Where the eastern wind is blowing... AAR against Canoerebel

[Historiker]

Because what if there is another way to delay the US counteroffensive? What if there is a way to force the US player to leave the script and fight in another area, completely on Japanese terms, where half of the year is invasion-proof? Instead of fighting very close to major bases or even supply sources, perhaps it is possible to force the US player to fight in dreadful conditions with few built-up bases, and without any cover for his own SLOCs other than his CVs can provide? Isnt that better than fighting the entire Australian or Indian army over terrain that ultimately never can be held for more than a short period of time?

What are you planning to force him not to ignore that area?
Why should he care about the Jap sitting in Anchorage?

[Hortlund]

ORIGINAL: Historiker
What are you planning to force him not to ignore that area?
Why should he care about the Jap sitting in Anchorage?

Just wait and see [;)]

[Historiker]

allright

[obvert]

I sense the plan is beginning to grow with the opportunity provided. Ready and waiting for more info on the next stage.

[desicat]

This is what makes a game interesting. So many players on both sides "follow the script" of what to do or not do, what can or can't be done. It is nice to see the Japanese being played differently.

PH is correct, the KB down south isn't going to accomplish anything unless they can bring the US CV's to battle - and no Allied player will allow that to happen.

Going after China should always be a must, especially in Scenario Two where the Japanese have more manpower and air assets. Both can be thrown into China and still leave the fleet to deal with the Allies.

The NorthPac attack brings US/Canadian resource areas into bombing range and may well delay US deployment efforts. This will be interesting.

[PaxMondo]

I look at Darwin and PM as trip wires; Allies need to take them in order to make a 43/44 offensive in those respective areas.  After mid-44 the allies can jump either or both.  But, they are nothing more than that.  Diligent and efective recon and intel can replace either or both. 
 
Thus I consider them to be luxuries, not necessities.  If my diligence slacks off, I still have my trip wire.
 

[Captain Cruft]

I like it. Target Alberta perhaps? A little bit of oil and a massive threat to the US.

[Ossian]

I like your thinking. It actually correlates with a lot of stuff that's been swimming around in my own noggin recently. I'm beginning to get the feeling this match could become a proper classic. Cannot wait to see what happens.

[Cribtop]

This is quickly becoming a fascinating struggle. I agree with Ossian - we could be in for a treat with these AARs.

[AcePylut9]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

I'll butt out after this, I really should, but there's no such thing as a reef 10,000 feet down.

It's a figure of speech to indicate what was once floating on the surface, is now resting on the ocean floor.

What did the Allies do with these Aleuts they kept? Use them as a staging ground to invade Hokkaido? No.

Our game ended in Dec '42 due to real-life concerns - but at the time, I had most of the Aleuts built up and stocked well... and the winter weather ended soon. I had many possible attack routes planned for '43 - and because I owned the Aleuts, the Kuriles were one location on the board for invasion.

Also, more importantly, controlling the Aleuts for the Allies cuts down on a fair number of behind the line KB raiding. When owned as the Japanese, it's much more open and the Allies have to cover/picket line a whole heck of a lot more ocean.

At this time of year, things are getting very brisk up there. Very shortly you will not be able to operate aircraft carriers because everything (and I do mean everything) will be covered in sheets of ice. Get the bleep out of there now!

[Capt. Harlock]

I am certain of two things.
1) Canoerebel is expecting me to invade Port Moresby.
2) Canoerebel is expecting me to invade Darwin.

Why? Because everyone is doing it when they play as Japan. Why is everyone doing it when they play as Japan? They think it is of vital importance to hold those pieces of land so that the US player cannot use those bases to stage offensive operations towards the NEI/Philippines.

For whatever my opinion is worth, Darwin is not worth much but Port Moresby could be. Supplies move slowly in Northern Australia, so cutting off the shipping to that coast makes counter-moves in the DEI much more difficult for the Allies. One point, however; nearly the same result can be achieved by taking Milne Bay.

[Hortlund]

Thanks guys, lots of good discussion here. I will get into more detail about my NoPac plans later.

This is actually not something I was planning at game start, but when I realized that Canoe was not going to fight up north, I decided to change my plans. There are precious few US units at game start up north, and if he fails to reinforce up there, its pretty much open road all the way to Seattle.

I have 2nd Div up there now, and Im reinforcing with the Gds mixed Bde and alot of support units. I also have pretty strong surface forces up there. In a few weeks, you can probably look forward to seeing SCTFs raid San Fransisco. That should be fun.

[Hortlund]

The operation against Lauterm was a great success. We are now ashore with over 400 AV, facing us are a disorganised rabble of troops, apparently flown in from all around. Less than 30 AV will not hold us for long.

I think Canoe did not really expect I would mount such an operation without KB-cover in the face of Force Z. Well, fortune favours the bold. This invasion should also serve to put some doubts in Canoes head about how much he can delay me even when he tries and commits large surface and carrier forces.

The 4 BBs under Tanaka did not have to fight, and we are pulling everything back to Ambon immideately. This despite the fact that not all units are offloaded yet. By pulling back now we dodge any counterstrike from Canoe - instead he will hit empty ocean.

We should be able to trap anything left on Timor now. The two airfields should serve as a good staging point for my Bettys and I can also cut off Darwin from now on.

[Q-Ball]

ORIGINAL: Panzerjaeger Hortlund

In a few weeks, you can probably look forward to seeing SCTFs raid San Fransisco. That should be fun.

This is the first time I can remember it possibly coming into play, but.....there is a big fort at the harbor entrance, you can't really raid into SF Bay

CV raid though....that would be cool

[geofflambert]

I'm an Idiot, excuse me please

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Seattle? SF? You don't have the oil to play around there, but what could you do if you did? This northern strategy poses no threat to Canoe and he can ignore it for the most part. I know, I promised to butt out, but I can't help myself and I'll try to behave. He has 4 CVs that outgun yours and a fifth arriving. Soon it will not be a question of you forcing him into a carrier battle, it will be him forcing you. Beware.

There are analyses on the open forum by Alfred, and in AARs by Nemo, which show very clearly how your contention is incorrect. PH knows what he's doing. Do some research, OK?

[Historiker]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Seattle? SF? You don't have the oil to play around there, but what could you do if you did? This northern strategy poses no threat to Canoe and he can ignore it for the most part. I know, I promised to butt out, but I can't help myself and I'll try to behave. He has 4 CVs that outgun yours and a fifth arriving. Soon it will not be a question of you forcing him into a carrier battle, it will be him forcing you. Beware.

There are analyses on the open forum by Alfred, and in AARs by Nemo, which show very clearly how your contention is incorrect. PH knows what he's doing. Do some research, OK?

But he uses a bigger letters! That should be worth something, no? [;)]

[geofflambert]

But he uses a bigger letters! That should be worth something, no? [;)]

My eyes ain't so good anymore. I wish everybody used bigger letters.

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

But he uses a bigger letters! That should be worth something, no? [;)]

My eyes ain't so good anymore. I wish everybody used bigger letters.

I like those letters. I'm at -10.5 diopters and have a nice little cataract garden coming up. I LOVE my 50s!

[Historiker]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

But he uses a bigger letters! That should be worth something, no? [;)]

My eyes ain't so good anymore. I wish everybody used bigger letters.

When you hit Strg and roll the mousewheel, you can increase the size of the website you are visiting!
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