
Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Q-Ball (A)
Moderators: wdolson, MOD_War-in-the-Pacific-Admirals-Edition
RE: Let's start!
Your early KB raid on NE Oz is the first move that he was not ready for in this game. Good One!
He will indeed miss those xAKs. This scenario includes reduced cargo capacity, right?? Others playing with that restriction have mentioned how even the Allies struggle to move supply and troops at the outset of the game. He likely lost a month's worth of Sydney supply production.
He will indeed miss those xAKs. This scenario includes reduced cargo capacity, right?? Others playing with that restriction have mentioned how even the Allies struggle to move supply and troops at the outset of the game. He likely lost a month's worth of Sydney supply production.
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RE: Let's start!
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Your early KB raid on NE Oz is the first move that he was not ready for in this game. Good One!
He will indeed miss those xAKs. This scenario includes reduced cargo capacity, right?? Others playing with that restriction have mentioned how even the Allies struggle to move supply and troops at the outset of the game. He likely lost a month's worth of Sydney supply production.
Thanks mate! No, this one is without cargo limitation...
However it feels good to finally bag some of his ships (i've lost more transport than him during these first weeks[&:])
The good news of the day is that Palembang falls in japs' hands completely intact![:)]
The allies evacuated every plane from there and didn't even try to come into action with his surface assets
In Malaya things are going well, and in China we've pushed a chinese corp that was guarding the woods east of Changsha. Now we'll try to enter into the city with 2 divisions, hoping to stop the supply production there and lay the siege.
Mavis are moving to cover the area around Java...it seems that his SCTFs have completely vanished...probably back in India or in nortthern Oz...
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 29, 41
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Submarine attack near Muntok at 50,89
Japanese Ships
xAK Syoto Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS Swordfish, hits 1
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TF 183 encounters mine field at Palembang (48,91) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DMS Uruko, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DMS W-20, Shell hits 1
DMS W-14, Shell hits 3, on fire
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Submarine attack near Muntok at 51,89
Japanese Ships
xAK Neikai Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS KXVIII
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Sub attack near Port Moresby at 97,131
Japanese Ships
SS I-159
Allied Ships
xAKL Pulganbar, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS I-159 attacking on the surface
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Ground combat at 83,52 (near Changsha)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 25352 troops, 204 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 792
Defending force 8120 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 178
Japanese adjusted assault: 600
Allied adjusted defense: 39
Japanese assault odds: 15 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
402 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 38 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Allied ground losses:
4228 casualties reported
Squads: 97 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 170 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Units retreated 1
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
6th Division
40th Division
Defending units:
20th Chinese Corps
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Ground combat at Canton (77,59)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 31231 troops, 316 guns, 79 vehicles, Assault Value = 951
Defending force 17765 troops, 129 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 511
Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Assaulting units:
38th/C Division
67th Ind.Infantry Battalion
104th Division
38th/A Division
20th RGC/A Division
68th Ind.Infantry Battalion
20th RGC/B Division
1st Ind.Inf.Group
20th RGC/C Division
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
1st JAAF AF Coy
47th JAAF AF Bn
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
Canton Special Base Force
21st Mortar Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
23rd Army
2nd JAAF AF Coy
Defending units:
63rd Chinese Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
16th Group Army
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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 18357 troops, 162 guns, 90 vehicles, Assault Value = 545
Defending force 6005 troops, 41 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 123
Japanese adjusted assault: 239
Allied adjusted defense: 58
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Palembang !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
547 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 56 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Allied ground losses:
3142 casualties reported
Squads: 44 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 154 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 23 (21 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 5
Units destroyed 1
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
6th Tank Regiment
Yokosuka 4th SNLF
Sasebo 3rd SNLF
Sasebo 8th SNLF
III/124th Infantry Battalion
Yokosuka 2nd SNLF
41st Guard Battalion
14th Guards Regiment
2nd Naval Construction Battalion
4th Field Construction Battalion
18th JNAF AF Unit
4th JAAF AF Bn
1st Ship Engineer Regiment
97th JAAF AF Bn
Defending units:
Marinier Battalion
Zuid KNIL Battalion
Riouw KNIL Battalion
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
224 Group RAF
Palembang ML Base Force
The only loss that hurts is the loss of pretty much every DMS i had brought...those nasty CD guns have really put a dent into my minesweeping ships...

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RE: Let's start!
