Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Q-Ball (A)

[GreyJoy]

A brief update.

We reached june 29th...

So my subs, even if arrived late in the aleutinas, managed nonetheless to do their job.
CV formidable was hit with two torps on the 26th... While the american CVs retired safely towards PH... On the 28th we maned to catch her again while she was trying to reach coal harbour...another 53mm torp in her belly...heavy damage and on fire... She may sink i guess....

We also sunk an american DD, an APD, a CL ( detroit class) and an AK... All in exchange of one sub badly hit ( 53 flt ) and two more lightly damaged....not bad!

Now we will retire to Tokyo. The campaign is over and the japanese have lost...but at least some damage has been caused.

We have not less than 4 operations now scheldued.
An air campaign in Burma/india, the conquest of Balikapan, a new two/fronta offensive in China and a brand new operation against Oz with the fqull KB in support.


While all these things unfold, we're proudly announcing that we reached 4,6 millions resources stockpiled in Japan.... While fuel levels are getting better... The convoys are working just fine!
We're also creating a complex " corridor system " in order to avoid the enemy subs... Will explain it in detail during this weekend when the game will be paused due to a trip qball is going to have

See u tomorrow guys...night

[GreyJoy]

here are the important events of the last 4 days

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 26, 42
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Night Naval bombardment of Amchitka Island at 158,52

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
H6K4 Mavis: 13 damaged
C5M2 Babs: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Minneapolis
CA Astoria
CL Nashville
CL Honolulu
CL Helena
DD Phelps
DD Selfridge
DD Porter
DD Tucker
DD Reid
DD Cassin

Japanese ground losses:
233 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 14 (4 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (2 destroyed, 6 disabled)



Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 30
Port hits 31
Port supply hits 8


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ASW attack near Atka Island at 164,53

Japanese Ships
SS I-21

Allied Ships
CL Raleigh, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Flusser



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Sub attack near Chuginadak Island at 167,53

Japanese Ships
SS I-173, hits 3, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CV Formidable, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Prince of Wales
CA Indianapolis
CA Portland
CLAA San Diego
DD Mustin
DD Sterett
DD Henley
DD Ralph Talbot






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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 27, 42
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Ground combat at Adak Island (162,52)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 6211 troops, 34 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 96

Defending force 24117 troops, 399 guns, 296 vehicles, Assault Value = 597

Japanese adjusted assault: 6

Allied adjusted defense: 1319

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 219 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
2895 casualties reported
Squads: 62 destroyed, 59 disabled
Non Combat: 62 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 21 (16 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Allied ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Assaulting units:
41st Naval Guard Unit
83rd Naval Guard Unit
48th Naval Guard Unit
43rd Const Co
3rd Air Defense AA Regiment
89th Naval Guard Unit
1st Ind.AA Gun Co
11th Ind.AA Gun Co
7th Base Force

Defending units:
40th Infantry Division
27th Infantry Division
151st Cmbt Engineer Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
802nd Aviation Engineer Battalion
2nd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
132nd Base Sqdn





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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 28, 42
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Sub attack near Umnak Island at 170,50

Japanese Ships
SS I-10, hits 3

Allied Ships
CV Formidable, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage[8D]
CLAA San Diego
DD Clark
DD Shaw




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ASW attack near Dutch Harbor at 171,50

Japanese Ships
SS I-5, hits 5

Allied Ships
DD Mugford, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD Clark



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3rd Air Defense AA Regiment Wiped Out at Adak Island by attrition!!!

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1st Ind.AA Gun Co Wiped Out at Adak Island by attrition!!!

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89th Naval Guard Unit Wiped Out at Adak Island by attrition!!!


Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Adak Island



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 29, 42
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ASW attack near Atka Island at 165,54

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33

Allied Ships
APD Crane, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Almaack
AK Betelgeuse
AK Fomalhaut
AK Bellatrix
xAP John Adams
xAK Arkansan
AM Oriole


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Sub attack near Chuginadak Island at 167,54

Japanese Ships
SS I-9

Allied Ships
AK Algorab, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Almaack
AK Betelgeuse
AK Bellatrix
xAP John Adams
xAK Arkansan
xAK Alabaman
AM Oriole

[GreyJoy]

Tojo IIc already advanced till 1/44 (not bad!)...we should be able to have it by 9/43 without much problems
Nakashima Ha-45 has been heavily researched. As far as i can tell we should be able to start stockpiling these engines starting from november 1942, which should help a lot in order to advance the George and the Frank.
 
I've also decided to start researching a bit the Jack.
 
A6M3a and A6M5 should be online by 11/42 and 1/43 as planned.
 
Judy (first model) should be online by 12/42. Untill that moment i'll equip half of my CVs with Kates instead of Vals.
 
 
 
 
In one month we'll be able to move the 38th Div to Manila (that big unit is still fighting in southern China in order to clear the last pockets of resistance around Canton), and so we'll soon be able to get rid of any resistance in Luzon, thus freeing 3 divisions, 5 base forces and several artillery units.
With the fall of Balikapan 2 more divisions will be free to be moved elsewhere.
 
I'm planning to use these five divisions, sending three of them to the SRA (Sumatra, Timor and Northern Oz), while two of them will be moved to the pacific (Marshalls and Mariannas).
 
Ki.45a production has been brought up to 50/month. i've found that i have a lot of units that can be equipped with this plane. Wanna have at least 200 operating Nicks.... i just have to check if, once those units chose the FB upgrade path, they can get back to F path or not....i may have to regret to have too many FB in the future....
 
