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USS Yorktown arrived today. I'll be working out who her escorts will be over the next few days. I may have her and Saratoga move to Pearl Harbor with their destroyers and just meet the cruisers at PH.

I like a CV, 3 CA/CL/CLAA, and 8 DDs in my CV TFs. As you are learning, there are not enough escorts to go around and this is a good balance.

You get a complete P-39 (at start in Eastern USA as 39th PG) and P-40 (49th PG come in late December) in the USA during December (3 x 25 and 5 plane HQ group). I like to transport them to Australia as quickly as possible. They both don't need PP which always helps.
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USS Yorktown arrived today. I'll be working out who her escorts will be over the next few days. I may have her and Saratoga move to Pearl Harbor with their destroyers and just meet the cruisers at PH.

I like a CV, 3 CA/CL/CLAA, and 8 DDs in my CV TFs. As you are learning, there are not enough escorts to go around and this is a good balance.

You get a complete P-39 (at start in Eastern USA as 39th PG) and P-40 (49th PG come in late December) in the USA during December (3 x 25 and 5 plane HQ group). I like to transport them to Australia as quickly as possible. They both don't need PP which always helps.

I'd love to know where you come up with all those DDs. I'm spread pretty thin right now. I've reserved the Sims Class shipment of 8 DDs for CV escorts and I might be able to scrounge up 8 from PH, but they will be poor quality DDs. As for cruisers, I'm going to be thin on those for a while, too.
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Combat Report - 12/30/1941

- Fighter sweep over Singapore was apparently intended to get some retribution for yesterday's Sally Slaughter. I lost a bunch of Buffaloes against Oscars.
- Landings at Tarakan, Cebu, and Zamboanga


Very quiet turn. I know the mKB was in port yesterday, and with that CVE having to spend some time repairing, I don't know when I'll be seeing them leave port again. The KB has been AWOL for about a week. SigInt indicated several heavy radio contacts at sea. One was up near Attu Island, the other was between Truk and Rabaul. I'd be happy as a lark if the KB were up north. If he is sending them to the Coral Sea, then my CVs have more or less wasted a couple of weeks traveling to NZ. We shall see!
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Orders Summary - 12/31/1941

- China changed. It appears that he is withdrawing from Changsha. Moreover, he has marched at least 3 large units down to Sinyang from the north. They are attempting to surround my attackers. I've ordered the troops in Sinyang to pull back toward Hankow, the troops in Hankow to deliberate attack, and the troops in Changsha to bombard the retreating Japanese
- Force Z is going to rush up to take a shot at a big landing fleet north of Ternate. Its pretty far into his safe zone so a) he probably isn't expecting it, and b) my ships might not come home. They will come back south right after the attack, refuel and take up their (much safer) station once more

I have sorted out the escorts for Saratoga and Yorktown. It will probably be 2 weeks before I have them ready for missions
Saratoga
CA Louisville
CL Raleigh (PH)
CL Helena (PH)
CL Honolulu (PH)
DD Cummings (PH)
DD Case (PH)
DD Conyngham (PH)
DD Shaw (PH)
DD Reed (PH)
DD Tucker (PH)
DD Cassin (PH)
DD Allen (PH)

Yorktown
CA Indianapolis (returning to PH)
CL St. Louis (16 days in PH Shipyard)
CL Detroit (returning to PH)
CL Phoenix (returning to PH)
DD Sims
DD Hughes
DD Anderson
DD Hammann
DD Mustin
DD Russell
DD O'Brian
DD Wake

All those already at PH will leave for SD in a couple days and will escort CA New Orleans and BB Oklahoma to the shipyards around SD. Those returning to PH will leave for SD after the St. Louis is repaired and will probably escort two BBs to the San Francisco area before shooting down the coast to meet up with Yorktown.

So you see that it will be some time yet before these two carriers are ready to take up their stations.



One other thing: He took Moulmein last turn and is massing his forces there. I expect his Burma campaign to start soon, so I'll update you on my plan of action for Burma. I'm doing it a bit different than I did in the previous game, so there is a good chance I've screwed it all up. Screenies coming next time I have the turn.
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Combat Report - 12/31/1941

A pretty good day for the Allies, I think.

