Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 Fulkerson(J) vs Moore (A)

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: moore4807
Hmm, does anyone else think Larry's boys are coming to Kuantan soon?
Just workin his way south down the peninsula.

I'm bombing Kuantan because that's where your planes are. I don't have the range to Singapore yet but I'm working on it. One time the FBI asked Jesse James why he kept robbing banks and he said 'cause that's where the money is.

[Q-Ball]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

ORIGINAL: moore4807
Hmm, does anyone else think Larry's boys are coming to Kuantan soon?
Just workin his way south down the peninsula.

I'm bombing Kuantan because that's where your planes are. I don't have the range to Singapore yet but I'm working on it. One time the FBI asked Jesse James why he kept robbing banks and he said 'cause that's where the money is.

You should have plenty of range from Kota Bharu, which is something like 8 hexes. Use 100 Sallys and an Oscar Daitai or two. Sweep Singapore with Zeros until you are satisfied the Allies aren't capping it. But always escort the bombers just in case they reappear. If you don't have enough air support, you can temporarily run missions short, and move Av support over from Kompong Trach, which is only 2 days sail.

You need to bomb Singapore daily to stop him from foritfying it

[moore4807]

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

ORIGINAL: moore4807
Hmm, does anyone else think Larry's boys are coming to Kuantan soon?
Just workin his way south down the peninsula.

I'm bombing Kuantan because that's where your planes are. I don't have the range to Singapore yet but I'm working on it. One time the FBI asked Jesse James why he kept robbing banks and he said 'cause that's where the money is.

You should have plenty of range from Kota Bharu, which is something like 8 hexes. Use 100 Sallys and an Oscar Daitai or two. Sweep Singapore with Zeros until you are satisfied the Allies aren't capping it. But always escort the bombers just in case they reappear. If you don't have enough air support, you can temporarily run missions short, and move Av support over from Kompong Trach, which is only 2 days sail.

You need to bomb Singapore daily to stop him from foritfying it

Q-BALL!!! Sigh... [;)] Like Larry NEEDS any more help kicking my Allies all over the Pacific! [:D][:D][:D]
Actually thanks to everyone reading this AAR and for the suggestions, it only helps us become better players [&o][&o][&o]


Larry;
I'm workin on the current turn now - can you give me a little time so I can catch up to your Dec 20th report? Otherwise we'll have readers flippin pages back n forth trying to make sense of it.
Readers - we have a couple exciting (for me anyway!) turns to get to - we are delayed a week due to OPSEC issues and appreciate your patience..[8D]

[moore4807]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 19, 41

Virtually my only bright spot is the Subs/ASW warfare - so I'll start there...

ASW attack near Bandjermasin at 58,99
Japanese Ships
SS I-157, hits 6

Allied Ships
DD Evertsen
DD Witte de With

SS I-157 is sighted by escort
DD Evertsen attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-157 eludes DD Evertsen by hugging bottom
DD Witte de With fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Evertsen fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Witte de With fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Evertsen fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Evertsen fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Evertsen attacking submerged sub ....
DD Evertsen is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub

Sub attack near Pearl Harbor at 181,101
Japanese Ships
SS I-21

Allied Ships
DD Aylwin
SS I-21 launches 2 torpedoes
DD Aylwin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Aylwin attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-21 eludes ASW attack from DD Aylwin
SS I-21 eludes ASW attack from DD Aylwin
DD Aylwin cannot reach attack position over SS I-21
DD Aylwin cannot establish contact with SS I-21
DD Aylwin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Aylwin attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-21 eludes ASW attack from DD Aylwin
DD Aylwin attacking submerged sub ....
DD Aylwin cannot reach attack position over SS I-21
DD Aylwin is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub

Submarine attack near Davao at 80,93
Japanese Ships
xAKL Nissen Maru #2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS

xAKL Nissen Maru #2 is sighted by SS
SS launches 2 torpedoes at xAKL Nissen Maru #2

Submarine attack near Pearl Harbor at 178,111

Japanese Ships
SS I-174

Allied Ships
DD Farragut
SS I-174 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Farragut
DD Farragut fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Farragut attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-174 eludes DD Farragut by diving deep
DD Farragut loses contact with SS I-174
SS I-174 eludes ASW attack from DD Farragut
DD Farragut loses contact with SS I-174
DD Farragut fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 182,103
Japanese Ships
SS I-25

Allied Ships
DD Litchfield

SS I-25 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Litchfield
I-25 diving deep ....
DD Litchfield fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
You should have plenty of range from Kota Bharu, which is something like 8 hexes. Use 100 Sallys and an Oscar Daitai or two. Sweep Singapore with Zeros until you are satisfied the Allies aren't capping it. But always escort the bombers just in case they reappear.

