I'm giving it serious consideration, guys. I was there four years ago and thoroughly enjoyed myself. For those who've never been, you don't want to miss it.
I also took in Gettysburg while I was in the area... another worthwhile visit.
At any rate, I'll be following this post. I'll let you guys know if I can confirm this. If old David is going, I guess I'll have to make the trip...
Wild Bill
Sp:waw-con 2003
Moderator: MOD_SPWaW
Originally posted by Wild Bill
I'm giving it serious consideration, guys. I was there four years ago and thoroughly enjoyed myself. For those who've never been, you don't want to miss it.
I also took in Gettysburg while I was in the area... another worthwhile visit.
At any rate, I'll be following this post. I'll let you guys know if I can confirm this. If old David is going, I guess I'll have to make the trip...
Wild Bill
WB, if you can make it we'd love to have you. You're on my short list of "Folks I Have Got To Meet In This Lifetime"
What, me worry?
Bernie and M4
Hey All:
I'm late on this reply, but I don't get to this site that often anymore. I was at Aberdeen a couple of years ago. I coordinated the trip to coincide with the MVPA (Military Vehicle Preservation Assoc) convention.... (I think it is in May).
Do a search on MVPA. It may be too late for you to change your schedule this year, but there are advantages for visiting during the convention. The MVPA group was on the grounds of Aberdeen with a few hundred exhibits of restored vehicles, vendors, some reenactors etc. This is a good event in itself. Also the director of the Ordnance Museum (sorry, I forget his name), you may have seen him on the History Channel, gave a guided tour of the usually unseen parts of the complex. I saw the restoration shops and the warehouse where the restored vehicles are being housed until a new building can be built. Without the giuded tour you will be limited to see the "rusting hulks" (the dir's words) outside and the small arms collection in the musuem building. The museum plans to restore the hulks and move them all inside, to a new building when they have the funds to build it. His tour explained what they are up against with the EPA as far as rendering the vehicles safe (they even have to change any glow in the dark gauges!). He said they also receive hate mail form people that think it is a musuem to war and that the vehicles should be sold for scrap. Maybe you can contact him and arrange a tour. They rely on donations and private funding, so I would encourage anyone who can make it to go, and to drop some change in their jar.
-Dogfish
When you're wounded and left
on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out
to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle
and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Kipling
I'm late on this reply, but I don't get to this site that often anymore. I was at Aberdeen a couple of years ago. I coordinated the trip to coincide with the MVPA (Military Vehicle Preservation Assoc) convention.... (I think it is in May).
Do a search on MVPA. It may be too late for you to change your schedule this year, but there are advantages for visiting during the convention. The MVPA group was on the grounds of Aberdeen with a few hundred exhibits of restored vehicles, vendors, some reenactors etc. This is a good event in itself. Also the director of the Ordnance Museum (sorry, I forget his name), you may have seen him on the History Channel, gave a guided tour of the usually unseen parts of the complex. I saw the restoration shops and the warehouse where the restored vehicles are being housed until a new building can be built. Without the giuded tour you will be limited to see the "rusting hulks" (the dir's words) outside and the small arms collection in the musuem building. The museum plans to restore the hulks and move them all inside, to a new building when they have the funds to build it. His tour explained what they are up against with the EPA as far as rendering the vehicles safe (they even have to change any glow in the dark gauges!). He said they also receive hate mail form people that think it is a musuem to war and that the vehicles should be sold for scrap. Maybe you can contact him and arrange a tour. They rely on donations and private funding, so I would encourage anyone who can make it to go, and to drop some change in their jar.
-Dogfish
When you're wounded and left
on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out
to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle
and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Kipling
When you're wounded and left
on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out
to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle
and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Kipling
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on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out
to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle
and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Kipling
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Re: Bernie and M4
Originally posted by Dogfish
Hey All:
I'm late on this reply, but I don't get to this site that often anymore. I was at Aberdeen a couple of years ago. I coordinated the trip to coincide with the MVPA (Military Vehicle Preservation Assoc) convention.... (I think it is in May).