- I put torpedoes into 2 xAKs with submarines.
- IJN sent two AMCs to mess with my ASW fleets around Fiji. They met up with 3 of my DDs to the west of Nadi. I sunk one of them on the spot and put 6 shells in the other resulting in heavy fires
- Force Z performed admirably, though I would have liked to see some more of the non-combat ships go down
Night Time Surface Combat, near Galeia at 79,101, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
APD Fuji, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
APD Hagi, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
E Hiyodori, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
E Hayabusa, Shell hits 1
PB Heiei Maru #7
xAK Syoka Maru, Shell hits 4, on fire
xAK Rokko Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Atago Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Meiyo Maru
xAK Santos Maru
xAK Igasa Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Sasago Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Zyuyo Maru
xAKL Hidaka Maru, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Raizan Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Shell hits 1
BC Repulse
CL Danae
DD Vampire
DD Kortenaer
DD Piet Hein
DD Tenedos
DD Electra
DD Express

The damage to Force Z is consistent with a turn of full speed. I don't see that that shell did anything at all. Later in the day, they attacked with LBA (28 Zeros and 33 Betties). Some of Ambon's CAP came over to help and shot down 4 Betties. None of the enemy aircraft hit their targets. I noticed that they were using bombs instead of torpedoes. Good thing I moved back south so fast.
- My attack in Hankow did not go so well. 1 to 2 odds against me. He brought in some reinforcements, though I think I damaged them enough that there is no need to leave. He still only has about 700 AV to my 2000.
- He is attacking in Subic Bay. I'm not likely to hold it for long.
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2000 definitely isn't enough to dislodge 700 from Hankow. It is a quadrupled defense hex. However, he will need his entire army in China to dislodge your 2000.

Once he has pulled out of Changsha, try to use some of your force in that vicinity to circle around to the NW flank of Hankow and use the woods hex to the NW of it to threaten any force of his that moves to surround Hankow.

Force Z did well enough and getting away clean was as important as the number of ships sunk.

You can't hold forever at Singapore. You'll need to decide when the right time is for pulling the Buffalos out. I usually leave with them once I have finished evacing any of III Indian Corps that I'm able to get out. Desert the port with all shipping that still has a way out and then pull the bombers and fighters.
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Nothing especially interesting in my orders except that a big shipment of troops bound for Suva (and Australia) is loading in SF.

Now for an update on the Burma theater. My plan is to defend in the woods along the red line with troops positioned in the red box hexes. In India, the plan is essentially the same. His troops in Moulmein aren't massed yet. I don't expect him to cross that river for about a week (though he may surprise me).

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Be careful in Burma. The natural axis of advance is through Pegu and Rangoon and then up the road to Prome and on to Mandalay. His armor will race up the main highway and outflank your forces on the river line. Very little chance anything will come up the slow road to Taung Gyi. Defending forward from there to the river line usually leaves uints out of position and cut off by the run up the main highway.

Same is true of the unit NE of Pegu between the rivers on the main road. Better back one hex where it blocks the main road intersection and the route NE to the next base.
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Combat Report - 1/1/1942

- I had ordered the troops in Sinyang to attack again hoping that his troops were in 'move' mode and would thus take heavier than normal casualties. They were, but unfortunately, those three units that were circling around to my rear changed course and entered the base hex instead which upped his AV to roughly twice mine. This did not end well for me. I'm withdrawing all these troops to Ichang (if I can)
- He has been slowly taking the islands south of Luzon. The troops in Cebu held him off today, but it will fall tomorrow
- I forgot to set Force Z back to 'Remain on Station' so she "bounced" from her southern position back up to Ambon. An air raid of LBA attempted to hit them in port but failed.
- My own LBA (Hudsons) attempted to strike a heavy IJN SAG coming from the NE. They clearly want to tangle with Force Z, but I won't be headed back that far north any time soon. He may try to strike down south and force the confrontation. I'm fine with that so long as we are outside of the LBA umbrella. Force Z will move south of Ambon again this turn and hopefully stay there this time
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Change of plan: I ordered Force Z to steam for Sydney where it will buff the paint and iron the flag before being split up into the TFs of Enterprise and Lexington. This means that DEI will have no surface resistance, but fuel was starting to become a problem up here anyway. Soerabaja isn't exactly off limits but anything I send in there can easily be trapped whenever he moves on Kendari/Ambon which wouldn't be good. Perhaps when Indomitable gets here, she and Hermes can come cause problems in the DEI.
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Combat Report - 1/2/1942

