Downfall: The end of all bad things

BBfanboy · Post by **BBfanboy** » Sat May 19, 2012 10:04 pm

The Japanese used 24 Jills, 18 Judys, 6 Graces and 12 kamikazes to attack one DD! [8|]
Seems like they should have sought bigger game. [:-]
[I know the AI allocates the attacks so the player doesn't have control of which squadrons go for which TFs, so this is not a criticism of your opponent!]

AcePylut9 · Post by **AcePylut9** » Sun May 20, 2012 12:44 pm

The used those planes to attack 2 DD's [;)] and sank one of them was sunk. We don't know if the japs knew there were 2 or 3 or more DD's in the fleet.

I'm not surprised really, given the location of these two ships...

ALSO, more importantly, my invasion fleets were heavily LRCAP'ed from Amami Oshima & surrounding airfields (6-8 groups per isle on 80% LRCAP 20% Rest and that I'm sure contributed to the Japanese low exp, low morale, crappy pilots, crappy escorts, failing their morale check and decided to go after the next best target - a confirmed 2, possible 4 DD fleet 40 nautical miles off of Japan.

I've decided to bump up the numbers of all my Fast Raider fleets to a minimum 3 ships. These seem to be as effective as 2DD fleets in ASW & small craft battles, seem to have the same ability to avoid IJ airpower, and the extra ship adds a little more ummmphh for AA and surface combat. It seems as if the 2DD ones just dont have enough juice when encountering something bigger. Of course, I do have legacy legacy Fast Raider fleets out there and the occasional 1 DD fleet (cuz one got sunk)

AcePylut9 · Post by **AcePylut9** » Wed May 23, 2012 2:32 am

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 18, 45
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moppo at 100,54, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-354, Shell hits 2, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Bradford
DD Clarence Bronson

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Submarine attack near Koshiki-jima Retto at 101,60

Japanese Ships
LB-503, Shell hits 2, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Pilotfish

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Sub attack near Iki-shima at 102,56

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 11, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SC Ch 7
SC Ch 12

Allied Ships
SS Blueback

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Muroran at 120,52, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
ML G-204
ML G-307
ML G-402, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
ML G-484, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Porterfield

Yesterday the TF with the Porterfield and Miller was attacked by the planes BBFanboy referenced above. The Miller was sunk, but that didn’t deter the Porterfield. She gets small revenge

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Fukue-jima at 101,58, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
E W-30

Allied Ships
PT-103, Shell hits 1
PT-104
PT-105
PT-106, Shell hits 1
PT-108, Shell hits 1

E>PT

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Iki-shima at 102,56, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 7, Shell hits 18, and is sunk
SC Ch 8, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
SC Ch 12, Shell hits 10, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Bradford
DD Clarence Bronson

DD>SC

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Submarine attack near Koshiki-jima Retto at 101,60

Japanese Ships
LB-506, Shell hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Pilotfish

SS>LB

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Night Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 69 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 13

Allied aircraft
P-61C Black Widow x 12
F6F-3N Hellcat x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

No Allied losses

The first of the night attacks.

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Night Air attack on Tanegashima , at 102,62

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M3a Betty x 35

No Japanese losses

Port hits 6
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x G4M3a Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
Trying to keep the base building down (impossible with my engineers) and gain experience. So he’s doing this to gain night exp and sucker me into flying all night cap

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Night Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 59 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia Peggy x 4

Allied aircraft
P-61C Black Widow x 9
F6F-3N Hellcat x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia Peggy: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

No Allied losses

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Night Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 78 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 7
Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 10

Allied aircraft
P-61C Black Widow x 6
F6F-3N Hellcat x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 2 damaged

No Allied losses

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Night Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 7

Allied aircraft
P-61C Black Widow x 5
F6F-3N Hellcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

No Allied losses

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Night Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 6

Allied aircraft
P-61C Black Widow x 3
F6F-3N Hellcat x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Night Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia Peggy x 10

Allied aircraft
P-61C Black Widow x 1
F6F-3N Hellcat x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

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Night Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 9

Allied aircraft
P-61C Black Widow x 1
F6F-3N Hellcat x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

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Night Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 7

Allied aircraft
P-61C Black Widow x 1
F6F-3N Hellcat x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

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Night Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 7

Allied aircraft
P-61C Black Widow x 1
F6F-3N Hellcat x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

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Night Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia Peggy x 6

Allied aircraft
P-61C Black Widow x 1
F6F-3N Hellcat x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Not ONE of those night attacks did any damage.

