Newbie Allies vs. Experinced WitP
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- ny59giants
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RE: The Allies Take the Offense
Adjust Assault Value - When you mentioned that you have seen adjusted way down, I think a lot of that is due to low or no prep level for the troops. Another issue is having enough "Support" in the stack. If you attack away from a base, you cannot know unless you take out a calculator to add up what is needed and what you have. On most invasions, the support troops are the last to be unloaded. HQs help in this area.
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants
Adjust Assault Value - When you mentioned that you have seen adjusted way down, I think a lot of that is due to low or no prep level for the troops. Another issue is having enough "Support" in the stack. If you attack away from a base, you cannot know unless you take out a calculator to add up what is needed and what you have. On most invasions, the support troops are the last to be unloaded. HQs help in this area.
It was not prep as the forces were 100% prepped . but support .. that might have been the problem as just the infantry squads were off that phase . but 300+ down to 10 was pretty shocking [X(] The good news is . the next phase the B-17's came and depopulated Mili ... [:D]
But this is very very interesting feedback .. attacking well entrenched atolls even ones you have lots of extra AV can be surprised by being adjusted ...
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
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RE: The Allies Take the Offense
If I was you, I would have two Command HQs in the Gilberts/Marshall area with them each prepping for another target. Then, have a Corp HQ land with the troops. You don't have the specialized command transports that allow you to place those assault type HQs on them yet, so you have to make due.
The Support squads, but especially the "Motorized Support" have high load cost and take some time to unload.
The Support squads, but especially the "Motorized Support" have high load cost and take some time to unload.
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants
If I was you, I would have two Command HQs in the Gilberts/Marshall area with them each prepping for another target. Then, have a Corp HQ land with the troops. You don't have the specialized command transports that allow you to place those assault type HQs on them yet, so you have to make due.
The Support squads, but especially the "Motorized Support" have high load cost and take some time to unload.
Excellent .. I just had not noticed the wide range of adjusted values before ..clearly teh loss of support squads then has an eventual affect on AV once combat occurs .. now understanding TO&E and AV [8D] See next post ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Allies Take the Offense
We hit Moulmein at nigth with 4E's in the rain ...
got 2 port hits and a fuel hit .[8|].
Afternoon Air attack on 55th Division, at 55,50 (Prome)
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 32
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
........
Morning Air attack on 74th Infantry Regiment, at 55,50 (Prome)
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 64
Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
459 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 38 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
We kill 500 with a day time ground attack with 2E's .. the 4E's in this game have a purpose . and that is to terrorize units in the open ..[;)]
Our subs find two prey ...
Sub attack near Iriomote at 90,63
Japanese Ships
xAK Genzan Maru
Allied Ships
SS Kingfish
SS Kingfish launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Genzan Maru
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Sub attack near Iriomote at 90,63
Japanese Ships
xAK Ryotaku Maru, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS Kingfish
SS Kingfish attacking xAK Ryotaku Maru on the surface [X(]
followed up with ..
Submarine attack near Taihoku at 88,63
Japanese Ships
xAK Daijukyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS Swordfish
xAK Daijukyo Maru is sighted by SS Swordfish
SS Swordfish launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Daijukyo Maru
Slowly very slowly we attrite the Japaneese merchant force ....[:D]
Ok tired starving IJA in the mountains of Burma ..
We shock ...
Ground combat at 63,45 (near Bhamo)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 28064 troops, 292 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 1175
Defending force 12417 troops, 169 guns, 76 vehicles, Assault Value = 392
Allied adjusted assault: 1278
Japanese adjusted defense: 250
Allied assault odds: 5 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
1158 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 107 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 31 disabled
Guns lost 45 (1 destroyed, 44 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
3108 casualties reported
Squads: 109 destroyed, 234 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 46 (10 destroyed, 36 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Assaulting units:
23rd British Brigade
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
54th Chinese Corps
16th British Brigade
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
11th Group Army
NCAC
57th AT Gun Regiment
Defending units:
33rd/B Division
33rd/A Division
14th Tank Regiment
33rd/C Division
7th Field AF Construction Battalion
3rd Mortar Battalion
62nd JAAF AF Bn
5-1 starving .. but we die in droves .. 3-1 to be exact ..more so .. 109 dead to 107 disabled .. not a good trade ...
Ok more later ..
got 2 port hits and a fuel hit .[8|].
Afternoon Air attack on 55th Division, at 55,50 (Prome)
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 32
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
........
Morning Air attack on 74th Infantry Regiment, at 55,50 (Prome)
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 64
Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
459 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 38 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
We kill 500 with a day time ground attack with 2E's .. the 4E's in this game have a purpose . and that is to terrorize units in the open ..[;)]
Our subs find two prey ...
Sub attack near Iriomote at 90,63
Japanese Ships
xAK Genzan Maru
Allied Ships
SS Kingfish
SS Kingfish launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Genzan Maru
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Sub attack near Iriomote at 90,63
Japanese Ships
xAK Ryotaku Maru, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS Kingfish
SS Kingfish attacking xAK Ryotaku Maru on the surface [X(]
followed up with ..
