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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A)

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[font="Times New Roman"]13 March 1942[/font]
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Today something finally to really cheer about! The shock to Siangtan crushed the Chinese and took the city! Banzai!!![:D]

[font="Verdana"]CHINA: [/font] The shock got an 8:1 and routed the Chinese. This will make it tough for Torsten to hold any of the central Chinese bases, and I can most likely pick them off one at a time. His best bet might be to retreat to better defensive ground to set up his next LOD, but for now at least he appears to be still moving troops to Siangtan from Changsha and Henyang. If he comes to fight more I'll be happy, as my troops have virtually no disruption or fatigue. Supply will be the only issue. I'm pouring more into both Canton and Shanghai in the next few days.

At Changsha IJA troops bombarded and found that we're outnumbered, but only slightly. I'll keep bombarding to slow his movement and hopefully disable some troops before they move to Siangtan. I'll not attack here unless I can afford to move in 2:1 raw AV. I'll most likely work on Henyang first, which is better terrain for me.

[font="Verdana"]DEI: [/font] A few Hawks took out one Betty near Batavia as they bombed retreating Dutch troops. Sweeps and escorts will go tomorrow. At Palembang our arty today did better, and the Allied BA was less effective. We have twice as many guns in the hex now, so should start to take control of this engagement.

[font="Verdana"]PI: [/font] Bombardments at Clark result in destroyed Japanese vehicles. Still very outnumbered here, and they appear to have good supply.

[font="Verdana"]BURMA: [/font] Adding to our list of blockade runners, Lilys hit an xAK near Rangoon today. It may not sink but the fires should at the least reduce its cargo.

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Afternoon Air attack on KNIL Army Command , at 49,99 , near Batavia

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 16

Allied aircraft
75A-7 Hawk x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
1-Vl.G.IV with 75A-7 Hawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 54,53

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 15



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Coquina, Bomb hits 1, on fire



Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 100 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Coquina


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Ground combat at 55,103 (near Soerabaja)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 960 troops, 0 guns, 144 vehicles, Assault Value = 81

Defending force 3440 troops, 7 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 24

Japanese adjusted assault: 38

Allied adjusted defense: 28

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(-), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)


Allied ground losses:
231 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 22 destroyed, 36 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
8th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
Madion Base Force
MLD
Commandement Marine
Djojakarta Base Force
Soerabaja Base Force


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Ground combat at Changsha (82,52)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 62985 troops, 521 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 2264

Defending force 97009 troops, 596 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3180

Japanese ground losses:
50 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
40th Division
6th Division
3rd Division
57th Infantry Brigade
34th Division
12th Ind.Mixed Brigade
11th Army
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion

Defending units:
73rd Chinese Corps
99th Chinese Corps
100th Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
37th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
58th Chinese Corps
46th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
22nd Artillery Regiment
1st Artillery Regiment
20th Artillery Regiment
9th War Area
19th Group Army
18th Artillery Regiment
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment
23rd Group Army
32nd Group Army
27th Group Army
25th Group Army
17th Chinese Base Force
7th Artillery Regiment
29th Group Army
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment

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Ground combat at Siangtan (81,52)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 75664 troops, 645 guns, 168 vehicles, Assault Value = 2758

Defending force 23497 troops, 177 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 884

Japanese adjusted assault: 2288

Allied adjusted defense: 277

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Siangtan !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
5223 casualties reported
Squads: 77 destroyed, 272 disabled

Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Guns lost 30 (2 destroyed, 28 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
10571 casualties reported
Squads: 265 destroyed, 143 disabled
Non Combat: 326 destroyed, 92 disabled
Engineers: 167 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 67 (60 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Units retreated 8


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
104th Division
102nd Infantry Regiment
116th Division
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
17th Division
39th Division
22nd Division
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
9th Prov Chinese Corps
5th Construction Regiment
16th Construction Regiment
65th Chinese Corps
6th Construction Regiment
45th Chinese Corps
55th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese/C Corps


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35808 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1016

Defending force 25792 troops, 356 guns, 149 vehicles, Assault Value = 865


Allied ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 30 disabled

Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1275 troops, 92 guns, 93 vehicles, Assault Value = 1044

Defending force 61658 troops, 842 guns, 758 vehicles, Assault Value = 2239

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 21925 troops, 264 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 838

Defending force 35808 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1016

Japanese ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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[font="Trebuchet MS"]The Coquina, or Cynthia Olsen, as she was renamed in the first months of the war. She was sunk carrying lumber from Seattle by I-26 during the war in the deep Pacific. [/font]
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A)

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[font="Times New Roman"]14 March 1942[/font]
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[font="Verdana"]DEI: [/font] Oscars take care of a few Hawks near Batavia. Nells crush two lone xAKL doing sneaky things South of Java.

[font="Verdana"]CHINA: [/font] The first sight of Chinese bombers in months today as 5 Hudsons try to hit our tanks near Sian. No luck.