Sounds really good to me.

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
If you don't have enough air support, you can temporarily run missions short, and move Av support over from Kompong Trach, which is only 2 days sail.

I'm not familiar with the local vernacular.......what is it you do when you "run missions short"? Use only a few planes?

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
You need to bomb Singapore daily to stop him from foritfying it

I did not know that. Cool. I'll have to move some planes around to make it happen but I'm thinking it's doable. Thanks Q-Ball dude. And for your information mr. moore dude....you're the one who wanted both sides represented in this AAR and if I was doing my separate AAR Q-Ball could have made his suggestion in IT and you wouldn't have known. LOL. Actually, to be fair I guess the next suggestion should help out the Allies. I've got a suggestion: start fortifing Darwin 'cause I'm headed that way.

[larryfulkerson]

Larry;
I'm workin on the current turn now - can you give me a little time so I can catch up to your Dec 20th report? Otherwise we'll have readers flippin pages back n forth trying to make sense of it.

Yeah, sure. Take your time. I've got all kinds of reports lined up but I can hold them until you give me the go ahead. I'm working on Rob's moves right now anyway.

Here's the list of future reports ready already.

[moore4807]

TF 593 encounters mine field at Hong Kong (77,61)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-20
DMS W-19
DMS W-18
DMS W-17
DMS W-16
DMS W-15
DMS W-14
DMS W-13
DMS W-12
DMS W-11
DMS W-10
DMS W-9
341 mines cleared

One turn - one fair sized minefield eliminated, any questions?

Now as reported by Larry, The taking of Wake Is. 1-2-3… no supply was the deciding factor- he sunk everything that was sent that way.

Pre-Invasion action off Wake Island (136,98)
4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
xAK Yokohama Maru
xAK Matsue Maru
xAK Venice Maru
xAK Nishimi Maru

xAK Yokohama Maru fired at enemy guns
xAK Matsue Maru fired at enemy guns
xAK Venice Maru fired at enemy guns
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards
Amphibious Assault at Wake Island (136,98)

TF 610 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 136,98

Invasion Support action off Wake Island (136,98)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force
4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAK Yokohama Maru
xAK Matsue Maru
xAK Venice Maru
xAK Nishimi Maru

xAK Yokohama Maru fired at enemy guns
xAK Matsue Maru fired at enemy guns
xAK Venice Maru fired at enemy guns

Afternoon Air attack on Wake Island , at 136,98
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet *


Afternoon Air attack on Wake Island , at 136,98

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet *

Afternoon Air attack on Wake Island , at 136,98
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 48

No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet *

Ground combat at Wake Island (136,98)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 432 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1
Defending force 782 troops, 45 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 9
Japanese adjusted assault: 2
Allied adjusted defense: 1
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Wake Island !!!
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 3 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
759 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 92 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 25 (25 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
1st Maizuru Assault/ Div /1

Defending units:
Wake USN CPNAB
1st Marine Defense Battalion

[moore4807]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
You should have plenty of range from Kota Bharu, which is something like 8 hexes. Use 100 Sallys and an Oscar Daitai or two. Sweep Singapore with Zeros until you are satisfied the Allies aren't capping it. But always escort the bombers just in case they reappear.

Sounds really good to me.

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
If you don't have enough air support, you can temporarily run missions short, and move Av support over from Kompong Trach, which is only 2 days sail.

I'm not familiar with the local vernacular.......what is it you do when you "run missions short"? Use only a few planes?

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
You need to bomb Singapore daily to stop him from foritfying it

I did not know that. Cool. I'll have to move some planes around to make it happen but I'm thinking it's doable. Thanks Q-Ball dude. And for your information mr. moore dude....you're the one who wanted both sides represented in this AAR and if I was doing my separate AAR Q-Ball could have made his suggestion in IT and you wouldn't have known. LOL. Actually, to be fair I guess the next suggestion should help out the Allies. I've got a suggestion: start fortifing Darwin 'cause I'm headed that way.