There you go! Palembang is a good get, and perhaps has restored player morale a bit. Get Ms. Betty up thru the western DEI now and it will become an Axis lake. Then move on the eastern DEI and you will have yourself a phase I conquest just about complete. Then work on what else, if anything, you want to do.

RE: Let's start!
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 30, 41
Thx Crib! Gotta say that my morale has improved[:D]
Today we delivered another couple of good hits. army bombers took off from Bankok and raided Rangoon harbour, damaging several transports disbanded in port. At the same time KB's kates bombed Brisbane harbour, hitting more transports hidden there.
Daily bombings continue over Singapore, while our armies are marching towards the Empire's gem!
Betties from Singkawang torpedoed a couple of TK stealing fuel from Balikapan, while no enemy major ships are spotted in the whole Java area.
5 more Buffalos are shot down during a escort mission near Batavia (the DEI Air force is really non existent now).
The army that conquered Palembang will now spread all over southern Sumatra, clearing the way from what remains of Sumatra ducth garrisons.
Betties, recon planes and Zeros are ready to be moved from Takao/Japan area towards Mindanao and Rabaul.
A Naval garrison and a base force are ready to be unloaded at marcus, while we're waiting for another base force for Wake.
Naval garrisons are being sent to NOPAC too.
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Submarine attack near San Diego at 225,81
Japanese Ships
SS I-7
Allied Ships
xAP Rangitiki, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
Finally!!![:D]
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 26
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 17
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 17
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
xAK Chilka, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Agnes, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Ellenga, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
xAKL Hermelin, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Mundra, Bomb hits 2, on fire
HDML 1103, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Chaksang, Bomb hits 1
xAK Indira, Bomb hits 1
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1
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Afternoon Air attack on Brisbane , at 96,160
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 49
B5N2 Kate x 109
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged
Allied Ships
DMS Southard, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Yunnan, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Dardanus, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK American, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Coast Farmer, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PG Moresby, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS Long, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAKL Loyaute, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Prusa, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Silksworth, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DMS Dorsey, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
Repair Shipyard hits 1
Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 1
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Ground combat at Temuloh (50,78)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1254 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 43
Defending force 1651 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 38
Japanese adjusted assault: 40
Allied adjusted defense: 10
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Temuloh !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)
Allied ground losses:
2459 casualties reported
Squads: 100 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 101 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 4
Assaulting units:
II./143rd Infantry Battalion
Defending units:
1st Hyderabad Battalion
8th Indian Brigade
FMSV Brigade
3rd ISF Base Force
Thx Crib! Gotta say that my morale has improved[:D]
Today we delivered another couple of good hits. army bombers took off from Bankok and raided Rangoon harbour, damaging several transports disbanded in port. At the same time KB's kates bombed Brisbane harbour, hitting more transports hidden there.
Daily bombings continue over Singapore, while our armies are marching towards the Empire's gem!
Betties from Singkawang torpedoed a couple of TK stealing fuel from Balikapan, while no enemy major ships are spotted in the whole Java area.
5 more Buffalos are shot down during a escort mission near Batavia (the DEI Air force is really non existent now).
The army that conquered Palembang will now spread all over southern Sumatra, clearing the way from what remains of Sumatra ducth garrisons.
Betties, recon planes and Zeros are ready to be moved from Takao/Japan area towards Mindanao and Rabaul.
A Naval garrison and a base force are ready to be unloaded at marcus, while we're waiting for another base force for Wake.
Naval garrisons are being sent to NOPAC too.
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Submarine attack near San Diego at 225,81
Japanese Ships
SS I-7
Allied Ships
xAP Rangitiki, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
Finally!!![:D]
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 26
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 17
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 17
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
xAK Chilka, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Agnes, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Ellenga, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
xAKL Hermelin, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Mundra, Bomb hits 2, on fire
HDML 1103, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Chaksang, Bomb hits 1
xAK Indira, Bomb hits 1
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1
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Afternoon Air attack on Brisbane , at 96,160
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 49
B5N2 Kate x 109
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged
Allied Ships
DMS Southard, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Yunnan, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Dardanus, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK American, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Coast Farmer, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PG Moresby, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS Long, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAKL Loyaute, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Prusa, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Silksworth, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DMS Dorsey, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
Repair Shipyard hits 1
Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 1
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Ground combat at Temuloh (50,78)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1254 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 43
Defending force 1651 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 38
Japanese adjusted assault: 40
Allied adjusted defense: 10
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Temuloh !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)
Allied ground losses:
2459 casualties reported
Squads: 100 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 101 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 4
Assaulting units:
II./143rd Infantry Battalion
Defending units:
1st Hyderabad Battalion
8th Indian Brigade
FMSV Brigade
3rd ISF Base Force
RE: Let's start!