Submarine attack near Taihoku at 88,63
Japanese Ships
xAK Daijukyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS Swordfish
xAK Daijukyo Maru is sighted by SS Swordfish
SS Swordfish launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Daijukyo Maru
Slowly very slowly we attrite the Japaneese merchant force ....[:D]
Ok tired starving IJA in the mountains of Burma ..
We shock ...

Ground combat at 63,45 (near Bhamo)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 28064 troops, 292 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 1175
Defending force 12417 troops, 169 guns, 76 vehicles, Assault Value = 392
Allied adjusted assault: 1278
Japanese adjusted defense: 250
Allied assault odds: 5 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
1158 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 107 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 31 disabled
Guns lost 45 (1 destroyed, 44 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
3108 casualties reported
Squads: 109 destroyed, 234 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 46 (10 destroyed, 36 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Assaulting units:
23rd British Brigade
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
54th Chinese Corps
16th British Brigade
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
11th Group Army
NCAC
57th AT Gun Regiment
Defending units:
33rd/B Division
33rd/A Division
14th Tank Regiment
33rd/C Division
7th Field AF Construction Battalion
3rd Mortar Battalion
62nd JAAF AF Bn
5-1 starving .. but we die in droves .. 3-1 to be exact ..more so .. 109 dead to 107 disabled .. not a good trade ...
Ok more later ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
- ny59giants
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RE: The Allies Take the Offense
Next turn look at that stack. How much support is there vs what is required?? Has each unit refilled their supply levels?? How poor is the quality of your Chinese leaders?? What is the experience levels of your Chinese?? Go up to the upper left hand corner and push the "D" button. Check on the actual Anti-Soft and Anti-Armor values for the various squads involved in the attack. Yes, these values are another part of ground combat that goes under reported and not understood. The AV of an unit is the number of squads with combat factors, not their actual Anti-Soft and Anti-Armor which are more important in the actual combat.
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants
Next turn look at that stack. How much support is there vs what is required?? Has each unit refilled their supply levels?? How poor is the quality of your Chinese leaders?? What is the experience levels of your Chinese?? Go up to the upper left hand corner and push the "D" button. Check on the actual Anti-Soft and Anti-Armor values for the various squads involved in the attack. Yes, these values are another part of ground combat that goes under reported and not understood. The AV of an unit is the number of squads with combat factors, not their actual Anti-Soft and Anti-Armor which are more important in the actual combat.
Excellent!
Ok I am bringing up some armor ...even though this is mountian .. maybe I can get some better anti-armor ..anti-soft ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Allies Take the Offense
******************************* 23 JAN '43 **************************************
Two events today ..
I-19 takes 4 hits in 2 sessions with a ASW group lead by teh USN DD Wilson:
ASW attack near Mili at 137,122
Japanese Ships
SS I-19, hits 1
Allied Ships
DD Mahan
DD Wilson
SS I-19 is sighted by escort
........
Sub attack near Mili at 137,122
Japanese Ships
SS I-19, hits 3
Allied Ships
DD Stack
DD Mahan
DD Wilson
The SS Haddock takes out the IJN xAK Ayato Maru
Sub attack near Iwo-jima at 109,79
Japanese Ships
xAK Ayato Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Narita Maru
Allied Ships
SS Haddock
SS Haddock launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Ayato Maru
We dive deep at Kuroshima and Rekata Bay avoding contact ..
Sweep goes blank at Prome .. and IJAAF bombing in China ....[>:]
More later ...
Two events today ..
I-19 takes 4 hits in 2 sessions with a ASW group lead by teh USN DD Wilson:
ASW attack near Mili at 137,122
Japanese Ships
SS I-19, hits 1
Allied Ships
DD Mahan
DD Wilson
SS I-19 is sighted by escort
........
Sub attack near Mili at 137,122
Japanese Ships
SS I-19, hits 3
Allied Ships
DD Stack
DD Mahan
DD Wilson
The SS Haddock takes out the IJN xAK Ayato Maru
Sub attack near Iwo-jima at 109,79
Japanese Ships
xAK Ayato Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Narita Maru
Allied Ships
SS Haddock
SS Haddock launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Ayato Maru
We dive deep at Kuroshima and Rekata Bay avoding contact ..
Sweep goes blank at Prome .. and IJAAF bombing in China ....[>:]
More later ...
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
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RE: The Allies Take the Offense
Even a Sherman looks good against the Japanese tanks. [:D]
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************************************* 24 JAN 43 ************************************
I suspect the IJ economy is in deep trouble. The lack of offensive air is telling me that they need to conserve.
We continnue our safe steady march through the Marshalls while we think about Marianas .. or Solomons ..
Quiet today .. we cannot find a submarine in broad daylight with DD's ..
Sub attack near Mili at 137,122
Japanese Ships
SS I-19
Allied Ships
DD Stack
DD Mahan
DD Wilson
SS I-19 launches 6 torpedoes at DD Stack
Weland on Jaluit is was empty even the static fortress unit was destroyed by 4E's [X(]
Amphibious Assault at Jaluit (134,120)
TF 146 troops unloading over beach at Jaluit, 134,120
Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (0 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (0 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Bombing in China ... [>:]
More later ..