At Siangtan our supply jumps to 5k quickly, and the Chinese are still marching toward the base. He'd have to have 5k AV to kick us out at this point. At least one and maybe two forts will be built by the time any concerted attack arrives. Looking forward to this!

[font="Verdana"]BURMA: [/font] The Chinese have moved into our Forest hex in Burma. The shock will come soon no doubt. Supply is still being flown in and all units are now out of the red.

I've got two more para units preparing for a jump on Bassein soon. I'm waiting to get the transports freed from flying supply and a few more added in so that a regiment can be flown in after in 4-5 days. If I can pull that off and hold the forest hex I might be able to keep the main forces of Allied units away from Rangoon long enough to fly in troops and walk in to take it. He can't have more than 120-50 AV there now with one main force caught in Moulmein, and another trying to get my units off of the rail in the center.

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Afternoon Air attack on KNIL Army Command , at 49,99 , near Batavia

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
75A-7 Hawk x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
75A-7 Hawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar sweeping at 15000 feet

CAP engaged:
1-Vl.G.IV with 75A-7 Hawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Djokjakarta at 51,106

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 10
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 15


No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Duijmar van Twist, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tjilatjap at 50,103

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 4 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
G3M2 Nell x 9
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14


No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL De Haan, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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[font="Trebuchet MS"]The tanks could prove the difference in the streets of Siangtan.[/font]
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[font="Times New Roman"]15 March 1942[/font]
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[font="Verdana"]DEI: [/font] Walking to Palembang and Batavia. Preparing to invade Lautern.

[font="Verdana"]CHINA: [/font] Troops still seem to be moving to Siangtan fro moth Henyang and Changsha. Holding my breath as bobbing hits the troops to potentially slow them and disrupt those that might shock from Changsha. It'll be interesting. Menawhile near Sian I've stopped faking movement into the city, but that 'showing' of movement seems to have led Torsten to pull back some of his troops on the gray road forming the blockade. He still has greater numbers, but if he takes out any more I could be able to DA within a few weeks once reinforcements arrive.

[font="Verdana"]BURMA: [/font] The Burma troops hold! The 66th Chinese Corps attacks our fragments in the woods and only gets a 1:3 adjustment, resulting in major disablements for the Chinese. This is a fantastic result! It should mean there is time now for a little rolling of the dice. [:)]

Troops in Semarang and Soerabaja prepare to get aboard amphibious TFs bound for Burma. I've made a choice. I will attempt one landing while I have the bonus; at Rangoon! Recon shows good Allied numbers (22k) at Chittagong, and without a fully dominant KB I would feel out on a limb over there. At least I have two elite LBA zeros groups plus two Netty groups near Burma and several other IJAAF groups in range for extra CAP and strike forces should Allied CVs intercept. The KB as it stands should be able to hold it's own now against up to 3 US CVs and a British or two, but I don't want to just hold my own. If we trade, it's a loss for the IJN, especially in this game.

Still, Burma is too important, and a landing at Rangoon could create a dominant Japanese position there, potentially trapping troops at Moulmein and supporting the troops in the center. The goal would be to wreck the large Chinese units as well, leaving the mountain approaches potentially vulnerable. It's a gamble, but the benefits are valuable enough to outweigh the risk. The landings will be pushing the deadline, so I may have to go flank speed for th a last few days to get everything there. The KB and all SCTFs are moving to Singapore to begin preparations.

[font="Verdana"]MALAYA:[/font] Singapore is a hub of bustling activity as hundreds of ships come together to support Operation Python.
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Ground combat at Changsha (82,52)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 62970 troops, 521 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 2262

Defending force 97043 troops, 596 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3188

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35835 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1010

Defending force 25448 troops, 353 guns, 149 vehicles, Assault Value = 833

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
357 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 24 disabled

Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (3 destroyed, 5 disabled)

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 21537 troops, 259 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 799

Defending force 35816 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1008

Japanese ground losses:
152 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 38 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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Ground combat at Moulmein (55,55)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22773 troops, 350 guns, 226 vehicles, Assault Value = 1101

Defending force 21045 troops, 186 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 925

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
18th British Division
BFF Brigade
Rangoon BAF Battalion
45th Indian Brigade
2/3rd MG Battalion
17th Indian Division
108th RAF Base Force
107th RAF Base Force
Burma Corps
85th British AT Gun Regiment

Defending units:
2nd RTA Division
4th RTA Division
3rd RTA Division
6th RTA Division
7th RTA Division

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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 85623 troops, 602 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3362

Defending force 88251 troops, 845 guns, 323 vehicles, Assault Value = 2745

Japanese ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
93rd Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps
57th Chinese Corps
47th Chinese Corps
80th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese Cavalry Corps
42nd Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Corps
33rd Chinese Corps
96th Chinese Corps
8th Route Army
76th Chinese Corps
5th New Chinese Corps
Jingcha War Area
4th Group Army
39th Group Army
57th AT Gun Regiment
1st War Area
56th AT Gun Regiment

Defending units:
110th Division
35th Division
8th Ind.Mixed Brigade
37th Division
7th Ind.Mixed Brigade
32nd Division
13th Division
6th Ind.Mixed Brigade
58th Infantry Regiment
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
4th Mortar Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Army
12th Army
13th Army
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Field Artillery Regiment

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Ground combat at 57,49 (near Toungoo)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11285 troops, 96 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 410

Defending force 4751 troops, 72 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 191

Allied adjusted assault: 144

Japanese adjusted defense: 545

Allied assault odds: 1 to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-) ???