- Close call! I had ordered Force Z to retire to Sydney. As they moved out of the Ambon area, 3 different enemy SAGs moved in. I believe I counted a total of 5 BBs and at least 2 CAs. He was clearly hoping to catch them. Instead, they bombarded Ambon and are sitting just south of it, no doubt hoping that Force Z will do something foolish
- I received 3 DDs in Aden today that will be Indomitable's escorts after the 10th. They are shiny.
- Subic Bay (west of Clark Field) was taken with a pretty poor showing on the part of the Allies. His troops are now headed for CF and when they get there, they will have overwhelming force. I won't be keeping Luzon for long now.
- I received a squadron of P40s in Brisbane. They are shiny, too.
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Combat Report - 1/3/1942

- I had a SAG that evidently got chased off its station SE of Port Moresby into the Solomon Sea (or at least, it should have arrived back on station by this turn). A flight of 26 Nells and 17 Betties got a total of 6 torpedo hits. 1 on CL Perth, 3 on CA Australia, and 2 on CL Achilles. Australia is at 75 floatation damage.
- It is unlikely that any of them will survive because there are two TFs SW of their position which contain BBs and will likely swing up to destroy the remainder of this group. They are pretty much surrounded.
- SigInt indicates that all this activity in the Solomon Sea is because he is sending an invasion force to PM. A few more days and I would have been fully prepared with fighter coverage, banshees, and sea protection provided by Force Z and two other cruiser SAGs. As it is, Force Z will require at least another day to get into range to strike (and will be low on fuel when it does), The Australia's TF is unlikely to survive, and Pensacola's TF is far enough south of PM that they will have to swing west toward the Australian coast to avoid those BB SAGs. Not a pretty picture. The AV at PM is 361 - hopefully high enough to prevent him from taking it this early.
- Enterprise and Lexington are scheduled to arrive in Auckland in the morning. They will refuel and then potentially head north the help in the Coral Sea. I say "potentially" because a group of Japanese ships were supposedly spotted NW of Raoul Island. I still don't know where the KB is and though I find it extremely unlikely that he has anything this south, I'd prefer not to tip off where my CVs are until I can get them within striking distance

I suppose it is time to learn the ranges on Nells and Betties [8|]
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You have 17 American PBY groups (4, 5, 5A) right now. How many do you have in the South Pacific (Suva, Pago Pago) and NE Australia?? I would say 6 at least to help you do naval search. Yes, some need more planes to fill out and that will take months to happen, but something is better than nothing.

If she wasn't sunk at Pearl, AV Curtiss (spd 20 and Seaplane Support 36) along with 2 escorts should be somewhere like Luganville to Tulagi with a PBY operating from that base. You have three Clemson Class AVDs at Pearl that can do the same thing (spd 27 and Seaplane support 6 each). Load each up with supplies and head them off.

Seeing you get surprised near Port Moresby area had me pull up my game and realize I need to move some stuff over the next few days. AV Curtiss is almost repaired and off she will go like I just suggested to you.
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I have 1 group of 10 at Noumea, 1 group of 11 at Nadi (Fiji), and 1 group of 12 at Canton. I also have some at Palmyra, Johnston Island, and Midway. I've been hesitant to send out the understrength groups from PH, I guess. Also, my AVs are evidently undamaged. Frankly, I just don't know how to use them. Are they loaded like they were CVs? Air transport like they were loading troops? And would I need to have some surface groups nearby to protect them?

BTW, he already took Tulagi and Ndeni.
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Combat Report - 1/4/1942

Uneventful, really, except that my cruisers in the Solomon Sea are trapped. There is a group of CAs NE of them preventing them from going E or N and at least one group of BBs SW of them preventing them from going S or W. They are parked at Milne Bay. Not sure if I should disband them or keep them formed in a TF with orders to try to shoot past the BBs to safety. His bombers didn't make a run at them today, but I don't really have any idea why not.
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I have 1 group of 10 at Noumea, 1 group of 11 at Nadi (Fiji), and 1 group of 12 at Canton. I also have some at Palmyra, Johnston Island, and Midway. I've been hesitant to send out the understrength groups from PH, I guess. Also, my AVs are evidently undamaged. Frankly, I just don't know how to use them. Are they loaded like they were CVs? Air transport like they were loading troops? And would I need to have some surface groups nearby to protect them?

BTW, he already took Tulagi and Ndeni.

You load supply on them to allow search operations and place them in Support TF. Each turn they will use "x' amount of supply. That is why AV Curtiss and Langley are nice to use in a mobile role as they carry more supply. Yes, you need escorts and 2 DDs should be enough for right now. Plus, you don't have enough escorts yet.