I suspect the IJ economy is in deep trouble. The lack of offensive air is telling me that they need to conserve.
We continnue our safe steady march through the Marshalls while we think about Marianas .. or Solomons ..
Quiet today .. we cannot find a submarine in broad daylight with DD's ..
Sub attack near Mili at 137,122
Japanese Ships
SS I-19
Allied Ships
DD Stack
DD Mahan
DD Wilson
SS I-19 launches 6 torpedoes at DD Stack
Weland on Jaluit is was empty even the static fortress unit was destroyed by 4E's [X(]
Amphibious Assault at Jaluit (134,120)
TF 146 troops unloading over beach at Jaluit, 134,120
Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (0 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (0 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Bombing in China ... [>:]
More later ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
- ny59giants
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RE: The Allies Take the Offense
Are we prepping any units for Wake yet?? With the Marshalls under siege, it would seem time to take her back. Getting this area under control will be great for your subs by cutting turnaround time and increasing patrol lengths.
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*************************************** 25 JAN 43 *********************************
Bad events for the Allies. This turn of events will slow down things considerably ....
First the IJAAF come to Mandalay this turn and we shoot down 4 with flak .
Night Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 4 damaged
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 2 destroyed by flak
.................
Night Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 4 damaged
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 destroyed by flak
Manpower hits 5
Fires 897
PROME:
We sweep Prome with much success ..
Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 25
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 6 destroyed
No Allied losses
Then the bombers come ...
Morning Air attack on 2nd RTA Division, at 55,50 (Prome)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 12
B-24D Liberator x 12
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 11 (10 destroyed, 1 disabled)
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Morning Air attack on 74th Infantry Regiment, at 55,50 (Prome)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Allied aircraft
Blenheim VD x 12
Liberator II x 16
B-24D Liberator x 24
B-25C Mitchell x 64
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
553 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 32 (7 destroyed, 25 disabled)
So about 600 out of 42K .. not a very efficent means of attirtion but we suffered no losses
CENPAC:
We lose the use of the Saratoga for at least 3 months ...
Sub attack near Abemama at 136,129
Japanese Ships
SS I-23, hits 16, and is sunk
SS I-23 is reported to have been sunk near Abemama on Jan 25, 1943
Allied Ships
CV Saratoga, Torpedo hits 1
CA Northampton
CL Helena
CL St. Louis
CLAA Juneau
DD Waller
DD Woodworth
DD Barton
SS I-23 launches 6 torpedoes at CV Saratoga
There were a lot more DD's but this is what showed up in the CR ...I suspect 3 months in the Pen .. but first we have to get her to the West Coast ..
Recon shows one unit here about 1,000 troops we recon by bombing ..
Morning Air attack on Majuro Base Force, at 136,119 (Majuro)
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Allied aircraft
Bolingbroke IV x 12
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
...............
Morning Air attack on Majuro Base Force, at 136,119 (Majuro)
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9
B-24D Liberator x 45
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
111 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
............
Morning Air attack on Majuro Base Force, at 136,119 (Majuro)
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 18
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
...............
Morning Air attack on Majuro Base Force, at 136,119 (Majuro)
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
.............
Afternoon Air attack on Majuro Base Force, at 136,119 (Majuro)
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 18
B-17F Fortress x 22
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
...................
Afternoon Air attack on Majuro Base Force, at 136,119 (Majuro)
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 21
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (5 destroyed, 1 disabled)
So about 300 out of 1000 are killed in this raid .. I am thinking a Marine Defense unit and two raider Btns should take this guy out ...
Ok more later ..
Bad events for the Allies. This turn of events will slow down things considerably ....
First the IJAAF come to Mandalay this turn and we shoot down 4 with flak .
Night Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 4 damaged
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 2 destroyed by flak
.................
Night Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 4 damaged
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 destroyed by flak
Manpower hits 5
Fires 897
PROME:
We sweep Prome with much success ..
Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 25
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 6 destroyed
No Allied losses
Then the bombers come ...
Morning Air attack on 2nd RTA Division, at 55,50 (Prome)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 12
B-24D Liberator x 12
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 11 (10 destroyed, 1 disabled)
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Morning Air attack on 74th Infantry Regiment, at 55,50 (Prome)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Allied aircraft
Blenheim VD x 12
Liberator II x 16
B-24D Liberator x 24
B-25C Mitchell x 64
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
553 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 32 (7 destroyed, 25 disabled)
So about 600 out of 42K .. not a very efficent means of attirtion but we suffered no losses
CENPAC:
We lose the use of the Saratoga for at least 3 months ...
Sub attack near Abemama at 136,129
Japanese Ships
SS I-23, hits 16, and is sunk
SS I-23 is reported to have been sunk near Abemama on Jan 25, 1943
Allied Ships
CV Saratoga, Torpedo hits 1
CA Northampton
CL Helena
CL St. Louis
CLAA Juneau
DD Waller
DD Woodworth
DD Barton
SS I-23 launches 6 torpedoes at CV Saratoga
There were a lot more DD's but this is what showed up in the CR ...I suspect 3 months in the Pen .. but first we have to get her to the West Coast ..