Japanese ground losses:
151 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Allied ground losses:
713 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 105 disabled
[:D]
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled

Assaulting units:
66th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
1st Raiding Regiment
91st Naval Guard Unit
21st Div /1

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[font="Trebuchet MS"]Artillery is key to this particular game. I could use some more in China for sure. I may have to think about finding cheap units to buy out from Manchuria. [/font]
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[font="Times New Roman"]13 March 1942[/font]
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Today something finally to really cheer about! The shock to Siangtan crushed the Chinese and took the city! Banzai!!![:D]

[font="Verdana"]CHINA: [/font] The shock got an 8:1 and routed the Chinese. This will make it tough for Torsten to hold any of the central Chinese bases, and I can most likely pick them off one at a time. His best bet might be to retreat to better defensive ground to set up his next LOD, but for now at least he appears to be still moving troops to Siangtan from Changsha and Henyang. If he comes to fight more I'll be happy, as my troops have virtually no disruption or fatigue. Supply will be the only issue. I'm pouring more into both Canton and Shanghai in the next few days.

Great news, and well done!! That will give him something to mull over!!

Can you divulge any information about 'Operation Python'?
Or is it still a secret squirrel op?


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Can you divulge any information about 'Operation Python'?
Or is it still a secret squirrel op?

It's just the above mentioned invasion of Burma by Sea. I guess I didn't make that clear at the end of the report.

Encirclement. Constriction. Suffocation.

(That is if the snake makes it out of the water. A big if!)
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[font="Times New Roman"]16 March 1942[/font]
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[font="Verdana"]DEI: [/font] A BA will go at Batavia tomorrow. I've got a division and a Naval Guard here. The Allied AV at Palembang continues to plummet. Although not fast enough.

[font="Verdana"]CHINA: [/font] The suply situation in Siangtan is good now. About 5k of supply, forts building, and trios looking fresh and ready. He's still showing movement from Changsha and Henyang, but nothing has come into the hex yet. I'm bombing those units warily, as I haven't seen the AVG in a while and it's about time for them to jump.

[font="Verdana"]PACIFIC: [/font] A bunch of construction units have arrived down here, so now I have to go on a dot base spree with a few small SNLF Coy. I'll use all fast transport for these in case the Allies get frisky.

[font="Verdana"]BURMA: [/font] The troops in the woods look to be able to hold for the time. His raw AV from the big Chinese unit dropped from 410 to 324 today after the failed attack in the hex. We went from 191 to 179. If these units can build a fort, it could be a long siege here and he'll have to bring more to get the hex.

In two days I'll para-drop on Bassein if the coast is still clear. I have enough in the area now to quickly fly in a bunch of troops. In addition to the regiment that will hold the hex, I'll send a small construction unit and an AF Coy. CAP will be key here if Operation Python goes forward and needs more cover at Rangoon.

[font="Verdana"]MALAYA:[/font] Stil loading troops and simultaneously taking supply from the HI and fuel from Miri. It's busy right now a Singapore. Good air cover is provided by two big Oscar groups just in case. I don't trust that Torsten's air strength is exhausted in the DEI or that even the CVs couldn't come waltzing from across Sumatra to take a shot.

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35664 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 994

Defending force 25040 troops, 349 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 804


Allied ground losses:
224 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 27 disabled

Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (4 destroyed, 2 disabled)

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Ground combat at 57,49 (near Toungoo)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10602 troops, 96 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 324 He's dropped nearly 100 AV after his DA! [8D]

Defending force 4640 troops, 72 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 179


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
66th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
1st Raiding Regiment
91st Naval Guard Unit
21st Div /1

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[font="Times New Roman"]17 March 1942[/font]
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[font="Verdana"]DEI: [/font] I lost an xAK bringing supplies to Palembang. The CD guns there are still working fine. At Batavia the BA gives enough info to see that the base should fall soon. A DA will follow now.

[font="Verdana"]CHINA: [/font] A Corps from Changsha moves into Siangtan, but because the units from Henyang were only just arriving that turn, it shocks into the base against 2500 AV IJA troops. Needless to say that didn't turn out well for the Chinese. Over 400 infantry squads were destroyed. Torsten said he thought they shouldn't have shocked because the other troops from Henyang were in the hex, but maybe it is because they just moved in this turn and weren't established there. Anyway, this should lessen the likelihood of an attack on the base right now. The Chinese do outnumber us there, but not by enough, and tomorrow at least one fort will be ready.