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Sub attack near Iki-shima at 102,56

Japanese Ships
SS Ha-D-146

Allied Ships
DD Bradford, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Clarence Bronson

SS Ha-D-146 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Bradford
Ha-D-146 diving deep ....
DD Clarence Bronson fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Dangit. Play with fire you’re going to get burnt, but I have many DD’s and can afford it now, when my fleet has to pay the price to get close to Japan. Soon it will be air, then it will be ground

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Submarine attack near Iki-shima at 102,56

Japanese Ships
SS Ha-D-148

Allied Ships
DD Bradford, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

DD Bradford is sighted by SS Ha-D-148
SS Ha-D-148 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Bradford

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Sub attack near Shimonoseki at 105,55

Japanese Ships
xAK Kiso Maru

Allied Ships
SS Balao

SS Balao launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Kiso Maru

And I miss, lol

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Submarine attack near Shimonoseki at 105,55

Japanese Ships
xAK Sinkoku Maru

Allied Ships
SS Balao

xAK Sinkoku Maru is sighted by SS Balao
SS Balao launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Sinkoku Maru

Balao should be ordered to return to port and the captain relieved of command.

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Muroran at 120,52, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-839
MTB G-871
MTB G-1028

Allied Ships
DD Porterfield

Doikawa E. orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range closes to 14,000 yards
Range increases to 20,000 yards
Range increases to 24,000 yards
Range increases to 26,000 yards
Doikawa E. orders Japanese TF to disengage

Whereas, the Porterfield’s cap’n shall be promoted.

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ASW attack near Itbayat Island at 84,69

Japanese Ships
SST Yu-7, hits 17, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DE Grady

A new reef for the wildlife

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Sub attack near Oki Shoto at 107,55

Japanese Ships
xAK Nitii Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Bowfin

xAK Nitii Maru is sighted by SS Bowfin
SS Bowfin launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Nitii Maru

The Bowfin shows the Balao how it’s done

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Sub attack near Kaishu at 99,48

Japanese Ships
xAK Gozan Maru
SC CHa-83
SC CHa-82

Allied Ships
SS Whale, hits 6

The Whale didn’t pay attention to Bowfin’s lesson

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ASW attack near Koshiki-jima Retto at 99,60

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-D-127, hits 8, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Clarence Bronson

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Morning Air attack on Kanoya , at 102,61

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 12

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x P-51D Mustang sweeping at 18000 feet

Day phase – started off by sweeping a bunch of souther Kyushu. Nothing home – just wasted gas today for the most part.

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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 34

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
34 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 23000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kumamoto , at 102,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 35

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x P-38L Lightning sweeping at 18000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 12

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 23000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kumamoto , at 102,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 12

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x P-38L Lightning sweeping at 18000 feet

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Shikotan at 126,55

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y2 Judy x 14

Allied aircraft
FM-1 Wildcat x 10
FM-2 Wildcat x 39

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y2 Judy: 9 destroyed

No Allied losses

After those planes BBFanboy spoke of, I thought it might be CV’s so I sent in my CVE fleet to investigate. It wasn’t. Wakkanini (sp) is built to level 7(6) af, and that’s where they came from. Memo to self – change to Hellcats upon returning to base.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Fukue-jima at 101,58

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 81 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-K Zero x 17
J2M5 Jack x 27
Ki-84a Frank x 12

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-K Zero: 10 destroyed
A6M2-K Zero: 1 destroyed by flak
J2M5 Jack: 7 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAK Alcoa Polaris
DD Tingey
xAK Alcoa Pointer, Kamikaze hits 2, and is sunk
AM Vireo, Kamikaze hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Alcoa Pegasus
DD Trathen
xAP Cape Canso, Kamikaze hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x A6M2-K Zero flying as kamikaze
Kamikaze: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x J2M5 Jack sweeping at 12000 feet
8 x J2M5 Jack sweeping at 12000 feet
9 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 12000 feet

My cap did a number, but there were too many. Luckily, these were all unloaded of troops/equipment and were just dumping supplies. It’s a small price to pay for having Fukueshima well supplied and not have to worry about it

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Morning Air attack on Samah , at 69,63

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 12
B-24J Liberator x 111
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
MC-21 Sally: 2 destroyed on ground
H8K2-L Emily: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-56 Thalia: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-57-I Topsy: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 38

Recon showed quite a flew planes at Samah – so I sent in the B24’s and B27’s from the PI to see what’s up. Looks like there’s a number of transport ac, no doubt sending stuff to China, then Korea, then Japan.

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Morning Air attack on Samah , at 69,63

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 80

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K2-L Emily: 1 destroyed on ground
MC-21 Sally: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-57-I Topsy: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-56 Thalia: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 13000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
21 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 13000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
37 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 13000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Kanoya , at 102,61

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 3

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-51D Mustang sweeping at 18000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Samah , at 69,63

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 43

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-56 Thalia: 2 destroyed on ground
MC-21 Sally: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 9

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Morning Air attack on Kanoya , at 102,61

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 62 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
A-26C Invader x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 9

I forgot about this group. Oh well it was worth it.

