Wildcat, Hellcat,...Deadcat?

[John 3rd]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: wdolson

A bit macabre.

Bill

"A bit"????[&:]

I'd lean towards sick and wrong.

[geofflambert]

Why couldn't he have done that before the cat died? He could've chased the birds out of the trees. [:D]

[barkman44]

So whats the matter what happens to a corpse??Like the dead marine in somalia I guess they were just doing a little urban street cleanup with him on the end of that rope!
I know cats are'nt human but i'd rather be around my 4 cats than 50% of the human beings I deal with every day
Like the old cook in the "undefeated"said"they bury their leavin's and clean up afterwards which is more than I can say for most of us"
That artist is SICK and so is the person who did the work for him.

ORIGINAL: Historiker

It was already dead and he hadn't killed it for this use. So what's the matter what happenes to a corpse?
Turning it into a copter is bad, but taking the fur and hang it on the wall is kosher?

c'mon!

[danlongman]

My kat kept waking me up and pantomiming "Timmy fell down a well!! Help Hurry!" then run to the kat treats.
I do not have a well and anybody I know named Timmy belongs down a well.
That comparison above is what is sick IMHO.
cheers

[Historiker]

ORIGINAL: barkorn45

So whats the matter what happens to a corpse??Like the dead marine in somalia I guess they were just doing a little urban street cleanup with him on the end of that rope!
I know cats are'nt human but i'd rather be around my 4 cats than 50% of the human beings I deal with every day
Like the old cook in the "undefeated"said"they bury their leavin's and clean up afterwards which is more than I can say for most of us"
That artist is SICK and so is the person who did the work for him.

ORIGINAL: Historiker

It was already dead and he hadn't killed it for this use. So what's the matter what happenes to a corpse?
Turning it into a copter is bad, but taking the fur and hang it on the wall is kosher?

c'mon!

I don't give a fuck what happens to my body when I'm dead. I won't feel anything, I won't care at all. Hang the corpse from a bridge and let it rot, who cares? Take care of me as long as I am alive!

Why should I take it different with animals? We have pets as well, but to be attached to my animals is to them alive and to their memory, not to a corpse!

[wdolson]

ORIGINAL: Historiker

It was already dead and he hadn't killed it for this use. So what's the matter what happenes to a corpse?
Turning it into a copter is bad, but taking the fur and hang it on the wall is kosher?

c'mon!

I wouldn't do that either.

As I said, we're split down the middle on whether this is cool or well gross. It says more about how we approach the world than anything else.

There was an OT thread here a while back on the Myers Briggs Type Indicator. One of the categories on that test is for how we go about making decisions. One way uses objective criteria, logic, dispassionate as possible. And the other uses more subjective criteria, values, and can weigh in how it affects the people (and even critters) involved.

It's not that the former is cold and unfeeling, and the latter wears their hearts on their sleeves (though it can be in extreme cases), and we all use both decision making techniques. The MBTI is about which is preferred and which has weigh when making a decision. All my decision making takes into account the former, but I prefer the latter a bit more. Hence I'm more in the "it's gross camp" on this one.

Other people are more dispassionate when it comes to critters. There is no judgement on a person's character one way or the other, it just is the way we are. As long as live critters don't suffer unnecessarily as a result of being too dispassionate, I can accept it.

Bringing this up before this thread turns into a flame war.

Bill

[agranel]

ORIGINAL: ckammp

Sick, disgusting, and disrespectful. Very sad to see this considered "art".

Totally agreed.

[Commander Stormwolf]

Seems to me that many in this world have more respect for the dead, than for the living

[Chickenboy]

I'm flexible with the way that people wish to pay homage to their deceased pets. Some owners opt for 'group cremation', some for private cremation whereby they get the ashes back. Some bury their pets, etc. etc. There are some companies that will take the ashes and make ornaments or jewelry or incorporate ashes into an outdoor marker. I've seen cenotaphs for companion animals too (e.g., horses) that are too large for burial. I've seen freeze dried pets or taxidermy mounted animals too. So long as it's respectful (and 'respect' is in the eye of the beholder), I don't have a problem with any of it. Some of the methods can be quite beautiful and useful for the healing process.

We have clay paw imprints and hair lockets from most of our pets that have passed on as a remembrance. I think these are tasteful and nice mementos.

Turning your dead cat into a helicopter is one I've never seen before. It's pretty extreme, I'm sure all would agree (hence the international press coverage). The article sounds like the guy-by all accounts-liked his cat and cared for it well while it was alive. So, while this *is* macabre, I'm not willing to put this guy in a rubber room for being insane. It's "out there", attention getting and, yes, macabre, but different strokes for different folks and all that.

I've had any number of cats with "substrate aversion" or behavioral issues that use urine-based methods of territorial marking or have poor litterbox hygeine. Perhaps this gentleman could incorporate tomcat urine into his routine?

Although "Predator" as an airborne weapons system has already been used, perhaps this AWACS (Airborne Whizzing and Claw System) could be weaponized with a store of aged tomcat urine? Now really-who wouldn't want to see Ahmadinejad get soaked by this contraption? Hell, I'd pay good money for that.

[danlongman]

If you get all dewy eyed about poor old fluffy and their ilk, when was the last time you saw a kat bury its tenant? They bury their poops if they aren't mad about something.
That bugger cost me 50 bux just to get rid of him without breaking the law. People who get too sensitive about animals
better be vegans. Maybe they ought to try working in a large semi-industrial pig barn. As a society we EAT most of the animals
we keep around. But first we fatten them up in pens before we kill 'em. A few kats and dawgs get to live in a house and get loved
by their people but the rest get ate. If I died and somebody turned me into a helicopter I would be the coolest soul in hell!!
The ramifications are thrilling!! Think of the SF story "The Ship Who Sang" what a beautiful love story that was!
soojan would tell you as long as you do not use sawdust from the petshop in your kitchen this is all good.
cheers

[HansBolter]

ORIGINAL: Commander Stormwolf

Seems to me that many in this world have more respect for the dead, than for the living

Maybe that's because they are more deserving of it.