Air HQ unloading at Rabaul. Soon we'll controll the whole area with my Betties+Zeros.
With PM almost evacuated i don't know what to do. I have the south sea detachment and the Guards Regiment, plus another SNLF that were bound for the PM invasion...but i think a single regiment will be enough. What to do with the other units? I could keep them in reserve...but i hate the idea of not exploiting the first months of amphib operations.... I could land in NW Oz...but don't have enough assets to efficiently defend those gains right now.
I'm thinking of a crazy idea.... What about a rapid conquest of PM and then pack up everything and move, along with the KB, directly towards Darwin with two regiments? At the same time 3 SNLF units, along with some base forces could come down from Mindanao-Menado area with the mini-KB and secure Ambon-Kendari.... i'll leave the SOPAC area free for a possible CV raid, but, by that time, i sould have 60 Betties and 30 Zeros at Rabaul...more than enough to prevent an easy approach to my sealanes...
What do you think? I think that an early conquest of Ambon-Kendari-Darwin could speed up the whole process of securing the DEI, helping isolating Java and leaving only the "Perth-Route" for the allies evacuation....
Moreover i'll finally be able to re-unite my CVs in a single strong TF, with baby KB acting as a CAP platform, backed up by the KB
Sounds like a plan?
With PM almost evacuated i don't know what to do. I have the south sea detachment and the Guards Regiment, plus another SNLF that were bound for the PM invasion...but i think a single regiment will be enough. What to do with the other units? I could keep them in reserve...but i hate the idea of not exploiting the first months of amphib operations.... I could land in NW Oz...but don't have enough assets to efficiently defend those gains right now.
I'm thinking of a crazy idea.... What about a rapid conquest of PM and then pack up everything and move, along with the KB, directly towards Darwin with two regiments? At the same time 3 SNLF units, along with some base forces could come down from Mindanao-Menado area with the mini-KB and secure Ambon-Kendari.... i'll leave the SOPAC area free for a possible CV raid, but, by that time, i sould have 60 Betties and 30 Zeros at Rabaul...more than enough to prevent an easy approach to my sealanes...
What do you think? I think that an early conquest of Ambon-Kendari-Darwin could speed up the whole process of securing the DEI, helping isolating Java and leaving only the "Perth-Route" for the allies evacuation....
Moreover i'll finally be able to re-unite my CVs in a single strong TF, with baby KB acting as a CAP platform, backed up by the KB
Sounds like a plan?
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RE: Let's start!
You will want to go down to Tulagi and Lunga area with a SNLF, BF, and Construction units to build up one of those bases. Not necessary to land and build up both right now. I like Tulagi as it has a port already a size 2.
I like to take Port Moresby and Milne Bay and then allow some of your Naval Guards units you get over the next few months go mop up Lae and the other by-passed bases on the east side of New Guinea.
If your want, I would take both Horn Island and Meurake with South Sea Detach and/or Guards Mixed Brigade.
Now, back to the SRA and Ambon. Warning, those CD guns are nasty. [:-] I just brought a single infantry unit there and it wasn't enough to overwhelm the defenders. Land with two infantry regiments or a brigade. You don't want to lose more transports like I did when I had to land another infantry unit there. [:@] You will need some of those slow, old BBs to soak up the CD gun hits and have them in a SC TF to bombard or embedded in the Amphib TF.
Leave Darwin alone for now, but capture Ambon, Kendari, Timor (especially Koepang), Makassar, and then Denpasar. If you have Port Moresby and Horn Island then you close off access to northern Australia and SRA from that direction. When it comes to Timor, I take Lautem and Dali first so the troops at Koepang have no valid base to retreat to. Then, an Air HQ goes to Koepang. I land two small units above Makassar at those bases to cut off any retreat. I like Denpasar as a base to place an Air HQ.
So, before or around the time of the invasion of Java, I have an Air HQ at Tulagi/Lunga (moved south from Rabaul once one of these bases is built up - AF 2 or larger), Port Moresby/Milne Bay, Koepang, Denpasar, Oosthaven/Palembang, Malaya (Georgetown or Alor Star - maybe Victoria Point). So, your initial expansion area is covered by Nell/Betty and any surface ships will have trouble getting through or out. I leave my Nell/Betty on 20% Naval Search to help my limited Mavis/Emily coverage.
