Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, Docup(A)-Koniu(J)

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[koniu]

29 Oct 42

Marshals - ouch!

Invasion start like planed but end was not.

Invasion start with interception of cargo ships unloading probably supplies in Wotje

Night Time Surface Combat, near Wotje at 135,115, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DMS W-20
DMS W-21
DMS W-22

Allied Ships
xAK Mahukona, Shell hits 4, on fire

After that BB start to bombard island

Night Naval bombardment of Wotje at 135,115 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-4 Catalina: 5 damaged
PBY-4 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground
P-39D Airacobra: 5 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed on ground
P-40E Warhawk: 10 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed on ground
P-40K Warhawk: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Fuso
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato
DD Hakaze
DD Okikaze
DD Mochizuki
DD Fumizuki

Allied ground losses:
148 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 32 (15 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Vehicles lost 22 (13 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 12

Night end on that
On morning one of SC TF intercept more cargo sips

Day Time Surface Combat, near Maloelap at 137,115, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Chikuma, Shell hits 1
DD Urakaze
DD Hatsuharu
DD Nenohi
DD Hatsushima

Allied Ships
xAK Admiral Cole, Shell hits 32, and is sunk
xAK Admiral Day, Shell hits 27, and is sunk
xAK Admiral Nulton, Shell hits 16, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK West Camargo, Shell hits 21, and is sunk

From that point things start to be worst

KB decide to attack AF, ports of Wotje and Maeloap. Secondary target was not on rest. Only one units decide to attack allied destroyers running from Wotje damaging only one.

Few moments later DD Arare hit mine. Will survive.

Another bad news. LBA bombers not fly becouse of wheter so no air raind on nemy troops on island. Also Cruisers ordered to bombard at day not manage to sail 5 hexes and not bombard before battle start.


And now what make me cry

Ground combat at Wotje (135,115)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 13196 troops, 126 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 453

Defending force 6616 troops, 73 guns, 228 vehicles, Assault Value = 189

Japanese adjusted assault: 0

Allied adjusted defense: 36

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(-), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
6123 casualties reported
Squads: 384 destroyed, 71 disabled
Non Combat: 54 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 53 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 69 (63 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
28th Division

Defending units:
138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion
297th Infantry/ 1st Battalion
54th Coastal Artillery Regiment
220th USN Base Force

I was not suspecting TANKS there

[koniu]

I don know why my troops have adjusted AV "0" they have 100% preparations.
There was no havy coastal defense at all(only 35 shots fired). Only 200 troops lost during unloading and 8 squads disabled.
They have around 8000 supplies during attack.
I even get "leaders(-)" and i was using good commander

Now my questions. 28th ID capture beachhead on Wotje. Those troops have no cambat capability now (35AV left) but i have another ID ready to land tomorrow.

Does landing that second ID will force another shock attack or i can land hopping to survive Docup counterattack tomorrow them and evacuate remnants of 28 ID?.

Or it will be better to retreat what left from 28ID and return home.

Docup troops alno not looking good with adjusted AV 36.

Need fast answer

PS. I think i will be capable to land 3/4 maybe more of that new ID tomorrow.
Some ships will have only day unloading phase because TF retreat from surface threat and is now 4 hexes from Wotje. I can split it and faster ships will start unloading at night and rest will join unloading on morning

I have also Cruiser to bombard island so his troops will take more damage also. Maybe my planes will fly also.

Koniu

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OUCH!!! [&:]

I'm not sure why that was so incredibly horrible. AV 0? WTF?

I really wish i could help you on this one but I'm as baffled as you are by the results. I would have thought you would be about half strength and knock the forts down to 1. Now it looks bad to land another and get the same, although there could be some fatigue on his troops after the battle and the bombardments which might help. (Looks like I need to do some atoll landing tests before I try something like this.)

I'm sorry I can't offer more. It's gutting to see that happen after all of those preparations. I hope someone else adds some good sound advice on what to do. But if it takes a while I would just wait and not do the turn for a bit.

[koniu]

ORIGINAL: obvert

OUCH!!! [&:]

I'm not sure why that was so incredibly horrible. AV 0? WTF?

I really wish i could help you on this one but I'm as baffled as you are by the results. I would have thought you would be about half strength and knock the forts down to 1. Now it looks bad to land another and get the same, although there could be some fatigue on his troops after the battle and the bombardments which might help. (Looks like I need to do some atoll landing tests before I try something like this.)

