Would anyone like to make me a piece of shipside art?

[Fallschirmjager]

I am making some small modifications to Andy Macs Iron Man scenario for personal use. I have sprinkled in a few changes and the biggest that I am going to attempt is adding in a completely new class of battle cruiser.

It is going to be a 3 ship class of battle cruiser for the USN. They will combine some ideas from the Lexington class, with the Alaska class and some ideas of my own. They will be true battle cruisers and not large cruisers like the Alaska's.

I used Springsharp to help my design.

Here are some specifications to help your art. If there are multiple entires I will submit them to the design bureau and a decision will be made [:D]

The ships are going to be a fairly modern design but all three will make their appearance in the first 9 months of the war.
The design will be from 1936 with the hulls being laid down between 1937-1938 and being commissioned in 1940-early 1941.
So the look needs to be somewhat between the Colorado and North Carolina class. I like the long sleek lines of the North Carolina. The North Dakota class looks too short and both ends look like they were shortened.

Weight 44,000 tons
Three funnels
One tower, slightly swept back
8 x 14 inch guns, four double turrets, two fore and two aft evenly distributed
16 x 5 inch guns, 8 double ring turrets, clustered towards center
3 x 4 1.1 inch AA guns two forward and 1 aft
10 x 1 0.5 inch AA machine gun
Provision for eight seaplanes, two catapults


I will be hugely indebted to whomever can help. If you really want to go the extra mile, you can create a upgraded version too with a slightly changed tower and radar antenna added. You can also mix up the paint schemes. I plan on having three upgrades during the war.

Massive thanks to whomever takes on the challenge [&o]

[GaryChildress]

ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

I am making some small modifications to Andy Macs Iron Man scenario for personal use. I have sprinkled in a few changes and the biggest that I am going to attempt is adding in a completely new class of battle cruiser.

It is going to be a 3 ship class of battle cruiser for the USN. They will combine some ideas from the Lexington class, with the Alaska class and some ideas of my own. They will be true battle cruisers and not large cruisers like the Alaska's.

I used Springsharp to help my design.

Here are some specifications to help your art. If there are multiple entires I will submit them to the design bureau and a decision will be made [:D]

The ships are going to be a fairly modern design but all three will make their appearance in the first 9 months of the war.
The design will be from 1936 with the hulls being laid down between 1937-1938 and being commissioned in 1940-early 1941.
So the look needs to be somewhat between the Colorado and North Carolina class. I like the long sleek lines of the North Carolina. The North Dakota class looks too short and both ends look like they were shortened.

Weight 44,000 tons
Three funnels
One tower, slightly swept back
8 x 14 inch guns, four double turrets, two fore and two aft evenly distributed
16 x 5 inch guns, 8 double ring turrets, clustered towards center
3 x 4 1.1 inch AA guns two forward and 1 aft
10 x 1 0.5 inch AA machine gun
Provision for eight seaplanes, two catapults


I will be hugely indebted to whomever can help. If you really want to go the extra mile, you can create a upgraded version too with a slightly changed tower and radar antenna added. You can also mix up the paint schemes. I plan on having three upgrades during the war.

Massive thanks to whomever takes on the challenge [&o]

What is the length of the ship so I know how many pixels to make my submission to the design bureau.

[Fallschirmjager]

ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

I am making some small modifications to Andy Macs Iron Man scenario for personal use. I have sprinkled in a few changes and the biggest that I am going to attempt is adding in a completely new class of battle cruiser.

It is going to be a 3 ship class of battle cruiser for the USN. They will combine some ideas from the Lexington class, with the Alaska class and some ideas of my own. They will be true battle cruisers and not large cruisers like the Alaska's.

I used Springsharp to help my design.

Here are some specifications to help your art. If there are multiple entires I will submit them to the design bureau and a decision will be made [:D]

The ships are going to be a fairly modern design but all three will make their appearance in the first 9 months of the war.
The design will be from 1936 with the hulls being laid down between 1937-1938 and being commissioned in 1940-early 1941.
So the look needs to be somewhat between the Colorado and North Carolina class. I like the long sleek lines of the North Carolina. The North Dakota class looks too short and both ends look like they were shortened.

Weight 44,000 tons
Three funnels
One tower, slightly swept back
8 x 14 inch guns, four double turrets, two fore and two aft evenly distributed
16 x 5 inch guns, 8 double ring turrets, clustered towards center
3 x 4 1.1 inch AA guns two forward and 1 aft
10 x 1 0.5 inch AA machine gun
Provision for eight seaplanes, two catapults


I will be hugely indebted to whomever can help. If you really want to go the extra mile, you can create a upgraded version too with a slightly changed tower and radar antenna added. You can also mix up the paint schemes. I plan on having three upgrades during the war.