Slightly OT - I pulled up this scenario as Japan to see what I would do differently as Japan. I'm playing RA as Japan, but wanted to see if I could be smarter next time as I think I need to send a full division south to Babeldoab and help with that part of the SRA. I forgot about a change in PP expenditures for units under the same parent command. All of the 56th Division, except the 146 Inf Rgt, is pre-loaded in TF 123 at Hiroshima. Those units within TF 123 are assigned to 25th Army. The 146th Inf Rgt is assigned to 16th Army. When you pull up the 146 Infantry to change commands, it shows it will cost 398 PP. When you actually change it, the cost is only 99 PP. [X(][X(] Thus, you can do this plus the Guards Mixed Bde at Tokyo with the 500 PP you have at start.
I would maybe land on Mindanao with the whole 56th Div and divert those loaded at Babeldoab to Mindanao vs southern Luzon. Just a thought here.
I like to take Port Moresby and Milne Bay and then allow some of your Naval Guards units you get over the next few months go mop up Lae and the other by-passed bases on the east side of New Guinea.
If your want, I would take both Horn Island and Meurake with South Sea Detach and/or Guards Mixed Brigade.
Now, back to the SRA and Ambon. Warning, those CD guns are nasty. [:-] I just brought a single infantry unit there and it wasn't enough to overwhelm the defenders. Land with two infantry regiments or a brigade. You don't want to lose more transports like I did when I had to land another infantry unit there. [:@] You will need some of those slow, old BBs to soak up the CD gun hits and have them in a SC TF to bombard or embedded in the Amphib TF.
Leave Darwin alone for now, but capture Ambon, Kendari, Timor (especially Koepang), Makassar, and then Denpasar. If you have Port Moresby and Horn Island then you close off access to northern Australia and SRA from that direction. When it comes to Timor, I take Lautem and Dali first so the troops at Koepang have no valid base to retreat to. Then, an Air HQ goes to Koepang. I land two small units above Makassar at those bases to cut off any retreat. I like Denpasar as a base to place an Air HQ.
So, before or around the time of the invasion of Java, I have an Air HQ at Tulagi/Lunga (moved south from Rabaul once one of these bases is built up - AF 2 or larger), Port Moresby/Milne Bay, Koepang, Denpasar, Oosthaven/Palembang, Malaya (Georgetown or Alor Star - maybe Victoria Point). So, your initial expansion area is covered by Nell/Betty and any surface ships will have trouble getting through or out. I leave my Nell/Betty on 20% Naval Search to help my limited Mavis/Emily coverage.
Slightly OT - I pulled up this scenario as Japan to see what I would do differently as Japan. I'm playing RA as Japan, but wanted to see if I could be smarter next time as I think I need to send a full division south to Babeldoab and help with that part of the SRA. I forgot about a change in PP expenditures for units under the same parent command. All of the 56th Division, except the 146 Inf Rgt, is pre-loaded in TF 123 at Hiroshima. Those units within TF 123 are assigned to 25th Army. The 146th Inf Rgt is assigned to 16th Army. When you pull up the 146 Infantry to change commands, it shows it will cost 398 PP. When you actually change it, the cost is only 99 PP. [X(][X(] Thus, you can do this plus the Guards Mixed Bde at Tokyo with the 500 PP you have at start.
I would maybe land on Mindanao with the whole 56th Div and divert those loaded at Babeldoab to Mindanao vs southern Luzon. Just a thought here.

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RE: Let's start!
Don't you play a mod in which refinaries don't produce supplies? If so, you can starve them out any time later. The only need to rush is, if the opponent can produce supplies in place and sends in everything he can gather.ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
ORIGINAL: aztez
Hmmm.. you really should establish air supremacy first in the region before worrying about Palembang too much.
To me you are rushing things when these things don't need to be done so.
With airsupremacy you control seas around Palembang and he cannot fortify or move extensive troops there safely.
Now you are doing that other way round.. from top to bottom when safer course would be to climb upwards.
mmmm....interesting view....
So you think i should drop the whole Palembang operation for the moment? And maybe land all those units somewhere else? I'm still in time to get rid of the whole operation and change the final destination....
A series of screenshots of the different theatres...
edit:
oops, it is already captured [:D]
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RE: Let's start!