I'm sorry I can't offer more. It's gutting to see that happen after all of those preparations. I hope someone else adds some good sound advice on what to do. But if it takes a while I would just wait and not do the turn for a bit.

I know it was not perfect atoll attack but result look like i was landing totally unprepared.

biggest question is. Do another landing will force shock attack when i have beachhead.Logic say no but game engine can have different opinion.

And even if I do not shock if will be able to take island with that new ID.


For sure i can handle losing those two ID. They going to be out of action for long time but until i will not lose something important on sea i will be ok, but i need to be sure about next shock attack will not happen.

[GreyJoy]

Can't explain it... with 100 prep and against these "weak" forces you should have achieved something more... seems like landing a whole division wasn't the right decision...(stacking limit) however you should have had a supply problem with the stacking limit violation and for sure not a result like that...
 
sorry for you mate...[:(]

[koniu]

Thanks guys for support and help.

I taking back 28ID. I think i will be able to load all my boys before day counterattack.
28th ID will travel for long vacation to Tokyo. They should be ready to fight again in six months maybe. Second wave is returning home.

KB will give air cover to ships in wotje hex. I am sending all planes in air tomorrow.



But it is not over i still want those islands back. I will only change tactic. More air attack and naval bombardment before landing and better balanced invasion force with tanks and combat engineers. Everyday I am learning more.

There are much worst thing that can happen to me in that war

Time to return home, many letters with digital condolences to write


EDIT: I was exchanging emails with docup about todays invasion. He told me that he knew about preparation to invade from more than month.That mean only one. No major invasion can be done by Japan without knowledge of Allies. It su**s.

I am not planing any new now but knowing that allies are able to sooner or later have any knowledge about your plans is bad news. Especialy when i compare this to "heavy radio traffic in Pearl Harbor"

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: koniu

EDIT: I was exchanging emails with docup about todays invasion. He told me that he knew about preparation to invade from more than month.That mean only one. No major invasion can be done by Japan without knowledge of Allies. It su**s.

I am not planing any new now but knowing that allies are able to sooner or later have any knowledge about your plans is bad news. Especialy when i compare this to "heavy radio traffic in Pearl Harbor"

Yep, this is accurate if you have ever played the allied side. If they take time to work through all of their intel, they know everything you are planning as soon as you start it.

IF you had followed up with the 2nd ID, it would have shocked as well.

I have NO idea why you ended up with 0 AV. Were the troop embarked on the ships for a long time? Troops lose effectiveness after so many days (I forget the number, but it is in the manual and it isn't that big. like 5 or so.

[Crackaces]

I can say I landed whole Allied divisions on each of the islands n the Marshals without these kinds of results ..

It is exteremly important in my opinion to land on the first phase, get everything off all at once, and then shock. I would load a US division on 16 AP's as to ensure everything was off the boats ...

After blasting the forces off the atoll then APD can remove people to get the stacking back to size ..

So I am not thinking that overstacking for one day is at the root of this disaster ... rather extremly disrupted forces that could not carry the fight off the beaches ..

[koniu]

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

I can say I landed whole Allied divisions on each of the islands n the Marshals without these kinds of results ..

It is exteremly important in my opinion to land on the first phase, get everything off all at once, and then shock. I would load a US division on 16 AP's as to ensure everything was off the boats ...

After blasting the forces off the atoll then APD can remove people to get the stacking back to size ..

So I am not thinking that overstacking for one day is at the root of this disaster ... rather extremly disrupted forces that could not carry the fight off the beaches ..

I have landed in one day with entire ID. Probably 90% or more of troops unload at night phase. I have entire division loaded on almost 50 AK ships I even manage to unload 8000+ supplies before attack.

Bad luck and my mistakes with pre-invasion preparations i think. (lack of bombardment, no tank and combat engineers for support.

[koniu]

I have NO idea why you ended up with 0 AV. Were the troop embarked on the ships for a long time? Troops lose effectiveness after so many days (I forget the number, but it is in the manual and it isn't that big. like 5 or so.

4 days maybe 5 max i think. To do that faster i will have to load troop on Marshals. Pacific is big. Even with max speed ships have to sail 3 day from load point to Wotje
I had check my save before landing and disruption of units was between 2 to 10 on different ships. On few only i have seen disruption 15-20 but in total it was no more that 50 squads(combat and support) So i do not think preinvasion disruption was bigger than 10% average. Fatigue also was low.

