Babes Update Question (Closed)

[Puhis]

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It won't show up on Tracker either.

It should show up on Tracker just fine. Simple to add the base to a regions-definition file for Tacker too.

Tracker just reads in what is in the save file. Not sure if it reads the scenario file the first time but I think it does not. The point is that Tracker does not contain its own list of bases, if you add them it will pick them up.

All the additional bases that have already been added in Babes came up on Tracker just fine without any Tracker updates (getting the regions updated is optional so won't stop Tracker from working).

Thank you. That's good to know. We don't use Tracker much so don't know a lot about it. Sorry Tracker people [:'(]

If Mr Catbus is satisfied, then the new Solomons go in as new panel 024. A good time to do it since JWE did a extensive update on size and terrain for all the islands in the Pacific and it makes sense to lump everything together.

Well, I do think that separating Buin and Shortlands make lot of sense. I just had some minor concerns, but it's not a big deal... [;)]

Next game I'm going to use extended map anyway.

[GaryChildress]

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I hope not. If I read the map right, Henderson International is at Lat -9.430S : Long 160.0519.
HF to Ballale (Lat -6.986S : Lon 155.8984) is 531.8 km (287.2 nm)
HF to Poporang (Lat -7.097S : Lon 155.8757) is 527.7 km (284.9 nm)
HF to Buin (Kahili/Kara) (Lat -6.747S : Lon 155.6883) is 564.4 km (304.8 nm)
On the old map Buin/Shortlands to Lunga is 8 hexes (320 nm)
New map Buin to Lunga is still 8 hexes but new Shortlands to Lunga is 7 hexes (280 nm)

Fiddled with the new Shortlands base to make it lousy for AFs. All that was there was the seaplane base at Shortland Harbor on Poporang Is and eventually a 1500’ strip on Ballale Is. Buin base had the AFs (Kahili and Kara). Shortlands starts at AF 1(0) Buin starts at AF 1(3) and both are 80% damaged. It's like somebody cut the grass, but they need work to get them going.
The main AFs at Lunga and Buin are the same distance apart. The only benefit is to Petes and Mavis's [;)]

7 hexes is normal range of Dauntless DBs. Did Dauntless had the range to bomb Shortlands' naval base?

I honestly don't know but Henderson International is on the site of Henderson Field and the Lat/Lon of Poporang is smack in the middle of Shortland Harbor. So if a Dauntless can go 280 nm, it seems logical it can go 285 nm, yes? There wasn't much of a naval bse there but it did have flak. Just don't know.

Isn't normal range of SBD 9?

SBD-3 and SBD-1 are 7 hex, SBD-5 is 9 hex and SBD-6 is 10 hex. SBD-3 would probably be used for the majority of the Guadalcanal scenario. So it would move shortlands within normal range of the SBD-3 from Lunga. I skimmed through some of the action reports here in an effort to find an instance of SBDs attacking the Shortland Islands from Lunga but didn't come up with anything. Saw a few references to B-17 or B-24 raids on shipping in the Shortland area escorted by P-38s and even P-40s (presumably using drop tanks I would think). I'm guessing the raids originated from Lunga, though it didn't say in some of the cases I observed.

[US87891]

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It should show up on Tracker just fine. Simple to add the base to a regions-definition file for Tacker too.

Tracker just reads in what is in the save file. Not sure if it reads the scenario file the first time but I think it does not. The point is that Tracker does not contain its own list of bases, if you add them it will pick them up.

All the additional bases that have already been added in Babes came up on Tracker just fine without any Tracker updates (getting the regions updated is optional so won't stop Tracker from working).

Thank you. That's good to know. We don't use Tracker much so don't know a lot about it. Sorry Tracker people [:'(]

If Mr Catbus is satisfied, then the new Solomons go in as new panel 024. A good time to do it since JWE did a extensive update on size and terrain for all the islands in the Pacific and it makes sense to lump everything together.

Well, I do think that separating Buin and Shortlands make lot of sense. I just had some minor concerns, but it's not a big deal... [;)]

Next game I'm going to use extended map anyway.

Mr Catbus seems to think it is okay, and there are no other outstanding issues, so in it goes.

Thank you all for the useful feedback. Update is set. Thread is now closed.

Matt