Near Sian enough troops have moved fro mthe blockade that in about a week I should be able to begin trying to push them back.
[font="Verdana"]BURMA: [/font] The small group of 4Es that Torsten has in India is bombing the troops in the woods, but hasn't had much effect. Tomorrow another para-drop is set to go landing at Bassein. Looks like just a rifle battalion there.

[font="Verdana"]MALAYA:[/font] Troops are embarking for Sumatra, hitting the base near Medan, then walking up there. They should land tomorrow. The KB is at Singapore refueling and taking on more zeros. I should have all groups maxed in a few days.
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Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 57,49 , near Toungoo

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 16000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Ground combat at Changsha (82,52)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 62907 troops, 521 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 2255

Defending force 65274 troops, 345 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2276

Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
34th Division
57th Infantry Brigade
40th Division
6th Division
3rd Division
12th Ind.Mixed Brigade
11th Army
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion

Defending units:
87th Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
58th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
85th Chinese Corps
73rd Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
37th Chinese Corps
100th Chinese Corps
17th Chinese Base Force

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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 82160 troops, 845 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 2763

Defending force 62022 troops, 369 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2252

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
13th Division
35th Division
7th Ind.Mixed Brigade
110th Division
32nd Division
37th Division
6th Ind.Mixed Brigade
8th Ind.Mixed Brigade
58th Infantry Regiment
1st Army
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
12th Army
13th Army
4th Mortar Battalion
1st Mortar Battalion
11th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
42nd Chinese Corps
8th Route Army
38th Chinese Corps
80th Chinese Corps
96th Chinese Corps
47th Chinese Corps
33rd Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps
93rd Chinese Corps
5th New Chinese Corps
1st War Area
4th Group Army
Jingcha War Area
39th Group Army


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35783 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1006

Defending force 24834 troops, 348 guns, 145 vehicles, Assault Value = 781


Allied ground losses:
259 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 15 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Ground combat at Batavia (49,98)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15289 troops, 136 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 536

Defending force 9191 troops, 77 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 116


Assaulting units:
38th Division
53rd Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
Roodenburg Battalion
Afdeling Ritman
Tjilatjap KNIL Bn /2
Merak Base Force
KNIL Army Command
3rd KNIL AA Battalion
1st KNIL Landstorm Battalion
ML-KNIL
Kalidjati Base Force
Bandoeng Base Force
Semarang Base Force
Loemafjang Base Force
1 ML-KNIL Aviation
ABDA
Batavia Base Force
Malang Base Force

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Ground combat at Siangtan (81,52)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 10608 troops, 178 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3536

Defending force 73661 troops, 644 guns, 290 vehicles, Assault Value = 2590

Allied adjusted assault: 0

Japanese adjusted defense: 2522

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
142 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
5249 casualties reported
Squads: 436 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 312 disabled
Engineers: 27 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 29 (18 destroyed, 11 disabled)



Assaulting units:
2nd Chinese Corps
46th Chinese Corps
25th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
99th Chinese Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese/B Corps
45th Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
30th Chinese Corps
55th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese/C Corps
1st Artillery Regiment
29th Group Army
7th Artillery Regiment
18th Artillery Regiment
25th Group Army
9th War Area
23rd Group Army
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment
19th Group Army
3rd War Area
20th Artillery Regiment
7th War Area
27th Group Army
12th Group Army
22nd Artillery Regiment
32nd Group Army
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment

Defending units:
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
17th Division
102nd Infantry Regiment
8th Armored Car Co
22nd Division
39th Division
116th Division
104th Division
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion

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Ground combat at 57,49 (near Toungoo)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10604 troops, 96 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 334

Defending force 4690 troops, 72 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 185

Assaulting units:
B Sqn 3rd Hussars Regiment
66th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
1st Raiding Regiment
91st Naval Guard Unit
21st Div /1

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China is getting interesting.

Near Sian Torsten has moved about half of his Corps back to the city to protect against the feinted shock attack I'm threatening. I am letting these troops get neary there before I stop them, so if he does move these forces back I will let mine go in. On the roadblock hex I'm bringing in two Brigades and a regiment to give me nearly double his current raw AV. His forces are dug in and have a lot of HQs present, so this could get bloody. I think I can wear them down though.

In Siangtan the IJA troops are happily waiting. There are a few more reinforcements about to arrive, a brigade and another tank unit. In Changsha I have 2200 AV and I won't attack unless he moves most of his troops out. I might even shift one division around to Siangtan. The Changsha hex is controlled on three sides by my troops, so there is an advantage from these interior lines. I'm sure it also helps the supply flow from the central bases.

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A fascinating game of chicken seems to be developing around Siangtan!!

Who will blink first?

It looks like you have him on the back foot though.