Larry,
I think he means you can fly planes from bases where you don't have air support units (JNAF) yet. As long as you have supply there is a limited number of planes will fly from the base without "air support". He's saying it will only take 2 days to sail the air support units from Kompong Trach (once loaded and then the unload from your ships).

Q-Ball pointed out exactly what I was doing at Singers (loading up supplies/fuel and fortifying like crazy) for the coming attack... Thats why I was dropping hints to come overland, because that will take an extra week (insert subliminal messaging...LOL).

Its all good otherwise - I like this better so far and with over 1400 hits - somebody is reading our rookie (mis)adventures!

[moore4807]

I just got to the Dec 20th 41 After Action Reports... and guess whats in it?

Morning Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 50,84

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 30
G4M1 Betty x 14


Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 32


Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CL Ceres
PG Herald
xAK Jalajaran



Aircraft Attacking:
18 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
10 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.21 Sqn RAAF with Buffalo I (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
No.243 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
No.488 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes

Kuantan continues to get hammered... [:'(][:'(][:'(]

Morning Air attack on Kuantan , at 51,79
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 12
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 49



Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 damaged
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed on ground



Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb

[moore4807]

And Larry says I'M the one busy with my subs??? [:)][:D][:)]

P.S. I'm all caught up now - are we still holding back seven days for OPSEC? Just curious as I'm doing the same and storing my highlights.[:)]


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 20, 41
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ASW attack near Brisbane at 97,161

Japanese Ships
SS I-10

Allied Ships
CL Leander, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

SS I-10 launches 6 torpedoes at CL Leander
Sub escapes detection


Submarine attack near Port Moresby at 98,130

Japanese Ships
SS RO-65

Allied Ships
xAP Macdhui

xAP Macdhui is sighted by SS RO-65
SS RO-65 launches 2 torpedoes at xAP Macdhui

Submarine attack near Port Moresby at 98,130

Japanese Ships
SS RO-65

Allied Ships
xAP Sarpedonia, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

xAP Sarpedonia is sighted by SS RO-65
SS RO-65 attacking xAP Sarpedonia on the surface

TF 364 encounters mine field at Singkawang (56,88)[:D][:D][:D]

Japanese Ships
DMS W-4

1 mine cleared

Submarine attack near San Francisco at 216,70

Japanese Ships
SS I-7

Allied Ships
xAK Alaskan

SS I-7 is sighted by xAK Alaskan
SS I-7 launches 2 torpedoes


Submarine attack near Eureka at 212,66

Japanese Ships
SS I-15

Allied Ships
xAK Arkansan, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

xAK Arkansan is sighted by SS I-15
SS I-15 launches 4 torpedoes

Submarine attack near San Francisco at 216,71

Japanese Ships
SS I-5

Allied Ships
xAK Susan Luckenbach, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

xAK Susan Luckenbach is sighted by SS I-5
SS I-5 launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Susan Luckenbach

Submarine attack near Soerabaja at 56,103

Japanese Ships
SS I-154

Allied Ships
xAKL Siberoet

xAKL Siberoet is sighted by SS I-154
Captain of SS I-154 elects not to launch torpedoes at this target

Submarine attack near Soerabaja at 56,103

Japanese Ships
SS I-154

Allied Ships
xAKL Lematang, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

xAKL Lematang is sighted by SS I-154
SS I-154 attacking xAKL Lematang on the surface

ASW attack near Quinhon at 67,70

Japanese Ships
PB Taiko Maru

Allied Ships
SS O20

SS O20 is located by PB Taiko Maru
O20 diving deep ....
PB Taiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Taiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Taiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Taiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Taiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


Submarine attack near Wake Island at 136,98

Japanese Ships
xAK Kuraido Maru

Allied Ships
SS

xAK Kuraido Maru is sighted by SS Thresher
SS launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Kuraido Maru

[Q-Ball]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
If you don't have enough air support, you can temporarily run missions short, and move Av support over from Kompong Trach, which is only 2 days sail.

I'm not familiar with the local vernacular.......what is it you do when you "run missions short"? Use only a few planes?