ORIGINAL: ny59giants
You will want to go down to Tulagi and Lunga area with a SNLF, BF, and Construction units to build up one of those bases. Not necessary to land and build up both right now. I like Tulagi as it has a port already a size 2.
I like to take Port Moresby and Milne Bay and then allow some of your Naval Guards units you get over the next few months go mop up Lae and the other by-passed bases on the east side of New Guinea.
If your want, I would take both Horn Island and Meurake with South Sea Detach and/or Guards Mixed Brigade.
Now, back to the SRA and Ambon. Warning, those CD guns are nasty. [:-] I just brought a single infantry unit there and it wasn't enough to overwhelm the defenders. Land with two infantry regiments or a brigade. You don't want to lose more transports like I did when I had to land another infantry unit there. [:@] You will need some of those slow, old BBs to soak up the CD gun hits and have them in a SC TF to bombard or embedded in the Amphib TF.
Leave Darwin alone for now, but capture Ambon, Kendari, Timor (especially Koepang), Makassar, and then Denpasar. If you have Port Moresby and Horn Island then you close off access to northern Australia and SRA from that direction. When it comes to Timor, I take Lautem and Dali first so the troops at Koepang have no valid base to retreat to. Then, an Air HQ goes to Koepang. I land two small units above Makassar at those bases to cut off any retreat. I like Denpasar as a base to place an Air HQ.
So, before or around the time of the invasion of Java, I have an Air HQ at Tulagi/Lunga (moved south from Rabaul once one of these bases is built up - AF 2 or larger), Port Moresby/Milne Bay, Koepang, Denpasar, Oosthaven/Palembang, Malaya (Georgetown or Alor Star - maybe Victoria Point). So, your initial expansion area is covered by Nell/Betty and any surface ships will have trouble getting through or out. I leave my Nell/Betty on 20% Naval Search to help my limited Mavis/Emily coverage.
Slightly OT - I pulled up this scenario as Japan to see what I would do differently as Japan. I'm playing RA as Japan, but wanted to see if I could be smarter next time as I think I need to send a full division south to Babeldoab and help with that part of the SRA. I forgot about a change in PP expenditures for units under the same parent command. All of the 56th Division, except the 146 Inf Rgt, is pre-loaded in TF 123 at Hiroshima. Those units within TF 123 are assigned to 25th Army. The 146th Inf Rgt is assigned to 16th Army. When you pull up the 146 Infantry to change commands, it shows it will cost 398 PP. When you actually change it, the cost is only 99 PP. [X(][X(] Thus, you can do this plus the Guards Mixed Bde at Tokyo with the 500 PP you have at start.
I would maybe land on Mindanao with the whole 56th Div and divert those loaded at Babeldoab to Mindanao vs southern Luzon. Just a thought here.![]()
Great tips Micheal! Thx!
So basically you're saying that, for phase I, i should only concentrate on the historical perimeter, plus closing the door between NE Oz and Sout-East DEI, right?
Very well, it sounds wise and clever. I'll do that.
Tulagi is going to be invaded soon and will start building it up as soon as the construction units arrive from Japan. In the next week i'll buy more engineers unit to be used to start fortyifying Bouganville and Munda too.
I'm still uncertain where to put all my air HQs... for sure one will be staying in Rabaul (with range 4) and i'd like to build up the whole chain of bases around Rabaul, so to have an extraordinary fortress there.
PM will probably not be built up. I will build forts and a series of AFs around Buna-Lae area...Pm will be used as a "pillow"
Horn Island and Meurake so? Well, i think they are both undefended so probably a SNLF will be sufficient to invade them. The SSD and the Guards regiment are already loaded on transports and will start to move to PM as soon as the KB comes back from Brisbane.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 31, 41
KB moves to refuel between Noumea and Brisbane where she meets the AOs.
Kaga+Ryuho are moving back to Cambra Bay to finally refuel and get their torps back (and their Kates!!!!).
The news of the day is that 2 strong allied formations are spotted near Ambon- Menado area. There's a 7 ships TF (only 2 CLs identified for sure) moving east of Menado towards Bandoleap! and another TF that appears smaller (a CV was reported but probably is a mistake) moving south of Ambon. I got an amphib TFs undefended near Menado, while my mini-KB is refueling 10 hexes far away on the east....
few days ago we had identified CA Camberra in those waters so probably it's an Australian SCTF trying to smash my landings.... still undecided if to send my BBs and my CVL/CVEs to meet them or not...the presence of a possible CV scares me...