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Another division is moving to Palembang, but the going is slow. Once it arrives I'll most likely split it and move in from all sides, closing the hex. His bombardments are still having an effect on my troops, but the IJA AV stays around 1000, while that of the Dutch troops falls about 20 points a day, now at around 780.

Batavia and Tilityap are still left on Java. Koepang has 6k troops and will be invaded soon. Medan is empty and we'll be walking there and beyond to Sabang. After that I'll start taking a look at North OZ, assuming I have CVs to use after Operation Python in Burma.

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[font="Times New Roman"]NEW GUINEA and SOLOMON ISLANDS[/font]
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Just building over here. Nothing much is happening. Port Moresby will be a bear if I do decide to invade later. Right now it's not an option.

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[font="Times New Roman"]18 March 1942[/font]
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[font="Verdana"]BURMA: [/font] The para-assault at Bassein went smoothly. The Yokosuka 1st SNLF and the 2nd Raiding Rgt took the base easily. Now for the big Bassein Airlift. [;)]

[font="Verdana"]DEI: [/font] Tandjoengbalai is landed. Nothing is here, so after taking the base these troops will walk up to Medan and eventually Sabang. At Batavia troops got a 1:1 and lowered forts to 2. It'll keep going tomorrow.

[font="Verdana"]CHINA: [/font] Nothing new no the ground today. A few more units from Changsha made it into Siangtan, bringing the AV in Changsha to only 2280. With this good defensive terrain though no attacks yet. I would estimate the AV in Siangtan now at about 4-4.5k AV. Forts there went to level 1 and are now building rapidly.

In the air virtually the entire IJAAF in China is aimed at troops besieging Siangtan. None of them flew due to weather. Frustration.
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Amphibious Assault at Tandjoengbalai (47,78)

TF 16 troops unloading over beach at Tandjoengbalai, 47,78

Japanese ground losses:
55 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled

Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


10 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 112th Infantry Rgt
Motorized Support lost in surf during unload of 15th JAAF Base Force
18 troops of a IJA Engineer Squad lost in surf during unload of 55th Engr Rgt
18 troops of a IJA Engineer Squad lost overboard during unload of 55th Engr Rgt
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 112th Infantry Rgt /2
10 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 112th Infantry Rgt /2


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Ground combat at 55,103 (near Soerabaja)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 960 troops, 0 guns, 144 vehicles, Assault Value = 78

Defending force 2151 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11

Japanese adjusted assault: 31

Allied adjusted defense: 4

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(-), disruption(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 2 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
8th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
Commandement Marine
MLD
Soerabaja Base Force


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Ground combat at Changsha (82,52)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 62916 troops, 521 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 2257

Defending force 65308 troops, 345 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2280

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
34th Division
40th Division
3rd Division
57th Infantry Brigade
6th Division
12th Ind.Mixed Brigade
11th Army
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion

Defending units: (No HQs. Could be telling later)
87th Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
73rd Chinese Corps
85th Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
37th Chinese Corps
58th Chinese Corps
100th Chinese Corps
17th Chinese Base Force


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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 82298 troops, 845 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 2779

Defending force 62026 troops, 369 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2247

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35885 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1014

Defending force 24665 troops, 348 guns, 145 vehicles, Assault Value = 768


Allied ground losses:
256 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 26 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Ground combat at Batavia (49,98)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15332 troops, 136 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 539

Defending force 9237 troops, 77 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 118

Japanese adjusted assault: 423

Allied adjusted defense: 223

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
209 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 48 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Allied ground losses:
495 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)



Assaulting units:
38th Division
53rd Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
Roodenburg Battalion
Afdeling Ritman
Tjilatjap KNIL Bn /2
1st KNIL Landstorm Battalion
KNIL Army Command
ABDA
1 ML-KNIL Aviation
Loemafjang Base Force
3rd KNIL AA Battalion
Batavia Base Force
Semarang Base Force
ML-KNIL
Bandoeng Base Force
Merak Base Force
Kalidjati Base Force
Malang Base Force

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Ground combat at 47,93 (near Praboemoelih)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 13454 troops, 123 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 476

Defending force 837 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 445

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 445 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), leaders(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
617 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 47 destroyed, 72 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1
Units destroyed 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
5th Division

Defending units:
2 ML-KNIL Aviation
ML-KNIL /1


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Ground combat at 57,49 (near Toungoo)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10606 troops, 96 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 338

Defending force 4753 troops, 72 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 191



Assaulting units:
B Sqn 3rd Hussars Regiment
66th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
91st Naval Guard Unit
1st Raiding Regiment
21st Div /1


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Ground combat at Bassein (54,52)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 811 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 56

Defending force 389 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Japanese adjusted assault: 38

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 38 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bassein !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Units retreated 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
Yokosuka 1st SNLF /1
2nd Raiding Rgt /1

Defending units:
6th Burma Rifles Battalion


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[font="Trebuchet MS"]I'm really enjoying the paratroops this game. There seem a lot of opportunities to use them effectively to get behind enemy lines i the opening stages. [/font]
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[font="Verdana"]CHINA: [/font] The Chinese attacked!! [&o]

Torsten is aggressive. This is known. Today that didn't turn out well. The big stack worth almost 3900 AV with independent artillery and a ton of HQs launched a DA today at Siangtan getting a 1:3 result. The IJA had managed to raise forts to level 2, and that was not good for the KMT. Almost 500 infantry squads were destroyed outright, and another 549 disabled. Our troops lost almost 200 infantry squads disabled, but still have good supply and only moderate fatigue/disruption.