Recon shows one unit here about 1,000 troops we recon by bombing ..
Morning Air attack on Majuro Base Force, at 136,119 (Majuro)
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Allied aircraft
Bolingbroke IV x 12
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
...............
Morning Air attack on Majuro Base Force, at 136,119 (Majuro)
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9
B-24D Liberator x 45
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
111 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
............
Morning Air attack on Majuro Base Force, at 136,119 (Majuro)
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 18
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
...............
Morning Air attack on Majuro Base Force, at 136,119 (Majuro)
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
.............
Afternoon Air attack on Majuro Base Force, at 136,119 (Majuro)
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 18
B-17F Fortress x 22
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Afternoon Air attack on Majuro Base Force, at 136,119 (Majuro)
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 21
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (5 destroyed, 1 disabled)
So about 300 out of 1000 are killed in this raid .. I am thinking a Marine Defense unit and two raider Btns should take this guy out ...
Ok more later ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Allies Take the Offense
The IJN have decided to station at least 3 of the smaller submarines off Mili .. we oblige them with DC's ..
ASW attack near Mili at 137,122
Japanese Ships
SS RO-67, hits 5
Allied Ships
DD Perkins
DD Lamson
SS RO-67 is sighted by escort
DD Perkins fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Lamson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Lamson attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Mili at 137,122
Japanese Ships
SS RO-64, hits 1
Allied Ships
DD Perkins
DD Lamson
SS RO-64 is located by DD Perkins
RO-64 diving deep ....
DD Perkins fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Lamson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Lamson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Lamson attacking submerged sub ....
DD Lamson loses contact with SS RO-64
DD Lamson cannot establish contact with SS RO-64
DD Lamson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Lamson attacking submerged sub ....
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
DD Lamson attacking submerged sub ....
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Mili at 137,122
Japanese Ships
SS RO-66, hits 10
Allied Ships
DD Drayton
DD Perkins
SS RO-66 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Drayton
DD Perkins attacking submerged sub ....
DD Perkins fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Perkins attacking submerged sub ....
SS RO-66 eludes DD Perkins by hugging bottom
SS RO-66 eludes DD Perkins by hugging bottom
SS RO-66 eludes DD Perkins by hugging bottom
DD Perkins attacking submerged sub ....
DD Perkins is out of ASW ammo
DD Perkins is out of ASW ammo
DD Perkins is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub
This is very interesting .. teh IJ are complaining of fuel shortages .. but are moving those BB's around into theater ..
Sub attack near Chichi-jima at 109,74
Japanese Ships
DD Natsugumo
BB Hiei
BB Kongo
CA Furutaka
CA Tone
CL Yubari
CL Tatsuta
CL Kitakami
CL Agano
DD Oshio
DD Yugumo
DD Amagiri
DD Usugumo
DD Shinonome
DD Umikaze
Allied Ships
SS Gato, hits 1
SS Gato launches 4 torpedoes at DD Natsugumo
Usually this means a bombardment somewhere ..
Now the duds ar getting better .. we just plain miss ..
Sub attack near Hengchun at 82,68
Japanese Ships
xAK Naniwa Maru
PB Ginyo Maru
Allied Ships
SS Grampus
SS Grampus launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Naniwa Maru
or duck out ..
Sub attack near Rekata Bay at 112,135
Japanese Ships
LB-123
LB-124
LB-119
LB-114
PB Takunan Maru #5
Allied Ships
SS S-32
SS S-32 cannot acquire firing solution on enemy LB
We damage 7 shoot down 1 over Mandalay ..
more later ..
ASW attack near Mili at 137,122
Japanese Ships
SS RO-67, hits 5
Allied Ships
DD Perkins
DD Lamson
SS RO-67 is sighted by escort
DD Perkins fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Lamson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Lamson attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Mili at 137,122
Japanese Ships
SS RO-64, hits 1
Allied Ships
DD Perkins
DD Lamson
SS RO-64 is located by DD Perkins
RO-64 diving deep ....
DD Perkins fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Lamson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Lamson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Lamson attacking submerged sub ....
DD Lamson loses contact with SS RO-64
DD Lamson cannot establish contact with SS RO-64
DD Lamson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Lamson attacking submerged sub ....
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
DD Lamson attacking submerged sub ....
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
DD Lamson is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Mili at 137,122
Japanese Ships
SS RO-66, hits 10
Allied Ships
DD Drayton
DD Perkins
SS RO-66 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Drayton
DD Perkins attacking submerged sub ....
DD Perkins fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Perkins attacking submerged sub ....
SS RO-66 eludes DD Perkins by hugging bottom
SS RO-66 eludes DD Perkins by hugging bottom
SS RO-66 eludes DD Perkins by hugging bottom
DD Perkins attacking submerged sub ....