If you have long term repairs needed for your BBs, take your FPs off the BB. Place them on the AV and resize to fit (Curtiss and Langley can carry 4). They will go with the AV. The PBYs will need to send to the base you put the AV in. Train the FPs in ASW and use your PBYs in Naval Search.

Once your PBYs get 8 or 9 planes, send them out. I might upgrade a PBY-5 to 5A if the unit is still in USA to get more planes in the pool.
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Combat Report - 1/5/1942

Dodged three bullets this turn.

- A submarine engaged Force Z west of Port Moresby. He spotted HMS Repulse but not PoW. No hits, no damage. Just the element of surprise lost.
- Pensacola's TF was attacked by 24 Nells and 15 Betties at PM. They were outside of torpedo range so the enemy aircraft were attempting bombing runs with no success. Again, the only loss was surprise.
- Australia's TF was disbanded at Milne Bay in an attempt to evade the coming air attack (see above). In doing so, they also evaded his surface fleets. However, a fleet of 3 CAs and escorts is parked outside the port making it difficult to form up and leave in the night. If he has spotted them, I can expect a devastating port attack tomorrow. I might group the healthy ships and attempt to break the blockade in the night, but Australia, Perth, and Achilles are as good as dead. My only hope is that he can't see that they disbanded in port (or doesn't notice).

USS Enterprise and USS Lexington are headed north after refueling at New Zealand. I am hesitant to allow them to be seen in this theater until I know for sure where the KB is, but on the other hand, this could be an opportunity to do some serious damage to his surface fleet. I could use some advice on optimal attack altitudes for dive bombers and torpedo bombers. I know that SOMEWHERE there is a thread that explains the offensive altitude bands but I've yet to find it.

SigInt: He is sending a construction crew to Ndeni, presumably to build and airfield. Houston's TF has about a week of repair left or I'd send them to intercept.
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Combat Report - 1/6/1942

- Cebu falls
- Force Z moved to the south of PM and Pensacola's TF was supposed to be in trail of them. Unfortunately, Pensacola's TF ran smack into a heavy enemy SAG in the wee hours of the morning. They engaged in a fierce but comically ineffective surface battle which landed a couple hits on their BB Nagato and 1 on a CA. CA Canberra, CL De Ruyter, and DD Van Nuys all suffered moderate damage but got away clean. In fact, during the day, they made it almost halfway back to Brisbane already. They should be fine, but will be out of the fight for a month or so. CA Pensacola did not participate in the battle. It was movie night.
- Unfortunately, Force Z now sits in the hex directly adjacent to the heavy SAG. I'm going to have to send them full speed for the Australian coast to avoid combat with 4 different enemy groups. I believe that he has an invasion force that will try to land in PM tomorrow. Here's hoping that my forces can hold it.
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Well you learned how vulnerable your SAGs are in LBA range. so good lesson learned.

You haven't mentioned the location of the KB. Is he operating those heavy SAGS with only LBA support? If so you may have an oportunity for your carriers. If not, then even the coats of Australia will NOT be a safe haven for those retreating surface combatants. You very likely don't have sufficient fighter strength on the Australian coast yet to make a KB raid cost prohibitive. Be prepared to evac your major ports on the Aussie coast and run like hell with everything if the KB comes sailing in!
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USS Enterprise and USS Lexington are headed north after refueling at New Zealand. I am hesitant to allow them to be seen in this theater until I know for sure where the KB is, but on the other hand, this could be an opportunity to do some serious damage to his surface fleet. I could use some advice on optimal attack altitudes for dive bombers and torpedo bombers. I know that SOMEWHERE there is a thread that explains the offensive altitude bands but I've yet to find it.
Lots of good info in "The War Room" portion of the AE forums. See this thread [FAQ for newbies] tm.asp?m=2260137 for many pointers on subtle things like the colour of the search arc display telling you whether it is a morning of afternoon search.
From post #25 in that thread the developer writes:

Yes, Thats on the Wiki.

http://hc-strategy.com/ae/wiki/index.ph ... =Main_Page

Mission: Bombing

A/c type: DB
(1) Group altitude: 10-15K
A/c are treated as if performing a diving attack
(2) Group altitude: 16-19K
A/c are treated as if performing a glide attack
(3) Group altitude: <1K
A/c are treated as if performing a low level attack
(4) Group altitude: 20+ or 1-9K
A/c are treated as if performing a normal horizontal attack
The attacks are based on altitude flown.

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