Tomorrow will not be pretty. I will SA here and the Chinese could very well have this stack decimated completely. It was good that the IJAAF bombardment also arrived in full force today. I'm sure that helped kick things off. Tomorrow I will tone that down, flying mostly Lilys to give a little extra, but I'm wary that Torsten will bring in the AVG to try to save something here.

It should be a fun day! [:)]

[font="Verdana"]DEI: [/font] Batavia lost another fort, but our troops are taking some disablements. I might sit for a day to get fatigue/disruption levels down, bomb the base, and go again in two days.

[font="Verdana"]BURMA: [/font] In Burma the flights have gone well into Bassein. Another three units are appearing in the base, slowly. A group of Lilys is also flying in supply to augment the transports. He's bombarding the units in the woods to little effect. About 1 squad a day is disabled.

[font="Verdana"]MALAYA:[/font] We're getting close to ready here. All TFs are meeting at Singapore and tomorrow will push off toward the Burmese front.

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Pre-Invasion action off Lautem (72,115)

2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Fuso
DD Tsuta
DD Kasumi
DD Yamagumo
AMC Asaka Maru
DD Yugure


Allied ground losses:
55 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


BB Hyuga firing at 2nd KNIL AA Battalion
BB Ise firing at 2nd KNIL AA Battalion
BB Fuso firing at 2nd KNIL AA Battalion
DD Tsuta firing at 2/4 MG Battalion
DD Kasumi firing at 2/4 MG Battalion
DD Yamagumo firing at 2/4 MG Battalion
DD Tsuta fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards
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Morning Air attack on 1st Artillery Regiment, at 81,52 (Siangtan)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 39
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 24
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 34
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 53
Ki-51 Sonia x 21



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
549 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 60 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 85 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Also attacking 72nd Chinese Corps ...

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Morning Air attack on 19th Group Army, at 81,52 (Siangtan)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 30


No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
279 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 41 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Morning Air attack on 75th Chinese Corps, at 81,52 (Siangtan)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 19
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 29

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Afternoon Air attack on 25th Group Army, at 81,52 (Siangtan)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 19
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
165 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 33 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
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Ground combat at Siangtan (81,52)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 310 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2672

Defending force 123751 troops, 823 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3899


Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35927 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1019

Defending force 24453 troops, 346 guns, 144 vehicles, Assault Value = 749


Allied ground losses:
212 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled)


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Ground combat at Batavia (49,98)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 15361 troops, 165 guns, 93 vehicles, Assault Value = 505

Defending force 8879 troops, 77 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 80

Japanese adjusted assault: 229

Allied adjusted defense: 183

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
692 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 61 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
257 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

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Ground combat at Siangtan (81,52)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 114923 troops, 823 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3895

Defending force 74639 troops, 645 guns, 384 vehicles, Assault Value = 2672

Allied adjusted assault: 911

Japanese adjusted defense: 2737

Allied assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender:
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1703 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 194 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 22 (1 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 42 (36 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Units destroyed 1


Allied ground losses:
14095 casualties reported [X(][8D]
Squads: 445 destroyed, 549 disabled
Non Combat: 38 destroyed, 338 disabled
Engineers: 29 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 72 (28 destroyed, 44 disabled)



Assaulting units:
72nd Chinese Corps
4th Chinese/B Corps
46th Chinese Corps
25th Chinese Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
55th Chinese Corps
30th Chinese Corps
99th Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese/C Corps
3rd War Area
19th Group Army
7th Artillery Regiment
25th Group Army
32nd Group Army
12th Group Army
22nd Artillery Regiment
7th War Area
20th Artillery Regiment
29th Group Army
9th War Area
18th Artillery Regiment
23rd Group Army
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment
27th Group Army
1st Artillery Regiment
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment

Defending units:
8th Armored Car Co
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
17th Division
39th Division
104th Division
102nd Infantry Regiment
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
116th Division
22nd Division
7th Tank Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion

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[font="Trebuchet MS"]The Chinese offensive that has already lost them over 8k infantry squads so far, is continuing to go badly, and I hope to be able to take advantage of this defeat and push forward deep into the Chinese center soon.[/font]
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Ground combat at Siangtan (81,52)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 114923 troops, 823 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3895

Defending force 74639 troops, 645 guns, 384 vehicles, Assault Value = 2672

Allied adjusted assault: 911

Japanese adjusted defense: 2737

Allied assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender:
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1703 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 194 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 22 (1 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 42 (36 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Units destroyed 1