DD Perkins is out of ASW ammo
DD Perkins is out of ASW ammo
DD Perkins is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub
This is very interesting .. teh IJ are complaining of fuel shortages .. but are moving those BB's around into theater ..
Sub attack near Chichi-jima at 109,74
Japanese Ships
DD Natsugumo
BB Hiei
BB Kongo
CA Furutaka
CA Tone
CL Yubari
CL Tatsuta
CL Kitakami
CL Agano
DD Oshio
DD Yugumo
DD Amagiri
DD Usugumo
DD Shinonome
DD Umikaze
Allied Ships
SS Gato, hits 1
SS Gato launches 4 torpedoes at DD Natsugumo
Usually this means a bombardment somewhere ..
Now the duds ar getting better .. we just plain miss ..
Sub attack near Hengchun at 82,68
Japanese Ships
xAK Naniwa Maru
PB Ginyo Maru
Allied Ships
SS Grampus
SS Grampus launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Naniwa Maru
or duck out ..
Sub attack near Rekata Bay at 112,135
Japanese Ships
LB-123
LB-124
LB-119
LB-114
PB Takunan Maru #5
Allied Ships
SS S-32
SS S-32 cannot acquire firing solution on enemy LB
We damage 7 shoot down 1 over Mandalay ..
more later ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Allies Take the Offense
Yes, the Sara and Lex can't be repaired at either Colombo or Sidney. Makes them a bit of a liability compared to the other carriers. But they are hard to sink....
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RE: The Allies Take the Offense
ORIGINAL: crsutton
Yes, the Sara and Lex can't be repaired at either Colombo or Sidney. Makes them a bit of a liability compared to the other carriers. But they are hard to sink....
I am thinking the lower maneuverablity rating makes them torp magents .. 8 DD's and I did not get the draw .. but did kill the sub afterwards ...
The Damage is 11 sys 35 flooding (31 major) The sys and minor flooding are being addressed by a repair ship 15 days .. then the long haul back to the West Coast ..
One other thought .. I think this is what makes the Solomons and the Gilberts so deadly ..so many places to hide submarines as opposed to the open waters. The reason why the Saratoga took a slug is why I decided to have my initial fight here . I got 6 looks at CV's and the Kaga took a slug ...
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Allies Take the Offense
******************************************* 27 JAN 43 ***********************************
The IJ come at night I have night fighters up. It does not matter .. no shooting .. [&:] INstead flak takes its toll ..
Night Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 9
Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIf x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed by flak
No Allied losses
Manpower hits 1
Fires 943
Then when the day breaks we sweep Prome:
Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 25
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
18 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 16000 feet *
..................
Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 25
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
25 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 21000 feet *
Would you not know it ... the 16K P40's arrive first and get bounced ..[:@] No escorts arrive to protect the bombers ..
Morning Air attack on 48th Division, at 55,50 (Prome)
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4
Allied aircraft
Blenheim VD x 12
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 64
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses -- Pilot killed in landing accident of B-25C Mitchell from 341st BG/490th BS
Japanese ground losses:
976 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 37 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
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Morning Air attack on 48th Division, at 55,50 (Prome)
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 1
Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 32
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington Ic: 5 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
141 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
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Morning Air attack on 48th Division, at 55,50 (Prome)
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 28
B-24D Liberator x 12
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
455 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
The 48th Division loses 1500 this fine day .. about 4% of the whole stack here at Prome.
If You all remember when this Burma campaign started we split Burma in half. The 33rd division and friends ended up North of the Katha/Bhamo line. Now these units are trapped just North of Lashio. Three turns ago we shocked exchaging 3:1 not in our favor [:(]. We deliberate attack this time and wear them down at 3:2. A little more acceptable ..
Ground combat at 63,45 (near Bhamo)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 24530 troops, 248 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 955
Defending force 11368 troops, 167 guns, 76 vehicles, Assault Value = 300
Allied adjusted assault: 425
Japanese adjusted defense: 202
Allied assault odds: 2 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
749 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 60 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 27 (1 destroyed, 26 disabled)
Vehicles lost 18 (1 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1142 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 119 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 13 (3 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Assaulting units:
54th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
16th British Brigade
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
NCAC
11th Group Army
57th AT Gun Regiment
Defending units:
33rd/B Division
14th Tank Regiment
33rd/A Division
33rd/C Division
7th Field AF Construction Battalion
3rd Mortar Battalion
62nd JAAF AF Bn
The British Armor is in route .. I will bring them in to counter the tanks in this hex. I know Nemo commented early that draining vehicles from the pool might not be a winning strategy but I suspect the IJ economy is in crisis. The more decisions the IJ have to make the more likely that one will be incorrect. Thus how many factories need to produce supply vs. loading the TO&E pools? How many for research vs. producing aircraft now? What factories should be changed etc ..The numbers of aircraft and rates of replacements are indicating a problem ... [;)]
The Scamp finds some BB's ..but looses the draw on a DD .. no harm no foul ..
