41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Casualty ratios favor the Axis partly from a game adjustment for Soviet style attacks ( leads to higher casualties ) and the 1941 experience deficit for the Soviets ( 40ish vs 75ish for the Germans ).
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Turn 14, Before Soviet moves.
Mud! Mud paralyzes enemy activity in the Moscow area, and gives our troops a welcome breather. Unreadiness has fallen to less than a quarter of our army.
The fascists do, however, manage to achieve a bridgehead north of Moscow, and this one I can't throw back. I will, however, attempt to contain it.
The bad news is that I made a blunder. I figured that the enemy would not have enough mps to curve southwards and so weakly defended the southern Donbass. The reward was that Taganrog was captured with its Lagg factories unevacuated. Thankfully there are 3 other sites that produce those planes, but this one hurt. I opted to evacuated 15 arm points out of Stalino, and maybe that was the wrong choice. Now Rostov is threatened, adn there aren't many reserves in the south. The good news is that the defenders of Sevastopol withstood seven assaults without budging (some of those were air assaults). Had I the power I'd give them all Guards status.

Mud! Mud paralyzes enemy activity in the Moscow area, and gives our troops a welcome breather. Unreadiness has fallen to less than a quarter of our army.
The fascists do, however, manage to achieve a bridgehead north of Moscow, and this one I can't throw back. I will, however, attempt to contain it.
The bad news is that I made a blunder. I figured that the enemy would not have enough mps to curve southwards and so weakly defended the southern Donbass. The reward was that Taganrog was captured with its Lagg factories unevacuated. Thankfully there are 3 other sites that produce those planes, but this one hurt. I opted to evacuated 15 arm points out of Stalino, and maybe that was the wrong choice. Now Rostov is threatened, adn there aren't many reserves in the south. The good news is that the defenders of Sevastopol withstood seven assaults without budging (some of those were air assaults). Had I the power I'd give them all Guards status.

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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
So was this overkill? Wanted to give a more in depth analysis up to now.
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
That was a very timely mud turn!
The problem I see down south is that you have absolutely nothing stopping him from going nuts the following turn. He'll reestablish supply and run amok. I suppose as long as you hold Rostov this isn't fatal, but he could pocket more or less everything between Gorlovka and the Black Sea. You're going to need more stuff in Rostov, too.
The problem I see down south is that you have absolutely nothing stopping him from going nuts the following turn. He'll reestablish supply and run amok. I suppose as long as you hold Rostov this isn't fatal, but he could pocket more or less everything between Gorlovka and the Black Sea. You're going to need more stuff in Rostov, too.
WitE Alpha Tester
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Isolating those panzers is going to seriously limit his mobility next turn and potentially the turn after.
Don't underestimate the effect of a turn without fuel (after turn 2 or so) on the mobile divs.
Don't underestimate the effect of a turn without fuel (after turn 2 or so) on the mobile divs.
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
They don't need to move very far, the terrain is clear, and there's nothing opposing them. I'm also assuming the got air resupply on their own turn.
If they can muster 20 odd MPs, that's good enough to cause real havok.
I would have used some of those tank brigades to slap some tar baby on those guys. Just park them adjacent to the enemy and force them to shake them off.
If they can muster 20 odd MPs, that's good enough to cause real havok.
I would have used some of those tank brigades to slap some tar baby on those guys. Just park them adjacent to the enemy and force them to shake them off.
WitE Alpha Tester
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Judging purely from the screen shots I'd say that the better option would have been to hit that Slovakian mot division.It would have isolated more divisions for very little effort.ORIGINAL: notenome
So was this overkill? Wanted to give a more in depth analysis up to now.
Tell me the last screen shot isn't the final position.If it is then your army at Stalino has it's head in a noose.
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
No final positions are coming now. I was asking if the level of detail on the counter attack was overkill, with every air bombardment and detailed casualty reports and such.
EDIT: The Slovakian/panzer stack was unviable. I studied it but wouldn't have been able to get forces with enough mps for a strong deliberate attack. Had it been logistically possible it would have been the best option, I agree
EDIT: The Slovakian/panzer stack was unviable. I studied it but wouldn't have been able to get forces with enough mps for a strong deliberate attack. Had it been logistically possible it would have been the best option, I agree
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End of turn.
In order to bolster the defense of the Donbass and Rostov I have stripped southwestern front fairly dry. Units get railed in all over. As not much is happening due to mud and quiet pull backs, no mega picture this time.
The slow retreat in the north:

In order to bolster the defense of the Donbass and Rostov I have stripped southwestern front fairly dry. Units get railed in all over. As not much is happening due to mud and quiet pull backs, no mega picture this time.
The slow retreat in the north:

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Moscow, where unit density has gotten so high I'm having a lot of trouble keeping things even moderately organized.


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And finally the south, where an ad hoc defense has been made to try and goad 821 to maneuver north and form what would hopefully be the last pocket of the war. Blue arrows are where I hope he goes, orange where I hope he doesn't. More reinforcements are on the way, but we just need 3 more turns until mud.
Rostov is mostly evacuated. If everything goes to plan Rostov will be empty by next turn, and then the evacuation of Moscow (hopefully the last major evacuation of the war) will begin.

Rostov is mostly evacuated. If everything goes to plan Rostov will be empty by next turn, and then the evacuation of Moscow (hopefully the last major evacuation of the war) will begin.

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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Heh, warn us next time when you are mid turn so that I don't get a panic attack. I assumed those were end turn screens earlier.
WitE Alpha Tester
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
I may like to play it fast and loose, but not that much, still I've stripped SW, NW and N bare. He has no armour there to exploit so it's a slow 2 hex retreat all the way.
A few questions:
-With the winter starting to come up, should I start building anything? Sappers? Saving up APs? I need to burn APs to counterattack, so I haven't built up an AP piggy bank.
-I Need more Fronts! Really, when do I get the Caucus Front? Or at least the units. Its murder to see all those units frozen.
-Siberian infantry! I have 4, and I love them. I want to hug them. They hold the 3 main hexes on the direct path to Moscow. I want more. How many do I get?
-What should I do with those tank brigades? I'm just dispersing them around hoping they'll do something in reserve mode. But each has 6-8 tanks, so it seems just a tremendous waste.
A few questions:
-With the winter starting to come up, should I start building anything? Sappers? Saving up APs? I need to burn APs to counterattack, so I haven't built up an AP piggy bank.
-I Need more Fronts! Really, when do I get the Caucus Front? Or at least the units. Its murder to see all those units frozen.
-Siberian infantry! I have 4, and I love them. I want to hug them. They hold the 3 main hexes on the direct path to Moscow. I want more. How many do I get?
-What should I do with those tank brigades? I'm just dispersing them around hoping they'll do something in reserve mode. But each has 6-8 tanks, so it seems just a tremendous waste.
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
You'll get a 250 AP dump when the 2 Caucasian fronts activate later on. Buy enough sappers to trick out your cavalry corps.
WitE Alpha Tester
RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 821 past first page.
Overkill on the screenies? A bit. I just make note of the number of air attacks on a unit, don't really care of the results, unless I am the one doing the attacks. But, if you feel the effort is not a problem on your end, I am sure someone out there will appreciate and pour over every detail. Nice stuff overall.