No, meaning I would max out the airbase, even if you are short on AV support. The OSCAR and SALLY have good maintenence ratings, so you'll be fine for a few days provided you start to bring over more AV support later. I would eventually move the Air HQ in Kompong Trach over, that will allow you to really sustain an air campaign.

PS: Larry, you should also grab Sinkawang or Kuching. It may as well be Singkawang. You need that to support a landing on Palembang, which you need to be thinking about ASAP. Move an AIR HQ to the base you capture, and you can fly Betty/Nells with torpedos over the Java Sea. Once that happens, it will be closed to Allied shipping, or at least any shipping that doesn't want to be a target. That will greatly simplify your conquest.

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: moore4807
Larry,
I think he means you can fly planes from bases where you don't have air support units (JNAF) yet. As long as you have supply there is a limited number of planes will fly from the base without "air support". He's saying it will only take 2 days to sail the air support units from Kompong Trach (once loaded and then the unload from your ships).

Oh, wow. I REALLY didn't realize this. Coolness. I'm starting to see the light.

ORIGINAL: moore4807
Q-Ball pointed out exactly what I was doing at Singers (loading up supplies/fuel and fortifying like crazy) for the coming attack... Thats why I was dropping hints to come overland, because that will take an extra week (insert subliminal messaging...LOL).

I completely missed your hints to come overland dude. I'm a little more dense than the ordinary garden variety tomato.

ORIGINAL: moore4807
Its all good otherwise - I like this better so far and with over 1400 hits - somebody is reading our rookie (mis)adventures!

If you're happy I'm happy. I really like not being the only one to post stuff in an AAR. My Rob game adventure's AAR is like, just me posting stuff. Except for some of the more curious lot. Like me and you I'm guessing.

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
No, meaning I would max out the airbase, even if you are short on AV support.

Oh..............okay. Yeah, I can do that. See, this is why I'm still a rookie, I'd no idea I should do that. Thanks muchly.

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
The OSCAR and SALLY have good maintenence ratings, so you'll be fine for a few days provided you start to bring over more AV support later. I would eventually move the Air HQ in Kompong Trach over, that will allow you to really sustain an air campaign.

I think I might be able to arrange for some AF units, two or three. And an Air HQ unit would be nice too you say.....alrighty then I say let's make it happen. Lemme look around for a good one. Thanks. Man, this AAR is a blast Moore dude.

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
PS: Larry, you should also grab Sinkawang or Kuching.

I was thinking of Singkawang myself just last night. Yeah, I dream this stuff too. It's' pretty cool, playing it out in your head somewhat.

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
It may as well be Singkawang. You need that to support a landing on Palembang, which you need to be thinking about ASAP. Move an AIR HQ to the base you capture, and you can fly Betty/Nells with torpedos over the Java Sea. Once that happens, it will be closed to Allied shipping, or at least any shipping that doesn't want to be a target. That will greatly simplify your conquest.

I understand Pallembang to be one of the more important targets in this game. Kind of like how important Darwin is on the right side of the map. Or moreso.It's got the oil and resources and other goodies that are must have for a Jap player.

[larryfulkerson]

...you can fly Betty/Nells with torpedos over the Java Sea. Once that happens, it will be closed to Allied shipping, or at least any shipping that doesn't want to be a target. That will greatly simplify your conquest.

As a matter of fact I do have some Nells parked there ( Singkawang ) in my game with Rob. Great minds sometimes run in the same circles. LOL.

[moore4807]

Larry - sounds good post away and I'll try to keep up... we probably should post the date as a header to keep track - even I was getting confused about what happened on which date...but then I'm confused most of the time about...[:o][:o][:o] Never Mind![:D]

[larryfulkerson]

Hey Reader dudes: Jim and I did some PM's that helped me see what Jim and I should be doing all along.....just ignore the OPSEC rules and have fun. It's just a game. So I'm going to post all the stored up AAR snippets I have and Jim is going to do some posting of his stuff from the same time period and we're going to just lay it all out there for you to see. Ready Jim?

[larryfulkerson]

Here's the Tracker Alerts for the 21st of Dec for the Jap side:

[larryfulkerson]

Patiently waiting off Brisbane's port finally paid off.

[larryfulkerson]

It's now too late for Japan to grab Port Moresby while it's empty.

[larryfulkerson]

I finally nailed somebody leaving SFO.