Well, if he comes for SF or LA he's gonna have huge losses (flak and cap) for no gain.... in your position, i would easily exchange a slow BB for a couple of squadron of aces and a lot less crack pre-war jap pilots
That's mostly right, except every AA unit is now in the Pacific northwest. Most of them are massed at Seattle, but Vancouver, Tacoma, Portland and Spokane have some.
well, not counting the fuel he's burning for no apparent real gain....now that i'm studyin jap economy i can see how scarse fuel is even in scenario 2.... you cannot make a trip like that and come back with empty hands....he must sink something!!!!!
Here's the situation further north. There are two things that I'm really watching:
1) I think Steve has to take Coal Harbor if he's going for a strat bombing campaign. He should've already done so, if so. The base now has 200 AV.
2) Alternatively (or in concert) he could land at Prince Rupert and move inland. That would be a long, slow campaign as long as I adequately garrison interior bases to prevent para assault that would allow strategic movement inland for Japan. All bases now have decent garrisons, so I can't imagine Japan would try this gambit.
Attachments
NWPac021242.jpg (165.02 KiB) Viewed 210 times
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
Very interesting turn... West Coast: The KB shows up well to the west of Los Angeles (and southwest of San Fran) and tangle with a sub that misses a shot vs. a destroyer. The KB sinks an xAK. Queen Elizabeth had just clear LA's harbor and is making trakcs well to the SW, so she should be safe. I'd already mostly emptied out the southern West Coast ports weeks ago out of concern about a raid, but BB Idaho is at San Fran and BB Warspite is in the yards at LA. The ships remaining in LA and SD will flee south. LA and SF both have roughly 150 fighters, though quality isn't particularly great.
Send in Capt Wild Bill Kelso. That'll stop them.
What is the fighter mix on the West Coast? Still crappy pre-war stuff or do you have some of the P-38 training squadrons already?
Ack ack ack ack ack!
Life is tough. The sooner you realize that, the easier it will be.
Curious. Where is Coal Harbor in relationship to the LOD line? It's close, he may be leary of crossing a line not well defined. I know I would be.
Coal Harbor is at the northwest tip of the island off of Vancouver. None of the Canadian bases are across the LOD, so he's safe assaulting even Vancouver or Calgary or Edmonton if he wanted to. I guarantee you that he knows exactly where the LOD is and has considered umpteen zillion different strategies that take every factor into account. But if he's really planning either a Canadian invasion or a strat bombing campaign against the USA, it's very, very slow in developing. He should have moved with alactrity while the US was at maximum weakness. Already, the US is considerably better prepared for either possibility.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
I think that was the name of my favorite 80's band
Today I come bearing an olive branch in one hand, and the freedom fighter's gun in the other. Do not let the olive branch fall from my hand. I repeat, do not let the olive branch fall from my hand. - Yasser Arafat Speech to UN General Assembly
I am open to the possibility that Steve might have flip-flopped his carriers, moving Mini-KB from the DEI to NoPac and the KB from NoPac to somewhere else, but my instinct (based on the feel for a game a player develops after seeing his opponent work and juding by the countless little details you pick up on) tells me the KB is in NoPac. I think that's the KB sitting off the West Coast. I also think it's a bit of a diversion time to get his LBA raids underway. Whether that second hunch is right shall be answered tomorrow.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
no chance to move inland from Prince Rupert, just too bad terrain for the enemy and only 2 of your divs railed up there would stop the whole IJA. While I don't think this whole IJ operation makes any sense at all, PH would not be smart if he lands anywhere where you could move in via rail or road. If he takes bases you can only amphib assault he is safe but those you can reach by marching in should be a no go.
There is nothing wrong with Japan's strategy in this game. In a couple of areas, tactically Japan has not finessed perfectly but that doesn't invalidate the strategy.
I've said before that Canoerebel's opponent believes he belongs to the Nemo school. Do any of you really believe that if Nemo were the opponent, that Japan's moves to date would be only to commence a strategic air bombing campaign or a march inland from Port Rupert? Nemo's strategy with these operational moves in NorPac/West Coast (let alone the moves elsewhere) would be the implementation of a much more layered strategic plan.