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Morning Air attack on Samah , at 69,63

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K2-L Emily: 1 destroyed on ground
MC-21 Sally: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-57-I Topsy: 1 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4

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Morning Air attack on Samah , at 69,63

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K2-L Emily: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-57-I Topsy: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-56 Thalia: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hakodate at 120,53

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 51 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 18
B6N2 Jill x 24
N1K5-J George x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Porterfield

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

Today, the Porterfield was a man among men.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Fukue-jima at 101,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 86 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 8
Ki-84a Frank x 27
Ki-115a Tsurugi x 17

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 6 destroyed
Ki-115a Tsurugi: 12 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAP Cape Canso, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Trathen
xAK Alcoa Polaris
DD Tingey
xAK Alcoa Pegasus, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-115a Tsurugi flying as kamikaze
Kamikaze: 1 x 800 kg GP Bomb
5 x J2M5 Jack sweeping at 12000 feet
4 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 12000 feet
9 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 12000 feet

My day cap did what it could, but wasn’t enough. FYI Fukuejima is only level 2. I can’t fly too many groups out of there and I had 2 on night cap, only the Corsairs on day cap.

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Submarine attack near Shimonoseki at 104,56

Japanese Ships
xAK Utide Maru

Allied Ships
SS Balao

xAK Utide Maru is sighted by SS Balao
SS Balao launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Utide Maru

The Balao fails again. What an idiot cap’n. Where’s the Bowfin when you need him?

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Ground combat at Bangkok (56,62)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1392 troops, 3 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 55

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 26

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 26 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Bangkok !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
236th Combat Engineer Regiment

Might as well take it on the cheap, since I can. I’ll open up the rail line to Bangkok from Singapore just about when I have a couple of small armor units that can begin taking all the bases in China on the cheap. Might as well deny him the vp. Also, lets take a look at what I'm doing in the North....

BBfanboy · Post by **BBfanboy** » Wed May 23, 2012 11:29 am

Are those straits at Wakkanai and Hakodate still mined? How did your subs transit without loss? Mine detecting sonar like in the movies??

Isn't Shasukotan Jima the one closest to Hokkaido? Is it Onnekotan Jima that you are going for?

Better check Porterfield's AA ammo levels!

AcePylut9 · Post by **AcePylut9** » Wed May 23, 2012 6:00 pm

There's two islands "past" Shasukotan, Onnekotan Jima and Paramishuro (sp).

A few days ago, one of my sctf's covering my CV's had to go back for fuel, along the way, I set all the floatplanes to recon the bases. Most of the bases have 1k troops or so except for Shakutosan and the dot base immediately East - SE of Hokkadaido. 5 APD's can't carry an invasion force, just an occupation force...and none of my troops are really prepped for an atoll invasion.... so I decided to grab Shakutosan, based AV, AD, AS, AG's there to get search and small-boat rearm capability, for a bigger move to the south. I felt that if I grabbed a base or two closer to Japan at this moment, I'd lose it to a small counterattack (i've only got about 5 AV holding that island I just took - as I said, I'm doing the North as cheaply as possible while trying to give the impression of danger)

The straights just north of Wakkanai are not mined - it's the only opening into the Sea of Japan. The straights between Hokkaido and Honshu are not mined very much, I moved most of those subs through those straights with little to no loss.

And yeah, the Porterfield's gonna need to return to base - although the game is actually 1 week ahead of where we're at now.

BBfanboy · Post by **BBfanboy** » Wed May 23, 2012 7:48 pm

Ahh - I missed that dot base next to Onnekotan Jima - was probably thinking of the other one you mentioned next to Hokkaido.
Nice grab by the way. Taking initiative to attack weak points in the enemy line is a great way to move ahead at minimal cost, and throw him off balance.

BTW - straights are heterosexual people. The water filled channels are straits ...(and no, I was never an English teacher) [;)]

AcePylut · Post by **AcePylut** » Thu May 24, 2012 8:16 pm

Interestingly enough, having never gotten a PBEM past '43, I'm totally unused to the power and tempo the allies can do here.

Had I known better, I'd have been bombing Osaka on Day 1 instead of fearing the IJA/IJN aircraft. I'd have pushed towards Japan faster.

This is really a discovery game for me... as in, discovering what it's like to not get your Allied butt kicked all over the place for a year of game time, and discovering what it's like to go "wherever you want", discovering what its like to be the King of the Hill with P51H's. I havent' even started to fathom how I'm going to use some of the fancy planes like the P80 and such.

Of course, it also means planning a 15 division & assorted support troops invasion and that's going to be a monster task. I have 104 APA's, some 20-50 AKA/AK's, tons of ships...

but making it all happen smoothly, so I can get in and out of Japan's doorstep in 2-4 days, is going to be interesting.

BBfanboy · Post by **BBfanboy** » Thu May 24, 2012 9:59 pm

Yeah, it looks awesome when you send TFs with half a dozen CVs all over the place - power to spare!

I've been watching the fighter combat reports and it seems to me that the P47 T-bolt has done better against the Franks than the Mustang. The Mustang may be king of the manoevering dogfight but the T-bolt is the rugged ship that can stick it out after damage in a nose to nose pass. Just my impression, too lazy to do an empirical review of the stats.