This is a plea for a moderator to lock this thread and BAN the excuse for a human who started it!

[Historiker]

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: Commander Stormwolf

Seems to me that many in this world have more respect for the dead, than for the living

Maybe that's because they are more deserving of it.

This is a plea for a moderator to lock this thread and BAN the excuse for a human who started it!

[X(]

The dead deserve more respect than the living?
Treespider in an "excuse for a human" and should be banned because he posted it?


This thread must stay open to give more users the possibility to show their inner sides...

[Miller]

I like cats and dogs but I have to admit I had to laugh when I first saw that. Some people are more sensitive to things like this than others......

[danlongman]

Some people value the "dignity" of a DEAD CAT over the rights of a living thinking human.
Did they know this varmint? I hope kats poop in their geraniums. Or even better people.
We feed our meat animals and pets food that could feed starving people. I heard somewhere there is
a food shortage out there. We burn food people could eat in our cars.
cheers

[treespider]

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: Commander Stormwolf

Seems to me that many in this world have more respect for the dead, than for the living

Maybe that's because they are more deserving of it.

This is a plea for a moderator to lock this thread and BAN the excuse for a human who started it!

Wow ... I made no comment one way or the other about the nature of the content ...and I am subjected to a personal insult.

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Guess its time to hold Mr. Wilkerson's feet to the fire. PM sent.

[barkman44]

Are you an organ donor?If so then you do care about what happens after your dead,if not then you really don't give a **** about yourself or anybody else.
As for my cats I have them cremated and place their ashes in an urn shaped like a sleeping cat that has the words"let sleeping cats lie".
Thats dignity and rememberance not turning them into a toy that you will eventually grow tired of and put on a shelf in the basement.

ORIGINAL: Historiker

ORIGINAL: barkorn45

So whats the matter what happens to a corpse??Like the dead marine in somalia I guess they were just doing a little urban street cleanup with him on the end of that rope!
I know cats are'nt human but i'd rather be around my 4 cats than 50% of the human beings I deal with every day
Like the old cook in the "undefeated"said"they bury their leavin's and clean up afterwards which is more than I can say for most of us"
That artist is SICK and so is the person who did the work for him.

ORIGINAL: Historiker

It was already dead and he hadn't killed it for this use. So what's the matter what happenes to a corpse?
Turning it into a copter is bad, but taking the fur and hang it on the wall is kosher?

c'mon!

I don't give a fuck what happens to my body when I'm dead. I won't feel anything, I won't care at all. Hang the corpse from a bridge and let it rot, who cares? Take care of me as long as I am alive!

Why should I take it different with animals? We have pets as well, but to be attached to my animals is to them alive and to their memory, not to a corpse!

[Historiker]

ORIGINAL: barkorn45

Are you an organ donor?If so then you do care about what happens after your dead,if not then you really don't give a **** about yourself or anybody else.
As for my cats I have them cremated and place their ashes in an urn shaped like a sleeping cat that has the words"let sleeping cats lie".
Thats dignity and rememberance not turning them into a toy that you will eventually grow tired of and put on a shelf in the basement.

ORIGINAL: Historiker

ORIGINAL: barkorn45

So whats the matter what happens to a corpse??Like the dead marine in somalia I guess they were just doing a little urban street cleanup with him on the end of that rope!
I know cats are'nt human but i'd rather be around my 4 cats than 50% of the human beings I deal with every day
Like the old cook in the "undefeated"said"they bury their leavin's and clean up afterwards which is more than I can say for most of us"
That artist is SICK and so is the person who did the work for him.

I don't give a fuck what happens to my body when I'm dead. I won't feel anything, I won't care at all. Hang the corpse from a bridge and let it rot, who cares? Take care of me as long as I am alive!

Why should I take it different with animals? We have pets as well, but to be attached to my animals is to them alive and to their memory, not to a corpse!

I am a donor, especially because I don't care whether I'm burried "complete" or not, and because the living are important and not my corpse.

[AW1Steve]

ORIGINAL: Historiker

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: Commander Stormwolf

Seems to me that many in this world have more respect for the dead, than for the living

Maybe that's because they are more deserving of it.

This is a plea for a moderator to lock this thread and BAN the excuse for a human who started it!

[X(]

The dead deserve more respect than the living?
Treespider in an "excuse for a human" and should be banned because he posted it?


This thread must stay open to give more users the possibility to show their inner sides...

In one respect yes, the dead deserve more respect. Like children and animals, they can't defend themselves. We are (or at least should be) judged on how we treat others, dead and ALIVE. It seems that if you show no respect to the dead (a crucial tradition in most societies) you probably don't show much to the living. Hence society degenerates into a "me-first" society. Just my personal belief , for what ever (if anything) it's worth. [:(]

[LoBaron]

Tree, I think it was an attempt at humor. At least I would view it as such independent of the intention... [;)]

[AW1Steve]

ORIGINAL: Miller

I like cats and dogs but I have to admit I had to laugh when I first saw that. Some people are more sensitive to things like this than others......

I've got to agree. How do I explain that I'm appalled and amused at the same moment? [8|]


American "Cowboy actor" Roy Rodgers had his dog "Bullet" stuffed and displayed in his museum upon the dogs death. Then he did the same to his horse "trigger". Rumor has it, his wife, Dale Evans was very nervous.... fortunately , he predisposed her![:D]