Mounted Infantry

[k9mike]

Question for you guys....
What would make a vehicle(armored track) not move when infantry is mounted in it? I have had where I have mounted my infantry inside track vehicles and then the vehicle would not move at any point/phase after that....[&:]

[Mobius]

Did you run the halftrack into some dense woods by chance?

[rickier65]

ORIGINAL: k9mike

Question for you guys....
What would make a vehicle(armored track) not move when infantry is mounted in it? I have had where I have mounted my infantry inside track vehicles and then the vehicle would not move at any point/phase after that....[&:]

I can not think of any situation where mounting an infantry unit would legitimately cause the vehicle to be unable to move. I can think of several occasions where vehicles can't move though.

If you have saved game could you attach it? If it's a random game, I would need the scenario file as well.

Make sure you have checked the unit icons in the left hand panel to see if you have track/engine damage or if you are bogged down if you're playing with breakdowns on.

Also, check the terrain the vehicle is in to see if it has somehow gotten into terrain it can't move in. That shouldn't happen, but we've seen occasional instances where this has happened (though I thought we had taken care of those).

Thanks
Rick

[Mad Russian]

Is the vehicle part of a platoon that has been given orders?

Good Hunting.

MR

[k9mike]

I am thinking it has something to do with a conflict of orders like MR is saying. I guess I just get the impression I can put troops in a vehicle and the vehicle will move accordingly...However, I think they are seperate and different orders given to one group could cause a conflict with the track vehicle and not allow it to move...or something like that. Wish it was simpler where each infantry group can move independently and get into a vehicle and the vehicle execute orders to go where need be. Abit confusing. Also, Why cant AT guns make minor adjustments whenever they have been positioned? I know that you cant make large moves, and such would need a vehicle...But, you would think that they would be able to move a bit to get into a slightly better position if need be. Sorry bout the Noob questions...just not used to this type of style of game. I usually play RTS and such. Just wanted to try playing Turn Based..like the slower pace...getting old. lol
Mike

[rickier65]

ORIGINAL: k9mike

I am thinking it has something to do with a conflict of orders like MR is saying. I guess I just get the impression I can put troops in a vehicle and the vehicle will move accordingly...However, I think they are seperate and different orders given to one group could cause a conflict with the track vehicle and not allow it to move...or something like that. Wish it was simpler where each infantry group can move independently and get into a vehicle and the vehicle execute orders to go where need be. Abit confusing. Also, Why cant AT guns make minor adjustments whenever they have been positioned? I know that you cant make large moves, and such would need a vehicle...But, you would think that they would be able to move a bit to get into a slightly better position if need be. Sorry bout the Noob questions...just not used to this type of style of game. I usually play RTS and such. Just wanted to try playing Turn Based..like the slower pace...getting old. lol
Mike

k9mike,

The orders of the infantry unit should have no affect on the movement of the tracked vehicle. However the base order give to the HQ unit of the tracked vehicle can affect whether the tracked vehicle can move. The order system can be a little hard to understand. But base order given to the HQ unit of each platoon has a significant affect on what orders are available to give to other members of the the platoon.

In one of the beta patches, we introduced some mobile AT guns for both the german and russian player. These are the smaller 37/45mm AT guns. They will have the work mobile as part of the name. They show up in random games, but do not show up in set battles, unless the designer of the set battle incorporated them.

PCO makes a good transition from a RTS to a turn based game I think.

And please don't hesitate to ask any questions, we may not always be able to answer it, but we'll try.

Thanks
rick

[k9mike]

Thanks Rick for the very nice reply. I guess I need to learn abit more about the game. But, is a good game and enjoy it. Thanks again.
Mike

[Mad Russian]

Each platoon is separate.

Whether or not it is infantry or vehicular.

If infantry in loaded on/into a vehicle they will not move. The vehicle will move, just as in real life. Just as in real life you will give the vehicle the movement order. PCO uses a platoon movement orders format. You give the platoon commander whatever orders you want for the vehicles of the platoon. After the unit commander has been given his orders you can then give specific orders to individual units in the platoon if you desire that they do something other than a mirror of the leader.

Units in the platoon will all use the same base order. You cannot give a Defend order to the platoon commander and a Rush order to one of the units of the platoon. All units in the platoon will adhere to the same order as the Platoon commander.

Hope this helps.

Good Hunting.

MR

[k9mike]

Thx again for the explanation. Think there might have been a conflict where there was a defend command given and thats why.
So...If I mount up infantry into each track unit of the platoon....then I should be able to give a command order for the Platoon Commander of the track unit...and they move out.
Does it matter what units mount up into what track? Ie...should the platoon commander for the infantry unit get into the Platoon Commander's Track unit?
Mad Russian...Where at in Tx are you from? I live in Texas as well....Down by Border west of San Antonio..[:D]
Mike

[rickier65]

ORIGINAL: k9mike

Thx again for the explanation. Think there might have been a conflict where there was a defend command given and thats why.
So...If I mount up infantry into each track unit of the platoon....then I should be able to give a command order for the Platoon Commander of the track unit...and they move out.
Does it matter what units mount up into what track? Ie...should the platoon commander for the infantry unit get into the Platoon Commander's Track unit?
Mad Russian...Where at in Tx are you from? I live in Texas as well....Down by Border west of San Antonio..[:D]
Mike

That's correct, mount your infantry units into the HT's Then Give the Halftrack platoon commander some kind of move order, and all of the HT vehicles in that platoon will move. You can then customize each of the HT vehicles orders. For example if you want to adjust their path, of even want one or two to hold their position.

Also, there is a small cover benefit to the inf riding in a HT vs small arms fire as opposed to riding exposed on tanks . But If the vehicle gets kia'd from some AT fire then theres also a good chance that the squad will take losses or get kia'd as well. So mounting your troops is a risk if you're expecting AT fire.

And it doesn't matter which infantry squad loads into which HT vehicle.

Thanks
rick

[k9mike]

Thx again Rick. If I come across any other problem involving this type situation...I will send you the files so you can check it out.
Mike

[Mad Russian]

West Texas at the moment. Trying to keep from having to move to Houston.

Good Hunting.

MR