ASW attack near Aogashima at 113,66
Japanese Ships
BB Hiei
BB Kongo
CA Furutaka
CA Ashigara
CA Tone
CL Yubari
CL Tatsuta
CL Kitakami
CL Agano
DD Natsugumo
DD Yugumo
DD Amagiri
DD Usugumo
DD Shinonome
DD Umikaze
Allied Ships
SS Scamp
SS Scamp is sighted by escort
Sub attack near Iriomote at 88,65
Japanese Ships
PB Ginyo Maru
Allied Ships
SS Trigger
Captain of SS Trigger elects not to launch torpedoes at this target
OK more later ..
The IJ come at night I have night fighters up. It does not matter .. no shooting .. [&:] INstead flak takes its toll ..
Night Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 9
Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIf x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed by flak
No Allied losses
Manpower hits 1
Fires 943
Then when the day breaks we sweep Prome:
Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 25
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
18 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 16000 feet *
..................
Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 25
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
25 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 21000 feet *
Would you not know it ... the 16K P40's arrive first and get bounced ..[:@] No escorts arrive to protect the bombers ..
Morning Air attack on 48th Division, at 55,50 (Prome)
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4
Allied aircraft
Blenheim VD x 12
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 64
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses -- Pilot killed in landing accident of B-25C Mitchell from 341st BG/490th BS
Japanese ground losses:
976 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 37 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
...............
Morning Air attack on 48th Division, at 55,50 (Prome)
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 1
Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 32
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington Ic: 5 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
141 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
.................
Morning Air attack on 48th Division, at 55,50 (Prome)
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 28
B-24D Liberator x 12
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
455 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
The 48th Division loses 1500 this fine day .. about 4% of the whole stack here at Prome.
If You all remember when this Burma campaign started we split Burma in half. The 33rd division and friends ended up North of the Katha/Bhamo line. Now these units are trapped just North of Lashio. Three turns ago we shocked exchaging 3:1 not in our favor [:(]. We deliberate attack this time and wear them down at 3:2. A little more acceptable ..
Ground combat at 63,45 (near Bhamo)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 24530 troops, 248 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 955
Defending force 11368 troops, 167 guns, 76 vehicles, Assault Value = 300
Allied adjusted assault: 425
Japanese adjusted defense: 202
Allied assault odds: 2 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
749 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 60 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 27 (1 destroyed, 26 disabled)
Vehicles lost 18 (1 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1142 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 119 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 13 (3 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Assaulting units:
54th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
16th British Brigade
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
NCAC
11th Group Army
57th AT Gun Regiment
Defending units:
33rd/B Division
14th Tank Regiment
33rd/A Division
33rd/C Division
7th Field AF Construction Battalion
3rd Mortar Battalion
62nd JAAF AF Bn
The British Armor is in route .. I will bring them in to counter the tanks in this hex. I know Nemo commented early that draining vehicles from the pool might not be a winning strategy but I suspect the IJ economy is in crisis. The more decisions the IJ have to make the more likely that one will be incorrect. Thus how many factories need to produce supply vs. loading the TO&E pools? How many for research vs. producing aircraft now? What factories should be changed etc ..The numbers of aircraft and rates of replacements are indicating a problem ... [;)]
The Scamp finds some BB's ..but looses the draw on a DD .. no harm no foul ..
ASW attack near Aogashima at 113,66
Japanese Ships
BB Hiei
BB Kongo
CA Furutaka
CA Ashigara
CA Tone
CL Yubari
CL Tatsuta
CL Kitakami
CL Agano
DD Natsugumo
DD Yugumo
DD Amagiri
DD Usugumo
DD Shinonome
DD Umikaze
Allied Ships
SS Scamp
SS Scamp is sighted by escort
Sub attack near Iriomote at 88,65
Japanese Ships
PB Ginyo Maru
Allied Ships
SS Trigger
Captain of SS Trigger elects not to launch torpedoes at this target
OK more later ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Allies Take the Offense
ORIGINAL: ny59giants
Are we prepping any units for Wake yet?? With the Marshalls under siege, it would seem time to take her back. Getting this area under control will be great for your subs by cutting turnaround time and increasing patrol lengths.
The 31st INf Regement is prepped and currently residing at SF. I am ready to bring them into theater ...But first we have to clean up the Marshall Islands.
The map below shows the units fully prepped for the missions. Rght now we are pulling boys off of Narau Island, and Mili which were just invaded. This is the hard part here because none of the ports have been built up. So it is invade, get BF with Naval support .. offload engineers .. pick up bodies with fast transport, port built to level 3 . get the arnaments off the Atoll reorginize forces .. Wash Rinse Repeat ..
This would be easy but IJN SAG's, CV's and Submarines have been showing up at the least appropriate moments .. two turns ago hurting the Saratoga for 3 months.
Sooo about the time Wake Island is secure Ponape will be hit with the fresh new Essex Class CV's .. also we will have implemented Hellcats .. Then we can look at accerlerated attacks in the Solomons as well as using Pacific Ocean forces to strike New Ireland at the same time putting pressure on the IJA/IJN.