In China he's threatening Amory (southern coast in front of Pescadores)... i'll try to counter it but i fear i have already lost those bases... too many partisans to take care of!
In Burma he seems to be evacuating Moulmein...[X(] We'll attack tomorrow with a RTA division and a regiment of the 55th Division, supported by the 15th army HQ.
70 Sallies are pounding Singapore every day.
the first attack at Cayegan (the last redoubt in allied hands in Mindanao) is repulsed...will wait for the second regiment and the tanks to come in and finish the job.
Unloading a Naval Guard units and a base force at Marcus Is. The next base force that arrives will go to Wake.
Everything is quiet near java...only the same old transports loading res and oil at Balikapan...hopefully we'll hit them tomorrow once again.
- ny59giants
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RE: Let's start!
Tulagi is going to be invaded soon and will start building it up as soon as the construction units arrive from Japan. In the next week i'll buy more engineers unit to be used to start fortyifying Bouganville and Munda too.
I'm still uncertain where to put all my air HQs... for sure one will be staying in Rabaul (with range 4) and i'd like to build up the whole chain of bases around Rabaul, so to have an extraordinary fortress there.
PM will probably not be built up. I will build forts and a series of AFs around Buna-Lae area...Pm will be used as a "pillow"
You will have plenty of time to fortify Rabaul. Why think about that area now?? Expand further south. How far is up to you.
I listed 'potential' bases for you Air HQs over the next few weeks. If not PM, then Milne Bay area is good as it is like Rabaul and those dot bases could be built up. Add in Sabang on the very northern tip of Sumatra vs leaving it on Malaya if you capture that base.
The news of the day is that 2 strong allied formations are spotted near Ambon- Menado area. There's a 7 ships TF (only 2 CLs identified for sure) moving east of Menado towards Bandoleap! and another TF that appears smaller (a CV was reported but probably is a mistake) moving south of Ambon. I got an amphib TFs undefended near Menado, while my mini-KB is refueling 10 hexes far away on the east....
few days ago we had identified CA Camberra in those waters so probably it's an Australian SCTF trying to smash my landings.... still undecided if to send my BBs and my CVL/CVEs to meet them or not...the presence of a possible CV scares me..
Enterprise could have and probably did send those Vindicators to Rabaul via Wake. Since you had a CV off Japan, that was probably Lexington as Saratoga starts at San Diego. Enterprise could remain just close enough to Pearl to have either a small Marine fighter group or the old SBD-1 fly on day 2. She could easily reach Townsville in 10 days (18th Dec). Refuel, and be off Darwin by Christmas. Thus, you will see his CV and his refueled and re-armed SC TFs operating in this area. I would not be surprised to see him have an Air HQ there with the TBs (Swordfish and Vildebeest) at a size 2 AF. He has enough supply to do this. So, have an Air HQ at both Babeldoab and at Davao along with Nell/Betty and Zeros along with a Mavis group to see what he has there. Think about sending KB over after you land at Port Moresby and Horn Island.
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1) CV Hornet just arrived at San Diego. So plan accordingly.
2) I know you lost some DMS at Palembang. You don't have any over at Truk, so send 2 or 3 from Takao.
3) Send one or two Recon units to Rabaul area that can be divided into three parts. Start to recon potential invasion points like Horn Island or Luganville before sending in troops. Don't bump your big toe in the dark because you were unwilling to turn on the lights. [:D]
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RE: Let's start!
Kurile Islands
There is method to make these islands better protected. I bring this up now as I would prepare for a 'potential' raid by 2 CVs into this area to try to sink your transports moving resources back from bases in Sakhalin and Hokkaido.
All the islands in the Kuriles have the base assigned to "5th Fleet." Thus, you are unable to fly in the many air groups in Japan to any of the bases. However, you can fly them to Formosa as those bases are assigned to "General Defense" command. [8|] So, you need to change a base within the Kuriles over to "General Defense." Here's how!!
1) Change the command of a small AA and regular BF over to "5th Fleet."
2) Use an Amphib TF to transport them to an island (I would pick either Uruppu-jima or Shimushiri-jima).
3) After they have unloaded, change the command of the small AA back to "General Defense."
4) You should now be able to change the command of the base over to "General Defense."
This should cost less than 200 PP.
