Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)

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This is great news about Naval HQs. Who would have thought it would be possible to use them to resupply torps? I assume this only is the case for those that are also command HQs? So only ones like the 4th and 5th Fleets and the Southeast Area Fleet, but not those that are strict naval HQ's (Southern, 1st, 2nd etc)?

Regarding the float plane resizing - so you were only talking about the few in Japan that are not restricted? Makes good sense. Speeds up training by getting more pilot slots available.

Back to the Norm - what about that killer service rating? One of the important things about FPs is that they are in the air everyday (or at least you want them to be). Fewer planes in the air means less of an arc searched. So, comparing the Jake to the Norm, it basically comes down to a choice between:

A) A Jake unit with very nearly 100% of its planes service ready at a search range of 10-12

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B) A Norm unit with maybe 50% of its planes service ready at a search range of 12-15

I'd definitely go with "A".
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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)

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Mike,

I was wondering who you have commanding the Southern Army? I ask because I am in the process of starting a new GC and was thinking of replacing him (he's got some miserable leadership and land combat ratings) but I'm not sure what attributes are essential to army and corps HQs.

I know there was once a thread that spelled out the kinds of things a player should look for in commanders of different types of units, but I was unable to find it using the forum search function.
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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)

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My understanding is that ALL Naval HQs can supply torpedoes to planes. It might be that you need twice the supply required to make this happen, but I haven't had to rely on just a Naval HQ for torpedoes yet. Anyone got a better answer here??

I had mentioned the Command Naval HQs as Japan has so few Command HQS at all. You have Southern Command, China, and one at Tokyo. You need them to help out with LCU upgrades and rebuilding shattered divisions.

My game is the first for me as Japan to have reached '43. I'm now just into July '43 and the Norm comes out in August. It is some testing this time around and I will see if having the extra range vs higher service rating is that much of a problem. The range is not what you said (see screenshot).

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Icedawg, I am so glad you asked this question! I never looked at the Southern Army commander. It's the original commander, Terauchi. His stats are:

Leadership: 30
Inspiration: 57
Land: 52
Aggressiveness: 65

I'm going to replace him with Watanabe:

Leadership: 73
Inspiration: 65
Land: 72
Aggressiveness: 63
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Guys, I never realized there were different types of naval HQs. What's the difference between a Naval HQ and a Naval Command HQ?
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Well, Command HQs can torp enable air groups and add to combat if in range. For example, I've got SE Fleet HQ at [censored] without an Air HQ and all air groups at [censored] carry torps. Also, as nygiants points out, Command HQs help LCUs recover and draw replacements.
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Well, Command HQs can torp enable air groups and add to combat if in range. For example, I've got SE Fleet HQ at [censored] without an Air HQ and all air groups at [censored] carry torps. Also, as nygiants points out, Command HQs help LCUs recover and draw replacements.

OMG, I had no clue there were naval command HQs. Now I gotta look at what's what and where it is. [X(]
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SE Fleet, 5th Fleet and 4th Fleet as far as I know.
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Yeah, I checked them out and that's the list I got.
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Yeah, I checked them out and that's the list I got.

What about those that arrive later? SW Fleet? It will probaly be in May that i can finally start an PBEM, and i will still learn day by day.=D

Btw, how much do you change leaders in different levels?
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OMG, I had no clue there were naval command HQs. Now I gotta look at what's what and where it is.

At Last! A chink in the armor. lol
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Yeah, I checked them out and that's the list I got.

What about those that arrive later? SW Fleet? It will probaly be in May that i can finally start an PBEM, and i will still learn day by day.=D

Btw, how much do you change leaders in different levels?

I don't know about SW Fleet HQ. I'll let you know in 63 game days. [;)]

I check all my division commanders that attack. I have neglected (until this turn) to check my HQs. That was a big mistake in my opinion. I'll check the occasional brigade commander. Changing commanders can suck up a lot of PPs unfortunately.
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Very funny, Zulu. [:'(] [:D]
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I look forward to playing IJ one day, as this is my first run at the game, its more of an exercise in game mechanics and OOBs. I have taken a couple of stickies from your AAR for future use. I hope you don't mind the occasional intrusion.



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Zulu, I appreciate your "intrusion". You bring a very different perspective. I'm gaining intel and taking notes as well. [;)]
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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Yeah, I checked them out and that's the list I got.

What about those that arrive later? SW Fleet? It will probaly be in May that i can finally start an PBEM, and i will still learn day by day.=D

Btw, how much do you change leaders in different levels?

I don't know about SW Fleet HQ. I'll let you know in 63 game days. [;)]

I check all my division commanders that attack. I have neglected (until this turn) to check my HQs. That was a big mistake in my opinion. I'll check the occasional brigade commander. Changing commanders can suck up a lot of PPs unfortunately.

This game could be played in big teams doing real staff work planning and calculating, could get to experience some army/navy rivalry for real.=D
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Biggest thing about command HQ's for me is that they enable LCU TOE upgrades.  You have to be in range of one for an upgrade. 
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Yeah, that's really important, Pax. Gotta figure out all the command HQs and place them appropriately.
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My understanding is that ALL Naval HQs can supply torpedoes to planes. It might be that you need twice the supply required to make this happen, but I haven't had to rely on just a Naval HQ for torpedoes yet. Anyone got a better answer here??

I had mentioned the Command Naval HQs as Japan has so few Command HQS at all. You have Southern Command, China, and one at Tokyo. You need them to help out with LCU upgrades and rebuilding shattered divisions.

My game is the first for me as Japan to have reached '43. I'm now just into July '43 and the Norm comes out in August. It is some testing this time around and I will see if having the extra range vs higher service rating is that much of a problem. The range is not what you said (see screenshot).

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[X(]

All this time I've been thinking the Jake had a normal range of 10 when it's actually the extended range that is equal to 10! What a d*mb#ss I am. Luckily, my game is in the initial stages, so it's not a big deal to make some changes to my aircraft factories.

This definitely makes the Norm/Jake comparison a bit fuzzier than I had thought. I think I will use a mix of the two in the future. The long range of the Norm along with the reliability of the Jake might make a nice combination.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention ny59giants.
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ORIGINAL: Cribtop

SE Fleet, 5th Fleet and 4th Fleet as far as I know.

And Combined Fleet.
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