Do a search on MVPA. It may be too late for you to change your schedule this year, but there are advantages for visiting during the convention. The MVPA group was on the grounds of Aberdeen with a few hundred exhibits of restored vehicles, vendors, some reenactors etc. This is a good event in itself. Also the director of the Ordnance Museum (sorry, I forget his name), you may have seen him on the History Channel, gave a guided tour of the usually unseen parts of the complex. I saw the restoration shops and the warehouse where the restored vehicles are being housed until a new building can be built. Without the giuded tour you will be limited to see the "rusting hulks" (the dir's words) outside and the small arms collection in the musuem building. The museum plans to restore the hulks and move them all inside, to a new building when they have the funds to build it. His tour explained what they are up against with the EPA as far as rendering the vehicles safe (they even have to change any glow in the dark gauges!). He said they also receive hate mail form people that think it is a musuem to war and that the vehicles should be sold for scrap. Maybe you can contact him and arrange a tour. They rely on donations and private funding, so I would encourage anyone who can make it to go, and to drop some change in their jar.
-Dogfish
When you're wounded and left
on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out
to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle
and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Kipling
Well! You've given us much to think about here. I'll do a web search tonight and see what I can find about this years convention. Jess? Might we want to reschedule if it's close to the day we picked?
What, me worry?
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All,
I live up the road near the mouth of the Susquehanna River at Havre De Grace.
Frank Howell, AKA Sven, lives on post and conducts a mean tour.
If assistance is needed, I can collect some of the local data, like, times for the Ripkin museum, The Ironbirds ballpark, and, some other local tourist 'traps'.
Not too sure what the security level will be around that time, but the museum loves company these days....
I live up the road near the mouth of the Susquehanna River at Havre De Grace.
Frank Howell, AKA Sven, lives on post and conducts a mean tour.
If assistance is needed, I can collect some of the local data, like, times for the Ripkin museum, The Ironbirds ballpark, and, some other local tourist 'traps'.
Not too sure what the security level will be around that time, but the museum loves company these days....
-Jeff
Veritas Vos Liberabit
"Hate America - love their movies" -Foos Babaganoosh - Anchor - Jihad Tonite
Veritas Vos Liberabit
"Hate America - love their movies" -Foos Babaganoosh - Anchor - Jihad Tonite
Re: Re: Bernie and M4
Originally posted by Bernie
Well! You've given us much to think about here. I'll do a web search tonight and see what I can find about this years convention. Jess? Might we want to reschedule if it's close to the day we picked?
No lets do this! the date is set! if we dont hold the date then it will never happen....
Jess
Im making war, not trouble~
Re: Re: Re: Bernie and M4
Originally posted by M4 Jess
No lets do this! the date is set! if we dont hold the date then it will never happen....
Jess
Okay, April 6th it is! However, maybe a return vist when the convention is there would be possible?
What, me worry?
Re: Bernie and M4
Originally posted by Dogfish
Hey All:
I'm late on this reply, but I don't get to this site that often anymore. I was at Aberdeen a couple of years ago. I coordinated the trip to coincide with the MVPA (Military Vehicle Preservation Assoc) convention.... (I think it is in May).
Do a search on MVPA.
I'm sorry to report that this tear the MVPA convention will be in California, and no events are scheduled for the Baltimore/D.C. area this year. You can find their web site at http://www.mvpa.org for more information about the association and it's events.
What, me worry?
Hi guys,
I'm more of a UV/WitP nut than SP:WaW, but I've been wanting to visit the Ordnance Museum for years (my buddy did OCS right near there and told me all about the museum).
Count me in for the trip, for sure. Perhaps we should all buy Matrix hats from the Matrix online store to recognize each other. Or we can just look for the pale skin and bulging eyes of people who spend way too much time in front of their PCs.
Does anyone know if the museum is handicapped accesable? I am in a wheel chair...
I'm more of a UV/WitP nut than SP:WaW, but I've been wanting to visit the Ordnance Museum for years (my buddy did OCS right near there and told me all about the museum).
