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"favor de no tocar la ropa"

Perhaps it was your fault for not conjugating the right verbo, senor. "Por favor de no destruir la ropa" sounds more direct and to the point...
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"favor de no tocar la ropa"

Perhaps it was your fault for not conjugating the right verbo, senor. "Por favor de no destruir la ropa" sounds more direct and to the point...

True, I should have been more specific and told NOT to wash my leather chaps with the opening in back. Damn, I loved those things.


On an aside, if Musashi was rolled off the blocks on Dec 1, she must have motored down to the Banda Sea immediately. I wonder if she still had the naval architects and subcontractors aboard in the fashion of King George V.
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"favor de no tocar la ropa"

Perhaps it was your fault for not conjugating the right verbo, senor. "Por favor de no destruir la ropa" sounds more direct and to the point...

True, I should have been more specific and told NOT to wash my leather chaps with the opening in back. Damn, I loved those things.


On an aside, if Musashi was rolled off the blocks on Dec 1, she must have motored down to the Banda Sea immediately. I wonder if she still had the naval architects and subcontractors aboard in the fashion of King George V.
Right BB class, but it was Prince of Wales that met Bismarck with shipyard men aboard [just in case some of your readers were scratching their heads about the KG V reference].
Re: the "availability date", the manual does say it is an estimate and I think I read on this forum that you can direct more effort to certain ships in the Beta version now out, so possibly Musashi was accelerated when Captial ship losses got higher.
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********A Turret, Musashi, 02;20, Dec. 7, 1942(c)********


The sounds of enemy 6 inch and 5 inch rounds can be heard overhead. The ammunition elevator stops abruptly at its designed postion. Where there should have been an 18 in. round and bags of powder, there are instead 4 large bowls of steaming hot fish head soup with soy curd in beautiful new chrysanthemum-themed porcelain.

Chief Gunner: No, NO, NO, NO, NO! I need AP!

Asst: <on headset> The chief wants AP. No more soup.......Hai! Sir, it's the galley. It seems there may be a design or installation error. They wonder if you would prefer salted sea urchin roe?
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Right BB class, but it was Prince of Wales that met Bismarck with shipyard men aboard [just in case some of your readers were scratching their heads about the KG V reference].....

Ah, yes. You are right. King Geroge V was involved later.
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This is something we lofty-in-rank Admirals might assign to staff but everybody just makes fun of us around the house so, instead, I propose we go to the "croud" and ask the Shinto Fan Boys this simple question:

Given the losses below, what CV/CVL/CVE will the LYB's have left on Dec 7, 1942(c) in Scenario 2?



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Question for Admiral Lord SPrior:


Did we not have some convincing evidence that one of the LYB flattops was sunk recently at the 32nd Naval Battle of Port Hedrand? Perhaps I am thinking of one of the BB's? The one hit by FAA Albacores.
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09:30...Nov 28


Allied conterstrike is woefully short of fighters, but the 3 carriers have been packed with SBD's...and they are ill-tempered. the ball clears the top tier and sails past the right field lights.......

Morning Air attack on TF, near Broome at 60,126

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 50



Allied aircraft
Albacore I x 12
F4F-4 Wildcat x 19
SBD-3 Dauntless x 61


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Albacore I: 4 destroyed, 6 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 6 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 8 destroyed, 8 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Unyo, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Shoho, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVL Zuiho, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Kaga, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
DD Naganami

Is this the battle you are asking about CM? [post #6586]. I think all those carriers except Kaga were likely deep divers ...

Edit- PS: BB Hyuga was hit by Albacores shortly after this battle, but I think it was only one torp.
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

This is something we lofty-in-rank Admirals might assign to staff but everybody just makes fun of us around the house so, instead, I propose we go to the "croud" and ask the Shinto Fan Boys this simple question:

Given the losses below, what CV/CVL/CVE will the LYB's have left on Dec 7, 1942(c) in Scenario 2?



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When was the last time you saw a Japanese CS? Many players will convert these, but-even in the accelerated timeframe that is Scenario 2, converted CS-CVLs won't be available until mid-1943.

