas, well. . . it hit the fan.

All I'm saying is, What if it had been the French who mispronounced Uttoxeter? Or the Prussians?

Well I for one prefer the John/Peter way of pronouncing Uttoxeter. I would also support total war if either the Frenchies or Prussians even said Uttoxeter.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: nate25

I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet, but. . .

We need to have some political variations thrown in a random selector.

Everyone knows that what brought on the G7YPBW was the Peruvians' utter refusal to pronounce Uttoxeter correctly.

Their insistence on pronouncing with a short "u" instead of a long "u" infuriated the British, and when the talks broke down over the rights of ownership for the BPB formulas, well. . . it hit the fan.

All I'm saying is, What if it had been the French who mispronounced Uttoxeter? Or the Prussians?

Warspite1

Another excellent point, and I am already factoring in some potential what-ifs.

As you say, the war began between the Peruvians and the British. The French, sensing they could strike a weakened British, then opportunistically declared war, taking the Spanish with them (at least temporarily). The Austrians and Russians joined in with the British, while the Prussians sat on the fence awaiting developments. The Americans were latecomers to the war - a forerunner of the two World Wars to come [;)] - but eventually came in on the side of the British.

What I need to decide - with your help - is what options can we allow? The Brazilians for example were on the verge of declaring war on everybody as it was their Peanut Brittle farms that were being destroyed. In the end they stayed out as they were busy preparing for the first football World Cup tournament in Uruguay in 1930. We could explore more countries coming in or countries changing sides??

[parusski]

they were busy preparing for the first football World Cup tournament in Uruguay in 1930. We could explore more countries coming in or countries changing sides??

[nate25]

OR. . . or,

What if it hadn't been Staffs that was insulted with the mispronouciations, but someone else?

To this day, the Peruvians' favorite condiment is pronounced WorCHESTERshire sauce, not the correct way.

I'm just saying. . .

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: parusski

Warspite1

This was the First Battle of The River Plate. Because the G7YPBW is so little known, the 1939 Battle - which was also a stunning victory for the Royal Navy - is simply called The Battle, but it should be the Second Battle.

Riiiiiigggghhhht.

One last question and then you can get back to game ideas. Has the Royal Navy ever had anything other than a stunning victory???

Warspite1

Er, no not really, and the fifteen major engagements won during the G7YPBW by Admiral "Onesize" Fitzhall were just part of the great history.

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: parusski

Warspite1

This was the First Battle of The River Plate. Because the G7YPBW is so little known, the 1939 Battle - which was also a stunning victory for the Royal Navy - is simply called The Battle, but it should be the Second Battle.

Riiiiiigggghhhht.

One last question and then you can get back to game ideas. Has the Royal Navy ever had anything other than a stunning victory???

Warspite1

Er, no not really, and the fifteen major engagements won during the G7YPBW by Admiral "Onesize" Fitzhall were just part of the great history.

Yeah, thought so.

To this day, the Peruvians' favorite condiment is pronounced WorCHESTERshire sauce, not the correct way.

I'm just saying. . .

And again a cause for a declaration of war.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: nate25

OR. . . or,

What if it hadn't been Staffs that was insulted with the mispronouciations, but someone else?

To this day, the Peruvians' favorite condiment is pronounced WorCHESTERshire sauce, not the correct way.

I'm just saying. . .

Warspite1

It wasn't just pronounciation either. The uneasy peace between the US and the UK was almost shattered by the inability of the Americans to spell basic words.

Before the battle of Caracas the British and the Americans came up with a colour code to allow each army to communicate it's plans to the other. Unfortunately mid-way through the battle, the Americans wanted to advance. A runner was sent by the US to the British generals. The message was read with complete incredulity by the British officers; "we go forward on the Color red".

"What does that mean?" they asked one another. "c-o-l-o-r?" "Nope, no idea". As can be imagined, the British failed to advance as they did not - indeed could not be expected
- to understand such unclear verbiage.

[nate25]

Always remember, it's in an American's nature to fix something that's broken or at the very least improve it.