[:D][:D] Ditto, Greyjoy!
For readers not familiar with PzJH, he uses a striking picture of Natalie Portman as his avatar.
That doesn't mean CR is wrong about the port attack though!
War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
It made me think of Laugh-in's "Hippie-dippie weatherman with the hippie-dippie weather, man."ORIGINAL: Cribtop
Dan, say your last post with a Shaggie from Scooby Doo accent. Try it. You'll laugh for hours. [;)]
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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
2/8/42
I half expected my "it'll be a port, man!" comment to be preiscient (spelling?) and to find the KB raining terror upon Pearl Harbor today. But the turn was delightfully quiet.
NoPac: Lots more SigInt about units bound for Cold Bay and Juneau etc., but quite up here today. I did shift some shipping around and begin to draw down the numbers in the souther ports as I begin to contemplate the likelihood of a Japanese move against Oz.
CenPac: Another damaged BB departs Pearl tonight, most likely making for East Coast, though I might divert her to Los Angeles if it becomes clear that the KB isn't around.
Oz: Japan took Daly Waters and is landing at Derby. I should be able to buy 27th/B Div. and ship it to Melbourne via Queen Mary in no more than another two days. Five or six fighter squadrons are enroute to Adelaide from Capetown, with five or six already in place. Oz is not naked. If it becomes clear that India might be the target, I have a few weeks to divert.
Indian Ocean: Quiet.
China: Two IJA divisions are heading the long way around towards the cities behind Sian. They have a LONG way to go and I have plenty of time and interior lines to shift to meet that threat. It won't develop for at least a month, maybe two, and I have mountains terrrain in that area, so I don't see what Steve is doing.
I half expected my "it'll be a port, man!" comment to be preiscient (spelling?) and to find the KB raining terror upon Pearl Harbor today. But the turn was delightfully quiet.
NoPac: Lots more SigInt about units bound for Cold Bay and Juneau etc., but quite up here today. I did shift some shipping around and begin to draw down the numbers in the souther ports as I begin to contemplate the likelihood of a Japanese move against Oz.
CenPac: Another damaged BB departs Pearl tonight, most likely making for East Coast, though I might divert her to Los Angeles if it becomes clear that the KB isn't around.
Oz: Japan took Daly Waters and is landing at Derby. I should be able to buy 27th/B Div. and ship it to Melbourne via Queen Mary in no more than another two days. Five or six fighter squadrons are enroute to Adelaide from Capetown, with five or six already in place. Oz is not naked. If it becomes clear that India might be the target, I have a few weeks to divert.
Indian Ocean: Quiet.
China: Two IJA divisions are heading the long way around towards the cities behind Sian. They have a LONG way to go and I have plenty of time and interior lines to shift to meet that threat. It won't develop for at least a month, maybe two, and I have mountains terrrain in that area, so I don't see what Steve is doing.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
Where To?: So where does the Japanese Army go now? My money is on Oz. China is my second guess. India is a relatively remote longshot. I consider Hawaii and West Coast highly improbable.
Burma: A small IJA unit took Schwebo, cutting the route of retreat for a bunch of small Allied units, though I'm not concerned yet. Steve doesn't have much and the Allies will stick and fight as best they can and, if necessary, try to melt into the jungle.
Some of those units could be going to Burma. A tried and tested strategy is to sucker the Allied player into not expecting that not very much will happen here.
In my opinion Burma is of vital importance to Japan, both as a springboard into India, and also as a prime defensive line. The one thing that that is driving me in my present campaign, is to drive the oilwells in Burma out of strategic bomber range from India by the Allies.
Australia is a dead end for the Japanese.
If your opponent starts to extend his grip southwards via Fiji, Samoa etc, you can be pretty sure he is attempting to strangle Australia by other means.
