THE THREAD!!!

[Nikademus]

want one....but i'll have to settle for serving wood.

[:D]

[BrucePowers]

ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: BrucePowers

ORIGINAL: Apollo11



Bricks'r'us? [;)]

According to the National Park Service, there are 16 million bricks in Fort Jefferson.

What protection (if any) wold bricks provide?


Leo "Apollo11"

These forts were designed during the age of round shot, prior to the advent of rifled artillery and shells. The bricks would have held up fairly well. Also the fort had 10" Columbiads and 15" Rodmans. The ship mounted guns would have been 24 and 32 pounders. The 10" columbiads fired 128 pound rounds out to almost 5000 yards. They would have out-ranged the naval guns and were mounted on land.

[Dixie]

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Hi guys. I see this place has changed little. [:D]

Change is bad.

[DuckofTindalos]

Welp, burn in hell Jerry Sandusky, you piece of shit.

[Grollub]

Good morning friends.

[Treetop64]

ORIGINAL: Dixie

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Hi guys. I see this place has changed little. [:D]

Change is bad.

There's an old sea story in the Navy about a ship's captain who inspected his sailors, and afterward told the chief boson's mate that his men smelled bad.

The captain suggested perhaps it would help if the sailors would change their underwear occasionally.

The chief responded, "Aye, aye sir, I'll see to it immediately!"

The chief went straight to the sailors berth deck and announced, "The captain thinks you guys smell bad and wants you to change your underwear. "Pittman, you change with Jones; McCarthy, you change with Witkowski; and Brown, you change with Schultz. Now get to it!!!

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

Good day!


Leo "Apollo11"

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: BrucePowers

ORIGINAL: Apollo11

ORIGINAL: BrucePowers



According to the National Park Service, there are 16 million bricks in Fort Jefferson.

What protection (if any) wold bricks provide?

These forts were designed during the age of round shot, prior to the advent of rifled artillery and shells. The bricks would have held up fairly well. Also the fort had 10" Columbiads and 15" Rodmans. The ship mounted guns would have been 24 and 32 pounders. The 10" columbiads fired 128 pound rounds out to almost 5000 yards. They would have out-ranged the naval guns and were mounted on land.

OK!

BTW, in Europe in the time past 18th century the fort walls were made at "angles" (i.e. star shaped and such) - was this the case here as well?


Leo "Apollo11"

[USSAmerica]

Good morning - Tithe. [&o][&o][&o]

[JWE]

ORIGINAL: BrucePowers
Ok Smart aleck[:D]. What was the purpose of this structure?

Can't believe nobody got it yet. That's where they heated the shot.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: JWE

ORIGINAL: BrucePowers
Ok Smart aleck[:D]. What was the purpose of this structure?

Can't believe nobody got it yet. That's where they heated the shot.

Warspite1

See post 7242

[BrucePowers]

ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: BrucePowers

ORIGINAL: Apollo11



What protection (if any) wold bricks provide?

These forts were designed during the age of round shot, prior to the advent of rifled artillery and shells. The bricks would have held up fairly well. Also the fort had 10" Columbiads and 15" Rodmans. The ship mounted guns would have been 24 and 32 pounders. The 10" columbiads fired 128 pound rounds out to almost 5000 yards. They would have out-ranged the naval guns and were mounted on land.

OK!

BTW, in Europe in the time past 18th century the fort walls were made at "angles" (i.e. star shaped and such) - was this the case here as well?


Leo "Apollo11"

Yes.

[JWE]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: JWE

ORIGINAL: BrucePowers
Ok Smart aleck[:D]. What was the purpose of this structure?

Can't believe nobody got it yet. That's where they heated the shot.

Warspite1
See post 7242

Aaarggh! that was 28 posts ago. You actually expect people to read all this stuff?? Woof !! [8D]

[BrucePowers]

Well no. Actually I don't[:D][8D]

[Don Bowen]

My lips got tired just reading this page.

[JWE]

ORIGINAL: BrucePowers

ORIGINAL: Apollo11

ORIGINAL: BrucePowers

These forts were designed during the age of round shot, prior to the advent of rifled artillery and shells. The bricks would have held up fairly well. Also the fort had 10" Columbiads and 15" Rodmans. The ship mounted guns would have been 24 and 32 pounders. The 10" columbiads fired 128 pound rounds out to almost 5000 yards. They would have out-ranged the naval guns and were mounted on land.

OK!
BTW, in Europe in the time past 18th century the fort walls were made at "angles" (i.e. star shaped and such) - was this the case here as well?
Leo "Apollo11"

Yes.

The Vauban star pattern European forts were set up to define flanking and cross fire against folks trying to assault the works. Kinda different thing for harbor defenses. Most were just big blocks of brick. But 6 feet of brick was a skoosh better that 2 feet of oak, so ...

The deal with harbor forts was the gunners (ok, I'm assuming a modicum of smarts, here) had range marks, and range tables, and a stable gun platform, and could 'relatively' repeatably shoot 'accurately' at a target. At least that was the theory. For the most part it worked. Sumter was operational till almost the very end.

It wasn't till the US Civil War era that harbor forts became marginalized. Naval weapons became more powerful and their platforms became more locally maneuverable. A real bitch for a gunner; a lot harder to hit, and the counter-battery tends to hurt. Soon as somebody figured out this thing called penetration, and put some beefy Naval Rifles on a warship, that was pretty much the end of the Brick-and-Mortar Harbor Defense Fort.

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

Zssssssssss time... [>:][>:][>:]


Leo "Apollo11"

[BrucePowers]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen


My lips got tired just reading this page.

[:D][:D]

[BrucePowers]

ORIGINAL: JWE

The Vauban star pattern European forts were set up to define flanking and cross fire against folks trying to assault the works. Kinda different thing for harbor defenses. Most were just big blocks of brick. But 6 feet of brick was a skoosh better that 2 feet of oak, so ...

The deal with harbor forts was the gunners (ok, I'm assuming a modicum of smarts, here) had range marks, and range tables, and a stable gun platform, and could 'relatively' repeatably shoot 'accurately' at a target. At least that was the theory. For the most part it worked. Sumter was operational till almost the very end.

It wasn't till the US Civil War era that harbor forts became marginalized. Naval weapons became more powerful and their platforms became more locally maneuverable. A real bitch for a gunner; a lot harder to hit, and the counter-battery tends to hurt. Soon as somebody figured out this thing called penetration, and put some beefy Naval Rifles on a warship, that was pretty much the end of the Brick-and-Mortar Harbor Defense Fort.

Quite True

[BrucePowers]

The bastions on the ends of each wall in the US harbor forts had howitzers to provide flanking fire if the walls were being assaulted.