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RE: The Allies Take the Offense
BURMA:
The picture below illistrates the problem in Burma. We have five months before life gets wet and supply gets low. I suspect that in one week we will have reduced the 12K IJA trapped near Lashio and we will be able to focus solely on the problem around Prome.
If we cross the Irrawaddy River we are at the mercy of a die roll and how many squads are disrupted/disabled by the river crossing along with the subsequent shock attack. The constant 2E/4E bombing of Prome has taken many lives, but the IJA keep moving forces in and keeping the AV high. Given that Toungoo has 52K troops in jungle ... that leaves us one jungle hex to pentrate the line. Two more divisions will be in threater. The 9th Aussies will make the trek cross from Imphal to Katha starting this turn. At 2 miles per day in the Rough Jungle it takes about a month to make the journey fatigued and with disabled sqauds that must be rested. The USA 43rd is sailing as we speak and that adds an additional month.
My hope is that developments in the Solomons and Marshall's will strain the IJ decision matrix and we can out attrite him here capturing Prome in May 43.. otherwise the Monsoons will be interesting ..

The picture below illistrates the problem in Burma. We have five months before life gets wet and supply gets low. I suspect that in one week we will have reduced the 12K IJA trapped near Lashio and we will be able to focus solely on the problem around Prome.
If we cross the Irrawaddy River we are at the mercy of a die roll and how many squads are disrupted/disabled by the river crossing along with the subsequent shock attack. The constant 2E/4E bombing of Prome has taken many lives, but the IJA keep moving forces in and keeping the AV high. Given that Toungoo has 52K troops in jungle ... that leaves us one jungle hex to pentrate the line. Two more divisions will be in threater. The 9th Aussies will make the trek cross from Imphal to Katha starting this turn. At 2 miles per day in the Rough Jungle it takes about a month to make the journey fatigued and with disabled sqauds that must be rested. The USA 43rd is sailing as we speak and that adds an additional month.
My hope is that developments in the Solomons and Marshall's will strain the IJ decision matrix and we can out attrite him here capturing Prome in May 43.. otherwise the Monsoons will be interesting ..

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RE: The Allies Take the Offense
********************************** 28 JAN 43 *************************
Sometimes the prey bites back ..
ASW attack near Jaluit at 134,122
Japanese Ships
SS RO-68, hits 3
Allied Ships
DD Caldwell
DMS Boggs
AP Hunter Liggett
AP J. Franklin Bell
DD Craven
DD Anderson
DD Hobby
DD Gansevoort
SS RO-68 is sighted by escort
Then again sometimes its too easy as a xAKL eats one for the Emperor [:D]
Submarine attack near Munda at 110,135
Japanese Ships
xAKL Higari Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Higari Maru is reported to have been sunk near Munda on Jan 28, 1943
Allied Ships
SS KIX
Sinking sounds in teh background confirm this report ..
I am still getting messages proclaming the bad start the IJ got off to ..
xAK Yamagiku Maru is reported to have been sunk near Laoag on Dec 15, 1941
3 xAK's met up with 155mm guns that day and met Davey Jones ..IN fact that week is developing as catastrophic with 14 xAP's/xAK full of troops were engaged by guns or subs and sunk ..
RANGOON:
Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 39
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 20
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
Damaged P-40K Warhawk from 51st FG/25th FS crashes on return leg
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 21000 feet *
CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 11 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
203rd Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 11 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 65 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 16
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 28
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Damaged P-40K Warhawk from 23rd FG/76th FS crashes on return leg
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 21000 feet *
CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 22000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
203rd Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 90 minutes
The O'club talk ..
CPT Hall W. of 51st FG/25th FS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Hall W. of 51st FG/25th FS is credited with kill number 3
CPT Hall W. of 51st FG/25th FS is credited with kill number 4
1LT Burke B. of 51st FG/25th FS is credited with kill number 3
CPT Heath G. of 51st FG/25th FS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Berg A. of 51st FG/25th FS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Lopez O. of 51st FG/25th FS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Lopez O. of 51st FG/25th FS is credited with kill number 3
It looks like to me that the IJAAF are putting up sacrifical lambs to provide resistance first reports are 10 Oscars to 5 P40's ...
Bombing in China ..[>:]
One thing that did not happen this turn is for our DB and TB to fly and hit a BB SAG in range so we will have to scamble everything away from the coast next turn ..
Sometimes the prey bites back ..
ASW attack near Jaluit at 134,122
Japanese Ships
SS RO-68, hits 3
Allied Ships
DD Caldwell
DMS Boggs
AP Hunter Liggett
AP J. Franklin Bell
DD Craven
DD Anderson
DD Hobby
DD Gansevoort
SS RO-68 is sighted by escort
Then again sometimes its too easy as a xAKL eats one for the Emperor [:D]
Submarine attack near Munda at 110,135
Japanese Ships
xAKL Higari Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Higari Maru is reported to have been sunk near Munda on Jan 28, 1943
Allied Ships
SS KIX
Sinking sounds in teh background confirm this report ..