If those units start turning up in Burma, you could have the fight of your life on your hands!![X(]
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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
JocMeister, I'm not sure from your question if you are trying to draw supplies into China down the Burma Trail and having problems with it or not, but based on the assumption that you are experiencing problems, I'd say this:
In my current game (at May 2, '42), I still have the Trail open and have had great success drawing supplies out of Burma into cemtal and southern China. It has paid dividends in enabling the Chinese to rebuild units faster and to accumulate supplies fo r more attacks than normal. However, I will tell you it takes some patience (or a player better than me that really knows how to use those supply draw toggle switches). If you start by drawing supply out of Rangoon, thru Mandalay, into far south China, you will see a slow accumulation of supply sort of pipelining to the north as you manage the supply draw to the next base. At this point, I have drawn a LOT of supply all the way to Ichang and Changsha. The only place (I still hold) I have not figured out how to get supply to via this method is Kukong.
You can enhance the process by flying supply in from Ledo to Parsan CH (sp?) or even deeper into China.
Off course, doing this to a major extent requires a steady flow of supply into Rangoon by sea.
But, if you are trying this supply draw method, be patient as it takes a couple of months for it to begin to really show up as major infusions of supply in Chinese bases.
In my current game (at May 2, '42), I still have the Trail open and have had great success drawing supplies out of Burma into cemtal and southern China. It has paid dividends in enabling the Chinese to rebuild units faster and to accumulate supplies fo r more attacks than normal. However, I will tell you it takes some patience (or a player better than me that really knows how to use those supply draw toggle switches). If you start by drawing supply out of Rangoon, thru Mandalay, into far south China, you will see a slow accumulation of supply sort of pipelining to the north as you manage the supply draw to the next base. At this point, I have drawn a LOT of supply all the way to Ichang and Changsha. The only place (I still hold) I have not figured out how to get supply to via this method is Kukong.
You can enhance the process by flying supply in from Ledo to Parsan CH (sp?) or even deeper into China.
Off course, doing this to a major extent requires a steady flow of supply into Rangoon by sea.
But, if you are trying this supply draw method, be patient as it takes a couple of months for it to begin to really show up as major infusions of supply in Chinese bases.
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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
PH is away this week, so I have one turn in the in box to tide me over through Saturday. In the interim, I will go through all the accumuled SigInt reports to glean what I can. I should have done so turn by turn, but the situation in the game allowed me some latitude to postpone that until Clark Field fell. Here's some of the things I'll be looking for and my general inclinations:
China: We have at least two IJA divisions moving aruond the far north perimeter, plus other units sighted in the Vietnamese jungle coming from the south. I am nearly positive the Steve plans a big play in China. I'll know more when I see what he does with those eight divisions at Clark Field.
NoPac: Steve is committing units to NoPac, possibly to prepare for a strategic bombing campaign, but possibly just as a feint. The Allies have already sent away the two carriers that had served as a strategic reserve and also just withdrew four or five fighter squadrons to conserve PP that will be needed to defend Oz or India. The decision to do these two things suggests that I'm increasingly inclined to the opinoin that NoPac is an IJ deception. I do have enough fighters to handle this very-slow-in-developing threat should it ever materialize. Before he can mount a credible threat, Steve has to take Coal Harbor and possibly or probably either or both of Victoria and Prince Rupert. I'll be looking for signs of aggression or commitment of major infantry units that might indicate such a move or moves is imminent.
CenPac: I have not dismissed the possibilty of a Japanese invasion of Hawaii - so I'm trying to get my damaged BBs out of Pearl and somewhere safe as soon as possible.
Oz: I think Steve will come here in a major way. I'll be watching for evidence that he's ready to commit division-sized units.
India: If most of the Clark Field IJA divisions head somewhere south, east or north, there is no longer any threat posed to India. That would free up Allied assets to handle the Burma frontier and Oz. The Allies will also try, if possible, to preserve their hold on key islands in the Indian Ocean. If India is free of serious threat, two American infantry regiments at Capetown can be sent to Oz, or to Cocos Island and Oz.