AcePylut9 · Post by **AcePylut9** » Fri May 25, 2012 2:51 am

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 19, 45
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Fukue-jima at 101,58, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-7
MTB G-1
MTB G-2
MTB G-3
MTB G-548
MTB G-549
MTB G-550
MTB G-552
MTB G-555
MTB G-840
MTB G-841
MTB G-842, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Dale
AM Kingfisher
xAK Alcoa Polaris

The forced my unloading transport to sea, mission accomplished for them.

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Sub attack near Koshiki-jima Retto at 100,60

Japanese Ships
SS Ha-D-137, hits 3

Allied Ships
DD Tingey
DD Trathen

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Sub attack near Iki-shima at 102,56

Japanese Ships
SS Ha-D-147, hits 20, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Colahan

He sinks.

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ASW attack near Tokara Retto at 99,62

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-D-110, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Trathen

DD Trathen is out of ASW ammo

I only got one hit cuz I was out of ammo

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TF 56 encounters mine field at Guam (106,95)

Japanese Ships
SS I-47, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

hehehe

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Aogashima at 112,65, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Yanagi, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
DD Nire, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Tsuta
DD Hagi, Shell hits 3

Allied Ships
DD Robert Huntington, Shell hits 4
DD Eaton, Shell hits 1
DD Hudson, Shell hits 2

Kanna, I. crosses the 'T'

He crossed the T, but I still beat him up pretty badly. The combat showed much more effective hits by me, then his guys.

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TF 194 encounters mine field at Aogashima (112,65)

Japanese Ships
DD Nire, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

hehehe

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ASW attack near Shimonoseki at 104,56

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 43
SC Ch 41

Allied Ships
SS Balao

SS Balao is located by SC Ch 43
Balao bottoming out ....

The Balao again. Coward

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ASW attack near Guam at 106,95

Japanese Ships
SS I-47, hits 15, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DE Marchand
AO Kaskaskia
DE Poole
DE Pettit
DE Peterson

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Sub attack near Sadogashima at 113,55

Japanese Ships
E Shimushu
E Etoforu
E Kunashiri
E Hachijo

Allied Ships
SS Carp, hits 24, and is sunk

SS Carp launches 2 torpedoes at E Shimushu

My subs had a rough day today

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Night Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 44 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 25

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 18
F6F-5N Hellcat x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged

No Allied losses

Here comes some night air attacks against Manila

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Night Air attack on TF, near Orchid Island at 87,68

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
SC PC-803

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Night Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 6

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 15
F6F-5N Hellcat x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Night Air attack on TF, near Orchid Island at 87,68

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
SC PC-806
SC PC-805

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Sub attack near Shimonoseki at 104,56

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 22, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
SC Ch 41

Allied Ships
SS Balao, hits 12

SS Balao launches 2 torpedoes at SC Ch 22

Heyhey, the Balao hits. Capn must have been chewed out or something. Anyhow, now they popped their cherry, the Balao goes wild….
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Sub attack near Aogashima at 112,65

Japanese Ships
DD Tsuta

Allied Ships
SS Apogon

SS Apogon launches 2 torpedoes

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ASW attack near Iki-shima at 102,56

Japanese Ships
SS Ha-D-149

Allied Ships
DD Colahan

Colohan is out of ASW ammo.
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Submarine attack near Shimonoseki at 104,56

Japanese Ships
xAK Teishun Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Balao

SS Balao is sighted by xAK Teishun Maru
SS Balao launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Teishun Maru

Second successful attack for the Balao

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Sub attack near Maizuru at 110,57

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-58
SC CHa-67
SC CHa-66

Allied Ships
SS Sennet

SS Sennet launches 2 torpedoes at SC CHa-58
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Aogashima at 112,65, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kusunoki, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Odake
DD Hatsuzakura
DD Kaba

Allied Ships
DD Robert Huntington, Shell hits 1
DD Eaton
DD Hudson

The shell didn’t penetrate me

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ASW attack near Hakodate at 120,53

Japanese Ships
DD Shiokaze
DD Sawakaze
DD Yukaze
DD Yakaze

Allied Ships
SS Finback

SS Finback launches 4 torpedoes at DD Shiokaze
Ah crud, missed

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Sub attack near Hakodate at 120,53

Japanese Ships
DD Shiokaze
DD Sawakaze
DD Yukaze
DD Yakaze

Allied Ships
SS Seahorse

SS Seahorse launches 2 torpedoes at DD Shiokaze

Seahorse reacted into the hex and missed on its shot.

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Sub attack near Aogashima at 112,65

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsuzakura

Allied Ships
SS Apogon, hits 10

She’s hurt, but not too badly

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Morning Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 13 destroyed

No Allied losses

Here it comes. . . the day attack on Fukue-jima. He catches some of my bombers on the ground inna bit

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Morning Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 11

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 5 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 25

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Chiba , at 114,61

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 5

Allied aircraft
P-51H Mustang x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51H Mustang: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
47 x P-51H Mustang sweeping at 13000 feet

I forgot to reset my sweep alt, and paid for it.

