GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

[KamilS]

T49 center/south (German)


This could be my worst turn ever.

I badly underestimated Saper and paid terrible price. Whole Volkov front was nicely herded and now faces annihilation.

River Don that was saved me 2 turns ago will now protect Germans. I can't see the way of breaking this pocket.



Encircled units, overall 240k soldiers

4 Tanks and 2 Cavalry corps
20 Infantry and 2 Mt divisions



One more turn like that and war will be lost.

[KamilS]

T49 center (Soviet)


I managed to undertake few successful attacks here, but nothing really to be proud of.

[KamilS]

T49 center/south (Soviet)


Despite absolute commitment to the task of rescuing surrounded troops I failed miserably.

[KamilS]

T50 center/south (German)



Predictably apart from loosing few encircled divisions not much happened - 30k (3 infantry div, 1 airborne brig)

[KamilS]

T50 center/south (Soviet)


Loosing almost quarter of million soldiers sent ripples across whole front. I was forced to fall back from exposed positions.


Unfortunately German divisions surrounded in Lipetsk fought well.

[KamilS]

T51 center/south (German)


Saper managed to reopen corridor to motorized divisions encircled in Lipetsk.

Destroyed units - 3 infantry divisions and 1 tank corps (29k).

[KamilS]

T51 center/south (Soviet)



Reorganization and adjustments continues.

[KamilS]

T52 far north (German)


I was really surprised by Finish attack.

[KamilS]

T52 center (German)


Steady advance of Saper's forces towards Moscow.

[KamilS]

T52 center/south (German)


Another unpleasant surprise here. 7 more divisions are doomed.

In the meanwhile remnants of big pockets were eliminated - 2 cavalry corps, 3 tank corps, 13 infantry divisions, 2 mountain divisions (162k)

[KamilS]

T52 center (Soviet)


Minor adjustments.

[KamilS]

T52 center/south (Soviet)



Withdrawal.

[KamilS]

T52 south (Soviet)



Panzers appeared near Stalino forcing me to fall-back behind river bend. Reinforcements are on its way.

[KamilS]

T53 center/south (German)


Last turn of mud so Saper is resting his forces.


7 previously encircled infantry divisions were destroyed (52k).

[Harrybanana]

My 2 cents Kamil, I think you are relying too much on the carpet defence. To defend Moscow carpeting with good units is necessary. But elsewhere where he has panzers you should, IMHO, form 3 lines (or even more) leaving generally one space between each line. Your best units, especially your tank corps should be in your rear line where they can be used to hit and run. Of course, where possible, you should make use of the terrain and rivers.

[bigbaba]

i had a similar situation in a game against bomazz but in mid 43.

he encirceld a entire front with more then 500.000 men and in this stage of the war it was the deadly strike for me.

but in mid 42 you still have time to recover. something i simply did't have in my game with such a late date and my opponent deep in russia.

good luck for your defense strategy.

[Flaviusx]

I think Kamil got caught out of position due to the mud, which left him unable to get all his mobile units to the rear. These alternating mud/clear turns are a real pain in the neck.

Fundamentally, his problem is the Red Army just isn't that strong. And it's getting weaker fast.

[Walloc]

Kamil, any chance of losses/oob screen at turn 53/54?

Kind regards,

Rasmus

[KamilS]

Harrybanana

My 2 cents Kamil, I think you are relying too much on the carpet defence. To defend Moscow carpeting with good units is necessary. But elsewhere where he has panzers you should, IMHO, form 3 lines (or even more) leaving generally one space between each line. Your best units, especially your tank corps should be in your rear line where they can be used to hit and run. Of course, where possible, you should make use of the terrain and rivers.

Thank You for advice but I have to say I disagree.

Carpet defence in Moscow area is in my opinion big mistake - I will stand my ground, because hex or two matters there.

Leaving spaces between defense lines while facing concentration of all German panzers is invitation to disaster - more battles and more ground is lost, forming mini-pockets (what Saper likes to do) is easier.

Flaviusx

I think Kamil got caught out of position due to the mud, which left him unable to get all his mobile units to the rear. These alternating mud/clear turns are a real pain in the neck.

Fundamentally, his problem is the Red Army just isn't that strong. And it's getting weaker fast.

That is true.

That is why instead of trying to stop him I will aim to wear his panzers down - they will be targets of my counter-attacks. I will form infantry corps for that purpose when necessary.

Walloc

Kamil, any chance of losses/oob screen at turn 53/54?

Kind regards,

Rasmus

I will include them in next batch of posts

[Walloc]

ORIGINAL: Kamil

Walloc

Kamil, any chance of losses/oob screen at turn 53/54?

Kind regards,

Rasmus

I will include them in next batch of posts

Thx Kamil. Btw could u also include Manpower generated in all until now, please. A picture isnt necesarrily needed u could just type the number.

Kind regards,

Rasmus