Plimus.....Really Matrix?

[rjh1971]

Guys try installing DAP, download accelerator plus, it really speed up things, I purchased the 42,43, 44 & 45 pzcorps campaigns yesterday (before vat rises in september[:@]) and my download speed was 1,2 Mb maximum I get with my 20 Mb DSL line.

[Fallschirmjager]

I am blessed to live in one of the few areas of the southeast US who has invested heavily into fiber optics.

[Valhuen]

ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

ORIGINAL: Valhuen
Actually, this is a fallacy, and a common straw-man put up in these debates. The reason market penetration is limited has nothing to do with the genre, but everything to do with the developer & publisher. Again I go back to my Paradox example, while many here may shun them, they do put out a number of detailed & involved titles such as Crusader Kings II, HOI III, EU III, etc. These games have a surprisingly large saturation given what can be seen as their "limited" appeal. All these games have learning curves more advanced than any Matrix title I have played (with the exception of WitP AE & maybe TOAWIII).

Yet because Paradox has ingratiated themselves with many DD providers, and because their games do frequently go on sale, people that would otherwise never try a turn-based historical wargame take a chance on a purchase, and many end up wanting more. This is the key here for longevity in the hobby, if games published by Matrix were more widely available (and some of the titles they carry are sold elsewhere like GamersGate usually at a more competitive price) and included a competitive pricing model, I think we would see a lot of new blood that would have otherwise been intimidated due to pricing and complexity take the chance on buying a game in which they would normally pass.

Heh, by bringing up Paradox you prove my point. While I wouldn’t say their games are nearly as complex as most Matrix titles, they do sell to a limited genre and their business practices over the years simply proves my point. They continually release crap unfinished games and refuse to patch them more than once or twice before bundling the next patch into an “expansion” and charging us for the privilege of trying to fix their broken garbage.

Wow...and Matrix doesn't? Please....looking at you Crown of Glory & WWI (just off the top of my head). To say that Matrix is above reproach when it comes to quality control is being a bit disingenuous. There are few companies out there these days that regularly release polished games on day one for the PC marketplace.

[Valhuen]

ORIGINAL: wodin
200, the I suggest you shut up and wait and maybe read, or draw or play something else or even watch the tellybox. Or listen to music. Lots of things out there to do you know.

Transitioning to personal attacks now are we? Definitely the way to reinforce your argument......[8|]

And again.....I don't think complaining about 120kbs download rates (the average I had for today) in 2012 is a sign of "entitlement mentality", thankfully I was only downloading 2gb total (4 hours to complete). Looking at several forum threads, people attempting large downloads had their DL links suspended by Plimus because they DL's were taking over 24 hours to complete (Plimus suspends DL links after 24 hours, ironic considering that is likely how long you will be downloading a large game).

That some people find this acceptable, well reeks of the internet equivalent of "Back in my day we only got 10kbs, and you know what.....WE LIKED IT!!! Now get off my lawn!"

[Aurelian]

Eh, while down loading software, if it takes awhile I'll go do something else.

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

Eh, while down loading software, if it takes awhile I'll go do something else.

Really I just play one of the allready DL'ed games, so many titles here that I have pbem games running in, so takes some time to go through them all every day.

At OP, yes, the speed could be better, but it is not awful either, and if waiting 1-2 hours for a DL to finnish is the price I have to pay to play matrixgames games, I am very happy about that. But to each his own, and by opening up this thread, you might catch the companys eye, and they will reply to it. THAT is one thing noone can say anything against, the support you get here is far and above what you get other places.


Terje

[IainMcNeil]

Hi guys,

we use the Amazon Cloud to host all files which is very reliable and obviously one of the biggest and best. For people having issues where are you located? Are you able to see where the bottleneck in the connection is? It may be the issue is in a link in the chain as the servers should be able to cope with the demand, but if we get more info we can look in to it and see if there is anything that can be done.

Thanks

[z1812]

Use a download optimizer.

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: z1812

Use a download optimizer.

Or just exercise a LITTLE patience.

But I think Matrix is working on a new delivery system that is faster than the speed of light. Once this is in place games will be available on your computer before they are even released.

[Bison36]

ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

Hi guys,

we use the Amazon Cloud to host all files which is very reliable and obviously one of the biggest and best. For people having issues where are you located? Are you able to see where the bottleneck in the connection is? It may be the issue is in a link in the chain as the servers should be able to cope with the demand, but if we get more info we can look in to it and see if there is anything that can be done.

Thanks

Does the Amazon Cloud also handle the patches? I'll often have patching that will drop down to kbs and the connection will break causing an error. This is does not seem to be location dependents as its happened in several different States.

[Bison36]

The civility on this site has taken a down turn from years past.

[Hanal]

If I have a slow download of a file, I go read a book, take a dump, open a new window and browse, or whatever, and come back when the DL is done....If you are going to sit there and stare at the little flying folder for the entire time, then of course it is slow....this entire argument is superfluous....

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: J P Falcon

If I have a slow download of a file, I go read a book, take a dump, open a new window and browse, or whatever, and come back when the DL is done....If you are going to sit there and stare at the little flying folder for the entire time, then of course it is slow....this entire argument is superfluous....

Read? Do something other than tap your foot at stare at your stopwatch? What does it all mean?

[IainMcNeil]

No - patches come direct from our server at the moment so are likely to be more variable with demand. E.g. when a Panzer Corps patch releases we really struggle to meet demand.

[Hertston]

ORIGINAL: Valhuen

Downloading both from Primus I am getting 200kbs on a very good cable connection, I have never had downloads this slow. This also seems to be a common complaint regarding Plimus (in addition to having a bad reputation all around).

Download speeds on purchasing via Plimus are much slower than from, say, Steam or Gamersgate. Not a major issue for me as I'm quite happy to get on doing something else, but the man does have a point.

[Jamm]

It's all relative,

Like the last hour at work

The time it takes to receive your reward is inversely proportional to how badly you want it,..

[Toby42]

I just dowloaded DC: Case Blue. Less than five minutes! Very good speed. I was close to my speed that I pay for from RoadRunner (10MBS)... I'm happy.

[Bison36]

ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

No - patches come direct from our server at the moment so are likely to be more variable with demand. E.g. when a Panzer Corps patch releases we really struggle to meet demand.

OK. Thanks Iain that makes sense based on what I saw for download speed variations on patching the last few times.

[Gilmer]

I think Blizzard is the worst.

[parusski]

We really need a support group. I am currently downloading Panzer Corps update v110. The speed is only 324 KB/sec. I have nothing else to do. Watch TV or Netflix I COULD do. I might read a book or a magazine or this forum. I could play one of my current games. Oh, I could do chores-that's far fetched. But I am doing none of these because I want this update yesterday. I do not have time for this. What should I do???? Anyone? Anyone?? Bueller??