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 4
Ki-84r Frank x 10

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 3
Ki-84r Frank x 3

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Kobe , at 108,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 24

Allied aircraft
P-51H Mustang x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51H Mustang: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x P-51H Mustang sweeping at 25000 feet *

That’s more like it

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Morning Air attack on Chiba , at 114,61

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 2

Allied aircraft
P-51H Mustang x 16

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 2

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W1 Shinden: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Shindens are tough!

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Morning Air attack on Yakushima , at 101,62

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-40N26 Warhawk x 9

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x P-40N26 Warhawk sweeping at 10000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Matsuyama , at 105,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 16
Ki-201 Karyu x 10

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 25000 feet *
Those Me262’s are awful to fight against

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tsushima at 103,56

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M3-J Sam x 8

Allied aircraft
P-40N26 Warhawk x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N26 Warhawk: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 114 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 18
G4M2 Betty x 30
G4M3a Betty x 36
J2M5 Jack x 15

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M3a Betty: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
SS Aspro, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SS Pargo, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SS Shad, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
xAP Cape Canso, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
DD Thompson, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Port hits 7

All my damaged ships that couldn’t make it out of the safe zone

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Morning Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 15
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 22
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 12
Ki-67-Ia Peggy x 23

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed
Ki-21-IIb Sally: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed
Ki-67-Ia Peggy: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-61C Black Widow: 3 destroyed on ground
SB2C-5 Helldiver: 4 destroyed on ground

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 10

My Helldivers and P61s get a beating. No biggie for the Helldivers, but losing the P61s hurts.

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Morning Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 117 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 65
Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 24
Ki-84a Frank x 19

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-61C Black Widow: 1 destroyed on ground
SB2C-5 Helldiver: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 8

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Morning Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 156 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 22

No Japanese losses

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Morning Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 27

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 15 damaged
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-5 Helldiver: 7 damaged
SB2C-5 Helldiver: 3 destroyed on ground
P-61C Black Widow: 12 damaged
P-61C Black Widow: 4 destroyed on ground
F6F-3N Hellcat: 4 damaged
F6F-3N Hellcat: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
xAK Alcoa Pegasus, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS Shad, heavy damage
xAP Cape Canso, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-45 KAIc Nick bombing from 100 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

These guys came in at 100ft…

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Morning Air attack on 9th Garrison SNLF, at 101,62 (Yakushima)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 20
F6F-5 Hellcat x 20
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 15
SBD-3 Dauntless x 14
SBD-5 Dauntless x 30
TBF-1 Avenger x 28
TBM-1C Avenger x 30

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 1 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged
TBM-1C Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

The remaining forces in Yakushima get a little Stars and Stripes love.

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Morning Air attack on 9th Garrison SNLF, at 101,62 (Yakushima)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 10
F6F-5 Hellcat x 22
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 14
SB2C-3 Helldiver x 15
TBM-1C Avenger x 30
TBM-3 Avenger x 18

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 4 damaged
SB2C-3 Helldiver: 1 damaged
TBM-1C Avenger: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Morning Air attack on Matsuyama , at 105,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 5
Ki-201 Karyu x 6

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 108
B-29B Superfort x 66

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
G4M3a Betty: 1 destroyed on ground
D4Y4 Judy: 3 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 19
Airbase supply hits 12
Runway hits 65

Recon showed much more a/c than I obliterated, so this is kinda disappointing

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Morning Air attack on Matsuyama , at 105,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 59 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 3
Ki-201 Karyu x 1

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 25
B-29B Superfort x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y4 Judy: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 9

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Morning Air attack on Kobe , at 108,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 4

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 482
Nearly 500 Superforts do--

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 8 damaged

Heavy Industry hits 204
200 HI hits

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Morning Air attack on Kobe , at 108,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 63 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 2

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 100

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 5 damaged

Heavy Industry hits 19

This wing didn’t fare as well

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Morning Air attack on Matsuyama , at 105,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 2
Ki-201 Karyu x 1

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on 15th Garrison SNLF, at 101,60 (Koshiki-jima Retto)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 47
B-25J11 Mitchell x 44

Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 4 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
247 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Morning Air attack on 15th Garrison SNLF, at 101,60 (Koshiki-jima Retto)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
Barracuda II x 42
SB2C-5 Helldiver x 24
SBD-6 Dauntless x 24

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Morning Air attack on 15th Garrison SNLF, at 101,60 (Koshiki-jima Retto)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-26C Invader x 51
B-25J11 Mitchell x 12

Allied aircraft losses
A-26C Invader: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
188 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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Morning Air attack on Matsuyama , at 105,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 13

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

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Morning Air attack on Kobe , at 108,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 5 damaged

Heavy Industry hits 3

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Morning Air attack on Kobe , at 108,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-51H Mustang x 47

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
47 x P-51H Mustang sweeping at 25000 feet *

Oh now I sweep. Nice die roll buddy

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Morning Air attack on Yakushima , at 101,62

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-40N26 Warhawk x 28

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 15

No Japanese losses

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 1

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 12

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

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Afternoon Air attack on 9th Garrison SNLF, at 101,62 (Yakushima)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-26C Invader x 36
B-25H Mitchell x 35
B-25J11 Mitchell x 36
PBJ-1J Mitchell x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Afternoon Air attack on Fusan , at 103,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 6
A7M3-J Sam x 5
Ki-84r Frank x 2
Ki-201 Karyu x 3

Allied aircraft
P-51H Mustang x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
A7M3-J Sam: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Recon shows a lot of decent ships in Fusan.. so I’m thinking..