To paraphrase the Barb, there is more in heaven and earth than is dreamt of in your philosophy. Whether PH is the equal of Nemo, that indeed is the question.
I forgot to mention that one of the "small, nuanced clues I picked up that this is the KB - the kind of clues only a player carefully dialed in to the ebb and flow of the game and adept at reading his oppoent's subtleties," is the fact that the TF includes BB Kirishima and CA Suzuya.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
There is nothing wrong with Japan's strategy in this game. In a couple of areas, tactically Japan has not finessed perfectly but that doesn't invalidate the strategy.
I've said before that Canoerebel's opponent believes he belongs to the Nemo school. Do any of you really believe that if Nemo were the opponent, that Japan's moves to date would be only to commence a strategic air bombing campaign or a march inland from Port Rupert? Nemo's strategy with these operational moves in NorPac/West Coast (let alone the moves elsewhere) would be the implementation of a much more layered strategic plan.
To paraphrase the Barb, there is more in heaven and earth than is dreamt of in your philosophy. Whether PH is the equal of Nemo, that indeed is the question.
Alfred
Nemo, Shmemo. [:'(][:)]
To quote a lesser bard-like creature, Cervantes, and others before him, "the proof of the pudding is in the eating". If this is some massive jimmy-leg to induce CR to withold resources from Australia and the South Pacific or Hawaii, resulting in a catastrophe there, then I will be impressed, otherwise it will have been a very diverting strategic error, resulting in the capture of some frozen volcanoes and entertainment for the monkey cage visitors.
forgot to mention that one of the "small, nuanced clues I picked up that this is the KB - the kind of clues only a player carefully dialed in to the ebb and flow of the game and adept at reading his oppoent's subtleties," is the fact that the TF includes BB Kirishima and CA Suzuya.
Not to mention a mouseover showing 68 fighters and 125 bombers. [;)]
Several weeks ago, I mentioned that I thought NoPac and West Coast were diversions. Although I cannot dismiss the possibilty of strategic bombing or even an invasion, I've long been convinced that Oz was the most likely strategic target. Proof in the pudding (as Cap says): 27th/B Div. just left LA for Melbourne, Sara and York have moved south to be in supporting range, and five or six USAAF fighter squadrons will be arriving at Adelaide after a very long journey from East Coast via Capetown. Oz also has 18th UK Div. and an Aussie division is aboard transports sitting south of Cocos, waiting for things to clear a bit so that I can decide between Oz and India.
Now, Hawaii is another matter entirely. I"m leaving her out to dry - I've even stripped most of her fighters to reinforce West Coast (all eight squadrons safely arrived some time ago). I don't think Hawaii is critical to Allied survival in a game. Oz and India have to get priority.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
North America: The KB slides closer to west coast, taking position just six hexes WSW of San Louis Obispo (and seven SW of San Fran). Mouseover shoes 66 fighters, 133 bombers, 36 aux. Steve has also flooded LA and SD with subs - I count at least six, one of which sank a small xAP fleeing to the south. One logical possibility is that Steve is isolating Hawaii in preparation for an invasion. There was no LBA attack against northwestern USA industrial targets and recon shows only a handful of IJ aircraft at Alliford Bay.
Pacific: CL Helena tangles with CAs Kako and Aoba at Shortlands. One USN DD may sink, but I think the Allies got the better of the confrontation, with both IJN cruisers probably needing a bit of time in the yeards. Ent and York are between Christmas Island and Tahiti. I'll probably hold them there until I get a better feel for what's happening around Hawaii and West Coast (and any potential threat to Oz).
Australia: A small IJN DD force sinks a few coastal vessels around Carnavon. A small USN DD force finds and sinks one of the enemy destroyers. CA Australia just missed out on intercepting.
Burma: Magwe falls, drat it.
China: Still not sure of the enemy's major vector of attack. It might be out of Ichang towards Chengte or it might be towards Ankang, the base in the forests south of Sian. The Chinese can react to either or any of a number of other possibilities.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