Allied ground losses:
14095 casualties reported [X(][8D]
Squads: 445 destroyed, 549 disabled
Non Combat: 38 destroyed, 338 disabled
Engineers: 29 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 72 (28 destroyed, 44 disabled)



Assaulting units:
72nd Chinese Corps
4th Chinese/B Corps
46th Chinese Corps
25th Chinese Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
55th Chinese Corps
30th Chinese Corps
99th Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese/C Corps
3rd War Area
19th Group Army
7th Artillery Regiment
25th Group Army
32nd Group Army
12th Group Army
22nd Artillery Regiment
7th War Area
20th Artillery Regiment
29th Group Army
9th War Area
18th Artillery Regiment
23rd Group Army
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment
27th Group Army
1st Artillery Regiment
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment

Defending units:
8th Armored Car Co
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
17th Division
39th Division
104th Division
102nd Infantry Regiment
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
116th Division
22nd Division
7th Tank Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion

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[font="Trebuchet MS"]The Chinese offensive that has already lost them over 8k infantry squads so far, is continuing to go badly, and I hope to be able to take advantage of this defeat and push forward deep into the Chinese center soon.[/font]
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A great victory!!!
Well done Obvert.....the Force is with you!![:D]
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[font="Times New Roman"]20 March 1942[/font]
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[font="Verdana"]CHINA: [/font]The battle for Siangtan is finished. The IJA shock attacked today resulting in almost inconceivable Chinese losses. After the failed Chinese DA yesterday the IJA achieved a 3:1 adjustment and staggering Chinese casualties, with over 1,500 squads destroyed plus massive losses in support troops. This will surely open the door to the entire center of China. My troops are exhausted and have a lot of disabled squads after that, but will only take a day or two to rest before pushing on. It's good that a few fresh units were already on the way. All of these will direct toward Henyang and try to really put the hammer down on the shattered army that retreated there.

Torsten did move in not just the AVG, but also Hurricanes from several British fighter groups plus one other US fighter group. He did well in the skies, shooting down about 40 planes for the loss of 15 fighters. My losses were mostly Lilys, as I held back most of the Sally groups thinking something like this uber CAP might show up.

[font="Verdana"]DEI: [/font] Troops will DA at Lautern tomorrow. Also again at Batavia.

[font="Verdana"]BURMA: [/font] Just flying troops around, but with all of the Allied fighters in China, there are no issues with that today.

[font="Verdana"]MALAYA:[/font] All forces are prepared and will move out for Operation Python tomorrow. They will gather at Geaorgetown and then move out quickly, some may even go at flank to get there before the invasion bonus has finished.

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Ground combat at Siangtan (81,52)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 71212 troops, 607 guns, 352 vehicles, Assault Value = 2533

Defending force 113022 troops, 780 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3015

Japanese adjusted assault: 1424

Allied adjusted defense: 407

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
10057 casualties reported
Squads: 292 destroyed, 541 disabled

Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 140 disabled
Engineers: 16 destroyed, 45 disabled
Guns lost 43 (20 destroyed, 23 disabled)
Vehicles lost 35 (4 destroyed, 31 disabled)
Units pursuing 2

Allied ground losses:
45408 casualties reported
Squads: 1545 destroyed, 387 disabled [X(][X(]
Non Combat: 2164 destroyed, 485 disabled
Engineers: 43 destroyed, 56 disabled
Guns lost 247 (95 destroyed, 152 disabled)

Units retreated 33

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
116th Division
39th Division
22nd Division
102nd Infantry Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
17th Division
104th Division
7th Tank Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
99th Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
55th Chinese Corps
25th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
46th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
30th Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
4th Chinese/C Corps
12th Group Army
9th War Area
22nd Artillery Regiment
25th Group Army
7th Artillery Regiment
72nd Chinese Corps
7th War Area
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment
32nd Group Army
23rd Group Army
20th Artillery Regiment
3rd War Area
1st Artillery Regiment
29th Group Army
19th Group Army
27th Group Army
18th Artillery Regiment
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment
4th Chinese/B Corps

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Morning Air attack on 53rd Chinese Corps, at 81,52 (Siangtan)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 17
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 29
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 17



Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 12
Hurricane IIa Trop x 13
Hurricane IIb Trop x 32
P-40E Warhawk x 57


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 8 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 5 destroyed
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
H81-A3: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
AVG/1st Sqn with P-40E Warhawk (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
18 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
AVG/2nd Sqn with H81-A3 (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIa Trop (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
No.232 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
AVG/3rd Sqn with P-40E Warhawk (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000
Raid is overhead
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 23000
Raid is overhead
No.242 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Raid is overhead
49th PG/7th PS with P-40E Warhawk (17 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
17 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
24th PG/17th PS with P-40E Warhawk (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 30th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 53rd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 30th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 53rd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 30th Chinese Corps ...