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Sub attack near Shikotan at 126,54

Japanese Ships
SS RO-50

Allied Ships
PF Loch Katrine

SS RO-50 launches 2 torpedoes
Sub escapes detection

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Sub attack near Maizuru at 110,57

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-66
SC CHa-67

Allied Ships
SS Cobbler

SS Cobbler launches 2 torpedoes at SC CHa-66

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Sub attack near Hakodate at 120,53

Japanese Ships
DD Yukaze
DD Sawakaze
DD Yakaze
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
SS Seahorse, hits 19, and is sunk

Bad note to end the day

AcePylut · Post by **AcePylut** » Fri May 25, 2012 11:27 am

This was probably the best day for the Empire so far, thanks to a combination of my stupidity and a nice setup by Cruft. I left a couple of groups at low altitude when I switched them from an escort role to a sweep role, and paid for it by ending up on the wrong side of the AA battle.

Then, I do have to salute Cruft for his switch to a day attack at Fukue-Jima. he pretty much wiped out my Helldiver squadron there (easily replaceable) and did great damage to my P61's (I don't have a lot, and these things are invaluable in a night-cap role). It was a nice setup by Cruft. I had a feeling it was coming, but didn't act on it.

Now that I have 2 bases, soon to be 3, on the doorstep of Japan, it's not going to be this easy for Cruft to be able to pull a move like this. The bases are building quickly and nicely, and soon they'll be big enough where I can put enough CAP in the air to cover both phases of air combat.

The next turn was much better for me, but I still left a couple air groups at low altitude because well there's so much to do, it's just too easy to forget 1 or 2 things.

Crackaces · Post by **Crackaces** » Fri May 25, 2012 3:44 pm

ORIGINAL: AcePylut

This was probably the best day for the Empire so far, thanks to a combination of my stupidity and a nice setup by Cruft. I left a couple of groups at low altitude when I switched them from an escort role to a sweep role, and paid for it by ending up on the wrong side of the AA battle.

Then, I do have to salute Cruft for his switch to a day attack at Fukue-Jima. he pretty much wiped out my Helldiver squadron there (easily replaceable) and did great damage to my P61's (I don't have a lot, and these things are invaluable in a night-cap role). It was a nice setup by Cruft. I had a feeling it was coming, but didn't act on it.

Now that I have 2 bases, soon to be 3, on the doorstep of Japan, it's not going to be this easy for Cruft to be able to pull a move like this. The bases are building quickly and nicely, and soon they'll be big enough where I can put enough CAP in the air to cover both phases of air combat.

The next turn was much better for me, but I still left a couple air groups at low altitude because well there's so much to do, it's just too easy to forget 1 or 2 things.

Just a thought .. I check Witp Tracker Aircroups option and check my sweeps and escorts before submitting the turn. Both who is doing it, and at what altitude .. but like you I forget [;)]

BBfanboy · Post by **BBfanboy** » Fri May 25, 2012 4:36 pm

Amen on the things this game forces you to track. I have taken to making a to-do list as I think of things and as I watch the combat replays.
Still manage to miss a few things each turn though...[8|]

AcePylut · Post by **AcePylut** » Tue May 29, 2012 1:38 pm

I have a lot of re-org going on right now, so the turn's going to take a few days.

I'm getting my troops positioned for embarkation to the invasion of Japan. If I want to land on Month 2, Day 1, I figure I'll need to start loading the transports about 2-3 weeks before.

I have three invasion options for and “first pass” pro’s cons of each:

#1 Korea instead of Kyushu
Pros: lots of bases, lots of landing zones, Can build level 9 port in Sea of Japan and open the “interior” of Japan to Invasion. Can probably take without too much damage to my infantry. Unexpected invasion site, may take too long for Cruft to figure it out, and may avoid the full brunt of the kami’s.
Cons: It’s not Japan. Longest supply line. Does not bring me any bases closer to Japan than other options. Victory Points probably not as much as Kyushu. Cruft can throw all his air to closing Korea as much as possible, and I’ll have to use my CV’s to keep the sea lines open instead of just lba.

#2 Kyushu
Pros: Lots of bases, extremely close to my air bases, easiest supply chain, easiest to reinforce and bring more troops
Cons: Obvious invasion location means probably the most well defended. Only a couple clear hexes to invade lest I face forts and forest multipliers. Can be reinforced by Japan with other troops on Kyushu. Will face the full brunt of the Kamikaze’s.