Maybe it will make Docup feel safe and i will have chance for few more actions like sunking his four BB. Who knows

PS. I do not know but 28th probably tomorrow will shock again if my ships manage to load them fast enough i forgot to check "do not unload" option so there is small chance that they will land again.[:'(] In worst case i will safe fuel because i will not need transport them to Japan.

[koniu]

30 Oct 42

North of Borneo
Another TK lost. More ASW air groups send to patrol area but so far they not perform good.

Marshals
28th ID load on ships but because of my mistake with settings they unload again on Wotje triggering another shock attack 100 more (squads destroyed)

Allied DB escorted by P-40 attack invasion TF in Wotje hex. Japanese planes from near AF and KB intercept them. 4 P-40 and 8 SBD-3 shot down. They damage two cargo ships but damages are minimal. No loses on Japanese side.

31 OCT 42

Marshals
28 finally loaded on ships and sailing toward Truk. KB undetected slowly sailing toward Truk.

China
50 P-38 sweep Wuchang. Around 40 Japanese fighters engage them. 27 planes lost(6 pilots KIA) for only 3 P-38. My mistake they should CAP above Hankow but i give them range 1 and i was caught in fight without superior numbers on my side.

Air Production
A6M5 and Ki-43IIa enter production
Ki-44IIC advance to 7/43
A6M5c advance to 7/44

[koniu]

Vary bad news from Tokyo.

Only PC in hands of Empire of Japan die Today. Probably VGA card.
It was 6 years old PC still using AGP for graphic so i will need buy new PC as i not want invest $ to that old crap. They or not producing components fitting for him from years anyway.

So probably game is stooped for at lest that weekend or probably next week to. It will depends when i found money to buy new PC.

I will need to buy new mainboard, CPU, RAM and VGA card. Rest of components i will use from old one computer becouse they are good.
If any one have some knowledge about what i should buy i will really appreciate help.
My $ reserve is around 300$

Very sad days

koniu

[inqistor]

Most (if not all) mainboards nowadays have build-in graphic card, and they have no problem with running WITPAE (and also software 3D).

I had similar problem like 2 years ago, but even build-in graphic was better, than the old AGP I had [:D]


So, you would only need mainboard, CPU, and RAM (unless you find mainboard, which supports older RAM somehow)

[JocMeister]

Do NOT buy a Mainboard with integrated VGA card! It will only lead to a lot of frustration and crying.

Also its a hassle matching the right memories and CPU with the correct mainboard. But many online stores will sell them in a "package" ensuring you get the correct components! Cheers.

[koniu]

i arleady have components.
I have decide to buy
AMD Athlon II x4 CPU 3.2GHz (i will have it for maney that normaly I will pay for x2)
4 GB 1333MHz DDR3 RAM
Asus mainboard
GeForce GTS 450 512MB DDR5

becouse I get nice discount it will cost me 250$

from old PC I will use HDD, case, DVD and power suply

[JocMeister]

How many Watts are you power supply? You will probably need a minimum of 400-450W depending on number of HDDs and stuff. 4GB of RAM is a bit on the low side these days but I guess you can always by more when you get more money! [:)]

But it sure sounds like you got a very good deal on the parts! I found a similar package with 8GB RAM but that didn´t include the GFX card!

[koniu]

I have Chieftec GPS-550AB-A 550W power supply

later I will buy another 4GB RAM but now I not have money

[koniu]

Still waiting for parts for PC. ETA is today afternoon. I will need one more day to install everything. I planing to return to game in this weekend, maybe in Friday.

I make one change in configuration. For extra 10$ i change MB to gigabyte model with AM3+ socket, 16GB ram support and ATA/133 support.
Asus model was AM3 only 8GB RAM max and without ATA/133. Without ATA/133 i was forced to buy new DVD drive now i do not have to.

I hope i will be happy with that new PC and WITPAE will work perfectly.


PS. I have not expecting that not having PC is so difficult. First two days i have problem to finding something to do. I almost not watching TV so PC and Internet was my only source of information. I cant watch my TV show now, I cant read news, i cant play WITPAE.
I am addicted from Internet and WITPAE. I neeed help .

koniu

[koniu]

I back.

I need to reinstall WIPAE. What files i need to copy from old installation to save all important files.

Right now i copy Save and Art directory. Should i copy something more