China: We have at least two IJA divisions moving aruond the far north perimeter, plus other units sighted in the Vietnamese jungle coming from the south. I am nearly positive the Steve plans a big play in China. I'll know more when I see what he does with those eight divisions at Clark Field.
NoPac: Steve is committing units to NoPac, possibly to prepare for a strategic bombing campaign, but possibly just as a feint. The Allies have already sent away the two carriers that had served as a strategic reserve and also just withdrew four or five fighter squadrons to conserve PP that will be needed to defend Oz or India. The decision to do these two things suggests that I'm increasingly inclined to the opinoin that NoPac is an IJ deception. I do have enough fighters to handle this very-slow-in-developing threat should it ever materialize. Before he can mount a credible threat, Steve has to take Coal Harbor and possibly or probably either or both of Victoria and Prince Rupert. I'll be looking for signs of aggression or commitment of major infantry units that might indicate such a move or moves is imminent.
CenPac: I have not dismissed the possibilty of a Japanese invasion of Hawaii - so I'm trying to get my damaged BBs out of Pearl and somewhere safe as soon as possible.
Oz: I think Steve will come here in a major way. I'll be watching for evidence that he's ready to commit division-sized units.
India: If most of the Clark Field IJA divisions head somewhere south, east or north, there is no longer any threat posed to India. That would free up Allied assets to handle the Burma frontier and Oz. The Allies will also try, if possible, to preserve their hold on key islands in the Indian Ocean. If India is free of serious threat, two American infantry regiments at Capetown can be sent to Oz, or to Cocos Island and Oz.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Canoe, just a thought, but why leave the US regiments in Capetown? Would it not be better to deploy them to India or Ceylon immediately? If he does come toward India, the KB will make deploying these units to a useful on map position very hazardous if they remain in Capetown. Further, if he does not come that way, those regiments will be much closer to any threatened location and available for possible redeployment much faster.
I agree that the tell will be where those 8 Div (or at least the majority of them) go from the Philipines. I do hope your now more effective subs are off Manila Bay and other Luzon ports of extraction, ready to extract a high toll when they sail. Good hunting and good luck.
Very interesting game as usual.
I agree that the tell will be where those 8 Div (or at least the majority of them) go from the Philipines. I do hope your now more effective subs are off Manila Bay and other Luzon ports of extraction, ready to extract a high toll when they sail. Good hunting and good luck.
Very interesting game as usual.
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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
I have quite a few subs around Manila Bay, but I also have them at a variety of other critical choke points, so it's not like I've emplaced a massive wolfpack.
The regiments are at Capetown because they are still restricted. I need PP to buy them, but they are pretty expensive (600 PP each). So first I'm planning to buy out 27th Div/B and 27th Div/C (at Lost Angeles) as they are more affordable.
The regiments are at Capetown because they are still restricted. I need PP to buy them, but they are pretty expensive (600 PP each). So first I'm planning to buy out 27th Div/B and 27th Div/C (at Lost Angeles) as they are more affordable.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
2/9/42
NoPac: IJA 2nd Division arrives at Anchorage. The ensuing shock attack only gets 1:1 vs. a badly-outnumbered and low-on-supply American garrison. The Japanese lose heavily disproportionate casualties. This is an intersting development, but my hunch is that Steve has had his fill and more with NoPac tough-to-crack garrisons. I still think this is a feint.
DEI: IJ landing at Siberoet Island, off the southwestern coast of Sumatra. This is interesting too. This is one of the places that would permit and enhance a move on India.
China: I think I'm beginning to see how Steve wants to handle China. It's too complicated to get into, but I think it involves trying to trap a sizeable part of the Chiense army in the forests east of Sian while he perhaps takes a more southernly route to threaten Ankang. I"ll have to weight between retiring to keep the bulk of my army between him and Chungking or, instead, coming behind him and threatening to cut off his own army. Sometime in the next month or so, I expect to see some of his Clark Field army thrown into the mix.