#3 Shikoko Island (the island with three bases between Kyushu and Honshu
Pros: Hard for Cruft to reinforce once it’s clear. Opens up the Inland Sea to invasion. Bypasses the forts on Kyushu, probably not well defended.
Cons: Only three bases. Does not connect to Kyushu or Honshu. Not a lot of VP’s.

I plan on coming ashore with 15 Infantry Divisions. Each infantry division will have an Armor unit designated as that ID’s armor unit. Each ID will have a “small” Arty unit attached to it. Every three ID’s makes a corps, and each corps will consist of (above and beyond the 3 ID’s, 3 Armor Units, and 3 Arty Units) it’s parent HQ, it’s parent CBT Eng, and it’s parent Arty unit. Any additional units attached to the corps will also come along for the ride (incl a couple amphib tank battalions). I’ll supplement the invasion force with a couple more Combat Engr regiments to beef up fort destruction. This will be my combat force.

Support Forces consist of the necessary USN and USA base forces to provide adequate support (haven’t figured out how much and how many, yet), construction battalions, and probably 10-15 AA units. I’ll also bring along the Army HQ.

I have 100+ APA’s and 50ish AKA’s and AK’s. I’ll use these and LCT’s LCI’s etc to load up the combat forces for a 1 (or 2) day unload (depending on if I have enough to unload all in one day). xAP’s and xAK’s will be used for the support forces (while relying on enough naval support landing via Amphib Support units to unload these). I’ll bring along a couple of empty 100 ship landing craft units to assist in unloading. I want to bring enough ships to unload everything in a maximum of 2 days.
So, to land 15 divisions and all that extra stuff, I’m guessing I’ll need around 500 ships just carrying troops supplies. Tack on another 400 or so Combat ships, and another 3-400 landing craft ships, and I’m looking at an invasion fleet of something like 1200-1500 ships.

BBfanboy · Post by **BBfanboy** » Tue May 29, 2012 3:11 pm

Suddenly this "fun" scenario [because of all the toys] looks like a lot of work! [:(]

AcePylut · Post by **AcePylut** » Tue May 29, 2012 5:08 pm

It is. A lot of it is simply “learning”. For example, I looked over my units for the amphib assault and saw a couple of “Amphib Tank BN” and thougt, well darn it, that’s gotta be in the invasion fleet for it’s clearly labeled “Amphibious”… so what’s in this amphib tank Bn?

A ton of LVT(A)-4’s are in it. Great!!! What’s an LVT(A)-4?
Oh it’s one of those amtraks but it has a 75mm cannon! Ding Ding Ding it’s definitely going.

I can’t imagine the number of 75mm cannons I’m going to throw at the Nippon. First off, I have about 300 aircraft that mount a 75 mm cannon, so there’s that. Then there’s a number of these amphib tank bn’s that are being used…. And I haven’t even considered the number of 75mm cannons in my LCU’s… must be a billion of them between the Infantry Divs, Arty, AA, and Tank units.

BBfanboy · Post by **BBfanboy** » Tue May 29, 2012 7:21 pm

And of course, the ubiquitous Sherman regiments ...

rjopel · Post by **rjopel** » Tue May 29, 2012 9:17 pm

ORIGINAL: AcePylut

I have a lot of re-org going on right now, so the turn's going to take a few days.

I'm getting my troops positioned for embarkation to the invasion of Japan. If I want to land on Month 2, Day 1, I figure I'll need to start loading the transports about 2-3 weeks before.

I have three invasion options for and “first pass” pro’s cons of each:

#1 Korea instead of Kyushu
Pros: lots of bases, lots of landing zones, Can build level 9 port in Sea of Japan and open the “interior” of Japan to Invasion. Can probably take without too much damage to my infantry. Unexpected invasion site, may take too long for Cruft to figure it out, and may avoid the full brunt of the kami’s.
Cons: It’s not Japan. Longest supply line. Does not bring me any bases closer to Japan than other options. Victory Points probably not as much as Kyushu. Cruft can throw all his air to closing Korea as much as possible, and I’ll have to use my CV’s to keep the sea lines open instead of just lba.

#2 Kyushu
Pros: Lots of bases, extremely close to my air bases, easiest supply chain, easiest to reinforce and bring more troops
Cons: Obvious invasion location means probably the most well defended. Only a couple clear hexes to invade lest I face forts and forest multipliers. Can be reinforced by Japan with other troops on Kyushu. Will face the full brunt of the Kamikaze’s.

#3 Shikoko Island (the island with three bases between Kyushu and Honshu
Pros: Hard for Cruft to reinforce once it’s clear. Opens up the Inland Sea to invasion. Bypasses the forts on Kyushu, probably not well defended.
Cons: Only three bases. Does not connect to Kyushu or Honshu. Not a lot of VP’s.