I am still getting messages proclaming the bad start the IJ got off to ..
xAK Yamagiku Maru is reported to have been sunk near Laoag on Dec 15, 1941
3 xAK's met up with 155mm guns that day and met Davey Jones ..IN fact that week is developing as catastrophic with 14 xAP's/xAK full of troops were engaged by guns or subs and sunk ..
RANGOON:
Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 39
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 20
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
Damaged P-40K Warhawk from 51st FG/25th FS crashes on return leg
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 21000 feet *
CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 11 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
203rd Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 11 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 65 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 16
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 28
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Damaged P-40K Warhawk from 23rd FG/76th FS crashes on return leg
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 21000 feet *
CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 22000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
203rd Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 90 minutes
The O'club talk ..
CPT Hall W. of 51st FG/25th FS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Hall W. of 51st FG/25th FS is credited with kill number 3
CPT Hall W. of 51st FG/25th FS is credited with kill number 4
1LT Burke B. of 51st FG/25th FS is credited with kill number 3
CPT Heath G. of 51st FG/25th FS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Berg A. of 51st FG/25th FS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Lopez O. of 51st FG/25th FS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Lopez O. of 51st FG/25th FS is credited with kill number 3
It looks like to me that the IJAAF are putting up sacrifical lambs to provide resistance first reports are 10 Oscars to 5 P40's ...
Bombing in China ..[>:]
One thing that did not happen this turn is for our DB and TB to fly and hit a BB SAG in range so we will have to scamble everything away from the coast next turn ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: The Allies Take the Offense
***************************** 29 JAN 43 *****************************
We smack the Maloelap Naval Fortress with 2E's ...
Morning Air attack on Maloelap Naval Fortress, at 136,117 (Maloelap)
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 29
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
138 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
The more guns we take out .. the easier time we shall have landing ..
Bombing in China ..[>:]
The Trigger bags an xAK off of Formosa ..
Submarine attack near Iriomote at 88,66
Japanese Ships
xAK Nittei Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS Trigger
xAK Nittei Maru is sighted by SS Trigger
SS Trigger launches 2 torpedoes
The sunfish goes cold on a hot target ..
Sub attack near Jolo at 73,88
Japanese Ships
PB Akitsui Maru
SC Ch 34
TK Hofuku Maru
TK Fukko Maru
TK Ose Maru
PB Hakozake Maru
Allied Ships
SS Sunfish
SS Sunfish launches 2 torpedoes at PB Akitsui Maru
We did follow up with a deliberate attack on that trapped stack ..
Ground combat at 63,45 (near Bhamo)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 29829 troops, 305 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 1031
Defending force 10693 troops, 166 guns, 75 vehicles, Assault Value = 232
Allied adjusted assault: 351
Japanese adjusted defense: 124
Allied assault odds: 2 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1053 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 65 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Vehicles lost 21 (19 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1758 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 114 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 16 (2 destroyed, 14 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Assaulting units:
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
16th British Brigade
54th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
5th Chinese Corps
NCAC
11th Group Army
57th AT Gun Regiment
Defending units:
14th Tank Regiment
33rd/A Division
33rd/B Division
33rd/C Division
3rd Mortar Battalion
7th Field AF Construction Battalion
62nd JAAF AF Bn
I think they are very close to that breaking point where I should see a lot more destroyed squads .. in the meantime it is the good guys that are getting attrited ... 2 to 31 ...
More later ..
We smack the Maloelap Naval Fortress with 2E's ...
Morning Air attack on Maloelap Naval Fortress, at 136,117 (Maloelap)
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 29
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
138 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
The more guns we take out .. the easier time we shall have landing ..
Bombing in China ..[>:]
The Trigger bags an xAK off of Formosa ..
Submarine attack near Iriomote at 88,66
Japanese Ships
xAK Nittei Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS Trigger
xAK Nittei Maru is sighted by SS Trigger
SS Trigger launches 2 torpedoes
The sunfish goes cold on a hot target ..
Sub attack near Jolo at 73,88
Japanese Ships
PB Akitsui Maru
SC Ch 34
TK Hofuku Maru
TK Fukko Maru
TK Ose Maru
PB Hakozake Maru
Allied Ships
SS Sunfish
SS Sunfish launches 2 torpedoes at PB Akitsui Maru
We did follow up with a deliberate attack on that trapped stack ..
Ground combat at 63,45 (near Bhamo)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 29829 troops, 305 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 1031
Defending force 10693 troops, 166 guns, 75 vehicles, Assault Value = 232
Allied adjusted assault: 351
Japanese adjusted defense: 124
Allied assault odds: 2 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1053 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 65 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Vehicles lost 21 (19 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1758 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 114 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 16 (2 destroyed, 14 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Assaulting units:
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
16th British Brigade
54th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
5th Chinese Corps
NCAC
11th Group Army
57th AT Gun Regiment
Defending units:
14th Tank Regiment
33rd/A Division
33rd/B Division
33rd/C Division
3rd Mortar Battalion
7th Field AF Construction Battalion
62nd JAAF AF Bn
I think they are very close to that breaking point where I should see a lot more destroyed squads .. in the meantime it is the good guys that are getting attrited ... 2 to 31 ...
More later ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"