Now, you should be able to select that base as a destination for all your Restricted air groups within Japan. [:)] Build up that base steadily with the 1 BF there and maybe later add more BFs and/or engineers. Find a FP unit on Japan that can be bought out using PP. Do so. Find an AV in Japan that you can take off the organic FP and place this unit on to re-size. It will probably be a max of 9. This unit is taken off the next day and upgraded to Jakes. This air unit (FP with Jakes) will now go to the island that just had the BF and AA on it and set to 50% Naval Search, 20% train, and 20% Rest. Also, in the near future, one of the Air HQs that is in Japan that can be bought out (PP) and moved to Hokkaido.
I learned this lesson the hard way in one of my first games as Japan as 2 CVs came up through this area (by FatR) and wiped out almost all those transport TF in two days and left without any attacks by me. I had nothing set up here to give me warning and the ability to react. My Air HQs were down around Tokyo or further west. Never again. [:-]
Class Dismissed!! [:D]
There is method to make these islands better protected. I bring this up now as I would prepare for a 'potential' raid by 2 CVs into this area to try to sink your transports moving resources back from bases in Sakhalin and Hokkaido.
All the islands in the Kuriles have the base assigned to "5th Fleet." Thus, you are unable to fly in the many air groups in Japan to any of the bases. However, you can fly them to Formosa as those bases are assigned to "General Defense" command. [8|] So, you need to change a base within the Kuriles over to "General Defense." Here's how!!
1) Change the command of a small AA and regular BF over to "5th Fleet."
2) Use an Amphib TF to transport them to an island (I would pick either Uruppu-jima or Shimushiri-jima).
3) After they have unloaded, change the command of the small AA back to "General Defense."
4) You should now be able to change the command of the base over to "General Defense."
This should cost less than 200 PP.
Now, you should be able to select that base as a destination for all your Restricted air groups within Japan. [:)] Build up that base steadily with the 1 BF there and maybe later add more BFs and/or engineers. Find a FP unit on Japan that can be bought out using PP. Do so. Find an AV in Japan that you can take off the organic FP and place this unit on to re-size. It will probably be a max of 9. This unit is taken off the next day and upgraded to Jakes. This air unit (FP with Jakes) will now go to the island that just had the BF and AA on it and set to 50% Naval Search, 20% train, and 20% Rest. Also, in the near future, one of the Air HQs that is in Japan that can be bought out (PP) and moved to Hokkaido.
I learned this lesson the hard way in one of my first games as Japan as 2 CVs came up through this area (by FatR) and wiped out almost all those transport TF in two days and left without any attacks by me. I had nothing set up here to give me warning and the ability to react. My Air HQs were down around Tokyo or further west. Never again. [:-]
Class Dismissed!! [:D]
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KB moves to refuel between Noumea and Brisbane where she meets the AOs.
Kaga+Ryuho are moving back to Cambra Bay to finally refuel and get their torps back (and their Kates!!!!).

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RE: Let's start!
You missed:ORIGINAL: jeffk3510
KB moves to refuel between Noumea and Brisbane where she meets the AOs.
Kaga+Ryuho are moving back to Cambra Bay to finally refuel and get their torps back (and their Kates!!!!).
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the first attack at Cayegan (the last redoubt in allied hands in Mindanao) is repulsed...will wait for the second regiment and the tanks to come in and finish the job.
So that post is a two-fer!


RE: Let's start!
ORIGINAL: TheLoneGunman
You missed:ORIGINAL: jeffk3510
KB moves to refuel between Noumea and Brisbane where she meets the AOs.
Kaga+Ryuho are moving back to Cambra Bay to finally refuel and get their torps back (and their Kates!!!!).
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the first attack at Cayegan (the last redoubt in allied hands in Mindanao) is repulsed...will wait for the second regiment and the tanks to come in and finish the job.
So that post is a two-fer!
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There are so many reasons to follow this AAR [:D]
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RE: Let's start!
and we have not even begun to take the DEI or China!quote:
ORIGINAL: TheLoneGunman
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ORIGINAL: jeffk3510
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KB moves to refuel between Noumea and Brisbane where she meets the AOs.
Kaga+Ryuho are moving back to Cambra Bay to finally refuel and get their torps back (and their Kates!!!!).
You missed:
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the first attack at Cayegan (the last redoubt in allied hands in Mindanao) is repulsed...will wait for the second regiment and the tanks to come in and finish the job.