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 36020 troops, 668 guns, 208 vehicles, Assault Value = 1022

Defending force 24393 troops, 345 guns, 139 vehicles, Assault Value = 741

Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
273 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 22 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)


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ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols

Erick, I can tell you that you are wrong about the size of the Chinese. I am at Feb 21, 1942 and I have 30,499
active Chinese rifle Squads. Plus 1096 Cavalry squads, 103 Engineers, and 2176 MMG sections. That is 33,784 AV total.
So you have destroyed about 22% of his total AV at this point. Not to mention the Mortars, FA, At guns, and support.

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At my last tally, after the complete annihilation of an entire Chinese army in Nanyang, 7,567 Chinese squads had been destroyed. Many of these will re-spawn in Chunking as understrength low moral low experience units.

Here are some new numbers adding what happened today.

3,008 squads destroyed since the last tally. None of these were destroyed units, so none will re-spawn, thus making these losses potentially more devastating to the Chinese effort.

Total Chinese squads destroyed so far:

10,575
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[font="Times New Roman"]ON HOLD[/font]
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After the series of Chinese moves and IJA responses in the Siangtan area, the game is on hold. Torsten is very busy right now, which is one reason. The other reason has to do with him suddenly taking a greater interest in trying to save something out of the mess that has developed in the center for him. He has insinuated in earlier correspondence that losses in China didn't really matter much to him as this was not his main focus in the game. Now it appears he's changing his mind a bit about that. [;)]

He also plans to be away soon for several weeks or longer, so I am unsure how much he will want or be able to play during that time.

All of this comes at an exciting time for me in the game. The doors are open for some serious movement in China. I feel like Burma is about to break open as well, with multiple area of attack coming into play.

I also am interested in what will happen if I attract attention from the 3 US CVs plus one British CV that I suspect are protecting approaches to India. With the KB up to 3 CV plus 4 CVL the numbers would be fairly even but the US is still flying TBD and there still might be Buffs on board as well. It would be taking a huge risk to open up to an engagement now, but if the IJN came out ahead, even losing one CV for sinking two, it could keep the game on the oceans interesting for longer. If we got lucky and took out a few without loss, then things would swing our direction again and open up a lot of possibilities.

My hunch is that he will move US CV-based planes to land, but this would work better in India than in Burma. Rangoon has constant damage on the field and is the only really good field. I'l likely hit Port Blair in the next days to reduce it's effectiveness as well, plus I'll get a bit of deeper search into the Indian ocean in a few days as well by jumping onto one of the dot base Andamans and setting up Mavis there. It does help that for the moment a bunch of British and US fighters are in central China!
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This is your post I was referring to:
I've just done some counting. It appears that over the course of the war so far, 7,567 Chinese infantry squads have been destroyed!!! That is a lot!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the total possible for the Chinese is somewhere around 22k AV when everything is at full TOE. So even though many of these will come back, that is at this point 21.62 months of replacements!

If 17 corps were destroyed at Nanyang, then maybe at 200AV each when they come back, that would be 3400 squads of new low moral and low experience mouths to feed.

The total possible is much greater than you thought. You have destroyed a lot and you will again take out China I am sure.
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This is your post I was referring to:
I've just done some counting. It appears that over the course of the war so far, 7,567 Chinese infantry squads have been destroyed!!! That is a lot!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the total possible for the Chinese is somewhere around 22k AV when everything is at full TOE. So even though many of these will come back, that is at this point 21.62 months of replacements!

If 17 corps were destroyed at Nanyang, then maybe at 200AV each when they come back, that would be 3400 squads of new low moral and low experience mouths to feed.

The total possible is much greater than you thought. You have destroyed a lot and you will again take out China I am sure.

Yes, and thanks again for doing all of the tedious math! I'm fairly optimistic now that the center is toast. His troops in Changsha are virtually unable to help in Henyang, and can only really transit back through Changteh. That will give him a decent army on that side of things, but I can pursue and keep them from the SE areas. So the rail could be easy unless he has a big reserve in Tuyun or Kweiyang. I'd like to take the middle road though and try to beat him to Chikhiang. If I can get that base I will force him back further.
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[font="Times New Roman"]NO TURN[/font]
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Still nothing here. Torsten wrote yesterday to say he is bringing his computer to the US which ostensibly means he can do turns. We'll see.

I'm beginning to wonder now, though. We all need a break at times for various reasons I guess, so maybe this is just a breather.

I'll keep posting updates periodically if there is any more communication.
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[font="Times New Roman"]BACK TO ME[/font]
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After about 4 weeks of nothing, a turn arrived. Because this was begun as our 2nd game, and intended to be slower, I knew going in there could be breaks.

The difficulty now is trying to figure out what I was doing! I'll have to go back and read the AAR for a page or so. It will almost take going through every region unit by unit to see what they were up to, especially since I am in the middle of a last ditch effort to make use of the landing bonus in Burma.

An update soon when I can explain anything coherently.
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