NoPac: IJA 2nd Division arrives at Anchorage. The ensuing shock attack only gets 1:1 vs. a badly-outnumbered and low-on-supply American garrison. The Japanese lose heavily disproportionate casualties. This is an intersting development, but my hunch is that Steve has had his fill and more with NoPac tough-to-crack garrisons. I still think this is a feint.
DEI: IJ landing at Siberoet Island, off the southwestern coast of Sumatra. This is interesting too. This is one of the places that would permit and enhance a move on India.
China: I think I'm beginning to see how Steve wants to handle China. It's too complicated to get into, but I think it involves trying to trap a sizeable part of the Chiense army in the forests east of Sian while he perhaps takes a more southernly route to threaten Ankang. I"ll have to weight between retiring to keep the bulk of my army between him and Chungking or, instead, coming behind him and threatening to cut off his own army. Sometime in the next month or so, I expect to see some of his Clark Field army thrown into the mix.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Canoerebel,
looks like GreyJoy being around once more has immediate influence [8D]
Hartwig
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The regiments are at Capetown because they are still restricted. I need PP to buy them, but they are pretty expensive (600 PP each). So first I'm planning to buy out 27th Div/B and 27th Div/C (at Lost Angeles) as they are more affordable.
looks like GreyJoy being around once more has immediate influence [8D]
Hartwig
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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
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Canoerebel,
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
The regiments are at Capetown because they are still restricted. I need PP to buy them, but they are pretty expensive (600 PP each). So first I'm planning to buy out 27th Div/B and 27th Div/C (at Lost Angeles) as they are more affordable.
looks like GreyJoy being around once more has immediate influence [8D]
Hartwig
[:D] nice catch.
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Actually, Lost Angeles may be a better name for the place. Think of the famous artwork, "Boulevard of Lost Dreams."
[;)]
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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
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Canoerebel,
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
The regiments are at Capetown because they are still restricted. I need PP to buy them, but they are pretty expensive (600 PP each). So first I'm planning to buy out 27th Div/B and 27th Div/C (at Lost Angeles) as they are more affordable.
looks like GreyJoy being around once more has immediate influence [8D]
Hartwig
"Life is tough, it's even tougher when you're stupid" -SGT John M. Stryker, USMC
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
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Canoerebel,
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
The regiments are at Capetown because they are still restricted. I need PP to buy them, but they are pretty expensive (600 PP each). So first I'm planning to buy out 27th Div/B and 27th Div/C (at Lost Angeles) as they are more affordable.
looks like GreyJoy being around once more has immediate influence [8D]
Hartwig
I thought Steve's offensive was just centered around NoPac and now I discover that he even captured LA [:D][:D]
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Canoerebel
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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Maybe me and GreyJoy are actually the same person. I am GJ's sock puppet. [8D]
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
Maybe me and GreyJoy are actually the same person. I am GJ's sock puppet. [8D]
Given all the possible connotations of the term 'sock puppet', I'm not sure that's such a good thing.
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Now thats a mental image that I didn't really need
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Being GJ's sock puppet can be that bad? I don't think so my friends...
I can be sweet as honey or harsh as sandpaper...it depends on the occasions... and, above all, it depends on what you deserve... If you've been a good boy, you're gonna taste the honey juice, if you've been a bad boy...oh, you already know what happens...don't you?
I can be sweet as honey or harsh as sandpaper...it depends on the occasions... and, above all, it depends on what you deserve... If you've been a good boy, you're gonna taste the honey juice, if you've been a bad boy...oh, you already know what happens...don't you?
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Oh jeez, now I'm sorry I brought the topic up. Gotta bring this back to earth.
Hey CR, how's the weather up there in Georgia? It's hot as hell down here in Florida.
Hey CR, how's the weather up there in Georgia? It's hot as hell down here in Florida.