The history does Not do it agaign

Don Doom · Post by **Don Doom** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 8:22 am

All I have to say on their T34 show is @#!$%^&*^%$&#!!!! It su#ked. Out os 60min's maybe 16 to 17 min was on the T34. The rest was bull on stalin and his generals. The Crew first hand accounts were good, I like them. I just thought there would be more on the tank and less on political Bulls&*^.
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Les_the_Sarge_9_1 · Post by **Les_the_Sarge_9_1** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 6:42 pm

Don you didnt reeeeeeeeally expect 60 minutes on just the T-34 did you, thats kinda naive dont you think.

wmosner · Post by **wmosner** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 8:06 pm

I taped the show so I can at least fast forward thru the political crap to get to the important minutes about the T-34. I am thankful to the History Channel for giving us anything at all on the T-34.

wmosner · Post by **wmosner** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 8:25 pm

Doom,

Great image, did you do it yourself and how did you put it in your message.

Bill

Don Doom · Post by **Don Doom** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 11:50 pm

Originally posted by wmosner:
Doom,

Great image, did you do it yourself and how did you put it in your message.

Bill

wmosner, Thanks, Just right click the graphic and it will lead you to where I got it. I am not that good, I just started learning paint shop pro last month. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
don <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

Don Doom · Post by **Don Doom** » Mon Dec 31, 2001 11:57 pm

Originally posted by Les the Sarge 9-1:
Don you didnt reeeeeeeeally expect 60 minutes on just the T-34 did you, thats kinda naive dont you think.

9-1, I was hoping for more combat footage that russia is hording from the war, last reported there is one large vault of film, that no one has viewed since the war. The parts that they did show where pretty good, I did like the crew stories, esp. the machine gunners story about being ambushed in a small village by a Tiger and how he got the tank away. <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <img src="redface.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
don

Les_the_Sarge_9_1 · Post by **Les_the_Sarge_9_1** » Tue Jan 01, 2002 9:00 am

Has anyone other than me seen the 4 tape set (think it was just four tapes) labelled
WWII Russia

Titles are Russian Front, Liberation of the Motherland, Liberation of Europe and Germany Surrenders.

Nothing special about the tapes other than they are Russian source material. I thought the stuff was nicely different in perspective.

I have also seen some materials that were done by Walter Cronkite, some of it being the eastern front portion of the war as well, very nicely done.

To comment on "political crap though", I have never really hated the inclusion of this sort of material. It is relevant to the time period in most cases. History that gets re written is no longer history after all. If you want mind numbing politics though, try watching "Why we fight" man the allied rhetoric is incredibly over done hehe.

wmosner · Post by **wmosner** » Tue Jan 01, 2002 5:57 pm

Originally posted by Les the Sarge 9-1:
Has anyone other than me seen the 4 tape set (think it was just four tapes) labelled
WWII Russia

Titles are Russian Front, Liberation of the Motherland, Liberation of Europe and Germany Surrenders.

Nothing special about the tapes other than they are Russian source material. I thought the stuff was nicely different in perspective.

I have also seen some materials that were done by Walter Cronkite, some of it being the eastern front portion of the war as well, very nicely done.

To comment on "political crap though", I have never really hated the inclusion of this sort of material. It is relevant to the time period in most cases. History that gets re written is no longer history after all. If you want mind numbing politics though, try watching "Why we fight" man the allied rhetoric is incredibly over done hehe.

I have nothing against history, Sarge, it is a subject that is not taught or studied too well in schools today. But, the show was supposed to be about the T-34 tank. When a 1 hour show is titled Battlefront-The T-34 tank I would like to see more than approx. 16 or 17 minutes on the vehicle. I have watched other shows about Stalin and his politics and enjoyed them greatly because that was what I was expecting. I was just a little peeved on this show because I expected more on the tank itself.

Bill