Based upon my dead reckoning, uncounted in that list of IJ CVs / CVLs circa late 1942:

CV Shokaku
CV Zuikaku
CV Akagi
CVL Zuiho
CVL Shoho

There might be an other CVE or two as well that is unaccounted for.
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Right - CVL Ryuho [31 aircraft, 26 kts] and CVE Chuyo [27 a/c, 21 kts] arrive Nov. 25-28/42.
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In other news, Stalker fired The Mayan for "insubordination" [:D][:D]

I really shouldn't laugh but having estrogen as a neurotransmitter must be quite a challenge. I'm not saying testosterone is harmless either...but still.

In fairness, it was 60% The Mayan's fault, 30% Stalker Junior and 10% Stalker Girl. You will note this adds to 100% so I am completley blamess.

I think I probably had $400-500 of clothes and towels destroyed by The Mayan. I will admit some blame for letting it go on too long out of loyalty to the The Mayan....and truth be told...for entertainment value. I did warn her "favor de no tocar la ropa" but she was compelled to tweak "la senora".

I wonder if there are any French maids aroudn here?

Hate to break up the discussion thread about JJ's remaining Carriers, but I'm concerned that you have a potentially bigger disaster looming at home:
60% Mayan's fault + 30% Stalker Junior's fault + 10% Stalker Girls fault = 100% your fault, instead of 0% of the blame.

Here's the brutal math: without the Mayan, you have 0% of the necessary and willing experienced cleaning support now available for your household. A 30% presence of Stalker Junior will drift into a positive feedback loop creating 290% of standard household weekly mess in one-third the usual time.

The 10% initial involvement of stalker girl in the dust-up will upgrade to 100% of the urgent need to clean up the house after Stalker Junior does her best to maximize the home entropy.

Stalker Girl will soon be 100% pissed, and you, who were previously responsible for funding 100% of the Mayan's cleaning work effort, will now be the viewed by Stalker Girl as continuing to be 100% directly responsible for fixing said mess.

And, of course, you will be recipient of 100% of the blame when said mess hasn't been cleaned up before Stalker Girl exceeds her critical mass of tolerance for Stalker Junior's entropy project.

In short, your presumed "completely blameless" position will soon be transformed into 100% of the blame for the friggin' mess your house is in with no Mayan to clean it up.

The Mayan, of course, eagerly backed by the state of California's Household Worker Abuse Investigation Legal Task Force that your EDD taxes funded, will soon find you 100% responsible for the stress disability damages she is owed after it has been determined that it was you who forced her to work in a hostile home environment.

As they call out to the few brave remaining guys left on the ground performing close-in perimeter defense, covering the final dust-off evac helo as it takes off, "Good luck, Chuck!" [8|]
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Great heavens, man! I fear it's just the tip of the iceberg. Did the Mayan use, er, protection?

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The nerds guide to British Battships arrived to day. Boody excellent news in an otherwise crappy fortnight at work.

Honestly, I can't get enough of this kind of stuff.
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Honestly, I can't get enough of this kind of stuff.
What? The crappy fortnight at work? This AAR? The game? [&:]
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The book [8|]
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The nerds guide to British Battships arrived to day. Boody excellent news in an otherwise crappy fortnight at work.

Honestly, I can't get enough of this kind of stuff.
You sound like me - I have dozens of books covering WW1 & WW2 warship specs and I keep looking for more pictures of these elegant vessels. The web makes finding stuff a whole lot easier. It all started when I got a plastic model of USS Fletcher for Christmas when I was about 9 years old. Been a junkie ever since.
I drooled over the thought of owning Gary Grigsby's Pacific War [board game version] but it was expensive and I never had space to lay it out undisturbed by kids and dogs. WITP-AE has filled that item on my bucket list [and there is no chance of losing the little cardboard unit counters, either]!
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Gary Grigsby's Pacific War [board game version]

I think that was Mark Herman's published by Victory Games. I have that and played it twice.

This was the first book about naval history I ever bought, I think I was 10.
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The nerds guide to British Battships arrived to day. Boody excellent news in an otherwise crappy fortnight at work.

Honestly, I can't get enough of this kind of stuff.

Nice cover illustration. Does it say where the water is leaking in on Royal Sovereign?
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water is leaking
Don't sweat the leaks. Worry about the floods.
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The nerds guide to British Battships arrived to day. Boody excellent news in an otherwise crappy fortnight at work.

Honestly, I can't get enough of this kind of stuff.

Nice cover illustration. Does it say where the water is leaking in on Royal Sovereign?


As long as its leaking- your still afloat.
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