Reorganizing my sub flottillas once again, calling back some 15 subs that have been operating in the IO without any success during the last 3 months

[ny59giants]

Prome (Burma) - I place my IJN air units here with an Air HQ. Got to keep the Allied navy honest. At least one Zero, two Nell/Betty, and a Mavis go here.

[GreyJoy]

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[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Prome (Burma) - I place my IJN air units here with an Air HQ. Got to keep the Allied navy honest. At least one Zero, two Nell/Betty, and a Mavis go here.

Prome? I have an Air Div HQ at Rangoon (level 7 AF), with Netties and Zeros.

I also have a flottilla Air HQ at Port Blair (level 4 AF), with 36 G3N3 and 36 Zeros, while Mavis are being placed at Little Adaman (level 3 AF).

[GreyJoy]

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[GreyJoy]

What do you think? Stupid idea?
 
QBall has problems with his laptop...no turns till tuesday [:(]

[obvert]

What is in Cooktown? Is this heavily garrisoned? I ilke the idea, but I wonder of Cooktown would render Portland Roads ineffective while also providing a deeper more serious threat in NE OZ? You could also trap that force in both bases to the north and take them off of the map. It's also not easily supplied or reinforced by land and is close enough to run back and forth to New guinea for you by sea.

If Cooktown is not possible then Portland Roads with the threat of marching South works still. He'll likely have to scramble some air defense and more troops to the area. What is the state of Western OZ now? Do you have Darwin and the bases along the coast? A nice compliment to this would be going for the Carnarvon/Exmouth area about two weeks after landing at Portland Roads. I've found those bases really useful to hold back the Allied approach to the DEI.

[Cribtop]

The day before the landing you could ground attack to obtain recon on what's there. Could help you make a final go/no go decision.

[Canoerebel]

Bad idea.

[GreyJoy]

Dan: can you elaborate a bit more? I understand it's not a winning stretegic goal...it's just a plan to delay a bit more the allied advance in NG/SWPAC... should be a low risk operation...why do u think is such a bad idea?
i am still in time to call it back...troops are loaded but we can always get back with no problems....
 
Obvert, Cooktown should be lightly garrisoned too, but at Cairns surely there are australian tanks (i've spotted them) and the AF is already at level 7...so it becomes risky if he has some 100 dive bombers there my KB could suffer....
 
Ok...CR has really puzzled my will now... too few troops? Too late to attack? Should i better sit and think about my defences?...

[Canoerebel]

You're going for a spoiling attack that you hope will throw your opponent off balance or throw him off schedule (or that's what you should be doing now that you've transitioned over the strategic defensive).

This attack won't accomplish either. Brad will either ignore it or gleefully use it to give his ground troops and airforce some easy targets. He doesn't need New Guinea, though he may ultimately decide it's worth his time. You would be better off having him attack New Guinea than some more important objective. It's farther to Japan's heartland via New Guinea than nearly any other route. You should be praying that he'll attack that way. You should draw him that way (perhaps by exhibiting weakeness when in fact your preparing strong interior defenses.

Also, I don't think you can assume that this is a low risk operation. Any operation against a player of Q-Ball's caliber carries risks. You could well lose ships or get good units marooned.

It seems to me that you think you should be doing something and therefore you've come up with something. But I don't think this is worth it. Either work on your defenses or choose something that will throw him off schedule.

[Olorin]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
Supply situation is overall very bad. Java has, in total, 18k supplies. Northern Oz 5k... The whole Malaya 30k...China 70k.... Japan 400k.... we're doing our best to keep the empire aive but the whole empire has only 2milions of supplies... simply not enough to fight, build and repair the R&D industries. I really hope to finish the chinese campaign soon, so that we can concentrate on creating a decent defensive perimeter.

Alas, DaBigBabes denies Japan around 3000 tons of supply produced by refineries, every day. This creates a situation where you have to chose how to allocate your supplies. There is simply not enough supply to keep operations going, repair damaged oil fields, expand HI, expand aircraft factories and R&D, all at once.

[ny59giants]

Since I don't know how to combine multiple screenshots, so here is what the Japanese Industry looks like at start with Stock Scenario 2.

[ny59giants]

Now here is what DBB Scenario 30 which is suppose to be Stock Scenario 2 moved over to DBB mod system. Notice the BIG difference in at start Supply and Fuel especially.

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Now here is what DBB Scenario 30 which is suppose to be Stock Scenario 2 moved over to DBB mod system. Notice the BIG difference in at start Supply and Fuel especially.

Oh....oh.....oh.....so basically i have the tools of a scenario 2 but the economy of scenario 1????? Was this intended? Was this WAD?

Which are the implications in the long run? I cannot grasp all the consequences....but surely i am scared now...never realized that!

....time to sleep now....tomorrow i'll think about CR's words....

Thanks

[Dan Nichols]

Here is a comment from PzB:

Yes, indeed! Time flies...as always!

I asked Andy if we could end this game - for several reasons.

1. There are balance issues regarding supplies. Not enough to maintain Japan's scen 2 armies and navies in mid 44.
Not only supplies, but heavy industries have been sucked dry. Each turn I have to worry about this and I'm tired of it - Japan is winning, not loosing.

[snip]

I think you have a problem.

[Encircled]

Very daft question

Is that because people are running Scenario 1 economy management when scenario 2 requires something different, or is it genuinely a game changing problem?

I've no experience at all with the Japanese economy, which is why I'm asking

[JeffroK]

JFB expect all those extra toys to appear out of fresh air & run on grass.

This might be the intended balance for your extra capabilities.