Count me in for the trip, for sure. Perhaps we should all buy Matrix hats from the Matrix online store to recognize each other. Or we can just look for the pale skin and bulging eyes of people who spend way too much time in front of their PCs.
Does anyone know if the museum is handicapped accesable? I am in a wheel chair...
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Re: Thumb Out
Originally posted by Mogami
Hi, Anyone going near Va Beach on the way up?
Ill come get your arse!
you get you CD???
Jess
Im making war, not trouble~
Re: Re: Thumb Out
Originally posted by M4 Jess
Ill come get your arse!
you get you CD???
Jess
Hi, I think that would be an 8 hour round trip for you. And no the snail you stapled the CD to must have gotten lost. If I was not so busy testing UV/WITP I'd cry.
(If WB and DH decide to go, I'm coming even if I have to walk)
I'm not retreating, I'm attacking in a different direction!
Va Bch
Hi, I don't think Va Bch is on the way from Georgia. I'll buy beer but we can't drink and drive. (So you drive and I'll sit in the back and protect the beer) No CD yet
I'm not retreating, I'm attacking in a different direction!
Hi, I used to volunteer there and they are reopened. The crowds and donations are severely down and I am sure they will be happy to see so many visitors. Dr. Atwater is a classy man and very approachable.
You will need to bring a proper ID, proof of registration and insurance and they will issue you a daypass at the tank row gate. If any of you are wanting a point of contact or phone numbers please feel free to PM me. I might even show up and give the nickle tour.
They are in the process of restoring several pieces so if you would like to know the disposition of any particular model please feel free to post it and ask and I will PM the data.
regards,
sven
You will need to bring a proper ID, proof of registration and insurance and they will issue you a daypass at the tank row gate. If any of you are wanting a point of contact or phone numbers please feel free to PM me. I might even show up and give the nickle tour.
They are in the process of restoring several pieces so if you would like to know the disposition of any particular model please feel free to post it and ask and I will PM the data.
regards,
sven
I'll be going, God willing. I'm determined to go. I want to at least meet so many of you. Might be my last chance...you never know.
I'll be flying up since my brother lives in Baltimore. I'll be visiting him and we'll head over to Aberdeen Proving Ground.
This should be a lot of fun for all of us!
WB
I'll be flying up since my brother lives in Baltimore. I'll be visiting him and we'll head over to Aberdeen Proving Ground.
This should be a lot of fun for all of us!
WB
In Arduis Fidelis
Wild Bill Wilder
Independent Game Consultant
Condition of the Museum?
I visited the Ordnance Museum at Aberdeen a couple of years ago while I was stationed in NCA, and was frankly disappointed at the condition of some of the displays. Primarily it was the vehicles left to rot whitewashed on outdoor concrete slabs. I recall there being plans to build a large indoor display area. How goes the fundraising? Anyone know? The indoor displays were excellent; I'd like to see the vehicles as well cared for, instead of slowly rusting.
Even if the rusting Panthers will make you shed a tear, the museum is certainly worth seeing. It was quite an experience to see the divots left in the front armor of the Jagdtiger by 76mm rounds, and realise that some poor sap was probablly s**ting eggrolls while the shells bounced off like spitballs. You can see all the pictures you like, but walking up and touching these machines made it real for me.
Call me a romantic.
Sorry I won't be able to go... I already have all my leave this spring planned out, and I live on the west coast. I only get two weeks a year and, call me crazy, but I'm spending it getting married and going to Hawaii for my honeymoon. I guess I just don't have my priorities straight. Sigh.
Even if the rusting Panthers will make you shed a tear, the museum is certainly worth seeing. It was quite an experience to see the divots left in the front armor of the Jagdtiger by 76mm rounds, and realise that some poor sap was probablly s**ting eggrolls while the shells bounced off like spitballs. You can see all the pictures you like, but walking up and touching these machines made it real for me.
Call me a romantic.
Sorry I won't be able to go... I already have all my leave this spring planned out, and I live on the west coast. I only get two weeks a year and, call me crazy, but I'm spending it getting married and going to Hawaii for my honeymoon. I guess I just don't have my priorities straight. Sigh.