So that post is a two-fer!
There are so many reasons to follow this AAR
Today I come bearing an olive branch in one hand, and the freedom fighter's gun in the other. Do not let the olive branch fall from my hand. I repeat, do not let the olive branch fall from my hand. - Yasser Arafat Speech to UN General Assembly
RE: Let's start!
ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth
and we have not even begun to take the DEI or China!quote:
ORIGINAL: TheLoneGunman
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ORIGINAL: jeffk3510
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KB moves to refuel between Noumea and Brisbane where she meets the AOs.
Kaga+Ryuho are moving back to Cambra Bay to finally refuel and get their torps back (and their Kates!!!!).
You missed:
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the first attack at Cayegan (the last redoubt in allied hands in Mindanao) is repulsed...will wait for the second regiment and the tanks to come in and finish the job.
So that post is a two-fer!
There are so many reasons to follow this AAR
[:D]...ok, you're lucky that i have a strong sense of humor[:'(]
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 01, 02, 42
In the last two days we had the confirmation that the enemy is making a stand in souther DEI. Probably a Timor Fortress strategy, along with the reinforcement of Ambon and, it appears, Horn Island.
Several major warships are spotted between Ambon and Timor, while resupplying TFs are signaled at Horn Island.
His american CAs attacked and sunk an amphib TF that was delivering a base force at Ternate, revealing their presence. So Micheal was probably right: american CVs have been moved to southeastern DEI lately.
Countermeasures are taken: Kaga+Ryujo will move to recombine with mini-KB (Zuiho+Tayio+Hosho) south of Mindanao, while the KB will support the landings at PM, Mylne Bay, Horn Island and Mereuake (the last two are probably fortified)- recon ordered for the next days) and will move through the straits flanking the enemy positions near Ambon.
The idea is to trap the enemy fleets between the hammer (Kaga's group 200 planes strong), coming from north, and the anvil (KB), coming from southeast.
Kaga will also cover the 5th Ambinb Bde landings in southern Borneo (Tarakan), while 4 SNLFs will be getting ready for a landing in Java.
In Burma we conquered Moulmein, pushing back what was left of his garrison after the evacuation behind the river.
Rangoon's harbour is hit again, sinking and damaging several ships disbanded (with Sallies) and sinking several transports unloading (with Nells from Bankok).
We attacked his shippings resupplying Horn Island with our betties from Rabaul.
In China we finally were able to free Canton from enemy's siege and the army operating there has been pushed eastwards, opening the way to the north.
I'm massing a strong Tank Corp for a push in the Sian area. Hopefully, those tanks, operating in the plains, will be able to estabilish a bridghead behind the river that the enemy is using to create a defensive perimeter.
2 of our divisions entered in Changsha, where 120k enemies are waiting. Wanna pin them down and stop the industries producing supplies.
In Malaya we're getting closer and closer everyday to Singapore, which is daily bombed by 80 very effective Sallies.
In Sumatra we're advancing towards Oosthaven, while pushing back the former defenders of Palembang westwards. We'll try a para-drop against Sebang in the next 2 days.
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 40
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 21
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
xAKL Agnes, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Ellenga, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
HDML 1102, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
HDML 1101, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
Port hits 14
Port fuel hits 7
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Horn Island at 91,128
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
xAK Johanne Justesen
xAK Centaur, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 54,53
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
G3M2 Nell x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
xAK Hupeh, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Hoihow, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Marion Moller, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Baroda, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
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Ground combat at Canton (77,59)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 46240 troops, 500 guns, 186 vehicles, Assault Value = 1148
Defending force 11739 troops, 86 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 319
Japanese adjusted assault: 1525
Allied adjusted defense: 293
Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
937 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 91 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Allied ground losses:
3592 casualties reported
Squads: 136 destroyed, 47 disabled
Non Combat: 131 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 12 (2 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Units retreated 3
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
20th Ind Engineer Regiment
104th Division
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
68th Ind.Infantry Battalion
20th RGC/A Division
19th Ind Engineer Regiment
67th Ind.Infantry Battalion
1st Ind.Inf.Group
66th Infantry Regiment
38th/C Division
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
5th RF Gun Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
21st Mortar Battalion
23rd Army
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
2nd JAAF AF Coy
1st JAAF AF Coy
47th JAAF AF Bn
Canton Special Base Force
38th/A Div /1
Defending units:
62nd Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
16th Group Army