Massive thanks to whomever takes on the challenge [&o]

What is the length of the ship so I know how many pixels to make my submission to the design bureau.

Length: 775 feet
Beam: 102 feet
Draft: 31.5 feet

[GaryChildress]

EDIT: Out of copyright concern I have deleted the image and am revoking permission to use this ship in any mod. My apologies to the copyright holders if I have infringed upon them.

[GaryChildress]

EDIT: Previews taken down.

[US87891]

I know that John, Kelley and Brian have waived their Copyright claims with respect to Matrix. But it is customary to cite just where one gets their derivatives from. SuluSea has an affirmative pass from the Copyright holders, as do others. Copy-paste is fun, but outside the confines of the WiTPAE game offered by Matrix Corp, the Copyright holders could get annoyed. Not likely to happen, but one might just like to note where they get their images from.

[Fallschirmjager]

I am confused? What just happened?

How can you copyright a made up ship?


Can someone actually draw me a ship from scratch?

[GaryChildress]

ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

I am confused? What just happened?

How can you copyright a made up ship?


Can someone actually draw me a ship from scratch?

I could and have done it before but it would take me about an hour or more to do a single ship from scratch.

The ships I have been making all involve cutting up and pasting amalgamations of existing art in AE. I'm not sure who to credit because the art is from one of the three WITP AE artists and I'm not sure which one. Also all my plane sides have all been images googled from the internet, reduced to scale, and polished up. I've taken them down as well because I'm not sure who the different artists are for the plane sides. Clearly US87891 is concerned for the welfare of the original artists and I don't want to overstep copyright laws. Plus he seems to take pleasure in belitting me at every opportunity he gets and I'm tired of feeling "little".

[Fallschirmjager]

I understand

I don't want any copyright laws or other artists work's infringed upon either. And I do appreciate the time it takes to do this art. I only wish I had the skill.
You also have your own mod you are working on.

If you or anyone else wants to take on the challenge of creating my ship I would be hugely indebted. I have nothing I can offer for the effort beyond just saying 'thanks'

Hopefully someone will take up the challenge. I have the ship created in the editor and the rest of my changes are done and tested. All I lack is this art to be able to start my game.

And also, I am not creating a mod here. This will never see release beyond my own hard drive.

Thanks again your for effort. And any future efforts.

[US87891]

That’s overreacting, and a bit childish. The guys made it perfectly clear many times that they waived their rights for game purposes. But credit should be given where credit is due.

[GaryChildress]

ORIGINAL: US87891

That’s overreacting, and a bit childish. The guys made it perfectly clear many times that they waived their rights for game purposes. But credit should be given where credit is due.

Guess it's to be expected considering my last name.

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[Fallschirmjager]

I hate to beg, but I am wanting to get my scenario started. I have the ship in the editor, I just need the piece of art and then I can get underway.

If you need any further specifications to help your creation I will gladly give them. Thanks again.

[Fallschirmjager]

This small amount of editing (the ship and three upgrades) took me a few hours. I have an all new respect for the game makers now.

Now it just needs a kindly soul to provide her with some art.


I added three into the game.

USS America
USS Montana
USS Maine

[GaryChildress]

ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

I hate to beg, but I am wanting to get my scenario started. I have the ship in the editor, I just need the piece of art and then I can get underway.

If you need any further specifications to help your creation I will gladly give them. Thanks again.

Hi Fallschirmjager. I will create another contender for your mod - from scratch. Give me a couple hours though.

[GaryChildress]

OK. Here's my new entry for the proposal. Built from the keel up from scratch. Not a shred of this ship is borrowed from anyone elses work. Anyone and everyone has my permission to do what they wish with this ship, including alter it for their own purposes.

EDIT: The ship background is also of my original creation and can be found at the end of my art thread if anyone wants to use the backgrounds for their own work.

[GaryChildress]

Here's the preview. Of course the JPG image is a bit blurry. The BMP image will be sharper.

[GaryChildress]

In case you don't like the seaplane in the middle of the ship or if you want a more radical upgrade path, here's a second version.

EDIT: Also with the guns closer to midship you might be able to get away with triple mounts.

[GaryChildress]

And the preview.

[Fallschirmjager]

Thank you, thank you, thank you


The design board has selected the second entry with the catapults at the stern of the ship. I will get these into the game, correct my errors and then add air groups. Then I will take some more pictures.

I only wish I had a way of paying you back for your effort. All I can say is thank you, yet again

[GaryChildress]

ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

Thank you, thank you, thank you


The design board has selected the second entry with the catapults at the stern of the ship. I will get these into the game, correct my errors and then add air groups. Then I will take some more pictures.

I only wish I had a pay of paying you back for your effort. All I can say is thank you, yet again

No payment is necessary. I work for kudos. [:)]