I plan on coming ashore with 15 Infantry Divisions. Each infantry division will have an Armor unit designated as that ID’s armor unit. Each ID will have a “small” Arty unit attached to it. Every three ID’s makes a corps, and each corps will consist of (above and beyond the 3 ID’s, 3 Armor Units, and 3 Arty Units) it’s parent HQ, it’s parent CBT Eng, and it’s parent Arty unit. Any additional units attached to the corps will also come along for the ride (incl a couple amphib tank battalions). I’ll supplement the invasion force with a couple more Combat Engr regiments to beef up fort destruction. This will be my combat force.

Support Forces consist of the necessary USN and USA base forces to provide adequate support (haven’t figured out how much and how many, yet), construction battalions, and probably 10-15 AA units. I’ll also bring along the Army HQ.

I have 100+ APA’s and 50ish AKA’s and AK’s. I’ll use these and LCT’s LCI’s etc to load up the combat forces for a 1 (or 2) day unload (depending on if I have enough to unload all in one day). xAP’s and xAK’s will be used for the support forces (while relying on enough naval support landing via Amphib Support units to unload these). I’ll bring along a couple of empty 100 ship landing craft units to assist in unloading. I want to bring enough ships to unload everything in a maximum of 2 days.
So, to land 15 divisions and all that extra stuff, I’m guessing I’ll need around 500 ships just carrying troops supplies. Tack on another 400 or so Combat ships, and another 3-400 landing craft ships, and I’m looking at an invasion fleet of something like 1200-1500 ships.

So it looks like what the historical invasion would have been.

AcePylut · Post by **AcePylut** » Wed May 30, 2012 1:14 pm

Well, if I go after Kyushu, I need to stop him from being able to rail troops into the hex, or seriously limit his ability to reinforce. To do that, the best way I can think of is to use my B29's to ground attack all the locations in Kyushu that hold troops on a daily basis. This will force them out of "strat" mode and "move" mode and into Combat mode... that should slow them down a bit at least.

Of course, I need to drop level 9 forts to zero and take the base. to do that will require a large commitment of aircraft to pummel the troops on the ground and the port/af. So I figure I'll use the 4E's to bomb non-invasion hexes filled with troops, and use the 1E's and 2E's as close in ground support to the invasion. This is why it's key for me the "end" the strat bombing campaign by the end of this month. The only real HI center left is Tokyo, and Tokyo will get it's due...shortly.

If I go for Korea or Shikiko (sp), then those concerns are not there. I can easily take a port base in Korea with 15 divs in a couple days. I think. I can use airpower to prevent any reinforcement of Shikiko.

Pros, Cons, going to decide tonite so I can start setting planning for my troops. I don't htink I'll be going in with 100% prep.

BBfanboy · Post by **BBfanboy** » Wed May 30, 2012 2:07 pm

I don't think bombing causes units to come out of strat mode - at least in stock, latest update, scenario.
I was interested to see what was needed to neutralize Truk's forts so I did a simulation where I played the scenario head-to-head. I put Truk's defences all on Strat mode and pounded away with bombers and surface ships as close as 1K yards. The units [including infantry] never came out of strat mode, but it took exceedingly long for the damage to pile up enough to destroy the forts - 3 months of almost daily pounding IIR. I ended up landing raiders from APDs and paratroops before the fort was completely gone and the defenders never came out of Strat mode.

If Downfall has not changed that, you will have to delay the reinforcements at their train debarkation point. I invaded Hokkaido first, and once I held all six bases I landed at Fukuoka so that I could stop reinforcements coming to Kyushu across the rail bridge next to Shimonoseki. Just put a strong blocking force in the hex SE of Fukuoka. Of course I had to neutralize Tsushima and Iki Shima forts first and clear mines +I think the defences are much more developed in your scenario.

AcePylut · Post by **AcePylut** » Wed May 30, 2012 2:26 pm

Yes I'm sure his defenses are much stronger.

He's been mining that "Fusan-Tsushima-Fukukoka (sp)" line since day 1, has reinforced and built up all three of these bases. he's been using this "mine of death" (lol at the pun over "line of death". Sry, I amuse myself quite often) to shuffle troops from Korea to Japan, as all three bases are heavily capped (Karyu's over all three) and what's left of his fleet is located all in these three hexes.

The CAP's too much for me to break through, and a couple of attacks by my Helldivers at FukueJima went after less heavily defended task forces. He's using my tricks in reverse. That bastard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was seriously considering invading that hex on the far south of Kyushu. It's not on a rail hex, but it's wooded and at last check, he had upwards of 20-30k troops there. I think that hex, with it's forts and forest, will be too much to take as fast as I need to take it with casualties at an acceptable level. In short, I think it'll take too long to take, and beat up my forces too much.

The fort/forest hex in Shikiko (kochi?), same issues, but he won't be able to reinforce it, and it's not as heavily defended.

Korea has too many clear hex invasion sites for him to cover adequately, so I know this would fall fairly easily.

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